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Fri 03/20/09 06:14 PM
Edited by Blaze1978 on Fri 03/20/09 06:29 PM

Well, I threatened everyone I would do this and so I am finally doing it.

Now OLD Trek with James "SHOOT FIRST" Kirk was camp but it had class. In its day it was new ground for TV. It was done on a tight budget and the effects were minimalistic but it had heart.

Then came Next Generation. This is where Trek Hell begins!

Trek overall:
First and foremost the ships defy what real star ship design would be like.
1. standing stations. All crewmen are standing except the captain. What is wrong with this?
IN reality every crewman would be seated and strapped in in cast something affected the artificial gravity and would keep crewmen from getting slammed into the bulkheads of the bridge every time the ship made hard turns or maneuvers.
2. Likewise it would be a requirement of all bridge and engineering crew to wear pressure suits on station in case there was a hull breach which would kill everyone at station rendering the ship useless without crew to control it even if there was no air in the bridge. When your technology fails unless you have taken precautions your crew will die! Space is nothing like living on earth and gravity is not the only thing space travel lacks.
3. The bridge layout makes no sense as well. Looks good in Hollywood but is an insane waste of space. Star ships would be made to make as much use of space as they can get meaning a star ship would have a lot more in common with a nuclear sub than a cruise liner.
4. No armed guards, soldiers, or Marines. All modern ships of war or military vessels have armed crewmen at stations and on ships armed with WMD (IE Nuclear subs of the modern age) they have armed soldiers on board and on a star ship they too would be in battle armor on station. In Trek you put them in a red uniform and hand them a tiny cell phone and they are instantly "armed guards." (Red meant you were dead meat in a Trek Episode.)
5. A blatant lack of space suits and battle suits for the soldiers.
6. A blatant lack of practical weaponry. Gene Roddenberry was a total pacifist and didn't want "his" dreams to include "Guns" so the phasers looked like cell phones.
7. A lack of ship board defenses including beam weapons dropping from panels to shoot at boarders.


The Ships Design:
1. Now think of this, it takes HORRENDOUS power to push a ship through space at any real speed. Why is it that the main drive system of the ships are held to the rest of the ship through a single slender pylon? the first time you power the ship up to really go your engines would shear off the sides of the ship leaving you behind. OH, WAIT! If that happened in Trek your ship immediately goes BOOM!
2. Lack of redundancy and backup systems. ALL Modern aircraft have two of everything. Granted this is not a fix all but how many times has the Enterprise itself been left vulnerable with the shields going down and no backup system or backup power supply other than "Emergency power?"
3. With their technology why is there such a lack of automation and ROBOTICS? They have to send men to every planet they meet and yet they never send robot probes first sparing lives should something on the planet go wonkey!

The Politics:
Gene Roddenberry, you were a sick monster! The Federation of Planets is nothing more than the UN in space.

That and their "non interference" policies were hypocritical in the least. They did their share of interference.

Socially speaking:
Half Human Half Vulcans? PLEASE! I will not go too deep into this one except to say Genetic compatibility is none existent here because of Copper based physiology and Iron based physiology does to allow for half breeds! Also more often than not other species would "keep it to themselves." Granted humans will stick it in anything that will let them BUT likewise other species will have different sexual practices and some of them could be very hazardous to humans as well as the VD they may have or we may give them starting a plague! This isn't to say that inter species sexual activity is not possible but watch Babylon 5 and you will get an idea of how off base it can be. You can't hump a dog and male Werewolves. So all of these Trek Hybrids? Come on!


NOW FOR THE SERIES!

original Trek:

Outside of the technical arguments I present I do admit it was CAMP. I had no real complaints for Trek UNTIL...

Next Generation AKA The Forehead of the Week Club:

Captain Piccard: Captain Conehead was an asexual twerp who was too wrapped up in his diplomatic dogma to have the grapes to blast at an enemy who needed to get nailed like the Borg. He manages to damage the first ship he had to duke it out with and he flees instead of pouring everything he had on until the ship was blasted into space junk. He was not a competent star ship captain. Kirk would have left the first Borg ship nothing but atoms floating in space.
Riker: That clown fell in love with every new alien that came along every episode. He was supposed to be the ship's Stud Muffin making up for Piccard being a wussy.
Q: All that power and he had no life. Get a life Q! He had to play with humanity like he was some sort of "Super Prankster."
The Aliens: Every week it was a new alien and all of them save TWO species were nothing more than a pat of latex on the actor's forehead making a new species.

Deep Space Nine:

Palestine in Space. Oh those poor down trodden Bjorans. All those terrorist attacks of theirs. I wanted to kick Gaul Dukats ass and make him blast the Bjoran home world to atoms! I'm sure the Cardacians would have appreciated my views and would have gladly wipes out the Bjorans at my behest with glee!

The Shape Shifters:
For all of their gifts they were so overly paranoid and tried to be the ultimate puppet masters. For all their power they could have entered into diplomacy with the Federation and not gotten into a armed conflict with the Federation but hey, it does not make good stories without conflict. By all rights they should have been far more effective fighters and spies rather than depending on lesser species to do their dirty work.

Voyager:
Captain Janeway was about as incompetent as they got. She could have planted a bomb on the space station, used it to get home, and blew it up after they were home but NO, she has to leave them all stranded on the other side of the galaxy! That and many of the stories and concepts were lame. If the Voyager would have appeared in a fluid universe they would not have been able to do squat not to mention the pressure of the fluid universe would have more than likely crushed the hull of the ship. First and foremost, the ruses of existence in a fluid universe would be SO different the ship's drive system would not have been able to move them around at all.


This is just a start as to why I hate Star Trek with a passion. Star Wars was better, Babylon 5 was better, Firefly/ Serenity was better, and even Space 1999 was better and that one had plot holes big enough to consume 18 wheel tractor trailers! It is matter of consistency in story and Trek Lacks that in spades! That and space is a lot colder and crueler than people want to believe.

Imagine what hell would be like for the Trek set if the Alien from the movie Alien got on board! Piccard would try to negotiate with them. Do you think the Aliens would be interested in hearing what he ad to say? Maybe just enough before they fed his ass to a face clutcher!

Yes I hate Star Trek! The Genera reached too far and fell off the edge of the flat world of my interest.





I could poke holes in a myriad of your ideas. However, in the interests of saving time, and not spending too much time arguing Trek consistency, I have chosen to focus on a few points that jump out at me.

1. You make a good point as far as ship designs and schematics go. However, how many sci-fi series really take into account all aspects of space in terms of ship design? A common occurrence in all sci-fi is to exaggerate the effects of explosive decompression. Do people's eyeballs really pop out of their heads when they're exposed to deep space? No, the pressure of the ocean is several times superior to that of space. But if it makes for a good story, who cares what facts are ripped to shreds. One thing that thankfully isn't neccessary is for writers to have degrees in rocket science. If that ever changes, I think I might have to find another line of work.

2. Picard's penchant for diplomacy is one of the most overexaggeratd aspects of sci-fi. Truth be told, there were many occasions when he decreed that use of deadly force was necessary, but he always came to those decisions carefully. The ability to carefully judge every situation to decide what level of force is required is a crucial one for any command. Since you're stressing realism, I think that if any captain or commander went out into deep space to challenge the unknown perils with Kirk's attitude, said Captain would get his ass kicked in short order. And for the record, I never recall Picard openly negotiating with the Borg. In fact, it was during some of his encounters with the Borg that we saw how dangerous Picard could be when angry. In short, Picard's command was always based upon avoiding wars with the romulans and cardassians that would have cost the Federation thousands of lives. Many condemn him when compared to Kirk simply because his style of command was so different than Kirk's, and largely because the Next Generation was the series that followed the first Trek. Frankly, however, the fact that you support Kirk---a throwback to a more campy Trek, as you yourself say---largely deflates part of your argument.

3. The way the Shapeshifters operated was one of the most well-devised storylines in the history of Trek. They hated most other forms of life for legitimate reasons. They considered humans, klingons, etc (which they referred to as "solids") flawed and weak because they were confined to a single shape. They mistrusted solids because of the their past experiences with them. Reinforcing their hate was the humans mistrust of shapeshifters, whom many considered mysterious and duplicitous even before the war. With so many lives hanging in the balance, the shapeshifters were wise in choosing their plan: Rely on the races of the Dominion, many of whom had been developed and bred by the shapeshifters for thousands of years, and put them on the front lines. By avoiding sending shapeshifters into the battle, the shapeshifters were ensuring a minimum of shapeshifter casualties, increasing their people's chances of surviving the war. Since it was solids (the Jem Hadar, Cardassians and Breen) that were getting sent into the front lines to die, why would the shapeshifters care? All solids are mere pawns, tools by which to control the universe, at least from the perspective of the shifters.

A sidenote to 3. Since you're saying things should reflect reality, do you really believe that if we, as human beings, could develop a crude semi intelligent being from test tubes, that we would not send them to die on the front lines in our wars for as long as we could replenish the stock?

4. (and this is becoming longer than I initially intended, but relax, I'm almost done) There is no way you can criticize Star Trek while implying Star Wars does a better job of obeying the laws of natural reason. It does not. I could criticize Star Wars to no end, but I will be relatively brief, since I've been at this long enough. The Force? Are you kidding? Jedi knights extending their hands out to catch light sabers propelled through the air by unseen forces...and you criticize Trek for straying from rationale? Jedis jumping 25 feet in the air and performing other superhuman tasks? Are you serious?

What about that short blue winged creature who is Darth Vader's boss when he's a child? Would such a creature be capable of remaining aloft at all given the laws of aerodynamics? I'm no flight engineer, but I doubt it as much as I doubt a human child of the same size could hover 3 feet above ground if that human sprouted wings. If you're talking about design, the design of the pod racers is laughable. Are we to believe that two engines attached to a driver's compartment with nothing more than cables would go anywhere at all, let alone withstand the speeds and tensions of a race? What about Storm Troopers during the early movies? They're supposedly bad-ass, well trained, equipped with white armor, but at the start of every battle, 50 of them run out into the open and get picked off by the first shot that hits them.

Obi-Wan Kenobi disappearing when Darth Vader kills him? As far as I know, no one else was ever vaporized by a lightsaber (except for his clothes, mind you). How does this obey rational thought or science?

Luke Skywalker getting his hand cut off in a fight with Vader in one of the initial movies, exposing wires and circuits underneath? WTF? So, he's like human, but he's a robot underneath? Was this ever explained?

None of these are reasons to hate Star Wars, mind you. And I don't hate Star Wars. This is just a healthy reminder that one can (and damn well should) write science fiction without consulting a pile of scientific journals to "make sure they get it right."

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Fri 03/20/09 05:09 PM
Edited by Blaze1978 on Fri 03/20/09 05:13 PM
14 years ago, my second best friend publicly humiliated me because he had a hard-on for a dame.

Perhaps they were relatives, since I have it on good authority that he seriously dated his cousin (back when we were still friends). Yeah, thought I was keeping that one in the vault, didn't you, Adam?pitchfork

He wasn't interested in being friends anymore, and therefore can go to hell.

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Fri 03/20/09 05:06 PM
30.

5'4".

109. indifferent

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Fri 03/20/09 05:04 PM
Unless I am mistaken, add chocolate to that list.

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Sun 03/15/09 09:06 PM
Is there a fifth season yet???????????

The fourth season ended veritably littered with cliffhangers...mad ...Please tell me there is a fifth season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!tears

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Sun 03/15/09 09:03 PM
My number one red flag...

She's twenty, never been married, and has two kids.shocked

WHOA!!!! BACK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!waving

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Sun 03/15/09 08:58 PM
Edited by Blaze1978 on Sun 03/15/09 08:59 PM

I'm newly single and its horrible. No love, no kissing, no sex...not even fondling,its very depressing. Anyone else single and want to discuss their longing, unfulfilled desires?


I've been single my entire life, and I have come to the conclusion that there are worse things that could happen. The culture we live in is way too sex obsessed, and it disturbs me.

I'll never go looking for someone just to fulfill "that need." Sure, it would be nice, but my heart has long since been numbed to the pain of being alone. It's probably for the best, as it'll make me appreciate such things as love when I find it.

Abstinence is good for the soul people. Try it sometime.

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Wed 03/11/09 07:10 PM

talked to a brick wall?


I've talked to people who could pass for one.

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Mon 03/09/09 11:23 PM
To all you people who might own Fable 2, a word to the wise...

Make sure that your clothes have the dyes you want on them B-E-F-O-R-E you kill Lucien in the Spire...

I changed the colors of my clothes immediately upon leaving the Spire. Initially, it was fine, but as soon as I passed to another region, the colors were changed back. I was like, wtf, so I went to the options screen to re-dye my clothes...only to find that the clothes were dyed my new colors in options, just not in the world. I had to quit my game and return to it to resolve this problem.

Later, I changed my clothes colors to grey and white, and it worked fine, and I thought, great, that's the last we'll see of that glitch. Then, hours later, when I got sick of my Hero's drab colors, I stumbled on some indigo dye and changed my colors...and the same damn thing, my colors changed in options, but not in the game world...

I thought it might be dye related, but every time I changed colors I got the same thing. Oddly, I found that I could change the color of other items in my inventory without a problem (as long as I wasn't wearing the item in question). I tried changing the colors of my preferred clothing (for the record, highwayman coat, explorer shirt, highwayman gloves, pauper trousers and explorer boots) when I wasn't wearing them, but oddly, some of my changes were accepted, others weren't. rant Too stubborn to quit my game and come back to it---which I admit, would have saved me 45 minutes---I tried selling my clothes and buying the same stuff from different merchants, but they still had my drab grey and white colors that were unchangable.

(sigh) Finally bowing to the inevitable, I left my game and came back to it, and fixed the problem...

And yes, I am bored enough right now that I would bother to make a post about this on the forums.laugh

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Sat 03/07/09 12:51 AM

I have a 360 and love the games Oblivion and Fable 2, yet for some reason I get a headache after 30 minutes. It is frustrating for these games require many hours to play.



When I was a kid, I used to experience stomach cramps if I played video games too long. The danger sign was when my cheeks started to feel hot and I'd begin to feel disoriented.

The problem went away several years ago for reasons unexplainable.what

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Thu 03/05/09 05:14 PM

I'm not discriminating or goth bashing, I have goth friends


But are they goth or emo?



.....

Good question....I haven't known them long enough to know...

Damn all these sub-cultures and their differing and conflicting ways!laugh

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Thu 03/05/09 05:09 PM
Edited by Blaze1978 on Thu 03/05/09 05:12 PM

when I got out of the Army I grew my hair down to my ass and got pulled over by the cops. I was pulled called a hippie faggot punk and searched for nothing more than a traffic ticket. when the cop saw my I.D. he realized I had served in Nam with his son and appolized up and down. DO NOT judge a book by its covers!!!!1


I certainly am not judging all bald people. Hell, I used to shave my head too, many years back, that didn't make me a skinhead, lol.

I guess I labelled him such because of the violent takedown, the obvious hate, the cursing, etc. Looks aside, I could see that this was someone in need of counseling. Perhaps more gothic than skinhead although not blatantly so (and goths don't hate me for that because I'm not discriminating or goth bashing, I have goth friends). :smile:

The look stamped on his face reminded me of the look that this guy I saw being led by police through a court room for robbing a 7/11 had years back. On that occasion, the character in question actually hollered profanities and threats at stunned onlookers.

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Thu 03/05/09 04:59 PM

Blaze, I shave my head. Does that make me a skinhead? Your comment kind of sounds prejudicial and might have been better off being kept to yourself. I'm a big believer that when someone calls someone a name, or puts them into a category having no knowledge as to who they are, it says more about the person doing the name calling than the person at which the name is called.


I meant no offense, sorry if I sounded prejudiced.flowerforyou

It was more about, here's a person with short buzzed hair who is clearly violent. So let's call him a skinhead. I certainly didn't mean to label all people who look that way as such.

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Thu 03/05/09 04:56 PM

I get pulled over at least 3 times a month...because of the way I look, I wouldn't be surprised if he really didn't do anything.

Although skinhead punks do need to die...slowly...and painfully.


I'm with the cops on this one...He appeared violent, and I called him a skinhead, but he looked kind of ordinary, dressed ordinary, just had a crew cut...When he yelled that he hadn't done anything, one of the cops said, "You punched me in the face," and he had the bloody nose to show for it...He was kicking and screaming, but they subdued him with minimal force from what I saw. There was no excessive brutality, they didn't lay into him when he was down, they dragged him up and hauled him away...And the people with him more or less reacted bemused, like this sort of thing happens regularly...They were either friends or enemies of his, but they obviously knew him.

He was one of those people you just know is naturally violent from the anger stamped on their face. Anyone who can read people well enough would know, this wasn't a distressed "why the hell are they doing this to me," look, this was a "I hate the world" look, and when he was brought up, he glared at the people gathered with a menacing smear that said, "I hate you all and I hope you all die."

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Thu 03/05/09 04:32 PM
I was at the bus mall after getting groceries and security was trying to arrest some skinhead punk. I just caught the tail stages of it...Two officers were trying to restrain him and all three slipped and fell on the concrete (ouch). Then they dragged him away while he continuously moaned "I didn't DO anything," while people I figured knew him stood around and smirked.

I just thought it was surreal.

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Thu 03/05/09 02:57 PM
My real name is HP Lovecraft.

All my friends just call me H.:tongue:

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Wed 03/04/09 09:30 PM
Edited by Blaze1978 on Wed 03/04/09 09:30 PM

:heart: When was the last time someone held you tight and told you, "Everything is going to be all right"?:heart:

smitten Who was it and why?smitten


You've no idea how many times I've laid awake at night wishing for that...

I was wondering at what point such childish fantasies become just utter delusion.

And oh wow...I just typed my thousandth post. Where's my damn present??explode

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Wed 03/04/09 09:19 PM
1. Spiders
2. Randy Orton
3. Drugs
4. Kids
5. Bullies
6. Cigarette smoke
7. Aspertaine
8. Flashbacks
9. Certain kinds of fungus
10. The mentality that if you don't frack yourself up every weekend and sleep with a different rat, then you're a bum

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Mon 03/02/09 08:57 PM
I don't watch TV...I download everything of interest.

I just recently finished watching the fourth season of Battlestar Galactica.

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Mon 03/02/09 08:54 PM
I suffered through post-traumatic stress disorder for most of my formative years for the things I was subjected to during grade school...mad

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