Cowboy...enough of the mumbo jumbo ....

simply say (TYPE) that you Love and Respect Satan and his legion

Funches...enough of the mumbo jumbo ....

I already did. But again, before you take my own words out of context. I don't love, respect, like, or condone to their actions, decisions, or choices they have made.

I imagine there are many psychological reasons for why people do things, and those reasons could not be discovered via any simple tests such as you have described for the mice.

There are several huge attractions for the self-appointed position of Paper Pope.

1. It's a extremely easily-attainable position. (i.e. it's self-appointed)
2. It strongly appeals to the ego. (i.e. It carries with it divine authority)
3. It's easy to justify to ones self. (i.e. I'm just doing the work of God)
4. It's also addictive. (the more a person does it the deeper they bury themselves in it)
5. The Paper Pope can never be wrong. (i.e. God in on "his side")

I doubt that mice would ever consider any of these things.

did the mother grow up in the same enviroment, is the mother depress, was the mother abused?



did the mother get beat as a child, is the child in the age known as the terrible two's



seem like both the mother and the child are product of abuse or neglect ...can you explain what this has to do with whether you love and respect Satan and his legion

you were the one claiming that there is no love without respect..all I wanted to is show how you claiming to Love Satan and his legion was a lie since you refuse to claim that you also respect them

Weather she was a drunk not doesn't matter, weather she was depressed or not doesn't matter. The fact still remains this woman was allowing this child to basically destroy it's life with just going around causing troubles.

How is it abuse to punish the child to teach it right from wrong, since obviously sitting down and talking with the child didn't work? No one said it was a physical punishment.



Doesn't matter if she was beat as a child or not, doesn't justify beating your child. No, the children in these examples would be around teenager age(s)...... 15 - 17ish.

The test was to see if a certain gene that we all have gives the conclusion of why we think or learn certain ways. Why most people cannot accept other possibilities?

It took thousands of years before the catholic pope finally realized torturing in their basements was wrong, or the notion that aliens can exist announcing it on public television, or to apologize for wrong doings to scientists such as Galileo.

but perhaps the gene that I am talking about that some have more of or not has no role in it all. It was just a crazy thought of why people can't seem to open up to other possibilities. I mean how hard can that be?

but as you say...perhaps it is just convenience or the ego of power or strong convictions not allowing other thought processes of other possibilities to ensure.

You say I refuse? Do you always read like this? Might be another reason you see contradictions in the bible. I said the below quote.



I said, I respect the entities Satan and his legion. That doesn't mean I respect what they do or how they behave. I respect them as being God's creation who became overly egotistical and prideful in himself.

I don't "preach" anything Cowboy. I always offer all my views as personal views.

Also, I have never suggested that Jesus is not more important than anyone else in the world. I don't dwell on negative thoughts like you do.

I suggest that Jesus was just as important as everyone else.

I don't "preach" the possibility that Jesus never even exist. I simply point out that this is a very real possibility and must be considered to at least be among all possibilities. You are the one who refuses to consider that possibility.

I have considered the possibility that Jesus was the son of the God of the Old Testament, was born of a virgin, taught against the ways of the God of the Old Testament, lost his temper in the temple, was crucified for blaspheme, and rose from the dead along with a multitude of saints just as the Biblical stories claim.

My conclusion is, that after considering that possibilities, it doesn't seem to be even remotely plausible to me. I would need to believe too many contradictions, highly unlikely supernatural events, and that God himself is an idiot in so many ways that I just personally can't see where the story is worthy of consideration. IMHO, as a mere mortal human, I suggest that it has no more merit than Greek Mythology. It's no less absurd.

That's a personal opinion Cowboy. That's not "preaching".

Moreover, I offer an extremely plausible explanation for how the rumors of Jesus came to be by recognizing that those rumors could have been sparked by a mortal Jewish Mahayana Buddhist who voiced many of the views that have been attributed to Jesus, and was crucified for his opinions. Perhaps this man's name actually was something like "Jesus" or "Jehovah", or "Yahshua" or whatever.

That scenario makes perfect sense to me. Then the rumors that this guy was "The Christ" were written up and finally enforced by sword-point to be the only "True Holy Rumors" and all other rumors were deemed to be false. And anyone who spoke out against the "Holy Rumors" was in grave danger of harm by the religious zealots of the day.

That's not "preaching" Cowboy. That's just offering a very practical alternative to the "Holy Rumors" that you attempt to perpetuate via your PREACHING.

I do not preach at all.

On the contrary, I make it clear to everyone that I'm intellectually agnostic, intuitively spiritual, and that if some genuine supreme being exists then he/she/it/them will most likely be righteous toward everyone be they theist, atheist, or agnostic.

That's my own personal view. No preaching of condemnation in Jesus' name here.

as I said...sit back and watch them become lawyers ..

if you actually love and respect Satan and his legion you would just simply say so without all that mumbo jumbo as you would do if asked if you loved and respected Jesus

this is why Christian Love is apathetic towards abuse ....

Yes, you preach this a lot. And yes everyone of us is very important.

Don't the priests or bishops whip themselves sometimes to repent?? I so often see this in medieval movies. Do they still do this today funches? If so there is your answer to that. They do enjoy such treatment, but they do it to repent or be cleaned off sins they have done. Kind of a punishment onto themselves believing god is punishing them for their wrong doings.

I didn't say any mumbo jumbo, I said straight up that I love Satan and his minions as well as I do respect them.

I just don't love his actions, his disobedience to our father, his desire to be in control, his ego, or how he hurts everyone in one way or other.

If you asked me if I loved Jesus, I would say:
"I love Jesus in all his greatness. I love Jesus for all the great things he does for the world. I love Jesus for all the compassion and care he gives to us all. I love Jesus for everything about him.

The world has many kinds of plants — more kinds than can be named. There are bushes and trees, mosses and ferns, flowers and grains. There are herbs that can be made into medicines.

All over the earth there are plants growing. Different plants grow in different areas: on the tops of mountains and at the bottom of the sea, in the desert and in the jungle.


Clouds also cover the earth. In one moment, a cloud can rain life-giving water onto the plants. The rain nurtures the plants and soaks the soil.

Through the soil, the water soaks down, down, down to the plants’ roots. Some of the roots are woody and big. Some are thin and fine. The water goes to all the millions of kinds of plants.

Each plant uses this water according to what kind of plant it is. Some plants may blossom. Some trees may bear fruit. Some mushrooms may grow. Some vines may grow long. Some herbs may grow to be used for medicine. Each plant uses the water differently.

Although all these plants and trees grow in the same earth and are moistened by the same rain, each has its differences. But all may be nourished.

We are one and the same and should advocate peace and acceptance to each other. Let us put aside a religion for this once and just advocate the importance of mankind regardless how we drink our water.

to the POTENTIAL of mankind,,,

priests whipping is one example how Christians use their religion as a way to abuse themselves and claim it to be Love...that's what I meant about how Christian Love provides no distintion or guidelines as to when the Love is abuse

and because it provide no guidelines is how Christians use their religion to abuse and threaten others not of their faith and call it Love

For Example:
this debate started because "mylifetoday" posted that there would only be peace if there were no muslims ...is that comment a sign of Christians Love or is it a sign of Christian Hate flown under the flag of Love

Cowboy as a Christian you are require to say that you love Jesus..as you are required by your religion to say only good things about him ....

hmmm,,philosophy is interesting,,,,

if the doctor commits malpractice,,,is that a sign of a doctors 'hypocrtic oath' or is a sign of doctors incompetence disguised as medicine?

or is it the sign of someone who has been deemed a doctor and either willfully or accidentally fallen short of their obligations?

Many of us try to, but unfortunately there are those who would poison the water with their jealous gods and religious bigotries.

That's why we've see things like suicide bombings, witch burnings, crusades, hatred spread toward so-called 'heathens', and judgments passed on loving people simply because they choose to love someone of their own gender.

When people spread hatred in the name of God it's truly sad. But unfortunately, as history shows, this is something that people love to do and will probably continue to do for millennium to come.

If I ever see a day when people stop preaching hatred in the name of God I'll dance.



Here's a song I wrote about this. Sung by Reverend Rabbit.

http://users.csonline.net/designer/ideas/peace.htm

We can write songs and poetry and do all sorts of things to try to get people to be loving and peaceful, but unfortunately this doesn't seem to have much effect on those who love to hate in the name of God.

John Lennon tried this as well with his "Imagine".

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

~~~~

I'm all for peace, love, and the betterment of humanity.

Unfortunately this goes against the purpose of religious bigots and they prefer to use their concepts of God to spread hatred and religious intolerance.

From my point of view it's an oxymoron to use someone like Jesus to spread brotherly hate. But for some reason there will always be those who get a thrill out of doing just that.

And when we try to make Jesus out to be a sane loving person they will have no parts of it.

It's a shame. Truly it is.

MsHarmony...as usual your analogies generally leave key points out of the equation....

for example....the doctor saying there would be no malpractice if there were no patients just as "mylifetoday" said that they can be no peace unless there were no muslims