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Topic: Humans, Humans we have gone through enough
CowboyGH's photo
Thu 05/26/11 03:24 AM

mylifetoday wrote:

I am not hatemongering as you put it. I see myself as a Warner of the potential threat. Would it be hatemongering during WWII to tell Jews that they could be killed if Germany takes over?

I know what is true and what is not. I realize you will never accept the truth that I see.


Well, without a doubt there are Muslims who believe that it's ok to mass murder "heathens". There can be no doubt about it. The question isn't whether or not their exists dangerous Muslims. There have been tons of dangerous Christian. Even the KKK was founded by "Christians".

Jim Jones, and David Koresh were Christians.

The Abrahamic religions in general are unstable because they are based on a an egotistical male-chauvinistic God who hates heathens. It's just inherent in the religion. Look what those people did to Jesus.

They were taught by their fictitious God to murder heathens.

Jesus himself tried to renounce those hateful ways but unfortunately he failed miserably and ended up just becoming another victim of that blood-thirsty religion.

Greeneyeman is trying to tell us that we should spread peace. But look where it got Jesus. Not only did Jesus fail miserably to spread peace, but they actually used him to create a violent religion that had carried his name ever since.

People are still preaching hatred in the name of Jesus to this very day. Thousands of years later. I often wonder if it might not have been far better for humanity in general if Jesus never tried to set people straight. All he did was make things worse.

Now they use and abuse his name to perpetuate hate. It's just backfired on him.



The Abrahamic religions in general are unstable because they are based on a an egotistical male-chauvinistic God who hates heathens. It's just inherent in the religion. Look what those people did to Jesus.


God hates no one. God is a loving parent whom punishes his disobedient children.


Jesus himself tried to renounce those hateful ways but unfortunately he failed miserably and ended up just becoming another victim of that blood-thirsty religion.


That is because he fulfilled that covenant between God and man, along with the laws that applied to it. He gave us a new covenant which gave all judgment to Jesus Christ in everyway.


Greeneyeman is trying to tell us that we should spread peace. But look where it got Jesus. Not only did Jesus fail miserably to spread peace, but they actually used him to create a violent religion that had carried his name ever since.


Jesus failed at nothing. Jesus did what he was sent to do, he successfully completed his goals. It is the people of this world that has failed. Won't go into detail about the failings of man, that's off subject and quite long.


People are still preaching hatred in the name of Jesus to this very day. Thousands of years later. I often wonder if it might not have been far better for humanity in general if Jesus never tried to set people straight. All he did was make things worse.


There is absolutely no hatred being preached in the name of Jesus. Only love and enlightenment. Sometimes the truth hurts and people don't wish to face the truth. They come up with excuses not to.

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 05/26/11 03:27 AM



The suffering of Earthlings has gone far enough. Do not fall under the spell of superstitions leading to war, unhappiness, jealousy, violence, prejudice, racism, and hatred.

Great compassion makes a peaceful heart

A peaceful heart makes a peaceful person
A peaceful person makes a peaceful family
A peaceful family makes a peaceful community
A peaceful community makes a peaceful nation
A peaceful nation makes a peaceful world

A peaceful world brings the solution to enduring peace and prosperity.



Interesting, cause Christianity doesn't lead to wars. People that have taken the title "Christian" and kill people over not believing has happened. But that is not supported by the belief in itself. So how exactly does the belief itself cause the war(s)? All Christianity does is spread piece. Love thy neighbor as thyself.


Too bad that isn't true.

As to the OP, it is so true.

Too bad it is a fight to get peacefrustrated slaphead


Oh it is all truth. God has told us to love other's as oneself. To take care of everyone as you would for yourself. To love other's before yourself. There is no hatred in the laws/instructions from Jesus Christ, only love.

no photo
Thu 05/26/11 07:44 AM
Im with GreeneyeMan.... Remember Kingdom of Heaven.. It happened in the past and still can happen. For the sake of our children, for the sake of love and harmony i would be so willing to bend my ego.

Peace in the middle east and Peace everywhere......... IM WITH YOU.

Ladylid2012's photo
Thu 05/26/11 12:26 PM

cowboys said: God hates no one. God is a loving parent whom punishes his disobedient children.


God doesn't punish anyone, (that is soooo Pat Robertson) we do that all by ourselves...a loving parent doesn't punish, we discipline and guide.
A loving parent doesn't punish children for experiencing life,
after all, that's what were here for...the experience and growth.
Not to live in fear, walk on egg shells and believe all the garbage society fills us up with....were not here to be sheep!

Kleisto's photo
Thu 05/26/11 12:33 PM


cowboys said: God hates no one. God is a loving parent whom punishes his disobedient children.


God doesn't punish anyone, (that is soooo Pat Robertson) we do that all by ourselves...a loving parent doesn't punish, we discipline and guide.
A loving parent doesn't punish children for experiencing life,
after all, that's what were here for...the experience and growth.
Not to live in fear, walk on egg shells and believe all the garbage society fills us up with....were not here to be sheep!


Amen. We can't truly live, love, learn and experience, if how we are supposed to do it is limited.

msharmony's photo
Thu 05/26/11 12:46 PM
limits are necessary to avoid chaos

billions of people all doing 'whatever' would , indeed, be chaotic,,,

Ladylid2012's photo
Thu 05/26/11 12:53 PM
rules, laws and regulations have not kept chaos out of our society....
there is more chaos now then ever before, in all due respect Ms. Harmony. your point is pointless.

flowerforyou




msharmony's photo
Thu 05/26/11 12:55 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 05/26/11 12:56 PM

rules, laws and regulations have not kept chaos out of our society....
there is more chaos now then ever before, in all due respect Ms. Harmony. your point is pointless.

flowerforyou







thats like discarding medicine because people still get sick

or discarding education because there are still dummies

or discarding parents because there are still troubled teens

and the list goes on and on

it is not my belief that LIMITS completely ELIMINATE chaos, that would be preposterous

but limits certainly LIMIT(pun intended) the amount of chaos




so my point is very far from pointless,,,flowerforyou

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 05/26/11 12:56 PM

rules, laws and regulations have not kept chaos out of our society....
there is more chaos now then ever before, in all due respect Ms. Harmony. your point is pointless.

flowerforyou






Her point is not pointless. If everyone did obey the laws, there would be no chaos in the world. So the laws themselves do try to keep chaos out of our society, it is the people that do not obey these laws that cause the chaos.

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 05/26/11 12:57 PM


cowboys said: God hates no one. God is a loving parent whom punishes his disobedient children.


God doesn't punish anyone, (that is soooo Pat Robertson) we do that all by ourselves...a loving parent doesn't punish, we discipline and guide.
A loving parent doesn't punish children for experiencing life,
after all, that's what were here for...the experience and growth.
Not to live in fear, walk on egg shells and believe all the garbage society fills us up with....were not here to be sheep!


God doesn't punish anyone while we're on still living on this Earth, that is true. There is one, final judgment we will face. And according to which verdict we are judged with determines if we are punished or not.

Ladylid2012's photo
Thu 05/26/11 01:10 PM


rules, laws and regulations have not kept chaos out of our society....
there is more chaos now then ever before, in all due respect Ms. Harmony. your point is pointless.

flowerforyou






Her point is not pointless. If everyone did obey the laws, there would be no chaos in the world. So the laws themselves do try to keep chaos out of our society, it is the people that do not obey these laws that cause the chaos.


her point is pointless to me......

who's laws cowboy? Your laws, my laws...those who write the f uc king laws can't even recite them. Who gets to write the laws for EVERYONE...oh wait, let me guess, GOD???
Who's god, mine or yours? My god doesn't punish, your does...shall we vote. Shall we force people to live the way you do...how bout I force you to take on my life style. I not only feel pot should be legal, I think it should be mandatory...shall we have my laws in place to force you to smoke pot because I think it's ok.
Absurd!!

I realize in your pathetic christian way, you probably feel sorry for me, well I feel sorry for you and anyone else with your mind set.
Very, very sad.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Ya'll want be sheep, follow the herd, keep your mind in a box..feel free. I'm here to live, experience, enjoy, love, learn, grow.
You have bought into the nightmare of society...limit yourself if you choose...I am powerful, divine..a piece of god and because of that, I am not limited!

Ladylid2012's photo
Thu 05/26/11 01:12 PM



cowboys said: God hates no one. God is a loving parent whom punishes his disobedient children.


God doesn't punish anyone, (that is soooo Pat Robertson) we do that all by ourselves...a loving parent doesn't punish, we discipline and guide.
A loving parent doesn't punish children for experiencing life,
after all, that's what were here for...the experience and growth.
Not to live in fear, walk on egg shells and believe all the garbage society fills us up with....were not here to be sheep!


God doesn't punish anyone while we're on still living on this Earth, that is true. There is one, final judgment we will face. And according to which verdict we are judged with determines if we are punished or not.




Kleisto's photo
Thu 05/26/11 01:26 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Thu 05/26/11 01:27 PM

limits are necessary to avoid chaos

billions of people all doing 'whatever' would , indeed, be chaotic,,,


How about this? Instead of teaching limits on what we can do, how about we start EDUCATING on what things are better for us than others? Somehow I think that would work a lot better than saying, don't do this or don't do that. When you constantly tell people no, then you are asking for rebellion.

So you wanna avoid chaos? Stop dictating, and educate instead.

msharmony's photo
Thu 05/26/11 01:28 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 05/26/11 01:31 PM


limits are necessary to avoid chaos

billions of people all doing 'whatever' would , indeed, be chaotic,,,


How about this? Instead of teaching limits on what we can do, how about we start EDUCATING on what things are better for us than others? Somehow I think that would work a lot better than saying, don't do this or don't do that. When you constantly tell people no, then you are asking for rebellion.


so who will detemine which laws are 'working'

and what is it about the laws that says you CANT do anything, the laws just dictate what CONSEQUENCES will be

you CANT steal from someone or (if you are caught)...these will be the circumstances

you CANT harm another, or (if you are caught)..these will be the circumstances

there is a necessary balance of EDUCATION and STRUCTURE that is needed to make a COMMUNITY truly UNITED and not MERELY a list of INDIVIDUALS Doing whatever pleases them

there are agreements that are made in a community about what the boundaries will be, and we are all free to find those communities which suit the boundaries (or lack of) we wish to live by


no is not an enemy, no is a necessary balance to YES

its a shame so many see 'no' in and of itself as some flaw on the human ability to experience their life,,,,

Ladylid2012's photo
Thu 05/26/11 01:31 PM


limits are necessary to avoid chaos

billions of people all doing 'whatever' would , indeed, be chaotic,,,


How about this? Instead of teaching limits on what we can do, how about we start EDUCATING on what things are better for us than others? Somehow I think that would work a lot better than saying, don't do this or don't do that. When you constantly tell people no, then you are asking for rebellion.

So you wanna avoid chaos? Stop dictating, and educate instead.


yesssssss

educate with love, not dictate out of self righteousness

what a concept!

Kleisto's photo
Thu 05/26/11 01:31 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Thu 05/26/11 01:32 PM



limits are necessary to avoid chaos

billions of people all doing 'whatever' would , indeed, be chaotic,,,


How about this? Instead of teaching limits on what we can do, how about we start EDUCATING on what things are better for us than others? Somehow I think that would work a lot better than saying, don't do this or don't do that. When you constantly tell people no, then you are asking for rebellion.




no is not an enemy, no is a necessary balance to YES

its a shame so many see 'no' in and of itself as some flaw on the human ability to experience their life,,,,


It's not the no that is the problem so much, as the fact that so often when it comes to laws, it basically comes across as: "don't do this cause I say so", instead of: "don't do this because....."

If you start to teach the person WHY some things are better than other things, you're more likely to get them to listen than if you teach only obedience.

msharmony's photo
Thu 05/26/11 01:32 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 05/26/11 01:33 PM




limits are necessary to avoid chaos

billions of people all doing 'whatever' would , indeed, be chaotic,,,


How about this? Instead of teaching limits on what we can do, how about we start EDUCATING on what things are better for us than others? Somehow I think that would work a lot better than saying, don't do this or don't do that. When you constantly tell people no, then you are asking for rebellion.




no is not an enemy, no is a necessary balance to YES

its a shame so many see 'no' in and of itself as some flaw on the human ability to experience their life,,,,


It's not the no that is the problem so much, as the fact that so often when it comes to laws, it basically across comes as: "don't do this cause I say so", instead of: "don't do this because....."

If you start to teach the person WHY some things are better than other things, you're more likely to get them to listen than if you teach only obedience.



please explain to me an example of a law that is set 'dont do this' just because "I SAID SO" as opposed to laws that are set because 'this is how the COMMUNITY wishes to run'?

Kleisto's photo
Thu 05/26/11 01:36 PM



limits are necessary to avoid chaos

billions of people all doing 'whatever' would , indeed, be chaotic,,,


How about this? Instead of teaching limits on what we can do, how about we start EDUCATING on what things are better for us than others? Somehow I think that would work a lot better than saying, don't do this or don't do that. When you constantly tell people no, then you are asking for rebellion.

So you wanna avoid chaos? Stop dictating, and educate instead.


yesssssss

educate with love, not dictate out of self righteousness

what a concept!


Indeed, and I would also add to this, when it comes to religious beliefs, it's best to tell the child what you believe and why, but also leave the door open to let them make their own choices, instead of only pushing them into yours. What worked for you, may or may not work for them, and if you try to force them into your way of thinking, be it right or wrong, you risk pushing them away. I know it happened to me with my dad's side of the family when I left their beliefs.


Kleisto's photo
Thu 05/26/11 01:38 PM





limits are necessary to avoid chaos

billions of people all doing 'whatever' would , indeed, be chaotic,,,


How about this? Instead of teaching limits on what we can do, how about we start EDUCATING on what things are better for us than others? Somehow I think that would work a lot better than saying, don't do this or don't do that. When you constantly tell people no, then you are asking for rebellion.




no is not an enemy, no is a necessary balance to YES

its a shame so many see 'no' in and of itself as some flaw on the human ability to experience their life,,,,


It's not the no that is the problem so much, as the fact that so often when it comes to laws, it basically across comes as: "don't do this cause I say so", instead of: "don't do this because....."

If you start to teach the person WHY some things are better than other things, you're more likely to get them to listen than if you teach only obedience.



please explain to me an example of a law that is set 'dont do this' just because "I SAID SO" as opposed to laws that are set because 'this is how the COMMUNITY wishes to run'?


I got a better question for you. How much are the communities manipulated into the different laws put on the books by the media and government? How much of the thinking truly comes from them?

Even if it did, to me a good community would understand the importance of freedom of choice and personal responsibility. This is something that is very much lacking anymore in lieu of group think, and it's not a good thing. If it isn't going to harm you, you have no business telling someone else they can't do it.

msharmony's photo
Thu 05/26/11 01:40 PM






limits are necessary to avoid chaos

billions of people all doing 'whatever' would , indeed, be chaotic,,,


How about this? Instead of teaching limits on what we can do, how about we start EDUCATING on what things are better for us than others? Somehow I think that would work a lot better than saying, don't do this or don't do that. When you constantly tell people no, then you are asking for rebellion.




no is not an enemy, no is a necessary balance to YES

its a shame so many see 'no' in and of itself as some flaw on the human ability to experience their life,,,,


It's not the no that is the problem so much, as the fact that so often when it comes to laws, it basically across comes as: "don't do this cause I say so", instead of: "don't do this because....."

If you start to teach the person WHY some things are better than other things, you're more likely to get them to listen than if you teach only obedience.



please explain to me an example of a law that is set 'dont do this' just because "I SAID SO" as opposed to laws that are set because 'this is how the COMMUNITY wishes to run'?


I got a better question for you. How much are the communities manipulated into the different laws put on the books by the media and government? How much of the thinking truly comes from them?

Even if it did, to me a good community would understand the importance of freedom of choice and personal responsibility. This is something that is very much lacking anymore in lieu of group think, and it's not a good thing. If it isn't going to harm you, you have no business telling someone else they can't do it.


harm comes in many stages, some are instant, some occur later in a chain reaction,,and the community, like a household , will not be able to please everyone all the time, but must have some GUIDE as to how they will run,,,,,

again we are debating extremes, some seem opposed to any limitations because they are equating it with EXCLUSIVE group think,

there is a BALANCE , in the middle of exclusive group think or EXCLUSIVE 'whats good for me' individuality,, that is essential to keeping some symblance of order,,,

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