JennieBean...that first Hermetic Law you posted is all about being in the mind of "The All" as if we all are part of some hallucination ...this points to a one God entity

also you still haven't explain where these Laws came from ....did they come from Man?...or from "The All" entity

Funches, I just told you I had faith in Universal law and you asked me if I meant the ten commandments.

Perhaps I should have just answered that with "NO."

If you don't like the information just forget about it.

I simply asked you where did these Universal Laws come from ...from Man or a Supernatural Entity ...I figured you knew ...sorry my bad

Ok Funches..the following is WHY I sometimes post

LINKS!!!



Below are scriptures that were in that link I shared

earlier..... that show us CLEARLY that Jesus IS fully man

as well as FULLY GOD.




.......................JESUS IS GOD.......................


Throughout the Scriptures Jesus Christ is not only referred to as the Son of God, but also is clearly shown to be God Himself.



I Am




(Exodus 3:14)

God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM' has sent me to you. "

(John 8:58)

"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid Himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.
Immanuel/Emmanuel


(Isaiah 7:14)

Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son and will call him Immanuel.

(Matthew 1:22)

All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" - which means, "God with us."
Mighty/Almighty


(Isaiah 9:6)

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.

(Isaiah 10:21)

A remnant will return, a remnant of Jacob will return to the Mighty God.

(Matthew 28:18)

"All authority in heaven and earth has been given to me."

(Revelation 1:8)

I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."
King of kings and Lord of lords


(1 Timothy 6:13-15)

In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, I charge you to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ,

which God will bring about in his own time - God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see.

(for further reference to God as King of kings, see Ps 136:3 and Deut 10:17)

(Revelation 17:14)

They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings - and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers."



Alpha and Omega / First and Last




(Revelation 1:7-8)

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen. "I am the Alpha and Omega," says the Lord God, " who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

(Revelation1:17-18)

... "I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One, I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever!

(Revelation 22:12-13)

"Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

(Revelation 22:20)

He who testifies to these things says, "Yes, I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.

(Revelation 2:8)

These are the words of him who is the First and the Last, who died and came to life again.

(Isaiah 48:12)

"Listen to me, O Jacob, Israel, whom I have called: I am he; I am the first and I am the last."

(Isaiah 44:6)

"This is what the Lord says - Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God."

(Isaiah 43:10-11)

"You are my witnesses," declares the Lord, "and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed nor will there be one after me. I, even I, am the Lord, and apart from me there is no savior."


In Revelation 1:7-8,

the Lord God (Jehovah) states He is the Alpha and Omega. Yet in that same verse the speaker, God (Jehovah), says He was pierced. Who was it that was actually pierced? Jesus.

In Revelation 22:12-20

it is Jesus who claims He is the Alpha and Omega.

In Isaiah 48:12 and 44:6

God, Jehovah says He is the first and the last. Yet again in

Revelation 2:8,

Jesus says He is the first and the last. Finally, Both God, Jehovah, and Jesus are described as "coming soon".



The Scriptures Confirm



(John 5:39-40)

"You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

(John 5:46)

If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.
In the old testament, Moses was clearly writing about The Lord God (Jehovah). Yet Jesus clearly states Moses was writing about himself.




Cannot see God's face and live


(Exodus 33:20)

"But", he said (God speaking to Moses), "You cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live."

(Numbers 12:6-8)

(God speaking to Aaron and Miriam)
"When a prophet of the Lord is among you, I reveal myself to him in visions, I speak to him in dreams. But this is not true of my servant Moses; he is faithful in all my house. With him I speak face to face, clearly and not in riddles; he sees the form of the Lord.

God says no one may see His face and live. Yet He also says He speaks to Moses "face to face". How can this be? We cannot see God the father but we can see God the son, Jesus, God manifested in flesh. Jesus said Moses wrote about Him, Moses saw Him, Moses talked to Him.



Glory of the Lord



(Isaiah 42:8)

"I am the Lord; that is my name! I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols."

(Isaiah 40:5)

"And the glory of the Lord will be revealed, and all mankind together will see it. For the mouth of the Lord has spoken."
Jesus was in the wilderness with the Israelites



(1 Corinthians 10:1-4)

For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. They all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

(Hebrews 11:24-26)

By faith Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be known as the son of Pharaoh’s daughter. He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a short time. He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward.

(Jude 1:5)

Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe.



The One they pierced



(Zechariah 12:10)

"And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son."



30 pieces of silver



(Zechariah 11:12-13)

I told them, "if you think it best, give me my pay; but if not, keep it." So they paid me thirty pieces of silver. And the Lord said to me, "Throw it to the potter" - the handsome price at which they priced me! So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them into the house of the Lord to the potter.

(Matthew 26:14)

Then one of the Twelve - the one called Judas Iscariot - went to the chief priests and asked, "What are you willing to give me if I hand him over to you?" So they counted out for him thirty silver coins.
Salvation


(Isaiah 43:11)

"I, even I, am the Lord Jehovah, and apart from me there is no Savior."

(Acts 4:12)

Salvation is found in no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.
This Scripture is referring to Jesus, even though in Isaiah Scriptures clearly say no other name but Jehovah God can save us.



Forgiveness of Sin



(Isaiah 43:25)

I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.

(Mark 2:5-7)

When Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, "Son, your sins are forgiven". Now some teachers of the law were sitting there, thinking to themselves "Why does this fellow talk like that? He’s blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?"



God says it was His blood that was shed



(Acts 20:28)

Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.

(2 Peter 2:1)

But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them - bringing swift destruction on themselves.




Jesus claims Himself to be God.




When Philip asked Jesus, "show us the Father..." Jesus replied...

(John 14:9)

"Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father."

(John 20:28)

Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!" Jesus did not rebuke him.




Jesus is the Creator (the beginning)




(Colossians 1:15-17)

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

(Isaiah 44:24)

"This is what the Lord says - your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb; I am the Lord, who has made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself...

(Genesis 1:1)

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Clearly in Genesis, we are told God is the Creator. However in Colossians, clearly Jesus is identified as the Creator. Also note in Gen. 1:26, God refers to us.

(John 1:1)

In the beginning was the Word...
The Greek word used in both Genesis and John is en arche.



Eternal



(Micah 5:2)

"But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose going forth are from long ago, from the days of eternity."

The Hebrew word here for "eternity" is owlam. No creature is ever described with this word - only God. It is used of YHWH in Psalm 90:2. Yet here it is being used in a passage clearly referring to Jesus. Jesus is eternal.



Full Deity




(Colossians 2:9)

For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority.

(1 Timothy 1:15-17)

Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance. Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners - of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

In Timothy 1:15-17, Paul is speaking of Jesus. Since he continues in the very next sentence in the same paragraph "Now to the King...., it stands to reason Paul is still speaking of Jesus.



Worship



(Matthew 28:17)

And behold, Jesus met them and greeted them. And they came up and took hold of His feet and worshipped Him.
(Philippians 2:5-11)


Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.

And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death - even death on a cross! Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus very knee should bow, in heaven and on earth tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

(Isaiah 45:22-23)

"Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other. By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked; Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear."




Additional Scriptures



(Titus 2:13-14)

...while we wait for the blessed hope - the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.

(Jude 4)

For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

(1 Corinthians 12:3)

Therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus be cursed", and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord, except by the Holy Spirit."

(Isaiah 9:1)

Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali , but in the future he will honor Galilee of the Gentiles, by the way of the sea, along the Jordon.

MorningSong...I scan the posts but I didn't see any one post that explains why Jesus didn't know the time of Judgement Day ...

even after placing all the posts in different combinations and even all together to form a conclusion they still provided no explantion to the question ..

I even use my secret decoder ring to decipher the posts but I still didn't see anything in those posts that explains why Jesus as God lost his super powers along with his total knowledge

so can you please pick out the one post that explains or give the slightest hint as to why Jesus if he is fully God as you claim all of suddenly wouldn't have a clue as to the time of Judgement day that he himself as God only knows the answer to

Funches... got some homework for you, My Friend.

Look up and read EVERY ONE the scriptures mentioned below .......

including ALL the scriptures listed at the end.

This will help tremendously in making things more clear.



Ok...the question was:


Question: "If Jesus was God, why did He not know when He would

return?"


Answer: Speaking of Jesus' Second Coming, Matthew 24:36 (and Mark

13:32) tells us, “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the

angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”


When Jesus spoke these words to the disciples, even He had no

knowledge of the date and time of His return. Although Jesus was

fully God (John 1:1, 14), when He became a man, He voluntarily

restricted the use of certain divine attributes (Philippians 2:6–8).

He did not manifest them unless directed by the Father (John 4:34;

5:30; 6:38). He demonstrated His omniscience on several occasions

(cf. John 2:25; 3:13), but He voluntarily restricted that

omniscience to only those things God wanted Him to know DURING THE

DAYS OF HIS HUMANITY(John 15:15). Such was the case regarding the

knowledge of the date and time of His return.

AFTER JESUS WAS

RESURRECTED, JESUS RESUMED HIS FULL DEVINE KNOWLEDGE (cf. Matthew

28:18; Acts 1:7)!!!!!!


Matthew 24:36 clearly states that the Father alone knows when Jesus'

return will be. Verses such as John 5:30; 6:38; 8:28-29; 10:30;

12:49; 14:28, 31; and Matthew 26:39, 42 demonstrate Jesus'

submission to the Father as well as their Oneness in the Godhead.


Yes, they are BOTH God. But some things Jesus had apparently chosen

to "give up the rights" to be privy to DURING HIS EARTHLY MINISTRY

(see Philippians 2:5-11).

JESUS, NOW EXALTED IN HEAVEN ,

SURELY KNOWS ALL ,

INCLUDING THE TIMING OF HIS SECOND COMING!!!!!!!!!

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AGAIN FUNCHES....GOD KNOWS ALLLLLLLLLLL THINGS....but Jesus while

on earth, had left all his glory behind, to become man...and

while on earth, Jesus was submissive to the Father.

Again...those words Jesus spoke was while He was on earth.



Here are some scriptures on the subject:

.......

"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of

heaven, but My Father only" (Matthew 24:36).

........

"But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of

Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and

drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah

entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took

them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be" (Matthew 24:37-39).

.........


Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other

left. Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and

the other left.

Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour[a] your Lord is

coming.

But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour

the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his

house to be broken into.

Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an

hour you do not expect(Matthew 24:40-44}


..........


"Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler

over his household, to give them food in due season? Blessed is

that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing.

Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his

goods. But if that evil servant says in his heart, 'My master is

delaying his coming,' and begins to beat his fellow servants, and

to eat and drink with the drunkards,

the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking

for him and at an hour that he is not aware of, and will cut him in

two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be

weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 24:45-51).


..................................


"For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes

as a thief in the night" (I Thessalonians 5:2).


.................................

"Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which

the Son of Man is coming" (Matthew 25:13).

your post was riddled with contradictions ...so I pull out the main contradiction that pertains to my question

but anyway you claim that once in Heaven Jesus now knows the exact time of Judgement day ....so can you present the exact passage from the bible that states this ...

I'm not talking about signs or prophecies that might signify the beginning of Judgement Day ...

I'm talking about a passage that clearly states that Jesus knows the time of judgement day

because the bible makes it clear that he does not have this information on Earth or in Heaven ....and I will explain why

it's because people still claim that they see and talk to Jesus or that Jesus visit them and give them information .....which means they can then claim that Jesus told them the time of Judgement Day and cause all types of trouble even destroy lives

to make sure this does not happen is why the bible placed in a failsafe so that no one could claim that Jesus told them the time of Judgement day and this is why the bible states clearly that Jesus doesn't know

but you are trying to contradict the bible and claim that Jesus does know ......so now all you have to do is present the passage from the bible that clearly states that Jesus does know

Jesus didn't know what time his second coming will be, because it is not set in stone. It is dependant on certain elements. And our father will choose when these elements have happened. And because of free will and the not knowing of how this free will, will be used, it would be literally impossible to know when the second coming will happen. And our father is the only one who knows these certain things that are to happen before. Therefore they do know when the second coming will happen but at the same time don't know exactly when it will happen.

Yes God is all knowing, not demeaning our father in anyway or "restricting" him. But our actions again are not seen before they happen. If they could/would be seen before they happen, our lives would be literally unimportant and in vein. That would mean we would be "Destined" to heaven or perishing. And that would then leave the "judgment" pointless. Because God would have known what we would do through our lives before hand.

So again, God knows the elements that need to happen before he send Jesus back, but Jesus doesn't. Nor do they know exactly when this will happen.

Cowboy.... either God is all knowing or he is not ....why would God have to see actions before they happen....wouldn't he already know....so yes you are trying to lessen his powers by claiming that he knows not the actions that we will or will not do ..that means that he is not omniscient and therefore not a God





not sure that "MorningSong" is going to agree with you ....but it will be interesting and educational to read the debate between you two on this subject

Funches, while Jesus was on earth, He said only the

Father knows the time of His return.....

again, this was because Jesus was submissive to the Father while

on earth, and did not take the Father's place of authority

while on earth,

but remained obedient as the Son, while on earth.


Jesus is now back with the Father..and has ALL the GLORY given

of the father, back to Jesus once more...

and because Jesus is as much God as the Father is ,

then Surely JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS NOW.

GOD KNOWS ALLLL THINGS.


God knows the END from the BEGINNING...and the BEGINNING from the END.

(Funches....Read again thru alll the scriptures I gave

earlier..showing the DEITY OF JESUS ).


Now ....

although Jesus did not give the exact time of his return to his

deciples ,Jesus DID tell them the signs of the times to watch for.


This proves Jesus did know things...but remained obedient to the

Father by not usurping the Father's authority while on earth.....

but also , not only was Jesus obedient to the Father, but Jesus

knew that in

revealing the exact date to his diciples ,

that all mayhem would

have broken out..and everyone would have been focused on an EXACT

DATE,

instead of being focused on God Himself.


That is another reason we do not have the exact date of Jesus

birth...because once again, people would have focused on a

date ,instead of on the Saviour born.


So therefore, some things Jesus did not tell the deciples

was ,not only because Jesus was in submission to the Father while

on earth (and therefore, did not want to usurp authority over the Father).....

but also because,

Jesus in His wisdom knew that the diciples would probably

have turned the "knowing of his time of return" ,

into a focus on the "date of his return" ....

rather than focus on the Lord God Himself.

John 21:17, "And he [Peter] said to Him, 'Lord, You

KNOW ALL THINGS; You KNOW that I love You.' Jesus said to

him, 'Tend My sheep.' "


AFTER Jesus' resurrection, as Jesus was now in His GLORIFIED body,

Peter states that JESUS KNEW ALL THINGS... and YET Jesus NEVER

REBUKED PETER FOR SAYING THAT, NOR CORRECTED HIM .




Also When Thomas beheld the nail prints in Jesus's hands ,he said

to Jesus ,"My Lord and MY GOD."


And Jesus AGAIN, did not rebuke nor correct Thomas.


Also...in

Matt. 28:20,Jesus said," Behold, I am with you always, even to the

end of the age.”

Jesus said this to His disciples (although this same word speaks to

us today ).

JESUS stated that HE WOULD BE WITH THEM ALWAYS.

NOW , This is ONLY

POSSIBLE if JESUS is OMNIPRESENT .



POINT BEING.....AFTER JESUS RESSURRECTION, JESUS KNEW ALL

THINGS ....CAUSE HE WAS NOW IN HIS GLORIED BODY...EVEN BEFORE

HIS ASCENSION INTO HEAVEN.

AND SURELY NOW THAT JESUS IS BACK WITH THE FATHER ,

AND IS AS MUCH GOD AS THE FATHER IS GOD,

THEN SURELY JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS.


But Funches, you will always have people out there that will

twist scripture or misinterpret scripture...saying for

instance,that Since God knows all things, that God now revealed

to them when He will return.....


when scripture plainly says that NO MAN knows the hour of

Jesus's return..


This is why the Word of God must be studied and rightly

divided....

and because of the Holy Spirit now indwelling a believer ,

a believer is able to tell the difference between truth ,

and when someone has gotten off into error......

when listening to someone preaching out there today.


Again, there are many scriptures(as I shared earlier) that

point to the DEITY of Christ Jesus....

and since the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the 3

persons of the ONE Godhead...and all 3 persons are EQUALLY God....

and since God KNOWS ALL things...

AND SINCE THERE IS ONLY....ONE..... GOD....

THEN surely

Jesus ALSO KNOWS ALL things....since Jesus is in His Glorified

state now!!!


Hope this helps now, Funches.

MorningSong....you're still trying to place things in the bible that the bible refuse to allow you to do ......

if this was court your testimony would help convict an innocent "MAN" of knowing information even when all the evidence you have in front of you clearly states that he does not know

this is why if you can not present "one post" from the bible that clearly states that Jesus does indeed know the time of his second coming or judgement day once he entered into Heaven then change your testimony and allow this innocent "MAN" to go free

MorningSong...I beseech you...I ask of thee....present one post.....or do the right thing and allow this innocent person to float away to sit on the right hand side of God absolved of blame ....

if the evidence does not fit.....you must acquit

one post MorningSong..........one post

Have a question for the 3 "discussing" christianity and Jesus is or is not GOD. Are you christian in an arminian sense, calvanist or reformed or Jehovah's witness. Though all 3 have a Jesus, they do have differences in their beliefs and in a Trinity or not. Some believe some are chosen and some are not. Lets get to the bottom of where your "belief" in Christianity stems from? That will help solve a lot.

The following post is especially being directed

to Jehovah witnesses and mormons , in order to help them better

understand who Jesus really is.


The following scriptures will show that Jesus is as much God

as the Father is God...

for again..we serve only ONE GOD .

Yes...there are 3 distinct persons that make up ONE GOD.......

but still.....There is ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY.

WE SERVE ONLY ONE GOD .


...........................WHO IS JESUS?.............................


Numerous titles and attributes of Jehovah found in the Hebrew

Scriptures are applied directly to Jesus in the Christian Greek

Scriptures.




Jehovah knows “all things.” (1 John 3:20; Psalm 147:5)....... Jesus

knows “all things.” (John 16:30)




Jehovah is the only one who knows the hearts of all men. (1 Kings

8:39; Jeremiah 17:9-10)....... Jesus knows the hearts of all men.

(John 2:24-25; Rev. 2:18, 23)




Jehovah is our sanctifier. (Exodus 31:13)....... Jesus sanctifies

us. (Hebrews 10:10)




Jehovah is our peace. (Judges 6:23)....... Jesus is our peace.

(Ephesians 2:14)




Jehovah is our righteousness. (Jeremiah 23:6)....... Jesus is our

righteousness. ( 1 Corinthians 1:30)




Jehovah is our healer. (Exodus 15:26)....... Jesus heals us. (Acts

9:34)




Jehovah God dwells in us. (2 Corinthians 6:16)....... Jesus is in us

(Romans 8:10).




Jehovah is the giver of life who will not allow His people to

be “snatched” out of His hand. (Deuteronomy 32:39)....... Jesus is

the giver of life who will not allow His people to be “snatched”

out of His hand. (John 10:28)





Jehovah’s voice is “like the roar of rushing waters.” (Ezekiel

43:2)....... Jesus’ “voice was like the sound of rushing waters.”

(Revelation 1:15)




Jehovah is present everywhere. (Proverbs 15:3; Jeremiah 23:24; I

Kings 8:27.......) Jesus is omnipresent. (John 1:48; Matthew 18:20;

28:20)




Jehovah’s nature does not change. (Malachi 3:6)....... Jesus’ nature

does not change. (Hebrews 13:8)




Jehovah is the only God we are to “serve.” (2 Kings 17:35.......)

Jesus is to be served. (Col. 3:24)




Jehovah is the only God to be “worshipped.” (Exodus 34:14).......

Jesus receives the same honor and “worship” that the Father

receives. (John 5:23; Revelation 5:11-14 compare with Revelation

4:10-11) 8. No angel can receive “worship.” (Revelation 22:8-9)





Jehovah the Lord is to be set apart as holy. (Isaiah 8:12b-

13)....... Jesus as Jehovah is to be set apart as holy. (1 Peter

3:14b-15a)





Jehovah’s glory is not to be given to another. (Isaiah 42:8).......

Jesus shares Jehovah’s glory. (John. 17:5)





God’s name is Jehovah (or Yahweh--YHWH). (Isaiah 42:8)....... Jesus

has Jehovah’s name. (John 17:11; John 16:14-15)





Jehovah is the only God to be mentioned in prayer. (Exodus

23:13)....... Christians are to pray to Jesus. (John 14:14)





Calling upon Jehovah (Joel 2:32) is the same as calling upon Jesus.

(Acts 2:21; Romans 10:9-13)





Jehovah “the true God” is called “eternal life.” (1 John

5:20)....... Jesus is called “the eternal life.” (1 John 1:2)




Jehovah is the “mighty God.” (Jeremiah 32:17-18; Isaiah 10:20-

21)....... Jesus is the “mighty God” (Isaiah 9:6) who is “Almighty.”




(Revelation 1:7-8) THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD. (1 Timothy 1:17; Isaiah 44:8)




Jehovah is an “everlasting light.” (Psalm 27:1; Isaiah 60:19-

20)....... Jesus is the light of men and the everlasting light of

the future city. (John 1:4-9; Revelation 21:23)




Jehovah is “the first and the last.” (Isaiah 44:6; 48:12).......

Jesus is the “first and the last.” (Revelation 1:17-18; 22:12-13,
20)



Jehovah is the “Alpha and the Omega.” (Revelation 1:8; Revelation

21:6-7)....... Jesus is the “Alpha and the Omega.” (Revelation 22:12-
13, 20)




Jehovah’s title is “the Holy One.” (Isaiah 47:4)....... Jesus

is “the Holy One.” (Acts 3:14; John 6:69)




Jehovah is the “stumbling stone” of Israel. (Isaiah 8:13-15).......

Jesus is the “stumbling stone” of Israel. (1 Peter 2:6-8)




John the Baptist was to prepare the way for Jehovah. (Isaiah

40:3)....... The Jehovah who came was Jesus. (Mark 1:1-4; John 1:6-7, 23)




Jehovah is the one who was “pierced.” (Zechariah 12:10)....... Jesus

is the pierced Jehovah. (Rev. 1:7-8)




The Jehovah who was sold for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11:13)

is Jesus. (Matthew 27:2-6)




Jehovah is Lord of the elements. (Psalm 89:8-9)....... Jesus is Lord

of the elements. (Matthew 8:26-27; John 2:7-9)




Jehovah is the great Judge who gives life to whom he wishes and who

renders to each man “according” to his “deeds.” (Psalm 98:9;

Deuteronomy 32:39; Jeremiah 17:9-10)....... Jesus is the only judge

who gives life to whom he wishes and renders to each

man “according” to his “deeds.” (John 5:21-22; Revelation 2:18, 23)




Jehovah is the only one who can forgive sins. (Mark 2:7; Daniel

9:9)....... Jesus forgives sins. (Mark 2:10-11; Luke 24:46-47)




Jehovah is the great “shepherd” who leads his people to “the spring

of the water of life.” (Psalm 23:1-2; Revelation 21:6-7).......

Jesus as the “shepherd” of His people, leads them “to springs of

the water of life.” (John 10:11-18; Revelation 7:17)

THERE IS ONLY ONE SHEPHERD—John 10:16.




Jehovah is “Lord of Lords.” (Deuteronomy 10:17)....... Jesus

is “Lord of Lords.” (Revelation 17:14; 19:16)




The Father is Lord of all. (Matthew 11:25; Acts 17:24).......Jesus

is “Lord of all.” (Acts 10:36)

THERE IS ONLY ONE LORD. (Jude 4)




Jehovah is the Savior. (Isaiah 45:21-22)....... Jesus is the Savior.

(Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1)

THERE IS ONLY ONE SAVIOR. (Isaiah 43:11)




Jehovah created the universe. (Psalm 102:25-27)....... Jesus created

the universe. (John 1:3; Colossians 1:15-19; 11. Hebrews 1:10-12) 12.

THERE IS ONLY ONE CREATOR. (Isaiah 44:24)




Isaiah saw Jehovah. (Isaiah 6:1-5)....... The Jehovah that Isaiah

saw was Jesus. (John 12:41)





Could it be that Jehovah gave Jesus all these qualities, and

therefore, Jesus is a “lesser God” under Jehovah? NO!!! For Jehovah

declares: “For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there

is no one like Me.”—Isaiah 46:9



for more info.....

http://4witness.org/jehovahs_witness/jw_deity.php#footnote9b


Once more, Jesus is fully God as well as fully man.


God the Father and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit

make up only ONE GOD.

THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.

Three persons in one God..yes..but still...all three persons make

up only ONE GOD ALMIGHTY.

Now..this is not saying that the person of the father is the

person of the son, and vice versa..each person of the trinity

is unique in who he is..yet all three persons ...

still make up ONLY...ONE...GOD.


WE SERVE ONE GOD.

ONLY

Hope this helps now.

Funches.....here is the ONE post...just for you.


JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS. (John 16:30)

Showing how the 3 persons of the trinity make up ONE GOD.....

but each person is not the other...each person is unique unto

himself..yet all 3 persons make up ONLY ONE GOD.

John 16:23-33(NKJV)


“And in that day you will ask Me nothing. Most assuredly, I say

to you, whatever you ASK THE FATHER IN MY NAME He will give you.

Until now you have asked nothing in My name. Ask, and you will

receive, that your joy may be full.



Jesus Christ Has Overcome the World

“These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; but

the time is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative

language, but I will tell you plainly about the Father. In that

day you will ask in My name, and I do not say to you that I shall

pray the Father for you; for the Father Himself loves you,

because you have loved Me, and have believed that I came forth from

God. I CAME FORTH FROM THE FATHER and HAVE COME INTO THE WORLD.

Again, I leave the world and go to the Father.”


His disciples said to Him, “See, now You are speaking plainly,

and using no figure of speech! Now WE ARE SURE YOU KNOW ALL

THINGS, and have no need that anyone should question You. By this

WE BELIEVE that YOU CAME FORTH FROM GOD.”


Jesus answered them, “DO YOU NOW BELIEVE? Indeed the hour is

coming, yes, has now come, that you will be scattered, each to his

own, and will leave Me alone. And yet I am not alone, because the

Father is with Me. These things I have spoken to you, that in Me

you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but

be of good cheer, I HAVE OVERCOME THE WORLD.”

MorningSong...during (John 16:30) Jesus couldn't have known all things because he had to ask God "why hath thou forsaken me" ...which means if Jesus had to ask God a question it proves that he wasn't omniscient and also wasn't equal to God or fully God and therefore wasn't God ...see how logical the bible is...

but anyway ((John 16:30) took place right before Jesus was taken to be crucified which means you won't find a passage of Jesus knowing the time of Judgement before he asked God "why hath thou forsaken me"

this was why you were asked to provide "ONE PASSAGE" after Jesus entered into Heaven that clearly states that Jesus now know the time of his second coming

MorningSong...just admit there is no such passage ....

I've never been a member of the religious sector but I did watch Star Trek (kirk, spock)

Funches...we have already been thru this :

Jesus was bearing

the sins of the whole world, when He said," Father why has thou

forsaken me".



Funches, I have also shown you numerous scriptures pointing to the

DEITY of Jesus.

I realize that

no matter how many scriptures I share with you or anyone

else for that matter; it is still not going to fully

make sense, until one's spirtual eyes are opened....

where then the holy spirit becomes the teacher .


But until then,it is really quite understandable actually,

for the deeper things of the Word to not be understood clearly

at all.

But yet,God does reveal enough of His Word to us at first, so

that we may be able to come to Him and know Him.



Only After we are born again, does the deeper things of God's

Word begin to really make sense.



So Funches...because of that, I will close with this:

Open up the bible, and with a sincere heart, ask God to

help you get to KNOW Him ..... while you SEEK Him with your

whole heart now.

And God WILL.


Funches, I think God has a calling on your life ,actually.

Seek Him with your whole heart now.

Be Blessed ,Funches.