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Topic: Humans, Humans we have gone through enough
MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Thu 06/09/11 10:18 PM Edited by MorningSong on Thu 06/09/11 10:24 PM
Here ... one last time...we see that God the Son is just as Much God as God the Father. God the Father Himself called Jesus Elohim. In Hebrews 1:8 the writer of Hebrews tells us "But of the Son He says, ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the righteous scepter is the scepter of Your kingdom.’" This is a direct quote from Psalm 45:6. The word for God here is Elohim. God the Father calls Jesus Elohim, the God of Genesis 1:1 who created the earth, heavens and man.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 06/10/11 06:09 AM
Funches.....here is the ONE post...just for you. JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS. (John 16:30) MorningSong...during (John 16:30) Jesus couldn't have known all things because he had to ask God "why hath thou forsaken me" ...which means if Jesus had to ask God a question it proves that he wasn't omniscient and also wasn't equal to God or fully God and therefore wasn't God ...see how logical the bible is... but anyway ((John 16:30) took place right before Jesus was taken to be crucified which means you won't find a passage of Jesus knowing the time of Judgement before he asked God "why hath thou forsaken me" this was why you were asked to provide "ONE PASSAGE" after Jesus entered into Heaven that clearly states that Jesus now know the time of his second coming MorningSong...just admit there is no such passage .... Funches...we have already been thru this : Funches, I have also shown you numerous scriptures pointing to the DEITY of Jesus. I realize that no matter how many scriptures I share with you or anyone else for that matter; it is still not going to fully make sense, until one's spirtual eyes are opened.... . wouldn't opening up one's spiritual eyes or eyes in general apply to everyone .... because the bible makes it clear that the father knows and it makes if clear that the son does not know the time of judgement day no matter how you try to use the trinity to deflect from the original question you will never find anything in the bible that states that Jesus stopped being The Son ...even when Jesus entered Heaven he was still "The Son" which is why the keyword is "The Son" and this is why I've asked you for the passage which clearly states that "The Son" does know the time of his second coming can you present such a passage? without all the trinity mumbo jumbo

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 06/10/11 06:32 AM
Here ... one last time...we see that God the Son is just as Much God as God the Father. God the Father Himself called Jesus Elohim. In Hebrews 1:8 the writer of Hebrews tells us "But of the Son He says, ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the righteous scepter is the scepter of Your kingdom.’" This is a direct quote from Psalm 45:6. The word for God here is Elohim. God the Father calls Jesus Elohim, the God of Genesis 1:1 who created the earth, heavens and man. MorningSong....are you saying that Christians believe that Jesus is Yahweh and drown practically everyone on the planet in The Great Flood including newborn babies....That Jesus is responsible for killing the first born of Egypt ...but yet he's the savior?...sure seems like a contradiction .. so are you sure you want to make claims that Jesus is also The Father

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Fri 06/10/11 03:02 PM Edited by MorningSong on Fri 06/10/11 03:18 PM
No Funches........this does NOT mean that Jesus is the Father... or the Father is Jesus .... or the Holy Spirit is the Father.... or the Father is ther Holy Spirit... or that Jesus is the Holy Spirt...... or the Holy Spirit is Jesus.... NO!!!!!! Each DISTINCT person REMAINS a distinct person within the trinity....always..but those 3 persons still make up ONLY ONE GOD. There has always been ONE GOD. God is UNchanging. But the Father HAS Now GIVEN ALL GLORY TO His SON JESUS....becasue of what Jesus did on that cross for us. GOD KNOWS ALL THINGS... AND since Jesus Is also God the Son , then JESUS TOO...KNOWS ALL THINGS.....ESPECIALLY NOW THAT HE HAS ALL HIS GLORY BACK, AS IT WAS BEFORE HIS INCARNATION. (Read alllll the scriptures I have alreasdy shared earlier). ONe final time......although there are 3 distinct persons of the trinity, all three persons STILL MAKE UP ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD WE SERVE. NOW HOWEVER.... There ARE groups that say there isn't even any threee persons of the trinity ......they say since the the Father and the Son are both God, then the Father and the Son are the same person....WHICH IS TOTALLY INCORRECT !!! Jesus IS the SON...Jesus is NOT the Father.....and vivc versa.... But they are BOTH God, becasue they are BOTH part of the GODHEAD....AS ALSO IS the Holy Spirit. But each person does NOT take the place of the othr person in the trinity. Yet the three persons still MAKE UP ONLY ONE GOD. AND ONCE MORE.....BECASUE GOD THE FATHER HAS GIVEN ALL GLORY TO THE SON, IS THE REASON THE FATHER SAID TO HIS SON, "YOUR THRONE O GOD ,IS FOREVER AND EVER ,AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF YOUR KINGDOM." Hope this helps now Funches. Funches.....now..when christians pray , we still come to the Father in prayer.....but we come to the Father in Jesus Name.....but it is also ok to just pray to Jesus too.. we still worship GOD...we Thank The Heavenly Father..we Worship Jesus , we worship God. we thank God for His Holy Spirit also ...... but we Pray to the Father in the Name that is above every Name...the Name of Jesus. In other words, we still Thank Our Heavenly Father also....cause again..we are serving JUST ONE GOD ALMIHTY. But personally , I don't think God is some petty God who cares that we follow some exact formula of prayer, when we come to Him . No...God just wants us to come to Him with a sincere heart. But I believe the real issue in this long discussion, is about knowing WHO JESUS REALLY IS !!! Jesus is not just some demi-god , or some angel, as some groups out there would believe..... or just a prophet or a teacher. NO. Jesus is as much God as the Father is. Jesus (the WORD) is the VERY ONE Who ALWAYS WAS/IS .......right from the very foundations of the World. HE WAS THE ONE WHO CREATED THE WORLDS.... THE VERY ONE ....WHO CREATED IT ALL. Amen.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 06/10/11 05:18 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 06/10/11 05:19 PM
I have multiple personalities. Probably more than three, but there are three main ones. But put them all together, and they are me. So, I can understand the trinity concept. I think a soul splits into three, then can also split into more persons / personalities.