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limits are necessary to avoid chaos billions of people all doing 'whatever' would , indeed, be chaotic,,, How about this? Instead of teaching limits on what we can do, how about we start EDUCATING on what things are better for us than others? Somehow I think that would work a lot better than saying, don't do this or don't do that. When you constantly tell people no, then you are asking for rebellion. no is not an enemy, no is a necessary balance to YES its a shame so many see 'no' in and of itself as some flaw on the human ability to experience their life,,,, It's not the no that is the problem so much, as the fact that so often when it comes to laws, it basically across comes as: "don't do this cause I say so", instead of: "don't do this because....." If you start to teach the person WHY some things are better than other things, you're more likely to get them to listen than if you teach only obedience. please explain to me an example of a law that is set 'dont do this' just because "I SAID SO" as opposed to laws that are set because 'this is how the COMMUNITY wishes to run'? I got a better question for you. How much are the communities manipulated into the different laws put on the books by the media and government? How much of the thinking truly comes from them? Even if it did, to me a good community would understand the importance of freedom of choice and personal responsibility. This is something that is very much lacking anymore in lieu of group think, and it's not a good thing. If it isn't going to harm you, you have no business telling someone else they can't do it. harm comes in many stages, some are instant, some occur later in a chain reaction,,and the community, like a household , will not be able to please everyone all the time, but must have some GUIDE as to how they will run,,,,, again we are debating extremes, some seem opposed to any limitations because they are equating it with EXCLUSIVE group think, there is a BALANCE , in the middle of exclusive group think or EXCLUSIVE 'whats good for me' individuality,, that is essential to keeping some symblance of order,,, Again, EDUCATION. If we would go back to educating instead of dictating, a lot of the laws on the books would become obsolete. You seem to think that everyone is gonna go nuts without anything ruling them. But I don't think that's neccessarily the case. It's not like consequences still aren't gonna exist, even if there's no law making it so. |
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limits are necessary to avoid chaos billions of people all doing 'whatever' would , indeed, be chaotic,,, How about this? Instead of teaching limits on what we can do, how about we start EDUCATING on what things are better for us than others? Somehow I think that would work a lot better than saying, don't do this or don't do that. When you constantly tell people no, then you are asking for rebellion. no is not an enemy, no is a necessary balance to YES its a shame so many see 'no' in and of itself as some flaw on the human ability to experience their life,,,, It's not the no that is the problem so much, as the fact that so often when it comes to laws, it basically across comes as: "don't do this cause I say so", instead of: "don't do this because....." If you start to teach the person WHY some things are better than other things, you're more likely to get them to listen than if you teach only obedience. please explain to me an example of a law that is set 'dont do this' just because "I SAID SO" as opposed to laws that are set because 'this is how the COMMUNITY wishes to run'? I got a better question for you. How much are the communities manipulated into the different laws put on the books by the media and government? How much of the thinking truly comes from them? Even if it did, to me a good community would understand the importance of freedom of choice and personal responsibility. This is something that is very much lacking anymore in lieu of group think, and it's not a good thing. If it isn't going to harm you, you have no business telling someone else they can't do it. harm comes in many stages, some are instant, some occur later in a chain reaction,,and the community, like a household , will not be able to please everyone all the time, but must have some GUIDE as to how they will run,,,,, again we are debating extremes, some seem opposed to any limitations because they are equating it with EXCLUSIVE group think, there is a BALANCE , in the middle of exclusive group think or EXCLUSIVE 'whats good for me' individuality,, that is essential to keeping some symblance of order,,, Again, EDUCATION. If we would go back to educating instead of dictating, a lot of the laws on the books would become obsolete. You seem to think that everyone is gonna go nuts without anything ruling them. But I don't think that's neccessarily the case. It's not like consequences still aren't gonna exist, even if there's no law making it so. I dont think anyone does RULE Me, I think I live in a society which has laws and clearly defined consequences for non adherence the nature of having any LAW is that someone has to write it and others have to AGREE to it, it is the law of majority rule which is pretty much what DEMOCRACY is supposed to be if we wish to live on an island by ourself and have it 'our way' we can try to do that, but if we live AMONGST others we need to be able to compromise and have a MUTUAL understanding of the goals and values that will be enforced and encouraged in that society,,,, its no different than renting from a landlord, we are born here but we get plenty of SUPPORT and PRIVILEGES as a result that arent for nothing, in return we agree to live by certain standards that those who enforce and make those privileges possible stated we should come to a MAJORITY agreement to live by,,,, |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Thu 05/26/11 02:48 PM
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cowboys said: God hates no one. God is a loving parent whom punishes his disobedient children. God doesn't punish anyone, (that is soooo Pat Robertson) we do that all by ourselves...a loving parent doesn't punish, we discipline and guide. A loving parent doesn't punish children for experiencing life, after all, that's what were here for...the experience and growth. Not to live in fear, walk on egg shells and believe all the garbage society fills us up with....were not here to be sheep! God doesn't punish anyone while we're on still living on this Earth, that is true. There is one, final judgment we will face. And according to which verdict we are judged with determines if we are punished or not. Cowboy.....according to what you have said on this forum: you DON'T believe Jesus ressurrected.... you DON'T believe Jesus died.... you DON'T believe in the deity of Jesus.... YET you come on here and talk about christianity. Cowboy....WITHOUT beleiving that Jesus died, rose again from the dead, and WITHOUT beleiving in the DEITY of Jesus, YOU CANNOT EVEN BE A CHRISTIAN IN THE FIRST PLACE. A different Jesus is what yOu are talking about on here.. not the Jesus of the bible. UNTIL you believe, STOP representing Christianity on here!!! BECAUSE YOU ARE SPREADING TOO MANY ERRORS ON HERE!!! CHRISTIANITY IS ABOUT RELATIONSHIP !!!! NOT RELIGION. WHEN MANKIND GETS BACK INTO RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, AND NOT JUST INTO RELIGION , THEN THEN THEN THERE WILL BE PEACE...... WITHIN THE HEARTS OF EVERY MAN. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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cowboy represents cowboy, I dont believe and hope it is not the belief that any post in these threads is from some lone representative of 'christianity'
we are all individuals who represent our self and we try our best to understand the nourishment provided us (whether biblical or academic) I hope noone believes I am representing the whole of christianity in these threads, just as I might post in a race relations thread about being 'black' without having to be the representative of all 'blackness' I only represent myself and my understanding, and hopefully I can learn more from those things others might understand which I have yet to .... life is learning and christians continue to learn at all stages, we should be careful from rebuking each other and turning each other away in such a manner,,, |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Thu 05/26/11 03:12 PM
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UNLESS a person BELIEVES in the DEITY of Christ, and
in Jesus death and ressurrection, the HOLY SPIRIT will NOT even INDWELL a person, UNLESS he BELIEVES . That person is NOT a christian...period..and can only present his own religious views on here..and will MISINTERPRET a Lot of scriptures because of the very fact, that the Holy Spirit does NOT indwell that person. I don't care how sweet the person is, the HOLY SPIRIT will NOT INDWELL that person...and all you have on here as a result is his own religious views..not views that come from hearing from the Holy Spirit . To KEEP representing christianity on here and NOT even believe in the fundamental TRUTHS of christianity , is NOT good. Period. TOOO many errors come as a result. It's a false Jesus being represented on here, then. IF you say, Jesus is Lord and Saviour, but DON'T believe Jesus is GOD ALMIGHTY(right along with the Father and Holy Spirit)....then what kind of strange Jesus are you presenting to the world on here. It is NOT the Jesus of the Bible. |
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The thread is, was about peace....peace, not religion. Why must it always turn into a sermon. F uc K!!!!! |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 05/26/11 03:12 PM
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UNLESS a person BELIEVES in the deity of Christ, and believes in Jesus death and ressurrection, the HOLY SPIRIT will NOT even INDWELL a person, UNLESS he BELIEVES . That person is NOT a christian...period..and can only present his own religious views on here..and will MISINTERPRET a Lot of scriptures because the Holy Spirt does NOT indwell that person. I don't care how sweet the person is, the HOLY SPIRIT will NOT INDWELL a person...and all yuo have as a result is religious views..not views that come from having relationship . To KEEP representing christianity on here and NOT even believe in the fundamental TRUTHS of christianity , is NOT good. Period. TOOO many errors come as a result. hate to state the obvious. but all ANYONE can do here (regardless of religious belief) is represent / present their 'own views' a christian seeks the lessons of christ and christians come in all stages of learning,,,,, cowboy is young and I would hope that whatever errors he makes he will seek to correct himself and a 'christian' will point him in the direction of correction as opposed to just condemning and turning him away ok,, sermon done,,, (sorry lady..lol) |
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PEACE will come when we realize Jesus was NOT about
RELIGION but RELATIONSHIP. Cowboy has been shown many times already what the Word says,and just ignores...he can keep spreading his version on here....fine..... But DON'T Call it Christianity. IF he continues ...fine....I made my final point . |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 05/26/11 03:25 PM
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what the word says and what the word MEANS In context are not clear correlations in most cases,,,
its much more to it than that and he I am sure he will use the time he has to learn, I have every confidence that he will,even if he doesnt choose to learn it on a forum or from any of us 'christians' ,,what were YOU doing at that age? |
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PEACE will come when we realize Jesus was NOT about RELIGION but RELATIONSHIP. Cowboy has been shown many times already what the Word says,and just ignores...he can keep spreading his version on here....fine..... But DON'T Call it Christianity. IF he continues ...fine....I made my final point . I'm not a christian, matters not to me...I am however one who desires peace! cowboy's posts are redundant and make me yawn...hence the dead horse! Feel free to open your own thread to discuss the different types of christians....i actually may join in on that one. |
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I just wanted to say that the women posting on this thread look very beautiful today.
It is that easy We should start with compliments when we wake up that is the way to peace and love Have you look into the mirror lately? |
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Have you look into the mirror lately? yes i have.....need sunshine on the coast, i'm a little pale. : ) |
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There will be no peace as long as there are Muslims in this world. wow just wow 
wow from me too.....wasn't "mylifetoday" just recently complaining about how Christians get persecuted in the forum and now he's in here doing the same to Muslims but anyway is this another example of The Christian Love concept...Christians are required to love their enemies but yet get to hate them at the same time ...you get to kill two birds with one stone could this be one of the factors that draw people to Christianity...if you don't like people just become a Christian and then you are require to love them and get to threaten them with hell at the same time now I understand the story "The Christmas Carol" ..Bah Humbugging Ebenezer Scoorge didn't like people until three Christian Ghost showed up and scared the living ba-jesus out of him and converted him into a Christian then amazingly in less than 24 hours he loved everyone ..he even brought someone a turkey |
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cowboys said: God hates no one. God is a loving parent whom punishes his disobedient children. God doesn't punish anyone, (that is soooo Pat Robertson) we do that all by ourselves...a loving parent doesn't punish, we discipline and guide. A loving parent doesn't punish children for experiencing life, after all, that's what were here for...the experience and growth. Not to live in fear, walk on egg shells and believe all the garbage society fills us up with....were not here to be sheep! God doesn't punish anyone while we're on still living on this Earth, that is true. There is one, final judgment we will face. And according to which verdict we are judged with determines if we are punished or not. Cowboy.....according to what you have said on this forum: you DON'T believe Jesus ressurrected.... you DON'T believe Jesus died.... you DON'T believe in the deity of Jesus.... YET you come on here and talk about christianity. Cowboy....WITHOUT beleiving that Jesus died, rose again from the dead, and WITHOUT beleiving in the DEITY of Jesus, YOU CANNOT EVEN BE A CHRISTIAN IN THE FIRST PLACE. A different Jesus is what yOu are talking about on here.. not the Jesus of the bible. UNTIL you believe, STOP representing Christianity on here!!! BECAUSE YOU ARE SPREADING TOO MANY ERRORS ON HERE!!! CHRISTIANITY IS ABOUT RELATIONSHIP !!!! NOT RELIGION. WHEN MANKIND GETS BACK INTO RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, AND NOT JUST INTO RELIGION , THEN THEN THEN THERE WILL BE PEACE...... WITHIN THE HEARTS OF EVERY MAN. What in the world are you talking about? 1. Jesus is not God our father, this would be technically impossible since Jesus prayed to our father, Jesus spoke with our father, Jesus was with our father in the beginning, our father spoke telling the world Jesus was his son. Jesus can NOT be our father. When someone says "god" That is a general term for our father when speaking to secular people or people of other beliefs as to make sure they know whom we are talking about. 2. I absolutely believe Jesus resurrected. Jesus defeated death for us all. Jesus defeated death and offers us a path to defeat death as well. 3. Yes I believe Jesus died, no I don't believe Jesus died. When speaking of spirituality "death" is referred to as not going to heaven or something besides going to heaven. Our physical bodies die, there is no doubt about that. Regardless if someone has accepted Jesus as lord and savior, one day their body will die. Passing away on Earth being called "death" is a secular term. That is not dying, again the only reward for sin is death, and that would be not going to heaven. One must die on Earth first to get either to heaven or remain dead. The deaths we are talking about are two totally different views of death. Most people refer to my view of death as the "second death". Which this term is not in the scriptures and is why I do not use it. Cowboy....WITHOUT beleiving that Jesus died, rose again from the dead, and WITHOUT beleiving in the DEITY of Jesus, About the death/resurrection view in earlier mentioned paragraphs. I do believe in the deity of Jesus. Jesus is our god. That does not mean Jesus is our father. Jesus is one with our father, yes. But he is not our father on Earth, therefore he is not our father. We are all God's. Know ye not that ye are gods? Jesus is the god given power over us. He is our father's only begotten child "god". CHRISTIANITY IS ABOUT RELATIONSHIP !!!! NOT RELIGION. WHEN MANKIND GETS BACK INTO RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, AND NOT JUST INTO RELIGION , THEN THEN THEN THERE WILL BE PEACE...... WITHIN THE HEARTS OF EVERY MAN Absolutely. It is all about our relationship with our father and Jesus. It's about being obedient to our father's commandments, the instructions he has given us. |
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oh my......
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Thu 05/26/11 04:34 PM
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oh my......
I almost find it humorous to watch them go back and forth, because neither one is right. Kinda like the blind leading the blind. |
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There will be no peace as long as there are Muslims in this world. wow just wow
wow from me too.....wasn't "mylifetoday" just recently complaining about how Christians get persecuted in the forum and now he's in here doing the same to Muslims but anyway is this another example of The Christian Love concept...Christians are required to love their enemies but yet get to hate them at the same time ...you get to kill two birds with one stone could this be one of the factors that draw people to Christianity...if you don't like people just become a Christian and then you are require to love them and get to threaten them with hell at the same time now I understand the story "The Christmas Carol" ..Bah Humbugging Ebenezer Scoorge didn't like people until three Christian Ghost showed up and scared the living ba-jesus out of him and converted him into a Christian then amazingly in less than 24 hours he loved everyone ..he even brought someone a turkey A true Christian, one whom does their best to follow our commandments and not just someone who has taken the title would never hate anyone. Hate is of the Devil. We are to love everyone regardless of their sex, culture, origin, color, beliefs, or anything other. They do no condemn anyone, it is not their job, nor do we have that ability. We enlighten people with the knowledge, but we are not saying THAT PERSON is going to burn. Sounds like you're taking it quite guilty when someone speaks of this. Things mentioned in this forum are not directed at any person, unless their name is mentioned in what is said. No threats, just information of the possible outcomes. No one knows who will or won't go to heaven or burn, it is not our place to make such a judgment. Again, less the person's name is included in what is being said, it is not directed at that person for this is a community forum. Not personal emails, letters, or anything of that nature. |
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searching for the humor now.....a gift in all things! : )
general religion chat...fair game I suppose |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 05/26/11 04:46 PM
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I just wanted to say that the women posting on this thread look very beautiful today. It is that easy We should start with compliments when we wake up that is the way to peace and love Have you look into the mirror lately? why thank you,, I have the three a day rule, I give AT LEAST Three compliments a day to others, (and thats on the low side) cowboy, I think your views on love and faith are beautifully intended and your heart a loving one ladylid, I think your idealistic views of individuality are charming and your heart, also, a loving one green, I think your attempts to spread and advocate for peace are likewise, loving and admirable |
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I just wanted to say that the women posting on this thread look very beautiful today. It is that easy We should start with compliments when we wake up that is the way to peace and love Have you look into the mirror lately? why thank you,, I have the three a day rule, I give AT LEAST Three compliments a day to others, (and thats on the low side) Never heard of one making that form of goal for a day, that is absolutely beautiful :). |
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