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still waiting for your experience she said it her self, even though hospitals and the CDC admitted to over counting covid numbers. she's not willing to accept the truth, even from them. as it is not a view point she shares. My point here is that being de-sensitized to the death rate of Covid is not a viewpoint I share.
Did they let someone from Fox News in here? lol no actually it was CNN and CNBC that reported it recently. you know the same guy's that canceled fox about a year back, for originally talking about it?? actually I quoted you directly. I did speak my opinion about what you said, but I could use your own words more completely if you wish . You did quote, buy you also paraphrased, thus, the problem. I do care about the people who have died from COVID, in fact, more so than what any numbers report. That’s what matters to me. Read anything into that you want, I don’t care. Hospitals had an obligation to keep all Covid patients isolated so they should treat anyone with Covid as they have Covid. How hospitals and how death certificates counted people are not one in the same. A death certificate has a primary cause and a contributing cause. So a cancer patients primary cause would be cancer with Covid as a contributor.
covid was not even a contributor in the cancer case I sited now in the courts. the death certificate was based on the medical report that was also falsified. the woman in question, had stage 4 cancer and chose to stop taking her chemo. the cause of her death was her cancer. after she died, they ran a test for covid 6 times, and only had 1 positive hit. that is why the family is currently suing the hospital for giving them a falsified death certificate.. I guess it is OK when you take what was said to suit your own view point. you can check the CDC report by googling, or you can just check the other thread where I posted their findings and the graph showing their findings. and also google about wht heads of hospitals are saying about being told to misrepresent the covid counts in their own words from their news interviews I even quoted the dem mayor of new york city. going off about the numbers being rigged as to the John hopkins report not being legit. it was covered by mainstream media CBS and ABC. so it must have been ligit enough for them. So I guess JH’s saying otherwise is not important. I’m curious what led that family to sue when they could have just had the death certificate amended. I dont know if you are aware, but it is a criminal act to falsify a death certificate. so they filed charges with the court, and are suing as is their right. It will be interesting to see how that all pans out. well this is oregon. if we were any bluer we would be turning to ice. it will depend on how long it will take to get heard. and if it is before or after elections. and then if the socialist party retains control of the state. right now the only law that matters is GOV. BROWNS LAW. but she can not run again. |
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still waiting for your experience she said it her self, even though hospitals and the CDC admitted to over counting covid numbers. she's not willing to accept the truth, even from them. as it is not a view point she shares. My point here is that being de-sensitized to the death rate of Covid is not a viewpoint I share.
Did they let someone from Fox News in here? lol no actually it was CNN and CNBC that reported it recently. you know the same guy's that canceled fox about a year back, for originally talking about it?? actually I quoted you directly. I did speak my opinion about what you said, but I could use your own words more completely if you wish . You did quote, buy you also paraphrased, thus, the problem. I do care about the people who have died from COVID, in fact, more so than what any numbers report. That’s what matters to me. Read anything into that you want, I don’t care. Hospitals had an obligation to keep all Covid patients isolated so they should treat anyone with Covid as they have Covid. How hospitals and how death certificates counted people are not one in the same. A death certificate has a primary cause and a contributing cause. So a cancer patients primary cause would be cancer with Covid as a contributor.
covid was not even a contributor in the cancer case I sited now in the courts. the death certificate was based on the medical report that was also falsified. the woman in question, had stage 4 cancer and chose to stop taking her chemo. the cause of her death was her cancer. after she died, they ran a test for covid 6 times, and only had 1 positive hit. that is why the family is currently suing the hospital for giving them a falsified death certificate.. I guess it is OK when you take what was said to suit your own view point. you can check the CDC report by googling, or you can just check the other thread where I posted their findings and the graph showing their findings. and also google about wht heads of hospitals are saying about being told to misrepresent the covid counts in their own words from their news interviews I even quoted the dem mayor of new york city. going off about the numbers being rigged as to the John hopkins report not being legit. it was covered by mainstream media CBS and ABC. so it must have been ligit enough for them. So I guess JH’s saying otherwise is not important. I’m curious what led that family to sue when they could have just had the death certificate amended. I dont know if you are aware, but it is a criminal act to falsify a death certificate. so they filed charges with the court, and are suing as is their right. and john hobkins can denounce any study done by the people in their medical department. that dont change where the study report came from. ot the team that wrote it. |
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still waiting for your experience she said it her self, even though hospitals and the CDC admitted to over counting covid numbers. she's not willing to accept the truth, even from them. as it is not a view point she shares. My point here is that being de-sensitized to the death rate of Covid is not a viewpoint I share.
Did they let someone from Fox News in here? lol no actually it was CNN and CNBC that reported it recently. you know the same guy's that canceled fox about a year back, for originally talking about it?? actually I quoted you directly. I did speak my opinion about what you said, but I could use your own words more completely if you wish . You did quote, buy you also paraphrased, thus, the problem. I do care about the people who have died from COVID, in fact, more so than what any numbers report. That’s what matters to me. Read anything into that you want, I don’t care. Hospitals had an obligation to keep all Covid patients isolated so they should treat anyone with Covid as they have Covid. How hospitals and how death certificates counted people are not one in the same. A death certificate has a primary cause and a contributing cause. So a cancer patients primary cause would be cancer with Covid as a contributor.
covid was not even a contributor in the cancer case I sited now in the courts. the death certificate was based on the medical report that was also falsified. the woman in question, had stage 4 cancer and chose to stop taking her chemo. the cause of her death was her cancer. after she died, they ran a test for covid 6 times, and only had 1 positive hit. that is why the family is currently suing the hospital for giving them a falsified death certificate.. I guess it is OK when you take what was said to suit your own view point. you can check the CDC report by googling, or you can just check the other thread where I posted their findings and the graph showing their findings. and also google about wht heads of hospitals are saying about being told to misrepresent the covid counts in their own words from their news interviews I even quoted the dem mayor of new york city. going off about the numbers being rigged as to the John hopkins report not being legit. it was covered by mainstream media CBS and ABC. so it must have been ligit enough for them. the hospitals had an obligation to keep people with covid sepporated, not to falsify their reason for being hospitalized. which is what the hospital admin reported they were told to do when ever a covid test came back positive. they were required to list it as a covid patient, even if they received no treatment for covid. |
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is it a good one Mort? do you think I am the only person who is confused by the ever changing direction of the CDC. WHO , Fauci and the Biden administration. Hell. they can't even agree amongst themselves. so forget about one clear direction to the public.
And you really should stop with the Trump stuff Nort ...he is not in charge and has nothing to do with what goes on between the above 4 entities. It just discounts whatever you say. Well I, for one am shocked. SHOCKED that different people in a profession can disagree on matters of public policy! Okay, not shocked. What is it you're confused about? Is it the changing guidelines on masks and distancing, and then the lengths of isolating? So you think they should make up their minds and stick to one plan, regardless of what the information tells them? Did you miss that we've had several variants of the virus, so far, that differ in severity and transmissibility? What severity would that be exactly? Death rate is 2%. Meaning 98% recovers. Currently critical is 0,1%. That's all worldwide numbers, and those numbers haven't changed for months on end. You seem to be one of those uninformed people that believe everything they're being spoon-fed without questioning it. Covid is now the deadliest pandemic in US history, 5.8million people have died worldwide. Who knows what that might be were it not for restrictions and mandates. To minimize this by saying the death rate is only 2% is careless IMO. Did you not read the study done by Johns Hopkins university that said the plan to shut down the spread , you know it was supposed to be 3 weeks and we would be back to normal. But it’s been 2 plus years and still no shut down of the virus.But the study done said they got it all wrong. Only .02 percent of lives were saved by shutting down . By locking people indoors with others caused more deaths than letting people move about freely . They took into effect the time that people were outdoors where the virus was much less contagious to others nearby. I’m sure the plague was a much more deadly virus , but their weren’t as many people in the world as there is now. That could explain why the death count sounds so staggering. Hey Bart! No, I never saw that. If you could post a link I’d like to read it though. bart embeded the page address on page 6 where he first spoke about it. you can copy and paste the address to read the study Okay, thanks! And I found out in 5 minutes of googling it’s not actually a legit John’s Hopkins study. You can google that if you like. |
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still waiting for your experience she said it her self, even though hospitals and the CDC admitted to over counting covid numbers. she's not willing to accept the truth, even from them. as it is not a view point she shares. My point here is that being de-sensitized to the death rate of Covid is not a viewpoint I share.
Did they let someone from Fox News in here? lol actually I quoted you directly. I did speak my opinion about what you said, but I could use your own words more completely if you wish . |
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is it a good one Mort? do you think I am the only person who is confused by the ever changing direction of the CDC. WHO , Fauci and the Biden administration. Hell. they can't even agree amongst themselves. so forget about one clear direction to the public.
And you really should stop with the Trump stuff Nort ...he is not in charge and has nothing to do with what goes on between the above 4 entities. It just discounts whatever you say. Well I, for one am shocked. SHOCKED that different people in a profession can disagree on matters of public policy! Okay, not shocked. What is it you're confused about? Is it the changing guidelines on masks and distancing, and then the lengths of isolating? So you think they should make up their minds and stick to one plan, regardless of what the information tells them? Did you miss that we've had several variants of the virus, so far, that differ in severity and transmissibility? What severity would that be exactly? Death rate is 2%. Meaning 98% recovers. Currently critical is 0,1%. That's all worldwide numbers, and those numbers haven't changed for months on end. You seem to be one of those uninformed people that believe everything they're being spoon-fed without questioning it. Covid is now the deadliest pandemic in US history, 5.8million people have died worldwide. Who knows what that might be were it not for restrictions and mandates. To minimize this by saying the death rate is only 2% is careless IMO. Did you not read the study done by Johns Hopkins university that said the plan to shut down the spread , you know it was supposed to be 3 weeks and we would be back to normal. But it’s been 2 plus years and still no shut down of the virus.But the study done said they got it all wrong. Only .02 percent of lives were saved by shutting down . By locking people indoors with others caused more deaths than letting people move about freely . They took into effect the time that people were outdoors where the virus was much less contagious to others nearby. I’m sure the plague was a much more deadly virus , but their weren’t as many people in the world as there is now. That could explain why the death count sounds so staggering. Hey Bart! No, I never saw that. If you could post a link I’d like to read it though. bart embeded the page address on page 6 where he first spoke about it. you can copy and paste the address to read the study |
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still waiting for your experience she said it her self, even though hospitals and the CDC admitted to over counting covid numbers. she's not willing to accept the truth, even from them. as it is not a view point she shares. My point here is that being de-sensitized to the death rate of Covid is not a viewpoint I share.
Did they let someone from Fox News in here? lol no actually it was CNN and CNBC that reported it recently. you know the same guy's that canceled fox about a year back, for originally talking about it?? |
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still waiting for your experience she said it her self, even though hospitals and the CDC admitted to over counting covid numbers. she's not willing to accept the truth, even from them. as it is not a view point she shares. My point here is that being de-sensitized to the death rate of Covid is not a viewpoint I share.
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is it a good one Mort? do you think I am the only person who is confused by the ever changing direction of the CDC. WHO , Fauci and the Biden administration. Hell. they can't even agree amongst themselves. so forget about one clear direction to the public.
And you really should stop with the Trump stuff Nort ...he is not in charge and has nothing to do with what goes on between the above 4 entities. It just discounts whatever you say. Well I, for one am shocked. SHOCKED that different people in a profession can disagree on matters of public policy! Okay, not shocked. What is it you're confused about? Is it the changing guidelines on masks and distancing, and then the lengths of isolating? So you think they should make up their minds and stick to one plan, regardless of what the information tells them? Did you miss that we've had several variants of the virus, so far, that differ in severity and transmissibility? What severity would that be exactly? Death rate is 2%. Meaning 98% recovers. Currently critical is 0,1%. That's all worldwide numbers, and those numbers haven't changed for months on end. You seem to be one of those uninformed people that believe everything they're being spoon-fed without questioning it. Covid is now the deadliest pandemic in US history, 5.8million people have died worldwide. Who knows what that might be were it not for restrictions and mandates. To minimize this by saying the death rate is only 2% is careless IMO. I believe the reported death rate to be hyper inflated, compared to the actual direct cause death rate from covid. I also believe, when the died with covid is subtracted from the caused by covid death rate is exposed, the actual covid counts will be more in line with the annual flu death rates. counting people just because they tested positive. is not the same as them dyeing from it. I’m sure the same holds true for the flu. It’s relative. I wont argue that. just as with people that die with colds. the difference is the way they are being registered. if a person with stage 4 cancer dies with the flu or a cold. cancer is listed as the cause of death. but here in the US, if they test positive with covid, they are counted as a covid death. I use this as an example, because right there is a family suing the oregon health department for falsifying the death certificate listing the wrong cause of death. their mother did not even have any symptoms of covid her blood was tested 6 times after death with only 1 possitive hit showing it in her system. the CDC released an internal report on people who died while fully vaccinated against covid. in that report 78% of those that died had 4 or more pre-existing illnesses or diseases that they were being treated for at the time of testing positive, that were more likely to be the cause of actual death, regardless to if the did or did not contract covid. and I'll remind you, this report just covered those people who had the virus while supposedly under full protection of the vaccines. you can find online where hospitals were instructed to list any patient admitted to the hospital, that tested positive for covid. as a covid patient. regardless the reason they came to the hospital to be treated for. |
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is it a good one Mort? do you think I am the only person who is confused by the ever changing direction of the CDC. WHO , Fauci and the Biden administration. Hell. they can't even agree amongst themselves. so forget about one clear direction to the public.
And you really should stop with the Trump stuff Nort ...he is not in charge and has nothing to do with what goes on between the above 4 entities. It just discounts whatever you say. Well I, for one am shocked. SHOCKED that different people in a profession can disagree on matters of public policy! Okay, not shocked. What is it you're confused about? Is it the changing guidelines on masks and distancing, and then the lengths of isolating? So you think they should make up their minds and stick to one plan, regardless of what the information tells them? Did you miss that we've had several variants of the virus, so far, that differ in severity and transmissibility? What severity would that be exactly? Death rate is 2%. Meaning 98% recovers. Currently critical is 0,1%. That's all worldwide numbers, and those numbers haven't changed for months on end. You seem to be one of those uninformed people that believe everything they're being spoon-fed without questioning it. Covid is now the deadliest pandemic in US history, 5.8million people have died worldwide. Who knows what that might be were it not for restrictions and mandates. To minimize this by saying the death rate is only 2% is careless IMO. I believe the reported death rate to be hyper inflated, compared to the actual direct cause death rate from covid. I also believe, when the died with covid is subtracted from the caused by covid death rate is exposed, the actual covid counts will be more in line with the annual flu death rates. counting people just because they tested positive. is not the same as them dyeing from it. I’m sure the same holds true for the flu. It’s relative. I wont argue that. just as with people that die with colds. the difference is the way they are being registered. if a person with stage 4 cancer dies with the flu or a cold. cancer is listed as the cause of death. but here in the US, if they test positive with covid, they are counted as a covid death. I use this as an example, because right there is a family suing the oregon health department for falsifying the death certificate listing the wrong cause of death. their mother did not even have any symptoms of covid her blood was tested 6 times after death with only 1 possitive hit showing it in her system she died from her stage 4 cancer.and she opted to stop chemo treatment. |
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is it a good one Mort? do you think I am the only person who is confused by the ever changing direction of the CDC. WHO , Fauci and the Biden administration. Hell. they can't even agree amongst themselves. so forget about one clear direction to the public.
And you really should stop with the Trump stuff Nort ...he is not in charge and has nothing to do with what goes on between the above 4 entities. It just discounts whatever you say. Well I, for one am shocked. SHOCKED that different people in a profession can disagree on matters of public policy! Okay, not shocked. What is it you're confused about? Is it the changing guidelines on masks and distancing, and then the lengths of isolating? So you think they should make up their minds and stick to one plan, regardless of what the information tells them? Did you miss that we've had several variants of the virus, so far, that differ in severity and transmissibility? What severity would that be exactly? Death rate is 2%. Meaning 98% recovers. Currently critical is 0,1%. That's all worldwide numbers, and those numbers haven't changed for months on end. You seem to be one of those uninformed people that believe everything they're being spoon-fed without questioning it. Covid is now the deadliest pandemic in US history, 5.8million people have died worldwide. Who knows what that might be were it not for restrictions and mandates. To minimize this by saying the death rate is only 2% is careless IMO. I believe the reported death rate to be hyper inflated, compared to the actual direct cause death rate from covid. I also believe, when the died with covid is subtracted from the caused by covid death rate is exposed, the actual covid counts will be more in line with the annual flu death rates. counting people just because they tested positive. is not the same as them dyeing from it. |
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Losing weight
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That's why walking back and forth is part of the 1 mile walk by Leslie Sansone. I wouldn't dare do that on the stairs as me falling of the stairs in 2012 got me TBI and with that a helluva lot of problems. I'm always very careful when going up and esp down the stairs, hihi. For me time to do my exercises again today that help strengthen abdominal muscles :) Concerning different eating habits... I'm now really used to eating different things at night. I'm also noticing that my urge to snack has gotten much less now that I'm eating nuts that I have to crack with a nutcracker first, one by one. So no more scoffing, haha. ANd then I get tired of that quite soon without feeling the need to let the snack hand go free with something else. First week that was difficult, now it's become my new normal! I dint know about you taking a bad spill, sorry about that that. I could see where steps might be a concern does your physio therapist have the 4 stair climb with hand rails?? maybe you can use that.. under their supervision. going slow and careful actually works the muscles more than doing them as you might have when you were more agile. true about shells.. you would really enjoy shelling almonds. as a snack deterrent. they slow you down so your stomach has more time to register the message to the brain, that the bodies being fed.. I just dont like wasting the money on shells, so I use the small dixie cups. with trail mix (nuts dried fruit, grain clusters, and chocolate) once I got use to not shoveling it in by the hand full. it was easy to adapt to. |
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Lock Her Up, Lock Her Up.
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We may be hearing that cheer more and more now that special investigator John Durham has shed a little light on his investigations… he has filled evidence that basically says Clinton framed Trump. Her campaign in 2016 paid to have Trumps private server infiltrated and hacked. Durhams investigation has spread to many with dirty hands that perpetrated this conspiracy. This is no less than espionage and hopefully maybe a few of these so-called news reporters can be held responsible for four years of collusion by the democrats and their MSM buddies. To Mort and a few others , you may want to search new media outlets cause you won’t here about it on msnbc or cnn. Nothing but crickets 🦗 Maybe but Durham is a political appointee of a political appointee, and even his "report" has few details as to what he's got, and it appears that he's making up crimes. So despite the title of this thread, it's very unlikely that Hillary Clinton can be charged for unsupported charges on imaginary crimes from a political hack making partisan noise to appease Trump. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a39080236/durham-report-donald-trump-worse-than-watergate/ Making up crimes? No , that is what Obama and Clinton did. But I’m not worried cause when WE vote these corrupt democrats out and elect people of principal back into our government than you will see many of these political hacks facing serious charges. this is why idens pushing to nationalize election law under DC's control. so it will be easier to control state election out comes. which was is the exact reason, voting law was given to the states in the first place. it is also the purpose of the second ammendment. to provide controls against our government from becoming a dicttorship,. |
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I think they should speak in one voice. is that too much to comprehend? even the far left news outlets such as CNN have questioned his administration on the confusion that has bombarded the public. Yeah, I guess having a single health policy spokesperson--someone trained in communication rather than just decades of experience working infectious diseases could probably help craft a more cohesive message. But understand that beside the CDC, there are the dozens if not hundreds of health agencies across the nation. In Florida, for example, the Surgeon General is a political appointee who cannot even admit that vaccines work, and you think you can corale their approach under the same guidelines as the Biden Administration? Good luck with that. Also, CNN is not a far left network. Just far-left of Fox News, OANN and Newsmax. even so, CNN has been recently confirming many of the reports from FOX news from over a year ago, that came from some of those dozens, if not hundreds of other health agency's, that CNN had canceled as providing misinformation, as FOX news was reporting it.. because the CDC has since admitted that they lied and use false data under fauci's direction. so they were forced to do so. |
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Goat Production
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hi Apple, you should have a message notification from me. in your mail in box. you can use it to reply back to me.
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Favorite Recipe,Share it too
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LOL Apple, just to be EVIL and tempt you more,
this morning I had a ham and egg on cinimon rasin bagel sandwich. MMMMMMMMM!! num num num. TASTEY LOL ;-) |
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LOL Apple, just to be EVIL and tempt you more,
this morning I had a ham and egg onion bagel sandwich. MMMMMMMMM!! num num num. TASTEY LOL ;-) |
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Goat Production
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No one eats goat over here. Not entirely sure it's edible. But I remember when living in Indonesia goat was eaten and sold on the street (fried) everywhere. However, these weren't the same animals that we call 'goat' over here. Maybe it's the same in Manila? Here you can get goat cheese, possibly in some stores goat milk. That's about it. hi cristal, Goat is Goat . and it is all good to eat. just like lamb. and would be a good alternate meat source for you, as it is very lean meat. Apple I'm not sure the question, but you produce them by getting a billy goat with a nanny goat, a few months later a kid goat shows up LOL ;-). I'm not sure if this is the right spot for talking about what comes next. as this is about pets an animals, not live stock preparation. if you want you can PM me to ask questions. |
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you dont wanna hear how I have baby goat. but they are tasty.
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Favorite Recipe,Share it too
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thank you apple,
I will try making it this way, as it is different then how I learned to make it. but because of allergy I'll be using chicken. the way I learned is similar , only using a stock pot or slow cooker, and starting by adding water and the other ingredients at the time of adding the meat. 1/2 to cup of vinegar depending on your taste, and is allowed to slow cook until meat is fork tender. something I like to do some times, is once the adobo is cooked. I will remove the meat, and cook the rice in the adobo broth so that it is compleatly infused into the rice. the left over rice(if any) is great fried with eggs the next morning. i am smiling reading the part ...infusing the rice with the adobo broth...or using left over rice....even this is filipinized way of doing it...btw my adobo back home in my village...not only fork tender but also the oil from the meat should come out ...there you can taste the savory medley of pork oil ,Garlicky,Soy,black pepper,Vinegary..if it taste salty for you...you can add more vinegar..just small to neutralize the saltiness.most cases i just put in my "cane vinegar"in the process when the oil starts to ooze out from the meat...as i check the saltiness for me to know how much vinegar ill mix in.(in case im eyeballing it) thank you Apple when I make adobo, I usually use a whole un cut chicken. in my slow cooker. and when done, the meat falls off the bone, I then will shred some of the meat with a fork to leave in the broth, when making my rice , but thats usually only when I plan to fry it the next day. but those lil philipine peppers stuffed into the white vinegar.. I'll leave to those braver then me. once was enough. thanks. I will only use maybe a tea spoon of that in the whole pot. LOL.. I will some times also save the oil fat from the broth, for frying left over steamed rice in ( or stir frying pancit, ) I learned many ways to stretch the left overs tonight I am just being lazy and making a fake ham, using a smoked turkey roast, I'll make slices ino it and put it in a roasting pan then I'll take a can of pinapple chunks(and it's juice), a cup of brown sugar some honey mustard (about a half cup or so) mix that all together into a glaze and pour it over the roast. it is allready pre cooked so I'll just stick it in the oven untill the skin starts to brown, and flip it over to brown the other side a little.the slices allow the glaze to soak into the meat and score it for serving( or making sand witches with.) |
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