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manly men? it's hard wired? dude where the hell are you getting this stuff? nothing says a man genetically has to win, thats called AN INFERIORITY COMPLEX. if you can't stand a women doing anything better then you, you better give up on life and just roll over and die. happens every day, no matter how good you are somebody is always better and it's a 50/50 shot that it could be a woman so get used to the idea. The results of almost all athletic competitions suggest that men almost always win.... Perhaps being beaten by a women, in a physical contest doesn't bother some men. And perhaps, her coming home every night talking about how she is more successful than you at work wouldn't bother some men... There's no inferiority complex here. It's just how men are wired. We don't want a women, who we are involved with sexually, to try to "one up" us. Some men may not be wired in a manly way, sorry to hear that. For them, I have two tickets to John Mayer. Are you for real? And what is it with you and John Mayer? |
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Let's get real, it may not be attractive to you but if I were you, I wouldn't speak for anyone but you and I surely wouldn't put myself in the same category as a real man.
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My father ,who is a manly man ,doesnt compete with my mom,he helps her, they are partners.They watch sports together.Thats what couples do.You wouldnt last two minutes with me because I dont deal well with the machismo bullshi t and if you want a mother move back home.
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I think you are all being too hard on him. I think that the feminist movement made us lose alot. I like having a man who will take care of the manly stuff. I like having the door opened for me. I like being taken out to dinner and not having to pay half, lol. I embrace being and acting like a woman. All he is saying is that he doesnt want to date a man. Some of his views are questionable, from how he words it, but I totally see what he is saying.
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I once had a friend
who was competitive. He thought of himself as a 'manly man' but he hated women. What kind of man hates women? Not a manly man. A GAY man!!!!! |
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I think alot of women have CHANGED through the years BECAUSE, MEN, who are in power at many companies have VIEWED employee's based on their thoughts, and habits and life styles,BUT 20 years ago, most of the top white color jobs were held by MALES. WOMEN seeing the boss being IMPRESSED with THEIR desire to watch and KNOW SPORTS, gave THEM an EDGE in their position at work. So WOMEN have change to ACT, and BE, more in the LIFE-STYLES of males, to BE,,,,in their boss's minds,,,JUST AS INTELIGENT, and GOOD as their MALE EMPLOYEE'S. WE NOW have MANY WOMEN CEO'S, 20 years ago, we had but a few. WE ARE AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN EQUAL, but its NOT been SEEN by corporate, until the last 20 years and really the last 10 years. Women were held REPRESSED by us men for to damm long. So they have had many hurdles and LEARNED to ADJUST to the THOUGHTS that employers have.  Just my THOUGHTS!!
Very interesting thoughts here. Women may have become more "masculine" because they saw that as a way to get ahead in the business world. And, through cultural interaction, passed this trait along to other women. That may explain how we got to where we are today. This cultural change has created a fundemental problem in the relations between men and women. Men and women are now both competing for the same prizes, which in some ways makes them competive against each other. However, the problem is, for a man to be attracted to a woman, or to have a successful relationship with her, he doesn't want to compete with her. |
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It seems that you come across more "career women" these days. Women who are in their thirties and forties, with looks fading fast, that still don't quite understand what men want. For some reason, with all the intelligence and value this group gives to themselves, this miss a fundamental truth. Men are not attracted to women who try to compete with them. Men, for the most part, excepting for contentious objectors, peace-niks, and fans of John Mayer, tend to like women to be feminine, soft, sensitive, etc - qualities that men typically do not (except as above) possess. Why can't these women, take off the suit, stop watching Sports Center, and just be a girl? Because they are not interested in you. They are interested in "us" or "we" or "I" as a model from their point of view. Women are not possessions. Women are females and men are males and together men and women share experiences that are unique to each complimentary relationship and the joys expressed through any given relationship are the special treats of that relationship. And that, my friend, is the way it is. |
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I'm just wondering if women in their "50's" could be part of this topic. I love a strong decisive man that can make decisions that I admire. And I love being a soft, supportive partner who is a part of the decision making process in a relationship. I have a high powered position that requires me to make major decesion all day long, it is nice to have a partner that can take over the stesses of live. Maam, you rock! I think women in their 50's could be included in this group. But, it seems that women in their 50's might have been influenced by the culture of the 50's. Consequently, they would be more pre-disposed to thinking that they should not try to show up a man, in a relationship. |
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iF MEN werent such idiots then maybe we didnt have to get jobs and take full responsibilty for our kids......how about that OP???? now thats the kind of bs i'm talking about, yes lets all bash men because you got a dud. sorry lady most men are not idiots and you don't do all the raising of the kids ok? how bout i turn this right around huh? maybe if women weren't such self absorbed sluts i wouldn't have had to quit my job, lose my house and have most my possessions stolen when she walked out on me and my kid for a quick piece of ass. just because thats me ex, doesn't mean all women are that way. maybe you should try looking beyond your past. |
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" However, the problem is, for a man to be attracted to a woman, or to have a successful relationship with her, he doesn't want to compete with her. "
I appreciate your opinion. As a women I believe the only way to know what men want is to ask a man. Women, No need to agrue, just embrace the words and use them to your benefit. We want men to know what we want so they treat us how we want to be treated, the same goes for men. |
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Why do you feel you have to compete with a woman? If you are a couple, isn't our career suppose to make our lives better for both of us? My ex use to think of our life as a game...who could make the most money? Did it really matter? I thought it was, lets try to save and get ahead in life.
I think if a man worries about having to compete with his woman, then he isn't happy with himself. So I suggest you look deep inside and see what is missing in you!! Why do women have to give up their careers to make you feel more sufficient? How do you know that one day something might not happen to where we might have to be the sole supporter?? Don't knock our careers..they might come in handy one day!! |
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Let's get real, it may not be attractive to you but if I were you, I wouldn't speak for anyone but you and I surely wouldn't put myself in the same category as a real man. I am speaking for real men. Sorry to offend the folks in the John Mayer camp. I wish you well in a relationship with someone who tries to show that she doesn't need a man, or shows you how much better she is than you. |
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I think you are all being too hard on him. I think that the feminist movement made us lose alot. I like having a man who will take care of the manly stuff. I like having the door opened for me. I like being taken out to dinner and not having to pay half, lol. I embrace being and acting like a woman. All he is saying is that he doesnt want to date a man. Some of his views are questionable, from how he words it, but I totally see what he is saying. Maam, you rock! I guess I need someone to work on my wording. :) |
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My point was, you are speaking for YOURSELF only. Yes, there may be men who agree with you, but there are many who won't. It is YOUR opinion and it is an opinion. And in case you are not aware, there is a great difference between opinion and fact.
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"Maam, you rock! I think women in their 50's could be included in this group. But, it seems that women in their 50's might have been influenced by the culture of the 50's. Consequently, they would be more pre-disposed to thinking that they should not try to show up a man, in a relationship."
Actually I was to young in the fifties to be influenced by it. My influence comes from my life experiences which I am still having today... I love men and I truly believe that men and women compliment each other with their differences. We should all try to appreciate those differences and benefit from them. |
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It seems that you come across more "career women" these days. Women who are in their thirties and forties, with looks fading fast, that still don't quite understand what men want. For some reason, with all the intelligence and value this group gives to themselves, this miss a fundamental truth. Men are not attracted to women who try to compete with them. Men, for the most part, excepting for contentious objectors, peace-niks, and fans of John Mayer, tend to like women to be feminine, soft, sensitive, etc - qualities that men typically do not (except as above) possess. Why can't these women, take off the suit, stop watching Sports Center, and just be a girl? Wow, this thread is sure to help you find a date 
You seem to be VERY imtimidated by independent women who have a brain and are not afraid to say what's on their mind. You say men are not attracted to "career women" I have found that to be just the opposite. I wear business suits to work, make a good living, and I happen to love watching football with my sisters and my mother. I am also very feminine and love being a woman. I can spend the day fishing and then come home and get dressed to go to the ballet. As for our "Looks fading looks" I'll be 48 next month, I feel younger and I am damn happy and secure within myself. By the way...why is it you don't have a picture posted? |
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manly men? it's hard wired? dude where the hell are you getting this stuff? nothing says a man genetically has to win, thats called AN INFERIORITY COMPLEX. if you can't stand a women doing anything better then you, you better give up on life and just roll over and die. happens every day, no matter how good you are somebody is always better and it's a 50/50 shot that it could be a woman so get used to the idea. The results of almost all athletic competitions suggest that men almost always win.... Perhaps being beaten by a women, in a physical contest doesn't bother some men. And perhaps, her coming home every night talking about how she is more successful than you at work wouldn't bother some men... There's no inferiority complex here. It's just how men are wired. We don't want a women, who we are involved with sexually, to try to "one up" us. Some men may not be wired in a manly way, sorry to hear that. For them, I have two tickets to John Mayer. so you think that men who can accept a women who makes more money, ski better, swim better, or whatever are gay???? is that seriously it? first off john mayer is a complete idiot, and speaking of, you idolize this guy or something? i'm seriously starting to think it's not the competition with women you don't like but women in general. your awfully focused on this manly thing, and how much more men should be then women physically. ever had gay dreams? you go to the gym and look around at all the men a lot? maybe a little bi-curious? there is a huge issue here i know it, but i highly doubt it's where you say it is. |
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iF MEN werent such idiots then maybe we didnt have to get jobs and take full responsibilty for our kids......how about that OP???? now thats the kind of bs i'm talking about, yes lets all bash men because you got a dud. sorry lady most men are not idiots and you don't do all the raising of the kids ok? how bout i turn this right around huh? maybe if women weren't such self absorbed sluts i wouldn't have had to quit my job, lose my house and have most my possessions stolen when she walked out on me and my kid for a quick piece of ass. just because thats me ex, doesn't mean all women are that way. maybe you should try looking beyond your past. Sorry to hear that, sir. That's one of the other problems that men and women face. A man can make 70% of the income in a marriage, but after a divorce, walk away with 50%. Women can make 70% of in the income (though in lower percentages of married couples), but a man will be less likely to try to get the "his share" of the joint property. |
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"Maam, you rock! I think women in their 50's could be included in this group. But, it seems that women in their 50's might have been influenced by the culture of the 50's. Consequently, they would be more pre-disposed to thinking that they should not try to show up a man, in a relationship." Sorry all, I am still trying how to get the quote in my response. Maybe this is right? |
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"Maam, you rock! I think women in their 50's could be included in this group. But, it seems that women in their 50's might have been influenced by the culture of the 50's. Consequently, they would be more pre-disposed to thinking that they should not try to show up a man, in a relationship." Sorry all, I am still trying how to get the quote in my response. Maybe this is right? OK, now I get it. |
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