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we get to be prettier is good for me
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women can do whatever they want; you know as i always say:
"the 'weaker' sex is the stronger sex because of the 'stronger' sex's weakness for the 'weaker' sex  ther, i've put in my two cents
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me no mam im saying in my personal life it is a partnership. I have worked for and respected many women, most were the best Project Managers I have worked for, most of the men I have worked for are intimidated at my speed to resolve issues and my communication with customers as well as our corp managers, I have also dated a woman who made lots more then I did all that did not matter what mattered was her. Both women and men excel in the same areas. Again, the point is: A woman that tries to compete with a man, in a relationship (i.e. tries to show him up, or boast about her career, or he lack of need for a man) is unattractive to a man. Second, a woman that takes on manly traits, like watching sports centers, or trying to be "like a man" in her interests, is unattractive to men. |
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The point is this: A woman that tries to compete with a man, in a relationship (i.e. tries to show him up, or boast about her career, or he lack of need for a man) is unattractive to a man. Second, a woman that takes on manly traits, like watching sports centers, or trying to be "like a man" in her interests, is unattractive to men. Ok, enough of this "manly traits" garbage...who says watching sports is trying to be "like a man"? I grew up in a family where we all watched sports together. The men I know love the fact that I can talk sports with them and be able to know what I am talking about. At work during breaks we women sit together and discuss sports, the men join us and we all have a blast together. As for the "lack of needing a man in my life", I would love to meet someone and be in a relationship but if it doesn't happen I will be fine. I want to have someone in my life but I don't need someone in order to be happy with my life. Good luck to you in your search for what ever you are hoping to find in life. |
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Here is the truth 1.) "The bossman syndrome" Men do like to feel they are in charge in a relationship. I know this comes as a shock and goes against the grain of what many career women experience in the office, but at home, a man likes to feel in charge of the relationship. (Sorry, we're wired that way) 2.) We don't want someone to try to compete with us. We'd love to hear about your day, but we don't want to be compared to or looked down on. Many women with successful careers think less of men who haven't acheived the same level of success (and tend to compete against any man). In relationships, as in the office, these women still feel they need to prove something to a man. Truth sheesh! is this yours? What about the women that do work long hours to help provide for the family? We are still expected to come home and cook dinner for our family now how is that for a double standard. I do NOT feel the need to have to prove myself to anyone. I'm blessed to have the job I do, I earned my postion the hard way...putting my time in and doing a good job. Interesting, you say many successful women look down on men. My sisters are quite successful in their careers also and the men in our lives encourage and compliment us. I'm not sure if the point can be made any clearer... This discussion is NOT about who does the cooking. Some women are obsessed with 1950's thinking, and their radar goes off, if a man suggests that a woman not boast about her career, or lack of need for a man. The suggestion is that a career minded woman not try to compete with her partner. NOT that a woman should be in the kitchen, making babies... Regarding the compliments your sisters have received from their spouses, that makes sense, given they are not boasting about their career, or comparing their careers to their husbands on a nightly basis. A woman can be more sucessful than a man and make the relationship work, but the point is... A woman that tries to compete with a man, in a relationship (i.e. tries to show him up, or boast about her career, or he lack of need for a man) is unattractive to a man. Second, a woman that takes on manly traits, like watching sports centers, or trying to be "like a man" in her interests, is unattractive to men. |
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i have fashion and hairstyle makeover advice next
good topic carry on |
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italian_half, I don't see how one belittleing another has anything to do with gender. It's wrong no matter who does it. Whether it's in a relationship or a parent or at work from a coworker or an employer. I won't stand for it from anyone, male or female. This has nothing to do with competitveness or the ability to earn money. That's called being an a$$hole!  Please re-read my post, sir, on "be-littling", I shared your sentiments. |
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The point is this: A woman that tries to compete with a man, in a relationship (i.e. tries to show him up, or boast about her career, or he lack of need for a man) is unattractive to a man. Second, a woman that takes on manly traits, like watching sports centers, or trying to be "like a man" in her interests, is unattractive to men. Ok, enough of this "manly traits" garbage...who says watching sports is trying to be "like a man"? I grew up in a family where we all watched sports together. The men I know love the fact that I can talk sports with them and be able to know what I am talking about. At work during breaks we women sit together and discuss sports, the men join us and we all have a blast together. As for the "lack of needing a man in my life", I would love to meet someone and be in a relationship but if it doesn't happen I will be fine. I want to have someone in my life but I don't need someone in order to be happy with my life. Good luck to you in your search for what ever you are hoping to find in life. The male friends may enjoy a woman's knowledge of sports, but they definately don't want to get into a relationship with her. Who wants a woman that owns more cleats than they do? Women can certainly have a blast talking sports, drinking beer, and high fiving their guy pals, but the point is men don't want a beer chugging, sports center watching girl for long - unless she's hot. Then they might have sex during Monday Night Football and call it over. It's perfectly fine not to need anyone. That's probably a good quality to have, given the uncertainy of life. But, the point is, getting into a relationship with a man - if you are a career minded woman - means not competeting with the man. That doesn't mean you can't expect to be treated very well in return. (That goes without saying.) But in order for the relationship to have a decent chance of success, a career minded woman should not try to compete in the relationship. |
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You have mentioned "manly traits" umpty-ump times. I'm curious as to what you think are manly traits in a woman? Other than watching sports?
There are many positive qualities that can be looked at in either a positive or negative light.....depending on the interpretation, such as assertiveness, self-assuredness, confidence, resourcefulness, comfort in being one's self, enthusiasm for the job one does, etc..... |
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Well Italian, have you considered the possiblity that maybe your ex was a bull dyke who just didn't want to dissapoint her family and come out of the proverbial closet? Or perhaps you ex was transgender and just kept it from you? Maybe you were dating a once beautiful man whose looks began to fade while his interest in sports center peaked?........See, I have to wonder if maybe the problem isn't with the significant other, but rather the problem is you.....
 
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Well Italian, have you considered the possiblity that maybe your ex was a bull dyke who just didn't want to dissapoint her family and come out of the proverbial closet? Or perhaps you ex was transgender and just kept it from you? Maybe you were dating a once beautiful man whose looks began to fade while his interest in sports center peaked?........See, I have to wonder if maybe the problem isn't with the significant other, but rather the problem is you..... 
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I am confident in my professional life and personally like being the girl in the relationship. If he spends more time in the mirror than I do then there is a problem.
My father was the dominant "figure" in our household but we all knew Mom was the boss. |
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Well Italian, have you considered the possiblity that maybe your ex was a bull dyke who just didn't want to dissapoint her family and come out of the proverbial closet? Or perhaps you ex was transgender and just kept it from you? Maybe you were dating a once beautiful man whose looks began to fade while his interest in sports center peaked?........See, I have to wonder if maybe the problem isn't with the significant other, but rather the problem is you..... These kinds of comments are not contributing to the discussion and are offensive. |
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I am confident in my professional life and personally like being the girl in the relationship. If he spends more time in the mirror than I do then there is a problem. My father was the dominant "figure" in our household but we all knew Mom was the boss. You definately get it, Tulsa. |
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I am confident in my professional life and personally like being the girl in the relationship. If he spends more time in the mirror than I do then there is a problem. My father was the dominant "figure" in our household but we all knew Mom was the boss. You definately get it, Tulsa. Thanks!! Now if I can just find the masculine guy for the other half of this girly/manly relationship, I'll have it made!! |
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Looks fading?
So I may need glasses soon....BFD. Says a lot, for a blue box, in my opinion... |
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Amen, Jess!
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I am confident in my professional life and personally like being the girl in the relationship. If he spends more time in the mirror than I do then there is a problem. My father was the dominant "figure" in our household but we all knew Mom was the boss. You definately get it, Tulsa. Thanks!! Now if I can just find the masculine guy for the other half of this girly/manly relationship, I'll have it made!! I'm sure you will. You realize that men and women are different, have different needs, and are NOT equal in some ways. But, being able to adjust to the differences and sometimes doing things that are outside of our comfort zone, to please the other person, makes all the difference. |
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Looks fading? So I may need glasses soon....BFD. Says a lot, for a blue box, in my opinion... You might want to read the entire post. I've addressed the no pic question, Miss icon. "Looks" has nothing to do with your need for glasses. It's related to your lack of viable man options as YOU grow older, and MEN start to look for a younger version of you. |
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Looks fading? So I may need glasses soon....BFD. Says a lot, for a blue box, in my opinion... You might want to read the entire post. I've addressed the no pic question, Miss icon. "Looks" has nothing to do with your need for glasses. It's related to your lack of viable man options as YOU grow older, and MEN start to look for a younger version of you. That's MS Iconic to you. Pic? Sure... <----------------here you go.... And I care if men are chasing women their daughter's ages, why? See the difference is, I don't give a wet slap for men who create threads, with all this EXPERT knowledge, and this whole, 'superior' position.... cause truth be known, it is more than likely, the rejection you have recieved, from women, who don't want to play 'mummy' to a man, or, to play 'submissive doormat' either. I just love all these worldly EXPERTS.... makes me want to go out and find a younger version of me.
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