Topic: Hot Topic: Women competing with Men. Caution: Enter at your
AllSmilesInTulsa's photo
Sun 12/09/07 01:23 PM


I'm just wondering if women in their "50's" could be part of this topic. I love a strong decisive man that can make decisions that I admire. And I love being a soft, supportive partner who is a part of the decision making process in a relationship. I have a high powered position that requires me to make major decesion all day long, it is nice to have a partner that can take over the stesses of live.


Maam, you rock! I think women in their 50's could be included in this group. But, it seems that women in their 50's might have been influenced by the culture of the 50's. Consequently, they would be more pre-disposed to thinking that they should not try to show up a man, in a relationship.


Uhhhh,,, excuse me,,, I am rapidly approaching 51. When I was in high school we were required to take home economics. Somewhere in the 70's we became "liberated" and actually got to choose our destiny.

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Sun 12/09/07 01:28 PM
i think there's actually a trend in hip elite schools to bring back home economics so all the future to be singles, men included, know how to clean their underwear and hardboil an egg.

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Sun 12/09/07 01:34 PM

i think there's actually a trend in hip elite schools to bring back home economics so all the future to be singles, men included, know how to clean their underwear and hardboil an egg.


Their underware wouldn't get so soiled if they learned how to wipe right.laugh

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Sun 12/09/07 01:36 PM


That's one of the other problems that men and women face. A man can make 70% of the income in a marriage, but after a divorce, walk away with 50%.

Women can make 70% of in the income (though in lower percentages of married couples), but a man will be less likely to try to get the "his share" of the joint property.



Hog Wash! When I left my ex, I gave him everything including the house!

One thing about us women as we age it seems like more and more younger men want to take us out.



Sorry dear, you're one isolated case. Statistics show that men do not take their half, in the same percentages that women do.

This is part of a growing trend that erodes the desire of men to get married. Why give up half your assets?

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Sun 12/09/07 01:39 PM

this is crazy if a woman is better at something then me thats great. you sound a bit controlling to me, but hey thats me, I have seen some hot 40 and 50 year old women. And no im not gay before you try that one. Grow up bro you never know who you are missing out on.


You also missed the point, sir.

There's nothing wrong with a woman being better than a man at anything (sports, having a career, finances, etc).

The point is: It's not attractive to a man to be in a relationship with a woman who feels the need to show that she's better than him. It's also not attractive to men, when "career women" exhibit manly traits like watching Sports Center every night.


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Sun 12/09/07 01:43 PM
I have a solution for you. Find a woman that will have sex while watching Sports Center. Might be less threatening to you. noway

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Sun 12/09/07 01:45 PM
This thread is hilarious!laugh Beats the hell out of television! drinker

I'm not sure what this "manly man" crap is all about. I have no interest in sports, I can take care of all my own need like cooking, cleaning, sewing and whatever else comes along that you might be suggesting is women's work or feminine.
I honestly prefer a woman that has a job/career that she enjoys and excels at. I don't find that a threat in any way. I admire it! Some people are competitive in this way but I'm not.
If she was into watching sports, I'd have no problem with that, so long as it didn't soak up all of her free time. I'd rather be playing couch rugby than watching it.bigsmile :tongue:
I was under the impression that it was a team effort, not a competition.

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Sun 12/09/07 01:47 PM



Why do you feel you have to compete with a woman? If you are a couple, isn't our career suppose to make our lives better for both of us? My ex use to think of our life as a game...who could make the most money? Did it really matter? I thought it was, lets try to save and get ahead in life.
I think if a man worries about having to compete with his woman, then he isn't happy with himself. So I suggest you look deep inside and see what is missing in you!! Why do women have to give up their careers to make you feel more sufficient? How do you know that one day something might not happen to where we might have to be the sole supporter?? Don't knock our careers..they might come in handy one day!!




Maam, I think you missed the point. Sorry.

The point was not for women to give up their careers, wander back into the kitchen, and become baby making machines.

The point is for successful women to try not to compete with a man, in their relationship (i.e. to try not to show up a man's success, or rub it in his face that she makes more money than him). This is unattractive to men. Also, secondly, if a woman takes on masculine traits, men will find this unattractive as well.



I think your whole point is crazy!! You are afraid that a woman will do better then a man. You are afraid that she might like sports...so what?? Does it mean that we become men if we watch football? Please!!! Are you just afraid that a woman might actually know a little bit more then you will?? It sounds like to me that you are not to sure about yourself!!
I think you need to grow some!! Get some confidence, I always hated when a man didn't have confidence in themselves..that is so unattracive!!!
Plus, just because we hit the age of 40~~that doesn't mean we stop dressing up and looking good. In fact, theres times that we look mighty fine. Maybe you need to venture out more!!!:wink:


Let's try to keep the comments constructive, and avoid personal attacks.

You keep missing the point dear, but I will repeat it...

The point is NOT about a woman doing anything better than a man. We all recognize that some women have achieved, or accomplished, more than some men. The point is also NOT about fear. This is a huge point that some women miss. Men are not fearful of women. We are just hard wired to be unattracted to a woman that tries to compete with us. We may ignore the competetive nature of a competetive woman, to get her into bed. But for something long lasting, we need a woman to not try to compete with us.

The point is that it is unattractive to a man, for a woman to try to show up the man she is trying to date, or brag about her success, or try to prove that she is just as good as a man. It is also unattractive to a man, for a woman to show off her manly traits.

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Sun 12/09/07 01:49 PM




Why do you feel you have to compete with a woman? If you are a couple, isn't our career suppose to make our lives better for both of us? My ex use to think of our life as a game...who could make the most money? Did it really matter? I thought it was, lets try to save and get ahead in life.
I think if a man worries about having to compete with his woman, then he isn't happy with himself. So I suggest you look deep inside and see what is missing in you!! Why do women have to give up their careers to make you feel more sufficient? How do you know that one day something might not happen to where we might have to be the sole supporter?? Don't knock our careers..they might come in handy one day!!




Maam, I think you missed the point. Sorry.

The point was not for women to give up their careers, wander back into the kitchen, and become baby making machines.

The point is for successful women to try not to compete with a man, in their relationship (i.e. to try not to show up a man's success, or rub it in his face that she makes more money than him). This is unattractive to men. Also, secondly, if a woman takes on masculine traits, men will find this unattractive as well.



I think your whole point is crazy!! You are afraid that a woman will do better then a man. You are afraid that she might like sports...so what?? Does it mean that we become men if we watch football? Please!!! Are you just afraid that a woman might actually know a little bit more then you will?? It sounds like to me that you are not to sure about yourself!!
I think you need to grow some!! Get some confidence, I always hated when a man didn't have confidence in themselves..that is so unattracive!!!
Plus, just because we hit the age of 40~~that doesn't mean we stop dressing up and looking good. In fact, theres times that we look mighty fine. Maybe you need to venture out more!!!:wink:


Let's try to keep the comments constructive, and avoid personal attacks.

You keep missing the point dear, but I will repeat it...

The point is NOT about a woman doing anything better than a man. We all recognize that some women have achieved, or accomplished, more than some men. The point is also NOT about fear. This is a huge point that some women miss. Men are not fearful of women. We are just hard wired to be unattracted to a woman that tries to compete with us. We may ignore the competetive nature of a competetive woman, to get her into bed. But for something long lasting, we need a woman to not try to compete with us.

The point is that it is unattractive to a man, for a woman to try to show up the man she is trying to date, or brag about her success, or try to prove that she is just as good as a man. It is also unattractive to a man, for a woman to show off her manly traits.



And it's unattractive for a man to try and prove he's better then a woman.

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Sun 12/09/07 01:50 PM
I have heard there is a secret society of underground women who DEAL with THESE ISSUE'S.....

THEY will STOP at NOTHING to get back at ALL MEN who oppose there thoughts and gains....THEY will FIND YOU, and ,,,,enough said..






They call them selves,,,,,THE GIRLSCOUTS of AMERICA.....LOL
Their VERY competitive,,,,,lol,,,,lolbigsmile

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Sun 12/09/07 01:50 PM
well brother thats what makes us all human being different. If a woman likes sports cool that is her thing I would not think less of her, If she makes more money then me and tells me that well that gives me a reason to work harder, if she gets older I loved her for more than her looks i loved her for her. You can try to find the woman of your dreams the one who cooks cleans and follows your every demand but how long until that gets boring, me i want a woman who knows who she is not who i want or think she should be, one who loves me who i can talk to who i can experaince new things with and her with me. So good luck on your search my friend me I will look at what is before me and trust my heart and my fate.

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Sun 12/09/07 01:50 PM

if a woman takes on manly traits i'd say she's probably gonna be playing for the other team anyway, but thats not true either. but not all men think the same things are attractive. personally i can't stand short hair on a woman. that doesn't mean she's trying to compete or taking on manly traits or is any less attractive to other men. not my taste but thats just it, we all think different things are attractive and can't generalize what MEN see as attractive in women just cuz we're men. i'm sure lots of men would rile in a woman who could play basketball just as well as them and hell maybe thats a great date for them, more power to them. let it be what it is.


Some good points here.

I would add that we all do have our personal preferences, hair length, eye color, etc.

However, most men, deep down inside, are driven by a pre-historic desire to be the provider. That inane nature causes us to be unattracted to women who try to compete with us, or exhibit traits that are like other men.

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Sun 12/09/07 01:54 PM

personally I dont believe in taking from my partner or spouse if we split up, I want them to have the things that made them comfortable and happy, I dont care for someone becuse of money I care from my heart. I allways bounce back and for me personally I allways seem to land on my feet so why worry about who gets what if it does not work out, I cowboy up take what I need to start over and my bikes and tools and re-build.


Good thoughts.

How would you feel if you were divorced more than once, and lost half each time? You could be paying so much alimony that you were just above poverty, while your ex's were enjoying the bulk of your salary.

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Sun 12/09/07 01:54 PM

I have heard there is a secret society of underground women who DEAL with THESE ISSUE'S.....

THEY will STOP at NOTHING to get back at ALL MEN who oppose there thoughts and gains....THEY will FIND YOU, and ,,,,enough said..






They call them selves,,,,,THE GIRLSCOUTS of AMERICA.....LOL
Their VERY competitive,,,,,lol,,,,lolbigsmile


laugh laugh laugh laugh flowerforyou

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Sun 12/09/07 01:58 PM
Sorry dear, you're one isolated case. Statistics show that men do not take their half, in the same percentages that women do.

This is part of a growing trend that erodes the desire of men to get married. Why give up half your assets?


I walked away from the "assets" because they were just possesions, and could be replaced. My sister's ex stole her life savings just before they split up. It does happen more than people like to admit.

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Sun 12/09/07 02:04 PM





Maam, I think you missed the point. Sorry.

The point was not for women to give up their careers, wander back into the kitchen, and become baby making machines.

The point is for successful women to try not to compete with a man, in their relationship (i.e. to try not to show up a man's success, or rub it in his face that she makes more money than him). This is unattractive to men. Also, secondly, if a woman takes on masculine traits, men will find this unattractive as well.

Ladies...When we get home from a long day at work. He wants us to wait on him...Leave the office behind, the important decisions you made over the course of the day, and serve him up some food...and never let him forget he's bossman....explode


Most likely this is facitious, but this is some truth to this.

Here are the exceptions:

1.) We don't need someone to cook for us. (that concept has gone the way of the dinosaur)

Here is the truth

1.) "The bossman syndrome" Men do like to feel they are in charge in a relationship. I know this comes as a shock and goes against the grain of what many career women experience in the office, but at home, a man likes to feel in charge of the relationship. (Sorry, we're wired that way)
2.) We don't want someone to try to compete with us. We'd love to hear about your day, but we don't want to be compared to or looked down on. Many women with successful careers think less of men who haven't acheived the same level of success (and tend to compete against any man). In relationships, as in the office, these women still feel they need to prove something to a man.

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Sun 12/09/07 02:08 PM
bro i dont know where yo get your facts maybe im just the strange one here, I think the relationship is a prtnership. I dont need to prove anything so if my mate spouse girlfriend other wants to come home and tell me of her accomplishments that is good she is comfortable enough to tell me. Becuse when im on that stage and i hear that applause I want to feel comfortable enough to tell her, my advice Cowboy Up

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Sun 12/09/07 02:08 PM

these are hostile and insecure and confused times i suggest. we hate ourselves. it's not ok to discuss gender or differenceslaugh or hint they exist



I'm not sure if we hate ourselves, but the lines between gender roles have definitely become confused, and it's not necesarily a good thing. Gender roles exist in nature. The male of the species has a certain role, as does the female. With more women taking on roles that are traditionally male, they can, by extention take on more male characteristics and become more competitve with men. These male characteristics are generally unattractive to men.


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Sun 12/09/07 02:11 PM
I don't buy your "bossman" theory. Some men may feel that way but not all are "wired that way".
I like the idea of an "equal" partner much better.bigsmile

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Sun 12/09/07 02:11 PM
well bro before you have women thinking you speak for all men how about in my opinion or i believe or my thoughts, noticed you are not responding to my posts, Guess you may just be trying to get attention from the ladies so good luck to ya.