Cowboy, concerning the virgin birth and Immaculate Conception.

Okay hypothetically, I'm 62 years old. If I discovered that I was pregnant and I have not been with a man for ten years, and I told anyone that I was pregnant how many people do you think would believe me?

First, it would be a miracle for me to be pregnant even if I had been having sex with men because I have already gone through the change.

Second it would be a second miracle for me to be pregnant because I have not had sexual intercourse with anyone.

So if I went to the Pope and told him I must be pregnant by God, he would call me a fraud because he KNOWS BETTER. He knows that no woman was ever impregnated by God and the story of a "virgin birth" is an ancient myth that has been told over and over long before they adopted it for Christianity.

It never happened dude.

Why do you think people would not believe you? And even if they didn't, that would just show the lacking of faith they had. What does it really matter if other's believed you or not?

Here are the reasons I believe that people would not believe me:

1. If I were them, I would not believe it either.

2, A devout Christian would call it heresy. The Immaculate Conception has already happened according to what they believe. Christ is not coming back via being born again, he is supposed to come back via a cloud in the sky.

3. The Pope would not believe me because he knows that the immaculate conception story is a myth.


The only people who "might" believe me would be the religious Jews who are still waiting for their messiah and who believe that Jesus was not the messiah.

It was an example of how people who claim to believe something like that happened 2000 years ago would never actually believe something like that was really possible. I think they are kidding themselves when they claim to believe that on faith. I think they lie.

Now if I told a small child of 5 that I was pregnant by God, I might have a believer. There are naive people who will believe whatever you tell them.

2. True.
3. Not true, the pope believes Jesus was born of the virgin Marry.

And no, the second coming of Jesus will not be through a birth. He will come down from Heaven to judge the Earth. That has nothing to do with God impregnating you though. You didn't specify on if this baby you were impregnated with was Jesus. You merely said that God impregnated you, so therefore could have been another being besides Jesus.

And lastly, no the Christian community wouldn't believe, because it was no prophesied. The birth of Jesus was prophesied many years before happening.

it's not the thoughts that makes the hypochondria sick...it's the fact that they suffer from hypochondriasis,

JennieBean...using an example of mental illiness is perhaps not the best way to prove your point about the consequences of thought

but anyway..do you have any other answers as to what are the consequences of having a thought or thoughts

Why would one lie about believing in something they don't believe?

MsHarmony ...Jesus said to "OBEY" his teachings and those that do not will be tossed in the fire ....that verse sure implies "blindly" and leading to fire

you have a habit of running to the dictionary instead of the bible...run there and look up the word "obey"

The lie is a lie to themselves. They think they believe, but when you bring that situation into the present and it is no longer a 2000 year old myth, they will not believe.

If a woman can become pregnant by God or by immaculate conception, it would also be happening on a regular basis today.

I don't consider hypochondria to be insanity or mental illness. I'm not even sure what the true definition of mental illness is.

But here is a good example of how you thoughts have consequences.

If you think you are going to fail, you will not even try anything. Consequences, you will not succeed to get anything done.


If you think depressing thoughts you are depressed. No one wants to be around a depressing person, so the consequences are that you have no friends.

In fact I could list millions of examples where your thoughts have consequences. Everything you do and say begins with thoughts. Everything you see and learn are the results of thoughts.

Your thoughts determine your attitude, your attitude determines you actions etc... Your thoughts put forth certain vibrations that attract like things, good or bad. You thought determine your mood and your energy.

Cowboy...you and your father are of the same gender and if he place his holy spirit into you a Man like he place himself into Mary...then that would be homosexual sex

a person or entity that place "himself" inside a host for the purpose of reproduction is called sex

JennieBean...unfortunely once again the medical community overrules your consideration and consider hyprochondrisis as a mental illness



don't you think that having thoughts to make yourself sick qualify as being one



nope...remember you claim that a decision has to be made first ..if you make a decision to fail then that is taking an action



how would someone know that you were depressed unless you were acting depress....acting depress is an action



your thoughts are just thoughts...but the moment you attempt to turn a thought into a reality...it's no longer a thought...it becomes an action and that takes "Will"

Funches

No, thoughts are things. There are consequences for every tiny thought you think.

And you don't have to tell me when the scientific or medical community disagrees with that I think or "overrules" what I say.

It only "overrules" it if you would rather believe them than me. But if you want to believe them, I can't help that. I tell you what I and I alone think. I don't care what community disagrees or 'overrules.' me.

If you want to know what the medical community or the scientific community thinks then go ask them. If you don't care what I think then I won't tell you.

Only if placing himself inside of me involved a penis or some instrument used for sexual purposes. The father is in me, I invited him in a long time ago.

Once again, Sex = a man placing his penis inside of a woman or another man, and or fondling of the sexual organs. Or a woman fondling the sexual organs of another woman. And so forth, in one way or other it would involve two people fondling the sexual organs of another.

There would be none of this nor was there any of this when Marry was impregnated with Jesus.

now now JennieBean no need to have a conniption fit, science generally try to lean towards an open mind, someone trying to suggest that their opinion because of their religious/spiritual beliefs are perhaps truth. when there is scientific fact that it isn't perhaps leans towards a close mind,

I will show how your beliefs leans towards a close mind by taking two of your statements and for the sake of argument regard each as being truth and scientific fact

FOR EXAMPLE:
1) you claim that thoughts are things
2)you claim that robots aren't sentient and have no soul...

THE QUESTION:
if a robot had those "thought things"....would the robot therefore be sentient and have a soul

Cowboy....you are a perfect example as to why they need to teach biology in sunday school....because you would have learn that sex and reproduction can occur without having to stick a tallywhacker into a forbidden fruit ..

speaking of fruit...do you also believe that fruit trees uproot in order to find another fruit tree to stick a tallywhacker in ....it is said that a vagina is the forbidden fruit but please tell me that you don't believe that fruit trees have a big old vaginas between it's tree bark

so please enough of that kiddy talk that the only form of sex is a man sticking his penis in a vagina ...

sex is reproduction ....and since you claim that you a Man was willing to becomes like woman so that your father could place himself into you for reproduction purposes....then that is homosexual sex

but anyway you claimed that you were willing to do anything for Jesus .....so if Jesus asked you to have homosexual sex...would you not do it?

please don't use the excuse of what Jesus won't ask you....since you claim that Jesus is God then God have asked many of his creations to violate his commandments and laws

so again Cowboy.....would you have homosexual sex if Jesus asked you

no, jesus did not say that, Funches interpreted/paraprased what JEsus said INTO That,,,,

obey: to follow the commands or guidance of
2: to conform to or comply wit


...nothing about being 'blind', nothing that excludes reasoning or logic in the choice to follow or conform or comply,,,

oversimplifying it doesnt make it true

sex is not reproduction, it is a MEANS of reproduction as not everyone who engages in SEX Will reproduce


In vitro fertilization is a way of reproduction that does not require 'sex'

so the two are not mutually inclusive

MsHarmony...if you as a follower are questioning about following God blindly...is that an indication that you yourself personally wouldn't

befor you answer that question allow me to place your Free Will under "duress" by reminding you of the story of Adam and Eve

so MsHarmony....

1)would you follow God blindly
2)should we change the title of the biblical story from Adam and Eve to Adam and MsHarmony