Okay, I'll play.

I will predict something that will happen in the news this month by drawing five tarot cards.

We will see what transpires.

Here goes:

The cards drawn are: Death, The Dark Magician, Three of Cups, Five of wands, and the Ten of Pentacles.




1. DEATH CARD: Position: THE underlying CAUSE. Death means a major development of some kind of MAJOR PERMANENT change.

2.DARK MAGICIAN: Position: THE PRESENT. The dark magician generally represents a person or persons who is very angry or evil and is out to do harmful or evil things.

3. THREE OF CUPS: Position: WHAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW. It can represent the date and it means a day when family or people get together to celebrate or it could be a holiday.

4. FIVE OF WANDS: Position: ADVICE OR MORE INFORMATION. The five of wands represents someone having a bad day and it also represents fierce competition.

5. TEN OF PENTACLES: Position: OUTCOME OR PURPOSE: This card represents money and family, perhaps an inheritance. It is about money, power, wealth and family.

The prediction:

(I'm going to be very precise here so everyone can laugh and make fun of me when nothing I say here happens.)

The dates to look at will be from September 5th to September 11th.

1. The Death card is a major event, so is the Dark Magician. This points to a major celebration, where people are gathering.

Since we are drawing for THIS MONTH (September) that pins the date of this event down to the only major holiday in September. LABOR DAY, September 5th.

Or it is a day when people are gathering to celebrate some major event or thing. It could be September 11th.

>>The official New York City observance of the at the World Trade Center site on the morning of Sunday, September 11th, 2011.

That places the event in New York.

Who is behind it? Evil people or an evil person. (Dark Magician.)

When will it happen? --->> My guess is September 11, 2011 in New York city or September 5th on Governor's Island where the competition of the 2nd Annual World Trade Center Run to Remember (WTCRTR) will take place starting on September 4, 2011 on Governors Island.

That's the best guess / prediction I can make from this batch of cards for when and where. The final card, the Ten of Pentacles represents a powerful family with money. I'm not sure what this means.

I will do another reading for more information.

artificial insemination would imply that God place something in Mary that was not of himself ...since some Christians claim that the Holy Spirit is a Godhead, then they should also accept that the Holy Spirit place himself inside Mary filled her up and the result was pregnancy....sure sounds like sex

but on the matter of rape, since God forced his Will upon Mary is why it would fall into the rape category

Prophetic news from Jeanniebean:

In the news this coming week:
Three of Pentacles.

In the news this coming week you will see a lot of talk about the economy, small business, and employment.

Nope, I would do anything and everything God asked and or told me to do. Not out of fear, out of love and willing to be obedient.

I guess your idea of God is one who loves obedient slaves, willing to do anything asked of them without question or hesitation.

That's just scary.

I would think God wants us to think for ourselves, make our own choices etc.

That is why we have free will and a mind to think.

If that is the case, then God would not want obedient slaves.

Therefore, the mindless obedient slaves will probably all go to hell.

Why would God want or need mindless obedient slaves? Slaves cannot think for themselves and they cannot take care of themselves and would simply be a burden.


In order for the universe to continue to expand it needs thinking stuff and thinking centers. Entities who can think and create things. Not mindless obedient slaves who can't think or take care of themselves. The thinkers are the creators.

The mindless slaves are things like rocks and bacteria and the elements and all the stuff used to make things with. I suppose they are needed in some capacity.

Not everyone can be sentient I guess.

I think there is a difference between not thinking for oneself and being obedient. Unless someone is going to instruct us every second, than we have to be able to think for ourself but we can do that AS WELL As respect the authority and trust the love of one who instructs us.

If you feel someone is instructing you and you think it is good advice by all means, be as obedient as you choose.

I think thats the point. We choose daily to absorb and trust the 'knowledge' or instruction of other people. God would be just as worthy of such a choice.

Well I don't speak of "God" as a person who walks around among humans "instructing" them or talking to them.

As a matter of truth, I get annoyed when people talk about God as if God were a person who judges, instructs, punishes and talks to people. It's a deceiving and delusional tactic and I don't buy into those kinds of delusions.

I dont perceive God as a person either, but its the closest type of reference I can use when speaking about God. If persons are due trust and respect, the God who created me is due the same,,,IMHO

I dont believe he just created us for the heck and left us to run amok, but that he did create us with certain purpose beyond our own self fulfillment,,, that he disciplines as a guidance tool just like parents do, that he also supports, loves, and encourages us like parents do

I Believe he does it all out of love and a desire to see us have what he knows is BEST(because he designed it), like our parents want whats best

I believe he is Just and gives guidance, support, and discipline to make us better(much like my parents or elders have)

except I think Gods knowledge to exceed that of my elders or anyone else far more than can even be explained because I believe him to have created me and whatever purpose/path/opportunity he wished for me

Most people do. They call "God" "he" and they call God "the father." That is humanizing the prime source a bit I would say.

People say things like: "God said this or that..." and they talk about God and Jesus as if these were real human beings walking around among us on this physical earth.

The claim to "love God." And yet they don't love their fellow man. That is not loving God.

I think , as a christian, this type of value comes from how Jesus himself spoke about his FATHER. Historically speaking, the FATHER was first and everything else was named in relation to him ,not the other way around.

So if he created the male first, possibly it was called male because it was first and created after HIM,,,there is logical application which makes the HE and FATHER references completely understandable.

no you do it out of Fear unless of course you haven't learned anything from the story of Adam and Eve.....this is why as a Christian it is forbidden for you to even utter that you would defy a command from God...

come on say that you as a Christian have Free Will and if you see fit,would defy a direct command from God ...

if God asked you to kill/murder your parents or children you as a Christian must do it...

once you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior you in turn give up any delusion of "Free Will" or you're simply not a Christian

and this is why it is sexual abuse for God to command favors from Earth Women by placing his Holy Spirit into them ...

Wanna start first off with a lol. We're not slaves, we're CHILDREN or god. Do parents not want their children to be obedient to them? Do parents not want their children to listen?



We do think for ourselves, we do make our own choices. If we didn't, their wouldn't be much of a need for a judgement now would their be? Again, we do make our own choices, and that's what we will be judged on.



He doesn't.

First off, God would never ask that. Secondly no accepting Jesus as lord and saviour doesn't give up any free will. It is through free will I would accept him. I still can act as I wish, I will be judged on how I act and or behave. I WILLINGLY choose to obey my lord, not out of force, not out of fear, but out of love and WILLINGNESS.

since you claim that Jesus is God ...didn't Jesus ask Abraham to kill his son Isaac ....but let's move beyond what "God would never ask" because there are many examples in the bible of Jesus asking people to kill



ok if you say so but then again you already admitted that you were willing to get pregnant by your Father and carry his child if he commanded you to do so ....

which mean that you as a Man would have no problems becoming like woman for another Man not out of fear but out of Free WIll willingness...so Cowboy you're probably of a Christian faith that accept gay marriages

fallacious argument

if we dont have COMPLETE FREEDOM WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE< we dont have freedom

this would mean we are not free citizens, because we must obey laws or suffer legal consequences

this would mean we have no freedom , regardless of our faith, if we choose to gauge decisions on their potential outcome

the mere existence of an unfavorable outcome does not negate that there is choice or freedom of choice,,,

'IF A , then B' does not mean one had no freedom of choice, it just means they had no choice that wouldnt have a consequence(either favorable or unfavorable)

Cowboy said:

The ultimate goal of parents is to raise their children to be adults who make their own decisions. Not simply to train them to be obedient. For how long or at what age does a parent expect her child to begin thinking and making choices? For how long do you think a parent should demand unquestioning obedience from their children?

Children grow up.

With that, since most religions believe that the end of the world is near and that Jesus is coming back soon to pass judgement on people, I would think that at this point in the history of the world and mankind, that humans should be grown ups by now. No longer children.

We are to be judged by our choices as adults, not as children. Even in our society children are not usually judged or punished as adults in adult courts. Children are not sentenced to life in prison even if they kill someone.

But you Cowboy are claiming that we are "children" of God and that we will be judged by our choices and if those choices are not the right ones, then we will not simply go to prison for one life sentence, but we will be cast into the fire or put to death by God if we are judged not worthy.

That does not sound like a fitting punishment for "children" to me.

So I am going to assume that I am not a "child" of God anymore. I am a spiritual adult who knows right from wrong and who understands the law of cause and effect and who takes full responsibility for my own personal choices.

But if I commit to blind obedience to a God I have never seen under threat of eternal damnation or under a promise of "eternal life" or a heaven that I have never seen, that is just foolish.



No we are not "judged" by any sentient being for our choices.

Our choices will reap their just reward through the laws in place in this world that some call the law of Karma or the Law of cause and effect, or the law of attraction, etc.

That is what the laws are for. They are in place so that people can learn what the consequences of their choices and actions are first hand.

There are even consequences for the thoughts you think. These consequences are automatic and in place so that no sentient being or beings have to follow every person around and judge.

God has better things to do.

Every time you reduce the God of your religion to having the ineptitude of mortal human parents you do your own religion a huge disservice.

To begin with taking your analogy seriously, the first thing I would do is totally reject the Hebrew Biblical accounts of God if I were going to imagine that God is a responsible parent.

There would be absolutely nothing responsible, or wise, for the creator of humanity to place his message to his children in the hands of the ignorant Hebrews if he truly wanted anyone to listen to what he has to say and give these stories any respect.

This would be analogous to a mortal human parent running out and handing the Taliban the instructions they would like to have told to their children, and then leaving it up to their children to actually believe that this ignorant Taliban were actually entrusted by their parents to teach them good moral values.



The ancient Hebrews were highly male-chauvinistic, and they claim that God supported their male-chauvinistic views and behaviors. They were also judging and stoning other people to death in the name of God. They were also killing heathens in the name of God. In fact, they even crucified Jesus for blaspheme in OBEDIENCE to the directives of this very God.

Then, at that point, the very people to whom this God has originally entrusted the task of teaching his children, rejected Jesus as his son, or as any form of messiah. It was actually other people who became the "Christians" and blatantly violated the original God's supreme commandment that no other gods should be placed before him.

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So this would be like the Taliban coming to you and proclaiming that you parents left them with the task of teaching you your moral values, and then later some other people came along and said, "No. That has all changed now and this other guy named Jesus is now sent by your parents to teach you good morals".

Not only would this be utterly confusing and grossly mixed messages, but it would also be highly irresponsible and totally unwise and inept behavior of the parent himself.

So, you're whole analogy of God being a parent who has any serious interest in anyone actually 'listening' to him is truly absurd.

That theme simply cannot be supported in any meaningful way based on the history of the religion that you support as the supposed "Word of God".

So all you've done by suggesting that the God of your religion is like a parent is to reduce your God into a truly inept and untrustworthy parent.

That's exactly right too. So the analogy doesn't even fit in the first place.

A God who demands unquestioned obedience would not be a 'parent' at all, it would be nothing more than a slave taskmaster.

So the correct analogy for the Biblical God would be a taskmaster, not a parent analogy.