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Topic: The Prophecy
Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 09/06/11 09:25 PM
You just want to argue. I'm telling you what I believe that statement obviously means.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 09/06/11 09:28 PM
You just want to argue. I'm telling you what I believe that statement obviously means. Not arguing. Only stating my view on it... this is a DISCUSSION forum, for DISCUSSING. Sorry for caps, just thought I'd emphasise on it, don't like being accused of arguing when I didn't make one argumentative statement.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 09/06/11 09:36 PM
You just want to argue. I'm telling you what I believe that statement obviously means. Not arguing. Only stating my view on it... this is a DISCUSSION forum, for DISCUSSING. Sorry for caps, just thought I'd emphasise on it, don't like being accused of arguing when I didn't make one argumentative statement. Fine then, I just think you are wrong then.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 09/06/11 09:46 PM
You just want to argue. I'm telling you what I believe that statement obviously means. Not arguing. Only stating my view on it... this is a DISCUSSION forum, for DISCUSSING. Sorry for caps, just thought I'd emphasise on it, don't like being accused of arguing when I didn't make one argumentative statement. Fine then, I just think you are wrong then. Ok I'll explain more deeply in how I take the verse. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Be fruitful - Do good things, be loving to one another, ect. Multiply - Have children Replenish the Earth - Fill the Earth Subdue it - Use it at our needs, eg., can cut trees down to build houses, ect. Have dominion over the animals - Can use them in our needs, food, pets, work animals, ect.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 09/06/11 10:09 PM
Literally to be fruitful means to produce fruit. ---and is conducive to an abundant yield. It does not mean "Do good things, be loving to one another, ect." It is an analogy that represents baring fruit or being fertile. Fertility is reproduction. So, your understanding is incorrect.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Tue 09/06/11 11:13 PM
I never thought it made sense to say 'multiply and multiply' and I never took the translation to refer to performing mathematical functsion..lol so my own conclusion was that being 'fruitful' was the same as being productive and multiplying was increasing our numbers,,,,

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Tue 09/06/11 11:45 PM
Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be FRUITFUL, and MULTIPLY, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Genesis 8:17 Bring out every kind of living creature that is with you--the birds, the animals, and all the creatures that move along the ground--so they can MULTIPLY on the earth and be FRUITFUL and increase in number upon it." Genesis 9:1 Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be FRUITFUL and INCREASE IN NUMBER and FILL the earth. Genesis 9:7 As for you, be FRUITFUL and increase in number; MULTIPLY on the earth and increase upon it." Leviticus 26:9 "'I will look on you with favor and make you FRUITFUL and INCREASE your numbers, and I will keep my covenant with you. ........... FRUITFUL means to have children(same meaning applies to all the scriptures above) MULTIPLY means just that...to multiply(same meaning applies to all scriptures above) Cowboy,I think you might have "BEARING FRUIT" mixed up With "BEING FRUITFUL" .

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Tue 09/06/11 11:55 PM Edited by msharmony on Tue 09/06/11 11:57 PM
I dont agree that such a clean distinction can be made. There are many passages that refer to fruitful in a non sexual way. This passage of be fruitful and multiply would logically be talking about TWO SEPERATE things, or the and would be unnecessary. Colossians 1:10 King James Version (KJV) 10That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God; trees are known by their fruit, as christians we are to be fruitful, which we can do in many ways, from many different trees tree of righteousness, tree of faith, etc,,,, ..I am no expert, but that is how those words speak to me,,,

CeriseRose Joined Mon 08/02/10 Posts: 6220	Wed 09/07/11 02:25 AM Edited by CeriseRose on Wed 09/07/11 02:30 AM
I dont agree that such a clean distinction can be made. There are many passages that refer to fruitful in a non sexual way. This passage of be fruitful and multiply would logically be talking about TWO SEPERATE things, or the and would be unnecessary. Colossians 1:10 King James Version (KJV) 10That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God; trees are known by their fruit, as christians we are to be fruitful, which we can do in many ways, from many different trees tree of righteousness, tree of faith, etc,,,, ..I am no expert, but that is how those words speak to me,,, Well said, msharmony! May the Lord God Almighty continue to bless you with His nuggets of wisdom!

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 09/07/11 05:32 AM
What are you talking about? Doesn't matter if there are other methods of having sex, sex is sacred between a married WOMAN and MAN. Cowboy...since God told both Man and the animals to be fruitful and multiply this is why sex is not sacred .... What purpose does homosexual sex present? What does one gain from homosexuality? No reproduction occurs from it, it potentially can be life threatening with many diseases attached to that form of sex. Cowboy..the same could be said about any type of sex ...but that wasn't the point if Jesus commanded you to have homosexual sex ..would you not do as your Lord and Master command of you

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 09/07/11 05:45 AM
still falsely assigning definitions... SEX is not a biblical term, it is a word we use in the english language to describe an ACTIVITY involving use of the body for SEXUAL GRATIFICATION being fruitful only means reproducing, reproducing doesnt require SEX for every species,,,, reproduction that occurs without sex is called ASEXUAL several species are capable of such ASEXUAL reproduction,,,IM sure their creator would be too,,,, MsHarmony... A-sexual B-Sexual C-sexual or Whatever-sexual all the above describes the method of sex that was used to full-fill God's command to be Fruitful and Mutilply.... God didn't use Asexual Reproduction because the bible claim that he went inside Mary to reproduce....this is the same method that human use which is why no matter how you try to spin it God had sex with Mary .....God most likely used the Missionary Position

mykesorrel Joined Fri 07/15/11 Posts: 177	Wed 09/07/11 05:51 AM Edited by mykesorrel on Wed 09/07/11 05:54 AM
.....God most likely used the Missionary Position I don't care what nobody say, God of the Bible is a G. Not only did he take Joseph shorty, he smashed before he smashed and she was a virgin. What female get to say she cheated on her man with God, if i was Mary i would have said the same thing too, Joseph probably would have beat that a**.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 09/07/11 06:26 AM
still falsely assigning definitions... SEX is not a biblical term, it is a word we use in the english language to describe an ACTIVITY involving use of the body for SEXUAL GRATIFICATION being fruitful only means reproducing, reproducing doesnt require SEX for every species,,,, reproduction that occurs without sex is called ASEXUAL several species are capable of such ASEXUAL reproduction,,,IM sure their creator would be too,,,, MsHarmony... A-sexual B-Sexual C-sexual or Whatever-sexual all the above describes the method of sex that was used to full-fill God's command to be Fruitful and Mutilply.... God didn't use Asexual Reproduction because the bible claim that he went inside Mary to reproduce....this is the same method that human use which is why no matter how you try to spin it God had sex with Mary .....God most likely used the Missionary Position the bible doesnt say God went inside Mary,, but I can see where some peoples minds will remain,,, so continue the fantasizing,,,,

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 09/07/11 07:50 AM
Asking Questions to LEARN is One thing........ Asking FOOLISH questions to just "get one's goat" ,is Another thing entirely. never let anyone get your goat..it's best to keep one's goat for fresh milk and cheese spread

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 09/07/11 08:15 AM
no , Blind faith is still a pointless human term faith can and does involve logic and choice as much as any other decision does I would have trusted in God, thinking logically, before trusting some animal slithering in the ground who had created NOTHING and provided me NOTHING so far,, Id have trusted in Gods words and instructions to avoid death MsHarmony ...again that's the same rational that Adam and Eve would have used...if you as a follower are not willing to follow the commands of God blindly then you have made the choice to willingly place yourself into the same realm that Adam and Eve were in that is the point that the story was trying to get across.... follow blindly or place yourself into a position to cause the fall of Man pick one MsHarmony

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 09/07/11 08:27 AM
If being fruitful pertained solely to procreation, why would it the procreation statement have to be made twice in one sentence? And or why would it be? God said to be fruitful AND multiply in the Earth. Two separate instructions. Genesis 1:28 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. if God gave the command to be fruitful and multiply to both animals and Man then the term "fruitful" has to be an inherent command of "lust"

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 09/07/11 09:10 AM
still falsely assigning definitions... SEX is not a biblical term, it is a word we use in the english language to describe an ACTIVITY involving use of the body for SEXUAL GRATIFICATION being fruitful only means reproducing, reproducing doesnt require SEX for every species,,,, reproduction that occurs without sex is called ASEXUAL several species are capable of such ASEXUAL reproduction,,,IM sure their creator would be too,,,, MsHarmony... A-sexual B-Sexual C-sexual or Whatever-sexual all the above describes the method of sex that was used to full-fill God's command to be Fruitful and Mutilply.... God didn't use Asexual Reproduction because the bible claim that he went inside Mary to reproduce....this is the same method that human use which is why no matter how you try to spin it God had sex with Mary .....God most likely used the Missionary Position the bible doesnt say God went inside Mary,, but I can see where some peoples minds will remain,,, so continue the fantasizing,,,, MsHarmony...however you choose to believe how the seed of God was place into the seed of Mary...it would still be sex

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 09/07/11 09:35 AM Edited by CowboyGH on Wed 09/07/11 09:37 AM
If being fruitful pertained solely to procreation, why would it the procreation statement have to be made twice in one sentence? And or why would it be? God said to be fruitful AND multiply in the Earth. Two separate instructions. Genesis 1:28 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. if God gave the command to be fruitful and multiply to both animals and Man then the term "fruitful" has to be an inherent command of "lust" Why does it have to be? Are you not fruitful in anything you do? Guess since you're not fruitful in what you do, everything you do never helps another and or accomplishes anything... I'm sorry to hear this funches.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 09/07/11 09:42 AM
If being fruitful pertained solely to procreation, why would it the procreation statement have to be made twice in one sentence? And or why would it be? God said to be fruitful AND multiply in the Earth. Two separate instructions. Genesis 1:28 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. if God gave the command to be fruitful and multiply to both animals and Man then the term "fruitful" has to be an inherent command of "lust" Why does it have to be? Are you not fruitful in anything you do? Guess since you're not fruitful in what you do, everything you do never helps another and or accomplishes anything... I'm sorry to hear this funches. Cowboy....it's only logical why "Fruitful" would be the inherent command for "lust" ....unless you want to explain how little kittens and puppies learn how to have sex

Savannah69 Joined Mon 02/14/11 Posts: 91	Wed 09/07/11 09:44 AM
God didn't use Asexual Reproduction because the bible claim that he went inside Mary to reproduce....this is the same method that human use which is why no matter how you try to spin it God had sex with Mary .....God most likely used the Missionary Position Your just trying to piss people off.