The suffering of Earthlings has gone far enough. Do not fall under the spell of superstitions leading to war, unhappiness, jealousy, violence, prejudice, racism, and hatred.

Great compassion makes a peaceful heart

A peaceful heart makes a peaceful person
A peaceful person makes a peaceful family
A peaceful family makes a peaceful community
A peaceful community makes a peaceful nation
A peaceful nation makes a peaceful world

A peaceful world brings the solution to enduring peace and prosperity.

Interesting, cause Christianity doesn't lead to wars. People that have taken the title "Christian" and kill people over not believing has happened. But that is not supported by the belief in itself. So how exactly does the belief itself cause the war(s)? All Christianity does is spread piece. Love thy neighbor as thyself.

It is not piece but peace. Yes peace is what we need.

I have not mentioned anything about Christianity in this message. This message I relay is universal for everyone to read regardless in what one believes in.

We as Earthlings who share this planet with many different species who are also called Earthlings should learn to live in peace amongst each other regardless of what religious, spirituality, or belief system one practices.

May you find peace in your heart and mind.

Sorry, yes I ment peace lol. I know you didn't mention any specific religion. Only making a point on the matter.

You must subconsciously recognize that Christianity = superstition.

I think all faith-based believes are indeed superstitions of one form or another.

I personally don't feel that there is anything inherently negative about superstition in and of itself. It all depends on the people who hold the superstitions. They can make a superstition a beautiful thing, or they can use it it derogatory bigoted ways. That choice is up to the individual.

You knee-jerk reaction to defend Christianity against potential negative implications only shows that you fully recognize the history of how the religion has indeed been used in such negative ways.

For that reason alone you should be extremely sensitive and aware of how other people may have been adversely affected by the historical abuse of this religion.

Not only should this not come as a surprise to you, but you should be keenly aware of this innate history and recognize that it's the responsibility of anyone who wishes to improve the image of this religion to do so from an exceedingly tactful and positive vantage point in an effort to offset the highly negative history that the religion already has.

This is sorta true, yes. But this is/was not supported by the belief itself. This was caused by people's greed, selfishness, self-righteous, ect. The teachings in the scriptures do not teach us to be as such, things such as Christian crusades and those form of actions are not supported by the scriptures themselves, again just a person's actions and choice. So the belief in itself has caused no harm, only brings love and caring with teachings such as loving thy neighbor as thyself. Weather a "Christian" follows this order is irrelevant, the teachings themselves teach to be as such.

There is no such thing as "The Belief Itself" Cowboy. This is probably your greatest error.

Christianity is not a "belief". Christianity is a religion based on a set of doctrines. Everyone who reads those doctrines comes away with a different "belief".

So "belief" is an individual view point. There is not "Belief" that solely represents Christianity as a whole. Even though some people have deluded themselves into thinking that their "belief" should be the standard that everyone else should worship.

But that is erroneous thinking on their part.

As Jeanniebean pointed out in another thread:

The Bible is available for all to see and read. If it made any logical sense, then all Christians would agree.

It doesn't. They don't.

So the answer is not in the Bible.


There you have the real TRUTH.

Everyone who reads the doctrines associated with Christianity comes away with a different "belief" there is no ONE "belief" except in the minds of arrogant Paper Popes who think that their "belief" should trump all others.

So it makes no sense to even speak of Christianity as "a belief". It's a doctrine. And it's a doctrine that no two humans have ever been able to agree on when it comes to interpretations and personal "beliefs".

You spend all your time on these forums trying to convince everyone that your personal "beliefs" represent "Christianity" but they don't, and they can't.

And that's your error. And, quite frankly, your arrogance.

Arrogance means "self-important above all others" and clearly that's precisely how you hold your "belief" in Christianity. You hold your personal "belief" in Christianity out as though it represents Christianity and everyone else must accept YOUR BELIEFS, or they are "rejecting Christianity" and Jesus, and God the Father, blah, blah, blah.

That's nonsense.

There is no "Christian Belief itself" Cowboy.

That's what you need to get over.

All that exists are PERSONAL BELIEFS, of all the many different people who have read the Christian scriptures. And those "beliefs" include what you would call "non-believers". Because if a person read those scriptures and came away from them convinced that they are nothing more than the made up lies of men, then that's their BELIEF!

That is their "Belief in Christianity".

They actually believe that Christianity is as mythological and unworthy of consideration as Greek Mythology.

That's their "Belief in the doctrines of Christianity"

And their "belief" that those doctrines are unworthy of serious consideration is every bit as worthy as the "beliefs" of those who chose to place their faith in those doctrines.

So it's really a false notion to even speak about "non-believers" because there is no such thing. Everyone has a "belief". They either believe the doctrines are worthy of consideration, or they don't.

In both cases it's a "Belief", not a "Non-belief".

So you need to get it out of your head that your own personal 'beliefs' somehow represent "Christianity". They don't, and they cannot not.

All they represent is YOUR OPINIONS AND VIEWS.

Period.

That's all your own personal beliefs can represent.

earthlings seem to be surviving well. sure, life can be tough but i don't see all that much suffering comparatively. HEY??? compared to what??? is there life that's not earthling???

To the OP:

That sounds wonderful and lovely. Unfotunately it is mythical as well. Tell that to the middle east. Heck, just tell that to congress when they are bickering.

I don't want to fight. But I very strongly believe in defending myself from those that want to fight me.

Just grab them and give them a big peaceful kiss.
Hmmm although if you are defending yourself that may cause them not to react to peacefully, especially if it is a man you be kissing

I have to agree with mylifetoday. The OP's dream is indeed every bit as mythological, and ultimately misguided.


A peaceful heart makes a peaceful person


True.


A peaceful person makes a peaceful family


Not true. Many violent families have a peaceful member. It takes more than a peaceful person to make a peaceful family. It actually required that EVERY PERSON within the family be peaceful.


A peaceful family makes a peaceful community


Not true. Similar reasons to above. To make a peaceful community requires many peaceful families.


A peaceful community makes a peaceful nation


Not true. Similar reasons to above. To make a peaceful nation requires many peaceful communities. PLUS a leader that isn't insane!

I think the overwhelming majority of citizens were NOT FOR the invasion of Iraq, for example. I was personally so passionately against it I couldn't believe my eyes and ears on the day that Bush invaded Iraq. I was ashamed to be an "American" on that day, and I've never fully recovered from that shame.


A peaceful nation makes a peaceful world


On the contrary, it only takes ONE violent country to force many otherwise peaceful nations into war.

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There are famous sayings like, "You need to be the change that you'd like to see in the world".

That's certainly true, but what is NOT true is that the world will become the change that you become.

Sure, apply that to EVERY single person and it would indeed become true, but that very thought suggests that every single person would need to want to see the same change.

Look at these religious fanatics who dream of changing the entire world to become religious zealots who think exactly like them.

They have convinced themselves that this is the CHANGE that they would like to see in the world. They have also convinced themselves that this change would be PEACEFUL. After all, if everyone finally agrees with them and supports their personal prejudices and religious bigotries then there would no longer be any disagreements.

So from their perspective, their totalitarian fascist idealism appears to be what is needed to produce a 'peaceful world'. Just DEMAND that everyone agree with you and when they finally cower down to your beliefs, you'll have "peace".

That's their idea of "peace".

So they go around trying to get everyone to agree with them and call that a "Peace Mission".

Mythological to have peace?

I am afraid not. I post a idea and the reaction comes negative believing it cannot come true.

With such mindsets ...yes there will be no peace on this planet.

Change your mind and believe in peace

and advocate it on a daily bases

The more people know about the importance of peace the more people will practice it

Peaceful families can create peaceful communities and bring forth a peaceful nation.

yet if you think negative in doing so

it won't happen

Will there be a time where the world will be at peace without wars? Many say no it is not possible.

I say yes one day there will be.

Positive energy = positive results

By the way this message I wrote earlier is from a Cambodian President. If you know the history of Cambodia they had many problems including war. When he announced this speech the war stopped, dialogue came to the tables in trying to restore the countries differences and peace was ensured.

It is amazing how one speech can change a nation just like one document can. Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and so forth.

Words and Writings can be powerful instruments for both bad and good deeds.

Believe we can have better times in the future and we will have better times. It takes baby steps and sometimes you don't take any steps some days, but you never fail trying. Never give up!

Believe in peace and most likely we can find a way to ensure it, otherwise YOU are the source of not ensuring peace for the next man and woman and child.

There will be no peace as long as there are Muslims in this world. That is a fact. Hoping for such is just burying your head in the sand and pretending the sky isn't falling.

Believe it or not, there are people in this world that will kill anyone that does not have the same belief they do. Tell them to be peaceful. They are only peaceful when they have no means to project their power. They found a significant way on 9-11.

wow just wow

Ok, by your statement it appears you know very little about the Islamic faith.

I won't go into that as all you need to do is look at the Middle East. When was the last time they were completely at peace with no fighting of any kind? I am not even sure. Certainly not since WWII.

For being such a peace loving religion as so many claim in this country, they certainly are professing that peace kind of violently...

You can not possibly know anything about what I know and do not know about by a 3 word post....
your posts however speak volumes

I have no clue what the future may hold. I believe that anything is possible.

However there are some basic TRUTHS that cannot be ignored.

Lustful people tend to gravity and actively strive to obtain positions of POWER.

Meek peaceful people do not tend to be interesting in positions of POWER at all.

Therefore, based on that very fact alone it is far more likely the lustful people will obtain positions of leadership over those who do not lust for power.

This is true in many situations, from mere commercial competition, to governmental regimes.

In fact, it's even true in the competition for mates. The truth is that a highly competitive man who seeks POWER is far more likely to impress a woman, than a meek peaceful man is. That's just a fact of nature.

In fact, we can't ignore the very fact that we live in a naturally competitive world. It is the very nature of nature herself to be competitive and dog-eat-dog.

Does that mean that we are forever stuck with this essence of nature? No it doesn't.

But as a practical matter, it would be foolish to ignore that this is indeed the very nature of the evolution of our being. Ruthless competition is innate in our very evolution.

I personally believe that we are doing quite well in the face of this truth. Can we actually rise above the animalistic nature of nature? I believe we can, but even that process is going to be a slow one. That's not being "pessimistic", that's actually just being "realistic".

I personally believe that the vast majority of human beings on earth are indeed peaceful. Without a question. It may not seem that way in the middle east for sure. But even so, I'm sure that a LOT of people who actually live in the middle east are totally disgusted with the hostilities going on around them and are simply powerless to do anything about it.

Take a suicide bomber for example.

ONE suicide bomber goes into a place and blows up 30 people!

That makes it appear the 31 people were INVOLVED with VIOLENCE.

But that's a false illusion. Only ONE person was involved in violence. But 30 peaceful people got dragged into the violence unwillingly.

Same thing with the world trade centers. What was it? Maybe a dozen violent lunatics. And that ended up having thousands of peaceful people become part of the "violent event" via their mere deaths.

And that lead to ever more thousands of people becoming extremely angry and embittered because their peaceful loved ones were wrongfully killed.


If you look at the ACTUAL VIOLENCE it's only being perpetrated by very few individuals. It's just turns out that thousands of otherwise peaceful people get dragged into the situation through no desire of their own, and it just cascades from there.

The sad part about it all is that contrary to your dream, ONE peaceful person doesn't do much. However ONE violent person can wreck havoc for the lives of many peaceful people.

It's totally lop-sided. You can have a thousand peaceful people meeting to praise life itself and honor the human spirit. But if you have one lunatic come into that event with a machine gun or bomb, all of a sudden you have a majorly VIOLENT episode because many peaceful people are harmed or killed.

You notice the VIOLENCE magnified a hundred-fold.

Turn the situation around. Have a group of a thousand violent people and toss one peaceful person into that crowd and you won't even notice the difference at all.

That's the problem John. Peaceful actions do not offset violent actions.

Yes we should all contribute to being as peaceful as we possibly can, but we're always going to have the mentally ill among us. Mental illness isn't going to go away. And if you believe that being violent is irrational and insane, then violent people are indeed mentally ill people by that simple definition.

The world isn't perfect. We're always going to have mentally ill people, unfortunately. The world simply isn't perfect, and most likely never will be unless some kind of super-controlled genetic culture ultimately becomes a reality. But the very thought of that is viewed as sick and demented by a lot of people and is reminiscent of Hilter's desire to create a "Super Race".

How do you deal with the mentally ill, and the Paper Popes of the world like Osama Bin Laden who believed that killing people in the name of "God" is cool?

All I can say is that if everyone were like me this world would already be a peaceful place. I have never been in a physical fist fight in my life, save for one time high-school when a bully attacked me and gave me no choice but to defend myself.

Other than that one incident I can't recall having ever been involved in a violent exchange.

Did my peaceful nature change the world? Evidently not.

Although it may be the reason that there is great peace around my close proximity. For example, my cat is so trusting of me that it's actually bothersome. He won't even move out of my way because he is so confident that I won't step on him that it's entirely up to me to avoid stepping on him by accident.

Now that is a PEACEFUL world.

At least for my cat.

Very well said Abra!

I couldn't agree more.

As a further example it took 4 years to build the Twin Towers and at peak construction times there were 3,500 people building it.

All those man hours of peaceful construction over 4 years destroyed by a handful of men in less than an hour.

Destruction is always a lot easier and a whole lot less expensive than construction.

Roughly about 50 million man hours to create and 12 man hours to destroy...

to say christianity is a belief is as much a generalization as saying the bible is a book

the bible is a collection of books, in reality , which are taken in full by some and in parts by other


likewise, christianity is a religion and religion IS a set of beliefs,,(those beliefs can be personal or they can be shared by a multitude and called 'organized'


as to this, I totally disagree

The Bible is available for all to see and read. If it made any logical sense, then all Christians would agree.

It doesn't. They don't.

So the answer is not in the Bible.





A better analogy would involve UNDERSTANDING, not AGREEING or believing even


people dont need to agree upon facts for them to be facts

IF I tell you my mom is 5 foot 3, you dont have to agree for it to be true, you can insist she is at least 5 foot 4, but it wouldnt change the fact that she is not

If I tell you I have no asian blood in my ancestry, you dont have to believe it for it to be truth or fact

to state that everyone who reads a book must understand the same thing from that book for it to be true,, would be quite inaccurate because not everyone has the capacity to understand things the same way

autistic children need to be taught in a different way to understand things, and so do we all have little differences in how we learn

everyone does not have to agree upon their learning material for their material to be accurate, or truthful,,,