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Topic: Sticks and Stones
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Mon 04/25/11 08:10 AM









God uses a replicator to make his food. Like the ones on Star Trec. The food just appears out of nothing. Probably comes out of a black hole.


if nothing else existed but God...then where did the materials for the replicator and the black hole come from if not "begotton" of God?



Hmmmm Maybe, he just spat it out..


or perhaps farted it out .... but either way you look at it, it's a part that "begotton" out of him

Bummer, you have just wrecked my dinner, how can I eat it thinking my steak might have been begotten by a fart..Yuck


you may perfer a fart over seeing where that steak actually was "begotton" from

don't you mates have a television program there called "From The Farm Gate To The Plate"?

Are you joking, My steak comes straight from a yummy steer.

My job as a kid was to shoot the kangaroos to feed the dogs, then to cut them up for their dinner.
:wink: Seeing an animal cut up is not a hassell. I worked in a shearing shed as a yong girl, probably my favourite job ever. and we often sold killers to people for their dinner.
But eating something from someones butt is another matter.


you had more training than a ninja


Hmmm in the bush I could survive easily.
But in the city when I came to America, I was totally lost. its a scary world there, give me the bush snakes and crocs any day..


you could have camped out in the Zoos ...or in The Florida Everglades

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Mon 04/25/11 08:16 AM
Edited by josie68 on Mon 04/25/11 08:17 AM










God uses a replicator to make his food. Like the ones on Star Trec. The food just appears out of nothing. Probably comes out of a black hole.


if nothing else existed but God...then where did the materials for the replicator and the black hole come from if not "begotton" of God?



Hmmmm Maybe, he just spat it out..


or perhaps farted it out .... but either way you look at it, it's a part that "begotton" out of him

Bummer, you have just wrecked my dinner, how can I eat it thinking my steak might have been begotten by a fart..Yuck


you may perfer a fart over seeing where that steak actually was "begotton" from

don't you mates have a television program there called "From The Farm Gate To The Plate"?

Are you joking, My steak comes straight from a yummy steer.

My job as a kid was to shoot the kangaroos to feed the dogs, then to cut them up for their dinner.
:wink: Seeing an animal cut up is not a hassell. I worked in a shearing shed as a yong girl, probably my favourite job ever. and we often sold killers to people for their dinner.
But eating something from someones butt is another matter.


you had more training than a ninja


Hmmm in the bush I could survive easily.
But in the city when I came to America, I was totally lost. its a scary world there, give me the bush snakes and crocs any day..


you could have camped out in the Zoos ...or in The Florida Everglades


Are you joking, Once I got out of those humungous airports i was not leaving my hone without someone, How you all find your way anywhere in those cities is a mystery to me.
I have 200 000 people in my whole state, I swear there where more then that in the airport.. Our state is 2 and a half times the size of texas and we have heaps of space, you lot have everything everywhere. Nope. Its not safe to go out alone there. its a danger zone.

Well actually the Omaha zoo was pretty cool, especially as it was snowing and not many peole where out.. So that was Ok and not crowded.

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Mon 04/25/11 08:19 AM

??? What are you talking about? I've NEVER been in a "debate" with you. Spreading the word and preaching are two totally different things. And I'm not necassarily doing either one of those in this forum anyways. Again, this is a forum for DISCUSSION on one's beliefs. So I come to DISCUSS my beliefs as this is the forum for that. No preaching, no spreading the word in those exact terms. Just doing as this forum is for, DISCUSSION on one's beliefs in the religion area.


Cowboy...it's simple...if you are not spreading the word then you are going against the command of Jesus

but as to what we are doing is a debate or discussion...

you say po-ta-to
and I say po-tat-o
you say to-ma-to
and I say to-mat-o

and Jesus say spread the word ....or is it that when you enter into Mingles2.. you stop being a Christian and stop following the commands of Jesus?

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Mon 04/25/11 08:29 AM











God uses a replicator to make his food. Like the ones on Star Trec. The food just appears out of nothing. Probably comes out of a black hole.


if nothing else existed but God...then where did the materials for the replicator and the black hole come from if not "begotton" of God?



Hmmmm Maybe, he just spat it out..


or perhaps farted it out .... but either way you look at it, it's a part that "begotton" out of him

Bummer, you have just wrecked my dinner, how can I eat it thinking my steak might have been begotten by a fart..Yuck


you may perfer a fart over seeing where that steak actually was "begotton" from

don't you mates have a television program there called "From The Farm Gate To The Plate"?

Are you joking, My steak comes straight from a yummy steer.

My job as a kid was to shoot the kangaroos to feed the dogs, then to cut them up for their dinner.
:wink: Seeing an animal cut up is not a hassell. I worked in a shearing shed as a yong girl, probably my favourite job ever. and we often sold killers to people for their dinner.
But eating something from someones butt is another matter.


you had more training than a ninja


Hmmm in the bush I could survive easily.
But in the city when I came to America, I was totally lost. its a scary world there, give me the bush snakes and crocs any day..


you could have camped out in the Zoos ...or in The Florida Everglades


Are you joking, Once I got out of those humungous airports i was not leaving my hone without someone, How you all find your way anywhere in those cities is a mystery to me.
I have 200 000 people in my whole state, I swear there where more then that in the airport.. Our state is 2 and a half times the size of texas and we have heaps of space, you lot have everything everywhere. Nope. Its not safe to go out alone there. its a danger zone.

Well actually the Omaha zoo was pretty cool, especially as it was snowing and not many peole where out.. So that was Ok and not crowded.


after the way those air traffic controllers been falling asleep in the control towers and airplane pilots being caught drunk, flying on a plane should be far more scarier than the cities

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Mon 04/25/11 08:34 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 04/25/11 08:36 AM






as do non believers,, they just have faith in their own logic , right or wrong


MsHarmony ...by making claims that non-believers have faith is exactly why you lack it..

provide a passage from the bible where God or Jesus or even Satan states that those that don't believe have faith

if you can not find such a passage then you will understand that you mock your God by saying things like that

shame shame shame...sin sin sin

now be a nice MsHarmony and say three hell marys ...oops...er.. I meant say three "hail" marys





oh, only if I had the tendency to believe the only use of the word 'faith' is that of the bible


but , I am also educated in the common language of our times which defines faith as not ONLY pertaining to God

but

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions. 2. a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to ...


etc,,,etc,,etc,,,




MsHarmony...I'm still waiting on you to provide a passage from the bible that states that unbelievers have faith

why do believers always run to the dictionary to find definitions instead of running to the bible to find the passage that would back up what they said

or just admit that there is no such passage which means that you were mocking your God by suggesting stuff like that...wouldn't that make you an unbeliever?



nope, just makes me educated on the language of the environment in which I live


and makes you appear uneducated about the religion you base your life on ...



only so much as your interpretations make you seem uneducated about christianity,,as most of what you say cant SPECIFICALLY be found anywhere in the Bible, and in fact nowhere in the original bibles which werent written in our MODERN language,,,,,

E=MC squared isnt in my bible either, should I therefore not believe it or is it un christian of me to speak on it or discuss it?

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Mon 04/25/11 08:50 AM


??? What are you talking about? I've NEVER been in a "debate" with you. Spreading the word and preaching are two totally different things. And I'm not necassarily doing either one of those in this forum anyways. Again, this is a forum for DISCUSSION on one's beliefs. So I come to DISCUSS my beliefs as this is the forum for that. No preaching, no spreading the word in those exact terms. Just doing as this forum is for, DISCUSSION on one's beliefs in the religion area.


Cowboy...it's simple...if you are not spreading the word then you are going against the command of Jesus

but as to what we are doing is a debate or discussion...

you say po-ta-to
and I say po-tat-o
you say to-ma-to
and I say to-mat-o

and Jesus say spread the word ....or is it that when you enter into Mingles2.. you stop being a Christian and stop following the commands of Jesus?


We're having a discussion Funches. It is only you whom seems to be trying to prove something, show something, or anything along those lines. It is my belief that Jesus is Christ and savior. You disagree, that is fine. It's not a debate, it's a disagreement, you see things differently. That is fine. Again, yes I know i've failed it before and for this I apologize. But yes again, we are having purely a discussion. Two people won't always agree in a discussion, that is fine. It only turns to a debate when they won't leave it at that. That's why a lot of the time(s) I will just stop discussing in that particular thread/subject. For you again seem to think there is something to prove, to show, or is trying to be proven.

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Mon 04/25/11 09:08 AM







as do non believers,, they just have faith in their own logic , right or wrong


MsHarmony ...by making claims that non-believers have faith is exactly why you lack it..

provide a passage from the bible where God or Jesus or even Satan states that those that don't believe have faith

if you can not find such a passage then you will understand that you mock your God by saying things like that

shame shame shame...sin sin sin

now be a nice MsHarmony and say three hell marys ...oops...er.. I meant say three "hail" marys





oh, only if I had the tendency to believe the only use of the word 'faith' is that of the bible


but , I am also educated in the common language of our times which defines faith as not ONLY pertaining to God

but

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions. 2. a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to ...


etc,,,etc,,etc,,,




MsHarmony...I'm still waiting on you to provide a passage from the bible that states that unbelievers have faith

why do believers always run to the dictionary to find definitions instead of running to the bible to find the passage that would back up what they said

or just admit that there is no such passage which means that you were mocking your God by suggesting stuff like that...wouldn't that make you an unbeliever?



nope, just makes me educated on the language of the environment in which I live


and makes you appear uneducated about the religion you base your life on ...



only so much as your interpretations make you seem uneducated about christianity,,as most of what you say cant SPECIFICALLY be found anywhere in the Bible, and in fact nowhere in the original bibles which werent written in our MODERN language,,,,,


MsHarmony... excuses excuses...you have the Internet and your education at your beck and call but yet can't come up with the concept of placing "did God claim that unbelievers have faith" into the google search engine but yet amazingly you did google cut and paste the definition of faith in your post

and this is why making up concepts that God did not acknowledge or state in the bible is a lack of faith

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Mon 04/25/11 09:17 AM

only so much as your interpretations make you seem uneducated about christianity,,as most of what you say cant SPECIFICALLY be found anywhere in the Bible, and in fact nowhere in the original bibles which werent written in our MODERN language,,,,,

E=MC squared isnt in my bible either, should I therefore not believe it or is it un christian of me to speak on it or discuss it?


MsHarmony...sure you can discuss it...but when it pertains to your Christian belief you are supposed to keep it in the parameters set by God or it becomes blasphemy

if you wish to claim that unbelievers have faith ..then where in the bible did God proclaim this

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Mon 04/25/11 09:19 AM








as do non believers,, they just have faith in their own logic , right or wrong


MsHarmony ...by making claims that non-believers have faith is exactly why you lack it..

provide a passage from the bible where God or Jesus or even Satan states that those that don't believe have faith

if you can not find such a passage then you will understand that you mock your God by saying things like that

shame shame shame...sin sin sin

now be a nice MsHarmony and say three hell marys ...oops...er.. I meant say three "hail" marys





oh, only if I had the tendency to believe the only use of the word 'faith' is that of the bible


but , I am also educated in the common language of our times which defines faith as not ONLY pertaining to God

but

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions. 2. a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to ...


etc,,,etc,,etc,,,




MsHarmony...I'm still waiting on you to provide a passage from the bible that states that unbelievers have faith

why do believers always run to the dictionary to find definitions instead of running to the bible to find the passage that would back up what they said

or just admit that there is no such passage which means that you were mocking your God by suggesting stuff like that...wouldn't that make you an unbeliever?



nope, just makes me educated on the language of the environment in which I live


and makes you appear uneducated about the religion you base your life on ...



only so much as your interpretations make you seem uneducated about christianity,,as most of what you say cant SPECIFICALLY be found anywhere in the Bible, and in fact nowhere in the original bibles which werent written in our MODERN language,,,,,


MsHarmony... excuses excuses...you have the Internet and your education at your beck and call but yet can't come up with the concept of placing "did God claim that unbelievers have faith" into the google search engine but yet amazingly you did google cut and paste the definition of faith in your post

and this is why making up concepts that God did not acknowledge or state in the bible is a lack of faith



I didnt 'make up' the english language, it has nothing to do with my faith,,,,,,lol

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Mon 04/25/11 09:22 AM


only so much as your interpretations make you seem uneducated about christianity,,as most of what you say cant SPECIFICALLY be found anywhere in the Bible, and in fact nowhere in the original bibles which werent written in our MODERN language,,,,,

E=MC squared isnt in my bible either, should I therefore not believe it or is it un christian of me to speak on it or discuss it?


MsHarmony...sure you can discuss it...but when it pertains to your Christian belief you are supposed to keep it in the parameters set by God or it becomes blasphemy

if you wish to claim that unbelievers have faith ..then where in the bible did God proclaim this



AHHHAHHH , in the parameters set by God? seriously? what parameters did God set up to describe E=MC squared,, what parameters did God set up to explain what a quarter note is?

lol


ur hilarious, my faith in God does not require me to only know whats in the Bible , in fact, it doesnt REQUIRE me to know the bible at all,,,

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Mon 04/25/11 09:24 AM



??? What are you talking about? I've NEVER been in a "debate" with you. Spreading the word and preaching are two totally different things. And I'm not necassarily doing either one of those in this forum anyways. Again, this is a forum for DISCUSSION on one's beliefs. So I come to DISCUSS my beliefs as this is the forum for that. No preaching, no spreading the word in those exact terms. Just doing as this forum is for, DISCUSSION on one's beliefs in the religion area.


Cowboy...it's simple...if you are not spreading the word then you are going against the command of Jesus

but as to what we are doing is a debate or discussion...

you say po-ta-to
and I say po-tat-o
you say to-ma-to
and I say to-mat-o

and Jesus say spread the word ....or is it that when you enter into Mingles2.. you stop being a Christian and stop following the commands of Jesus?


We're having a discussion Funches. It is only you whom seems to be trying to prove something, show something, or anything along those lines. It is my belief that Jesus is Christ and savior. You disagree, that is fine. It's not a debate, it's a disagreement, you see things differently. That is fine. Again, yes I know i've failed it before and for this I apologize. But yes again, we are having purely a discussion. Two people won't always agree in a discussion, that is fine. It only turns to a debate when they won't leave it at that. That's why a lot of the time(s) I will just stop discussing in that particular thread/subject. For you again seem to think there is something to prove, to show, or is trying to be proven.


Dude...can you please come out of the tower of babble and find the passage where God claim that unbelievers have faith

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Mon 04/25/11 09:32 AM









as do non believers,, they just have faith in their own logic , right or wrong


MsHarmony ...by making claims that non-believers have faith is exactly why you lack it..

provide a passage from the bible where God or Jesus or even Satan states that those that don't believe have faith

if you can not find such a passage then you will understand that you mock your God by saying things like that

shame shame shame...sin sin sin

now be a nice MsHarmony and say three hell marys ...oops...er.. I meant say three "hail" marys





oh, only if I had the tendency to believe the only use of the word 'faith' is that of the bible


but , I am also educated in the common language of our times which defines faith as not ONLY pertaining to God

but

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions. 2. a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to ...


etc,,,etc,,etc,,,




MsHarmony...I'm still waiting on you to provide a passage from the bible that states that unbelievers have faith

why do believers always run to the dictionary to find definitions instead of running to the bible to find the passage that would back up what they said

or just admit that there is no such passage which means that you were mocking your God by suggesting stuff like that...wouldn't that make you an unbeliever?



nope, just makes me educated on the language of the environment in which I live


and makes you appear uneducated about the religion you base your life on ...



only so much as your interpretations make you seem uneducated about christianity,,as most of what you say cant SPECIFICALLY be found anywhere in the Bible, and in fact nowhere in the original bibles which werent written in our MODERN language,,,,,


MsHarmony... excuses excuses...you have the Internet and your education at your beck and call but yet can't come up with the concept of placing "did God claim that unbelievers have faith" into the google search engine but yet amazingly you did google cut and paste the definition of faith in your post

and this is why making up concepts that God did not acknowledge or state in the bible is a lack of faith



I didnt 'make up' the english language, it has nothing to do with my faith,,,,,,lol


then your unwillingness to learn the original language that the bible was written in displays your lack of faith ...because so far all youve been doing is using language mis-interpetation as excuses as to why you can't find passages in the bible

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Mon 04/25/11 09:35 AM










as do non believers,, they just have faith in their own logic , right or wrong


MsHarmony ...by making claims that non-believers have faith is exactly why you lack it..

provide a passage from the bible where God or Jesus or even Satan states that those that don't believe have faith

if you can not find such a passage then you will understand that you mock your God by saying things like that

shame shame shame...sin sin sin

now be a nice MsHarmony and say three hell marys ...oops...er.. I meant say three "hail" marys





oh, only if I had the tendency to believe the only use of the word 'faith' is that of the bible


but , I am also educated in the common language of our times which defines faith as not ONLY pertaining to God

but

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions. 2. a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to ...


etc,,,etc,,etc,,,




MsHarmony...I'm still waiting on you to provide a passage from the bible that states that unbelievers have faith

why do believers always run to the dictionary to find definitions instead of running to the bible to find the passage that would back up what they said

or just admit that there is no such passage which means that you were mocking your God by suggesting stuff like that...wouldn't that make you an unbeliever?



nope, just makes me educated on the language of the environment in which I live


and makes you appear uneducated about the religion you base your life on ...



only so much as your interpretations make you seem uneducated about christianity,,as most of what you say cant SPECIFICALLY be found anywhere in the Bible, and in fact nowhere in the original bibles which werent written in our MODERN language,,,,,


MsHarmony... excuses excuses...you have the Internet and your education at your beck and call but yet can't come up with the concept of placing "did God claim that unbelievers have faith" into the google search engine but yet amazingly you did google cut and paste the definition of faith in your post

and this is why making up concepts that God did not acknowledge or state in the bible is a lack of faith



I didnt 'make up' the english language, it has nothing to do with my faith,,,,,,lol


then your unwillingness to learn the original language that the bible was written in displays your lack of faith ...because so far all youve been doing is using language mis-interpetation as excuses as to why you can't find passages in the bible



using language mis interpretation = speaking english,,,LOL


anyhow, here is a verse that can be applied to 'set the parameters' that can be applied to ANYONE

"Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see," (Heb. 11:1)

(there is no qualifier here of who can or cant have such hope...)

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Mon 04/25/11 09:38 AM



only so much as your interpretations make you seem uneducated about christianity,,as most of what you say cant SPECIFICALLY be found anywhere in the Bible, and in fact nowhere in the original bibles which werent written in our MODERN language,,,,,

E=MC squared isnt in my bible either, should I therefore not believe it or is it un christian of me to speak on it or discuss it?


MsHarmony...sure you can discuss it...but when it pertains to your Christian belief you are supposed to keep it in the parameters set by God or it becomes blasphemy

if you wish to claim that unbelievers have faith ..then where in the bible did God proclaim this



AHHHAHHH , in the parameters set by God? seriously? what parameters did God set up to describe E=MC squared,, what parameters did God set up to explain what a quarter note is?

lol


I'm pretty sure if you use your noodle you will come up with something ....



ur hilarious, my faith in God does not require me to only know whats in the Bible , in fact, it doesnt REQUIRE me to know the bible at all,,,


how else would you know that God loves you ...for the bible tells you so

msharmony's photo
Mon 04/25/11 09:44 AM




only so much as your interpretations make you seem uneducated about christianity,,as most of what you say cant SPECIFICALLY be found anywhere in the Bible, and in fact nowhere in the original bibles which werent written in our MODERN language,,,,,

E=MC squared isnt in my bible either, should I therefore not believe it or is it un christian of me to speak on it or discuss it?


MsHarmony...sure you can discuss it...but when it pertains to your Christian belief you are supposed to keep it in the parameters set by God or it becomes blasphemy

if you wish to claim that unbelievers have faith ..then where in the bible did God proclaim this



AHHHAHHH , in the parameters set by God? seriously? what parameters did God set up to describe E=MC squared,, what parameters did God set up to explain what a quarter note is?

lol


I'm pretty sure if you use your noodle you will come up with something ....



ur hilarious, my faith in God does not require me to only know whats in the Bible , in fact, it doesnt REQUIRE me to know the bible at all,,,


how else would you know that God loves you ...for the bible tells you so



how do I know my granpas name, I didnt actually get it from a book, but someone else who did relayed the information to me

How did people have faith in God before the bible was written, someone TOLD them,,,,etc,,,

the bible is not a requirement of faith

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Mon 04/25/11 09:46 AM











as do non believers,, they just have faith in their own logic , right or wrong


MsHarmony ...by making claims that non-believers have faith is exactly why you lack it..

provide a passage from the bible where God or Jesus or even Satan states that those that don't believe have faith

if you can not find such a passage then you will understand that you mock your God by saying things like that

shame shame shame...sin sin sin

now be a nice MsHarmony and say three hell marys ...oops...er.. I meant say three "hail" marys





oh, only if I had the tendency to believe the only use of the word 'faith' is that of the bible


but , I am also educated in the common language of our times which defines faith as not ONLY pertaining to God

but

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions. 2. a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to ...


etc,,,etc,,etc,,,




MsHarmony...I'm still waiting on you to provide a passage from the bible that states that unbelievers have faith

why do believers always run to the dictionary to find definitions instead of running to the bible to find the passage that would back up what they said

or just admit that there is no such passage which means that you were mocking your God by suggesting stuff like that...wouldn't that make you an unbeliever?



nope, just makes me educated on the language of the environment in which I live


and makes you appear uneducated about the religion you base your life on ...



only so much as your interpretations make you seem uneducated about christianity,,as most of what you say cant SPECIFICALLY be found anywhere in the Bible, and in fact nowhere in the original bibles which werent written in our MODERN language,,,,,


MsHarmony... excuses excuses...you have the Internet and your education at your beck and call but yet can't come up with the concept of placing "did God claim that unbelievers have faith" into the google search engine but yet amazingly you did google cut and paste the definition of faith in your post

and this is why making up concepts that God did not acknowledge or state in the bible is a lack of faith



I didnt 'make up' the english language, it has nothing to do with my faith,,,,,,lol


then your unwillingness to learn the original language that the bible was written in displays your lack of faith ...because so far all youve been doing is using language mis-interpetation as excuses as to why you can't find passages in the bible



using language mis interpretation = speaking english,,,LOL


anyhow, here is a verse that can be applied to 'set the parameters' that can be applied to ANYONE

"Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see," (Heb. 11:1)

(there is no qualifier here of who can or cant have such hope...)


that's because you didn't include (Heb. 11:3)

(Heb 11:3)
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God


so MsHarmony... don't you think they were referring to believers and not Unbelievers...

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Mon 04/25/11 09:49 AM












as do non believers,, they just have faith in their own logic , right or wrong


MsHarmony ...by making claims that non-believers have faith is exactly why you lack it..

provide a passage from the bible where God or Jesus or even Satan states that those that don't believe have faith

if you can not find such a passage then you will understand that you mock your God by saying things like that

shame shame shame...sin sin sin

now be a nice MsHarmony and say three hell marys ...oops...er.. I meant say three "hail" marys





oh, only if I had the tendency to believe the only use of the word 'faith' is that of the bible


but , I am also educated in the common language of our times which defines faith as not ONLY pertaining to God

but

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions. 2. a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to ...


etc,,,etc,,etc,,,




MsHarmony...I'm still waiting on you to provide a passage from the bible that states that unbelievers have faith

why do believers always run to the dictionary to find definitions instead of running to the bible to find the passage that would back up what they said

or just admit that there is no such passage which means that you were mocking your God by suggesting stuff like that...wouldn't that make you an unbeliever?



nope, just makes me educated on the language of the environment in which I live


and makes you appear uneducated about the religion you base your life on ...



only so much as your interpretations make you seem uneducated about christianity,,as most of what you say cant SPECIFICALLY be found anywhere in the Bible, and in fact nowhere in the original bibles which werent written in our MODERN language,,,,,


MsHarmony... excuses excuses...you have the Internet and your education at your beck and call but yet can't come up with the concept of placing "did God claim that unbelievers have faith" into the google search engine but yet amazingly you did google cut and paste the definition of faith in your post

and this is why making up concepts that God did not acknowledge or state in the bible is a lack of faith



I didnt 'make up' the english language, it has nothing to do with my faith,,,,,,lol


then your unwillingness to learn the original language that the bible was written in displays your lack of faith ...because so far all youve been doing is using language mis-interpetation as excuses as to why you can't find passages in the bible



using language mis interpretation = speaking english,,,LOL


anyhow, here is a verse that can be applied to 'set the parameters' that can be applied to ANYONE

"Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see," (Heb. 11:1)

(there is no qualifier here of who can or cant have such hope...)


that's because you didn't include (Heb. 11:3)

(Heb 11:3)
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God


so MsHarmony... don't you think they were referring to believers and not Unbelievers...



they were referring to how BELIEVERS understand the world, through faith,,,they gave no qualifier that this is the ONLY way faith works though,,,,,,just how it works with believers which is consistent with the previous definition fo what faith is in HEB 11:1

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how else would you know that God loves you ...for the bible tells you so



how do I know my granpas name, I didnt actually get it from a book, but someone else who did relayed the information to me

How did people have faith in God before the bible was written, someone TOLD them,,,,etc,,,

the bible is not a requirement of faith


MsHarmony...the bible is part of that faith which automatically make it a requirement

the bible has a reason...and that is to keep the belief within a set parameter ...

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as do non believers,, they just have faith in their own logic , right or wrong


MsHarmony ...by making claims that non-believers have faith is exactly why you lack it..

provide a passage from the bible where God or Jesus or even Satan states that those that don't believe have faith

if you can not find such a passage then you will understand that you mock your God by saying things like that

shame shame shame...sin sin sin

now be a nice MsHarmony and say three hell marys ...oops...er.. I meant say three "hail" marys





oh, only if I had the tendency to believe the only use of the word 'faith' is that of the bible


but , I am also educated in the common language of our times which defines faith as not ONLY pertaining to God

but

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions. 2. a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to ...


etc,,,etc,,etc,,,




MsHarmony...I'm still waiting on you to provide a passage from the bible that states that unbelievers have faith

why do believers always run to the dictionary to find definitions instead of running to the bible to find the passage that would back up what they said

or just admit that there is no such passage which means that you were mocking your God by suggesting stuff like that...wouldn't that make you an unbeliever?



nope, just makes me educated on the language of the environment in which I live


and makes you appear uneducated about the religion you base your life on ...



only so much as your interpretations make you seem uneducated about christianity,,as most of what you say cant SPECIFICALLY be found anywhere in the Bible, and in fact nowhere in the original bibles which werent written in our MODERN language,,,,,


MsHarmony... excuses excuses...you have the Internet and your education at your beck and call but yet can't come up with the concept of placing "did God claim that unbelievers have faith" into the google search engine but yet amazingly you did google cut and paste the definition of faith in your post

and this is why making up concepts that God did not acknowledge or state in the bible is a lack of faith



I didnt 'make up' the english language, it has nothing to do with my faith,,,,,,lol


then your unwillingness to learn the original language that the bible was written in displays your lack of faith ...because so far all youve been doing is using language mis-interpetation as excuses as to why you can't find passages in the bible



using language mis interpretation = speaking english,,,LOL


anyhow, here is a verse that can be applied to 'set the parameters' that can be applied to ANYONE

"Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see," (Heb. 11:1)

(there is no qualifier here of who can or cant have such hope...)


that's because you didn't include (Heb. 11:3)

(Heb 11:3)
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God


so MsHarmony... don't you think they were referring to believers and not Unbelievers...



they were referring to how BELIEVERS understand the world, through faith,,,they gave no qualifier that this is the ONLY way faith works though,,,,,,just how it works with believers which is consistent with the previous definition fo what faith is in HEB 11:1


MsHarmony... if they were referring to as you claim how believers understand the world...then that's a clear indication they were referring to believer ...


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Mon 04/25/11 10:29 AM


how else would you know that God loves you ...for the bible tells you so



how do I know my granpas name, I didnt actually get it from a book, but someone else who did relayed the information to me

How did people have faith in God before the bible was written, someone TOLD them,,,,etc,,,

the bible is not a requirement of faith


MsHarmony...the bible is part of that faith which automatically make it a requirement

the bible has a reason...and that is to keep the belief within a set parameter ...



the lessons of the bible can be passed down, they were indeed passed down in order to even WRITE the bible

so no, the bible isnt part of FAITH it is only an additional resource

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