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Topic: Sticks and Stones
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Sun 04/24/11 10:05 AM

God uses a replicator to make his food. Like the ones on Star Trec. The food just appears out of nothing. Probably comes out of a black hole.


if nothing else existed but God...then where did the materials for the replicator and the black hole come from if not "begotton" of God?

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Sun 04/24/11 10:16 AM


Now you're just twisting my words again. You're getting fairly good at that :)

Lies told so far
Satan 0
Funches uncountable.

While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh, he was a man. He was the word made in FLESH. He came to bring the new covenant, not to judge and or rule. And besides all that Jesus does have the authority. If Jesus hadn't been willing to do the will of God he could have fairly well destroyed them all. But in doing so, would have been doing his own person agenda and not doing the will of God in completing the prophecies.


Cowboy...since you claim that I'm twisting your words then I guess I have to provide proof that you are lying..here are two posts from another thread where you claim that Jesus did have the authority...here's the link to it

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/298040?page=5

here's what you post in the second post of that thread page

posted by Cowboy:
No it doesn't. Jesus is the judge of all. When a "judge" carries out a judgment it is far from vigilantism


you just posted that Jesus was not here to judge and/or rule...which mean you got busted in a lie and a contradiction

here's what you posted in that same thread page in post 7


Jesus didn't declare himself the judge. God told us a long time ago that we are judged by the word. The word then was made flesh, Jesus. So the law has and always will be in the hands of Jesus. Still not vigilantism.


you posted that Jesus was not here to rule ..which means you got busted in another lie and a contradiction

since the subject was about Vigilantism....that would indicate that we were talking about the Laws on Earth

when means you once again got busted in two lies and once again preaching a false gospel

LIES TOLD
Satan 0
Cowboy 7




You're still not listening Funches. While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh he was not here to judge anyone. Yes Jesus is the judge, but that was not his intentions while he was on Earth. He was here to fulfill the old covenant and bring forth a new. Not to judge anyone. So please I ask you stop spreading your hateful lies and twisting of words. Please listen, half a person's obligation on a forum is to listen. So please if you're going to discuss, learn what you truly are talking about.

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Sun 04/24/11 10:29 AM
laugh laugh laugh

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Sun 04/24/11 10:33 AM


God uses a replicator to make his food. Like the ones on Star Trec. The food just appears out of nothing. Probably comes out of a black hole.


if nothing else existed but God...then where did the materials for the replicator and the black hole come from if not "begotton" of God?



He made the replicator with his thoughts and the black hole... well I'm not going to get into that, its too embarrassing.


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Sun 04/24/11 11:34 AM



Now you're just twisting my words again. You're getting fairly good at that :)

Lies told so far
Satan 0
Funches uncountable.

While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh, he was a man. He was the word made in FLESH. He came to bring the new covenant, not to judge and or rule. And besides all that Jesus does have the authority. If Jesus hadn't been willing to do the will of God he could have fairly well destroyed them all. But in doing so, would have been doing his own person agenda and not doing the will of God in completing the prophecies.


Cowboy...since you claim that I'm twisting your words then I guess I have to provide proof that you are lying..here are two posts from another thread where you claim that Jesus did have the authority...here's the link to it

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/298040?page=5

here's what you post in the second post of that thread page

posted by Cowboy:
No it doesn't. Jesus is the judge of all. When a "judge" carries out a judgment it is far from vigilantism


you just posted that Jesus was not here to judge and/or rule...which mean you got busted in a lie and a contradiction

here's what you posted in that same thread page in post 7


Jesus didn't declare himself the judge. God told us a long time ago that we are judged by the word. The word then was made flesh, Jesus. So the law has and always will be in the hands of Jesus. Still not vigilantism.


you posted that Jesus was not here to rule ..which means you got busted in another lie and a contradiction

since the subject was about Vigilantism....that would indicate that we were talking about the Laws on Earth

when means you once again got busted in two lies and once again preaching a false gospel

LIES TOLD
Satan 0
Cowboy 7




You're still not listening Funches. While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh he was not here to judge anyone. Yes Jesus is the judge, but that was not his intentions while he was on Earth. He was here to fulfill the old covenant and bring forth a new. Not to judge anyone. So please I ask you stop spreading your hateful lies and twisting of words. Please listen, half a person's obligation on a forum is to listen. So please if you're going to discuss, learn what you truly are talking about.


Cowboy(s) .. sorry but everything you post is a contradction....

Cowboy(1) said that Jesus was not on Earth to Judge
Cowboy(2) said that yes Jesus is the judge
Cowboy(3) said you're not listening Funches

are you The Cowboy Version of The Trinity?

but anyway all you were trying to do was get the debate away from why Jesus failed to tell Pontious Pilate that he was the law of anything

he had a chance to tell Pilate that he had authority over Heaven and Earth but didn't do so because the logical conclusion is that he was either scare or preying on the Jews only ....and this is supposed to be the son of God?

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/24/11 11:38 AM
lol THE logical conclusion laugh laugh laugh laugh


u guys slay me,,,

CowboyGH's photo
Sun 04/24/11 11:43 AM




Now you're just twisting my words again. You're getting fairly good at that :)

Lies told so far
Satan 0
Funches uncountable.

While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh, he was a man. He was the word made in FLESH. He came to bring the new covenant, not to judge and or rule. And besides all that Jesus does have the authority. If Jesus hadn't been willing to do the will of God he could have fairly well destroyed them all. But in doing so, would have been doing his own person agenda and not doing the will of God in completing the prophecies.


Cowboy...since you claim that I'm twisting your words then I guess I have to provide proof that you are lying..here are two posts from another thread where you claim that Jesus did have the authority...here's the link to it

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/298040?page=5

here's what you post in the second post of that thread page

posted by Cowboy:
No it doesn't. Jesus is the judge of all. When a "judge" carries out a judgment it is far from vigilantism


you just posted that Jesus was not here to judge and/or rule...which mean you got busted in a lie and a contradiction

here's what you posted in that same thread page in post 7


Jesus didn't declare himself the judge. God told us a long time ago that we are judged by the word. The word then was made flesh, Jesus. So the law has and always will be in the hands of Jesus. Still not vigilantism.


you posted that Jesus was not here to rule ..which means you got busted in another lie and a contradiction

since the subject was about Vigilantism....that would indicate that we were talking about the Laws on Earth

when means you once again got busted in two lies and once again preaching a false gospel

LIES TOLD
Satan 0
Cowboy 7




You're still not listening Funches. While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh he was not here to judge anyone. Yes Jesus is the judge, but that was not his intentions while he was on Earth. He was here to fulfill the old covenant and bring forth a new. Not to judge anyone. So please I ask you stop spreading your hateful lies and twisting of words. Please listen, half a person's obligation on a forum is to listen. So please if you're going to discuss, learn what you truly are talking about.


Cowboy(s) .. sorry but everything you post is a contradction....

Cowboy(1) said that Jesus was not on Earth to Judge
Cowboy(2) said that yes Jesus is the judge
Cowboy(3) said you're not listening Funches

are you The Cowboy Version of The Trinity?

but anyway all you were trying to do was get the debate away from why Jesus failed to tell Pontious Pilate that he was the law of anything

he had a chance to tell Pilate that he had authority over Heaven and Earth but didn't do so because the logical conclusion is that he was either scare or preying on the Jews only ....and this is supposed to be the son of God?


Jesus failed at nothing. Everything went along with the prophecies. How did Jesus fail? Pilate already knew these things Jesus said, that is the reason for his execution. Jesus didn't have to repeat himself.


Cowboy(1) said that Jesus was not on Earth to Judge
Cowboy(2) said that yes Jesus is the judge
Cowboy(3) said you're not listening Funches


You make no sense. Do you do these comments like this to get under the nerves of the one you're conversing with? I do not understand your statement here. None of that is a contradiction, none of that is renouncing the other.

1. Jesus was not here on Earth to judge the world, Jesus was fulfilling the prophecies of one covenant between God and man and giving us a new one to take place of the completed covenant.

2. Jesus is the judge when it comes to judgment time. When judgment time arrives Jesus will be the one whom will judge us.

3. Don't get the reasoning of this numeric, you're not listening.

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Sun 04/24/11 11:55 AM



God uses a replicator to make his food. Like the ones on Star Trec. The food just appears out of nothing. Probably comes out of a black hole.


if nothing else existed but God...then where did the materials for the replicator and the black hole come from if not "begotton" of God?



He made the replicator with his thoughts and the black hole... well I'm not going to get into that, its too embarrassing.




so wouldn't God's thoughts be that which "begotton" all creation ...and that all creation is part of God but not actually God

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Sun 04/24/11 12:05 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 04/24/11 12:06 PM




God uses a replicator to make his food. Like the ones on Star Trec. The food just appears out of nothing. Probably comes out of a black hole.


if nothing else existed but God...then where did the materials for the replicator and the black hole come from if not "begotton" of God?



He made the replicator with his thoughts and the black hole... well I'm not going to get into that, its too embarrassing.






so wouldn't God's thoughts be that which "begotton" all creation ...and that all creation is part of God but not actually God
Sounds reasonable.bigsmile

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Sun 04/24/11 12:22 PM

You make no sense. Do you do these comments like this to get under the nerves of the one you're conversing with? I do not understand your statement here. None of that is a contradiction, none of that is renouncing the other.


Cowboy...here's one of your contradictions that you posted below


In secular terms, Jesus wasn't the law. Jesus is the law of our eternal souls. There is a separation between the two, that is why we are instructed to follow the laws of our nation as well.


your post claims that Jesus is not the law in secular terms which indicate that he has no authority on Earth but was only the law pertaining to souls

so is that statement true?


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Sun 04/24/11 12:28 PM





God uses a replicator to make his food. Like the ones on Star Trec. The food just appears out of nothing. Probably comes out of a black hole.


if nothing else existed but God...then where did the materials for the replicator and the black hole come from if not "begotton" of God?



He made the replicator with his thoughts and the black hole... well I'm not going to get into that, its too embarrassing.






so wouldn't God's thoughts be that which "begotton" all creation ...and that all creation is part of God but not actually God
Sounds reasonable.bigsmile


which would mean why Jesus isn't the only "begotton" and that all creation is ....

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Sun 04/24/11 12:42 PM






God uses a replicator to make his food. Like the ones on Star Trec. The food just appears out of nothing. Probably comes out of a black hole.


if nothing else existed but God...then where did the materials for the replicator and the black hole come from if not "begotton" of God?



He made the replicator with his thoughts and the black hole... well I'm not going to get into that, its too embarrassing.






so wouldn't God's thoughts be that which "begotton" all creation ...and that all creation is part of God but not actually God
Sounds reasonable.bigsmile


which would mean why Jesus isn't the only "begotton" and that all creation is ....



I think your're right about that. :banana:

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Sun 04/24/11 01:03 PM
Jesus is the only begotten son

as in
1. (typically of a man, sometimes of a man and a woman) Bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction.


where no MORTAL man was involved and God was the only FATHER involved in his creation


we could technically also consider adam a begotten son except he wasnt from a woman either and generally one or the other is considered

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/24/11 01:07 PM





Now you're just twisting my words again. You're getting fairly good at that :)

Lies told so far
Satan 0
Funches uncountable.

While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh, he was a man. He was the word made in FLESH. He came to bring the new covenant, not to judge and or rule. And besides all that Jesus does have the authority. If Jesus hadn't been willing to do the will of God he could have fairly well destroyed them all. But in doing so, would have been doing his own person agenda and not doing the will of God in completing the prophecies.


Cowboy...since you claim that I'm twisting your words then I guess I have to provide proof that you are lying..here are two posts from another thread where you claim that Jesus did have the authority...here's the link to it

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/298040?page=5

here's what you post in the second post of that thread page

posted by Cowboy:
No it doesn't. Jesus is the judge of all. When a "judge" carries out a judgment it is far from vigilantism


you just posted that Jesus was not here to judge and/or rule...which mean you got busted in a lie and a contradiction

here's what you posted in that same thread page in post 7


Jesus didn't declare himself the judge. God told us a long time ago that we are judged by the word. The word then was made flesh, Jesus. So the law has and always will be in the hands of Jesus. Still not vigilantism.


you posted that Jesus was not here to rule ..which means you got busted in another lie and a contradiction

since the subject was about Vigilantism....that would indicate that we were talking about the Laws on Earth

when means you once again got busted in two lies and once again preaching a false gospel

LIES TOLD
Satan 0
Cowboy 7




You're still not listening Funches. While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh he was not here to judge anyone. Yes Jesus is the judge, but that was not his intentions while he was on Earth. He was here to fulfill the old covenant and bring forth a new. Not to judge anyone. So please I ask you stop spreading your hateful lies and twisting of words. Please listen, half a person's obligation on a forum is to listen. So please if you're going to discuss, learn what you truly are talking about.


Cowboy(s) .. sorry but everything you post is a contradction....

Cowboy(1) said that Jesus was not on Earth to Judge
Cowboy(2) said that yes Jesus is the judge
Cowboy(3) said you're not listening Funches

are you The Cowboy Version of The Trinity?

but anyway all you were trying to do was get the debate away from why Jesus failed to tell Pontious Pilate that he was the law of anything

he had a chance to tell Pilate that he had authority over Heaven and Earth but didn't do so because the logical conclusion is that he was either scare or preying on the Jews only ....and this is supposed to be the son of God?


Jesus failed at nothing. Everything went along with the prophecies. How did Jesus fail? Pilate already knew these things Jesus said, that is the reason for his execution. Jesus didn't have to repeat himself.


Cowboy(1) said that Jesus was not on Earth to Judge
Cowboy(2) said that yes Jesus is the judge
Cowboy(3) said you're not listening Funches


You make no sense. Do you do these comments like this to get under the nerves of the one you're conversing with? I do not understand your statement here. None of that is a contradiction, none of that is renouncing the other.

1. Jesus was not here on Earth to judge the world, Jesus was fulfilling the prophecies of one covenant between God and man and giving us a new one to take place of the completed covenant.

2. Jesus is the judge when it comes to judgment time. When judgment time arrives Jesus will be the one whom will judge us.

3. Don't get the reasoning of this numeric, you're not listening.



Three things Cowboy, one question and two statements

1. Do you feel in your gut that everyone discussing with you has any interest in really 'listening' to you,,,,?

2. Sometimes you gotta know when to leave people to their own logic. You know,,,let go and let God....

3. Dont let people get under your skin concerning your beliefs, brush it off your shoulder and keep going,,,

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Sun 04/24/11 01:16 PM
Edited by funches on Sun 04/24/11 01:26 PM

Jesus is the only begotten son

as in
1. (typically of a man, sometimes of a man and a woman) Bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction.


where no MORTAL man was involved and God was the only FATHER involved in his creation


we could technically also consider adam a begotten son except he wasnt from a woman either and generally one or the other is considered


Adam is exactly why no one can claim that Jesus is the begotton son

the creation of Adam without using a womb was one of the failsafes placed in the bible so that no one could claim they were God or that God would reduce himself to the level of having children with his creations.....

true Gods do not have parents or have the need to sire children with his children ...that points to an incestous God

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/24/11 01:28 PM
according to you,,,

not logical to me though,,

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Sun 04/24/11 01:35 PM






Now you're just twisting my words again. You're getting fairly good at that :)

Lies told so far
Satan 0
Funches uncountable.

While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh, he was a man. He was the word made in FLESH. He came to bring the new covenant, not to judge and or rule. And besides all that Jesus does have the authority. If Jesus hadn't been willing to do the will of God he could have fairly well destroyed them all. But in doing so, would have been doing his own person agenda and not doing the will of God in completing the prophecies.


Cowboy...since you claim that I'm twisting your words then I guess I have to provide proof that you are lying..here are two posts from another thread where you claim that Jesus did have the authority...here's the link to it

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/298040?page=5

here's what you post in the second post of that thread page

posted by Cowboy:
No it doesn't. Jesus is the judge of all. When a "judge" carries out a judgment it is far from vigilantism


you just posted that Jesus was not here to judge and/or rule...which mean you got busted in a lie and a contradiction

here's what you posted in that same thread page in post 7


Jesus didn't declare himself the judge. God told us a long time ago that we are judged by the word. The word then was made flesh, Jesus. So the law has and always will be in the hands of Jesus. Still not vigilantism.


you posted that Jesus was not here to rule ..which means you got busted in another lie and a contradiction

since the subject was about Vigilantism....that would indicate that we were talking about the Laws on Earth

when means you once again got busted in two lies and once again preaching a false gospel

LIES TOLD
Satan 0
Cowboy 7




You're still not listening Funches. While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh he was not here to judge anyone. Yes Jesus is the judge, but that was not his intentions while he was on Earth. He was here to fulfill the old covenant and bring forth a new. Not to judge anyone. So please I ask you stop spreading your hateful lies and twisting of words. Please listen, half a person's obligation on a forum is to listen. So please if you're going to discuss, learn what you truly are talking about.


Cowboy(s) .. sorry but everything you post is a contradction....

Cowboy(1) said that Jesus was not on Earth to Judge
Cowboy(2) said that yes Jesus is the judge
Cowboy(3) said you're not listening Funches

are you The Cowboy Version of The Trinity?

but anyway all you were trying to do was get the debate away from why Jesus failed to tell Pontious Pilate that he was the law of anything

he had a chance to tell Pilate that he had authority over Heaven and Earth but didn't do so because the logical conclusion is that he was either scare or preying on the Jews only ....and this is supposed to be the son of God?


Jesus failed at nothing. Everything went along with the prophecies. How did Jesus fail? Pilate already knew these things Jesus said, that is the reason for his execution. Jesus didn't have to repeat himself.


Cowboy(1) said that Jesus was not on Earth to Judge
Cowboy(2) said that yes Jesus is the judge
Cowboy(3) said you're not listening Funches


You make no sense. Do you do these comments like this to get under the nerves of the one you're conversing with? I do not understand your statement here. None of that is a contradiction, none of that is renouncing the other.

1. Jesus was not here on Earth to judge the world, Jesus was fulfilling the prophecies of one covenant between God and man and giving us a new one to take place of the completed covenant.

2. Jesus is the judge when it comes to judgment time. When judgment time arrives Jesus will be the one whom will judge us.

3. Don't get the reasoning of this numeric, you're not listening.



Three things Cowboy, one question and two statements

1. Do you feel in your gut that everyone discussing with you has any interest in really 'listening' to you,,,,?

2. Sometimes you gotta know when to leave people to their own logic. You know,,,let go and let God....

3. Dont let people get under your skin concerning your beliefs, brush it off your shoulder and keep going,,,


yep I agree...next thing you know Cowboy(1) will be in the church turning over the tables of those exchanging money while Cowboy(2) states that he's not actually turning over the tables and Cowboy(3) states that he doesn't go to church

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Sun 04/24/11 01:36 PM
Edited by funches on Sun 04/24/11 01:38 PM

according to you,,,

not logical to me though,,


MsHarmony....faith requires no logic

besides if it wasn't logical to you...you wouldn't have brought up Adam

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Sun 04/24/11 01:38 PM


according to you,,,

not logical to me though,,


MsHarmony....faith requires no logic



that explains why your responses have so little ,,,i congratulate you on your faith,,lol

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Sun 04/24/11 01:42 PM



according to you,,,

not logical to me though,,


MsHarmony....faith requires no logic



that explains why your responses have so little ,,,i congratulate you on your faith,,lol


as I congratulate you for your lack of it

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