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Topic: Sticks and Stones
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Mon 04/25/11 03:18 AM




Funches, honestly you crack me up


If God is God, which we havent established that he is except as a character in a book, then the character could pull it out of anywhere he please.
Surely he wouldnt have just sat their in the Dark..so the substance must have come from somewhere and if there was nothing before God then was there space, as if there wasnt any space he would have been squashed.
so there must have been something..

hmmm and if things apeared when he spoke then what was it made of, not him, but something..


even the character God in the book is still under the jurisdiction of logic but not under the jurisdiction of the laws of physics but space is under this jurisdiction which mean that space would not effect God or a lack of it would not squash God.and according to Genesis God existed in the darkness and only for his creations did he create light...

which means that "In The Beggining" nothing else existed, not space nor light only the darkness that is God existed...

even if things as you said appeared when he spoke the substance that they were constucted of still would have to come from God since nothing else existed

so if nothing existed but God...then where did the substance that he made his dinner come from? ..if it was not from him?

the answer will show that all creation is "begotton" from God but not actually God....



Ok, Well he must have been pretty bored when he was sitting there in the dark..
I have absolutely no idea where anything came from..

so I think I will put some serious thought into it..


Nope couldnt find the answer


"Josie" God wasn't sitting in the dark .....according to Genesis God is the dark and the Light is a creation ....

this is why to believe that God is the light is untrue because that would make God a creation

God created light so that his creations could not see him.....once you turn on the light the dark that God exist within dissipates

as Darth Vader might say...to find God you must come over to the Dark Side

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Mon 04/25/11 03:23 AM



God uses a replicator to make his food. Like the ones on Star Trec. The food just appears out of nothing. Probably comes out of a black hole.


if nothing else existed but God...then where did the materials for the replicator and the black hole come from if not "begotton" of God?



Hmmmm Maybe, he just spat it out..


or perhaps farted it out .... but either way you look at it, it's a part that "begotton" out of him

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Mon 04/25/11 03:34 AM
Edited by funches on Mon 04/25/11 03:34 AM





Now you're just twisting my words again. You're getting fairly good at that :)

Lies told so far
Satan 0
Funches uncountable.

While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh, he was a man. He was the word made in FLESH. He came to bring the new covenant, not to judge and or rule. And besides all that Jesus does have the authority. If Jesus hadn't been willing to do the will of God he could have fairly well destroyed them all. But in doing so, would have been doing his own person agenda and not doing the will of God in completing the prophecies.

Cowboy...since you claim that I'm twisting your words then I guess I have to provide proof that you are lying..here are two posts from another thread where you claim that Jesus did have the authority...here's the link to it

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/298040?page=5

here's what you post in the second post of that thread page

posted by Cowboy:
No it doesn't. Jesus is the judge of all. When a "judge" carries out a judgment it is far from vigilantism


you just posted that Jesus was not here to judge and/or rule...which mean you got busted in a lie and a contradiction

here's what you posted in that same thread page in post 7


Jesus didn't declare himself the judge. God told us a long time ago that we are judged by the word. The word then was made flesh, Jesus. So the law has and always will be in the hands of Jesus. Still not vigilantism.


you posted that Jesus was not here to rule ..which means you got busted in another lie and a contradiction

since the subject was about Vigilantism....that would indicate that we were talking about the Laws on Earth

when means you once again got busted in two lies and once again preaching a false gospel

LIES TOLD
Satan 0
Cowboy 7




You're still not listening Funches. While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh he was not here to judge anyone. Yes Jesus is the judge, but that was not his intentions while he was on Earth. He was here to fulfill the old covenant and bring forth a new. Not to judge anyone. So please I ask you stop spreading your hateful lies and twisting of words. Please listen, half a person's obligation on a forum is to listen. So please if you're going to discuss, learn what you truly are talking about.


Cowboy(s) .. sorry but everything you post is a contradction....

Cowboy(1) said that Jesus was not on Earth to Judge
Cowboy(2) said that yes Jesus is the judge
Cowboy(3) said you're not listening Funches

are you The Cowboy Version of The Trinity?

but anyway all you were trying to do was get the debate away from why Jesus failed to tell Pontious Pilate that he was the law of anything

he had a chance to tell Pilate that he had authority over Heaven and Earth but didn't do so because the logical conclusion is that he was either scare or preying on the Jews only ....and this is supposed to be the son of God?




Cowboy,, I think that Funches does listen to you , he is just very skilled at pushing your buttons and frustrating you.



as Cowboy is here to preach the bible and convert others I'm here to teach him how to do it without seeking to preach a false gospel, for my intentions are pure as my only aim is to place Cowboy heathenous ways on the path to true righteousness so that he will get into Heaven and not be tossed into the lake of fire with the other heathens .....

Cowboy can only get to God through me...funches 3:16

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Mon 04/25/11 03:45 AM





as do non believers,, they just have faith in their own logic , right or wrong


MsHarmony ...by making claims that non-believers have faith is exactly why you lack it..

provide a passage from the bible where God or Jesus or even Satan states that those that don't believe have faith

if you can not find such a passage then you will understand that you mock your God by saying things like that

shame shame shame...sin sin sin

now be a nice MsHarmony and say three hell marys ...oops...er.. I meant say three "hail" marys





oh, only if I had the tendency to believe the only use of the word 'faith' is that of the bible


but , I am also educated in the common language of our times which defines faith as not ONLY pertaining to God

but

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions. 2. a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to ...


etc,,,etc,,etc,,,




MsHarmony...I'm still waiting on you to provide a passage from the bible that states that unbelievers have faith

why do believers always run to the dictionary to find definitions instead of running to the bible to find the passage that would back up what they said

or just admit that there is no such passage which means that you were mocking your God by suggesting stuff like that...wouldn't that make you an unbeliever?



nope, just makes me educated on the language of the environment in which I live


and makes you appear uneducated about the religion you base your life on ...

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Mon 04/25/11 04:41 AM
Edited by josie68 on Mon 04/25/11 04:43 AM




Cowboy,, I think that Funches does listen to you , he is just very skilled at pushing your buttons and frustrating you.



as Cowboy is here to preach the bible and convert others I'm here to teach him how to do it without seeking to preach a false gospel, for my intentions are pure as my only aim is to place Cowboy heathenous ways on the path to true righteousness so that he will get into Heaven and not be tossed into the lake of fire with the other heathens .....

Cowboy can only get to God through me...funches 3:16



Funches you are killing me here.



Your pureness has blinded me and I can no longer see my way.

josie68's photo
Mon 04/25/11 04:45 AM
Edited by josie68 on Mon 04/25/11 04:47 AM




God uses a replicator to make his food. Like the ones on Star Trec. The food just appears out of nothing. Probably comes out of a black hole.


if nothing else existed but God...then where did the materials for the replicator and the black hole come from if not "begotton" of God?



Hmmmm Maybe, he just spat it out..


or perhaps farted it out .... but either way you look at it, it's a part that "begotton" out of him

Bummer, you have just wrecked my dinner, how can I eat it thinking my steak might have been begotten by a fart..Yuck

josie68's photo
Mon 04/25/11 04:52 AM




Ok, Well he must have been pretty bored when he was sitting there in the dark..
I have absolutely no idea where anything came from..

so I think I will put some serious thought into it..


Nope couldnt find the answer


"Josie" God wasn't sitting in the dark .....according to Genesis God is the dark and the Light is a creation ....

this is why to believe that God is the light is untrue because that would make God a creation

God created light so that his creations could not see him.....once you turn on the light the dark that God exist within dissipates

as Darth Vader might say...to find God you must come over to the Dark Side


But i am scared of the dark, have to keep at least one light on..

And no way am i going anywhere alone in the dark.

I always had just figured he was known as the light because he showed us the way.

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Mon 04/25/11 07:05 AM





God uses a replicator to make his food. Like the ones on Star Trec. The food just appears out of nothing. Probably comes out of a black hole.


if nothing else existed but God...then where did the materials for the replicator and the black hole come from if not "begotton" of God?



Hmmmm Maybe, he just spat it out..


or perhaps farted it out .... but either way you look at it, it's a part that "begotton" out of him

Bummer, you have just wrecked my dinner, how can I eat it thinking my steak might have been begotten by a fart..Yuck


you may perfer a fart over seeing where that steak actually was "begotton" from

don't you mates have a television program there called "From The Farm Gate To The Plate"?

josie68's photo
Mon 04/25/11 07:15 AM






God uses a replicator to make his food. Like the ones on Star Trec. The food just appears out of nothing. Probably comes out of a black hole.


if nothing else existed but God...then where did the materials for the replicator and the black hole come from if not "begotton" of God?



Hmmmm Maybe, he just spat it out..


or perhaps farted it out .... but either way you look at it, it's a part that "begotton" out of him

Bummer, you have just wrecked my dinner, how can I eat it thinking my steak might have been begotten by a fart..Yuck


you may perfer a fart over seeing where that steak actually was "begotton" from

don't you mates have a television program there called "From The Farm Gate To The Plate"?

Are you joking, My steak comes straight from a yummy steer.

My job as a kid was to shoot the kangaroos to feed the dogs, then to cut them up for their dinner.
:wink: Seeing an animal cut up is not a hassell. I worked in a shearing shed as a yong girl, probably my favourite job ever. and we often sold killers to people for their dinner.
But eating something from someones butt is another matter.

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Mon 04/25/11 07:27 AM






Now you're just twisting my words again. You're getting fairly good at that :)

Lies told so far
Satan 0
Funches uncountable.

While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh, he was a man. He was the word made in FLESH. He came to bring the new covenant, not to judge and or rule. And besides all that Jesus does have the authority. If Jesus hadn't been willing to do the will of God he could have fairly well destroyed them all. But in doing so, would have been doing his own person agenda and not doing the will of God in completing the prophecies.

Cowboy...since you claim that I'm twisting your words then I guess I have to provide proof that you are lying..here are two posts from another thread where you claim that Jesus did have the authority...here's the link to it

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/298040?page=5

here's what you post in the second post of that thread page

posted by Cowboy:
No it doesn't. Jesus is the judge of all. When a "judge" carries out a judgment it is far from vigilantism


you just posted that Jesus was not here to judge and/or rule...which mean you got busted in a lie and a contradiction

here's what you posted in that same thread page in post 7


Jesus didn't declare himself the judge. God told us a long time ago that we are judged by the word. The word then was made flesh, Jesus. So the law has and always will be in the hands of Jesus. Still not vigilantism.


you posted that Jesus was not here to rule ..which means you got busted in another lie and a contradiction

since the subject was about Vigilantism....that would indicate that we were talking about the Laws on Earth

when means you once again got busted in two lies and once again preaching a false gospel

LIES TOLD
Satan 0
Cowboy 7




You're still not listening Funches. While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh he was not here to judge anyone. Yes Jesus is the judge, but that was not his intentions while he was on Earth. He was here to fulfill the old covenant and bring forth a new. Not to judge anyone. So please I ask you stop spreading your hateful lies and twisting of words. Please listen, half a person's obligation on a forum is to listen. So please if you're going to discuss, learn what you truly are talking about.


Cowboy(s) .. sorry but everything you post is a contradction....

Cowboy(1) said that Jesus was not on Earth to Judge
Cowboy(2) said that yes Jesus is the judge
Cowboy(3) said you're not listening Funches

are you The Cowboy Version of The Trinity?

but anyway all you were trying to do was get the debate away from why Jesus failed to tell Pontious Pilate that he was the law of anything

he had a chance to tell Pilate that he had authority over Heaven and Earth but didn't do so because the logical conclusion is that he was either scare or preying on the Jews only ....and this is supposed to be the son of God?




Cowboy,, I think that Funches does listen to you , he is just very skilled at pushing your buttons and frustrating you.



as Cowboy is here to preach the bible and convert others I'm here to teach him how to do it without seeking to preach a false gospel, for my intentions are pure as my only aim is to place Cowboy heathenous ways on the path to true righteousness so that he will get into Heaven and not be tossed into the lake of fire with the other heathens .....

Cowboy can only get to God through me...funches 3:16


Glad to see you're so prideful in your greatness Funches :) hope it works out for you.

Not here for preaching nor do I do any preaching. We're in a forum to discuss our different beliefs. I merely state my beliefs, if one wishes to believe as I do or not means nothing. We're here purely for enlightened discussion.

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 04/25/11 07:30 AM






as do non believers,, they just have faith in their own logic , right or wrong


MsHarmony ...by making claims that non-believers have faith is exactly why you lack it..

provide a passage from the bible where God or Jesus or even Satan states that those that don't believe have faith

if you can not find such a passage then you will understand that you mock your God by saying things like that

shame shame shame...sin sin sin

now be a nice MsHarmony and say three hell marys ...oops...er.. I meant say three "hail" marys





oh, only if I had the tendency to believe the only use of the word 'faith' is that of the bible


but , I am also educated in the common language of our times which defines faith as not ONLY pertaining to God

but

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions. 2. a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to ...


etc,,,etc,,etc,,,




MsHarmony...I'm still waiting on you to provide a passage from the bible that states that unbelievers have faith

why do believers always run to the dictionary to find definitions instead of running to the bible to find the passage that would back up what they said

or just admit that there is no such passage which means that you were mocking your God by suggesting stuff like that...wouldn't that make you an unbeliever?



nope, just makes me educated on the language of the environment in which I live


and makes you appear uneducated about the religion you base your life on ...


You don't need the bible for such knowledge.

Believers: Have faith that Jesus is the only way to God.
Unbelievers: Have faith that it is all a pack of lies.

Having faith doesn't mean you have faith something is true. Having faith in something is a feeling that what you believe is true.

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Mon 04/25/11 07:40 AM
Which scriptures are good?

Beating a slave to near death being O.K.
Instructions on raping female war captives
Sacrificing your daughter for military victories
killing 42 kids with bears for calling God's prophet a baldy
offering your daughter to crowd of men to be raped
having sex with your two daughters in a cave when you're drunk
Telling people to gouge out their eyes if it causes them to sin
Stoning people to death for picking up sticks
Eternal punishment for finite crimes
Killing a man because he masturbated
Invading and slaughtering entire cities
Turning the other check - NO ONE FOLLOWS THIS FOR GOOD REASON
Give away everything you own - NO ONE DOES THIS FOR GOOD REASON
etc, etc, etc

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Mon 04/25/11 07:48 AM







God uses a replicator to make his food. Like the ones on Star Trec. The food just appears out of nothing. Probably comes out of a black hole.


if nothing else existed but God...then where did the materials for the replicator and the black hole come from if not "begotton" of God?



Hmmmm Maybe, he just spat it out..


or perhaps farted it out .... but either way you look at it, it's a part that "begotton" out of him

Bummer, you have just wrecked my dinner, how can I eat it thinking my steak might have been begotten by a fart..Yuck


you may perfer a fart over seeing where that steak actually was "begotton" from

don't you mates have a television program there called "From The Farm Gate To The Plate"?

Are you joking, My steak comes straight from a yummy steer.

My job as a kid was to shoot the kangaroos to feed the dogs, then to cut them up for their dinner.
:wink: Seeing an animal cut up is not a hassell. I worked in a shearing shed as a yong girl, probably my favourite job ever. and we often sold killers to people for their dinner.
But eating something from someones butt is another matter.


you had more training than a ninja

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Mon 04/25/11 07:53 AM







Now you're just twisting my words again. You're getting fairly good at that :)

Lies told so far
Satan 0
Funches uncountable.

While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh, he was a man. He was the word made in FLESH. He came to bring the new covenant, not to judge and or rule. And besides all that Jesus does have the authority. If Jesus hadn't been willing to do the will of God he could have fairly well destroyed them all. But in doing so, would have been doing his own person agenda and not doing the will of God in completing the prophecies.

Cowboy...since you claim that I'm twisting your words then I guess I have to provide proof that you are lying..here are two posts from another thread where you claim that Jesus did have the authority...here's the link to it

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/298040?page=5

here's what you post in the second post of that thread page

posted by Cowboy:
No it doesn't. Jesus is the judge of all. When a "judge" carries out a judgment it is far from vigilantism


you just posted that Jesus was not here to judge and/or rule...which mean you got busted in a lie and a contradiction

here's what you posted in that same thread page in post 7


Jesus didn't declare himself the judge. God told us a long time ago that we are judged by the word. The word then was made flesh, Jesus. So the law has and always will be in the hands of Jesus. Still not vigilantism.


you posted that Jesus was not here to rule ..which means you got busted in another lie and a contradiction

since the subject was about Vigilantism....that would indicate that we were talking about the Laws on Earth

when means you once again got busted in two lies and once again preaching a false gospel

LIES TOLD
Satan 0
Cowboy 7




You're still not listening Funches. While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh he was not here to judge anyone. Yes Jesus is the judge, but that was not his intentions while he was on Earth. He was here to fulfill the old covenant and bring forth a new. Not to judge anyone. So please I ask you stop spreading your hateful lies and twisting of words. Please listen, half a person's obligation on a forum is to listen. So please if you're going to discuss, learn what you truly are talking about.


Cowboy(s) .. sorry but everything you post is a contradction....

Cowboy(1) said that Jesus was not on Earth to Judge
Cowboy(2) said that yes Jesus is the judge
Cowboy(3) said you're not listening Funches

are you The Cowboy Version of The Trinity?

but anyway all you were trying to do was get the debate away from why Jesus failed to tell Pontious Pilate that he was the law of anything

he had a chance to tell Pilate that he had authority over Heaven and Earth but didn't do so because the logical conclusion is that he was either scare or preying on the Jews only ....and this is supposed to be the son of God?




Cowboy,, I think that Funches does listen to you , he is just very skilled at pushing your buttons and frustrating you.



as Cowboy is here to preach the bible and convert others I'm here to teach him how to do it without seeking to preach a false gospel, for my intentions are pure as my only aim is to place Cowboy heathenous ways on the path to true righteousness so that he will get into Heaven and not be tossed into the lake of fire with the other heathens .....

Cowboy can only get to God through me...funches 3:16


Glad to see you're so prideful in your greatness Funches :) hope it works out for you.

Not here for preaching nor do I do any preaching. We're in a forum to discuss our different beliefs. I merely state my beliefs, if one wishes to believe as I do or not means nothing. We're here purely for enlightened discussion.


Cowboy...that's a pretty cool disclaimer...but aren't we in a debate about how Jesus told the people to spread the word to all nations...I guess all those name Cowboy are exempt from that command

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 04/25/11 07:53 AM

Which scriptures are good?

Beating a slave to near death being O.K.
Instructions on raping female war captives
Sacrificing your daughter for military victories
killing 42 kids with bears for calling God's prophet a baldy
offering your daughter to crowd of men to be raped
having sex with your two daughters in a cave when you're drunk
Telling people to gouge out their eyes if it causes them to sin
Stoning people to death for picking up sticks
Eternal punishment for finite crimes
Killing a man because he masturbated
Invading and slaughtering entire cities
Turning the other check - NO ONE FOLLOWS THIS FOR GOOD REASON
Give away everything you own - NO ONE DOES THIS FOR GOOD REASON
etc, etc, etc




Telling people to gouge out their eyes if it causes them to sin


When the bible speaks of things such as this, it is more or less figuratively speaking. If what you see causes you to sin, then look away. If what you see is sinful activity, turn and walk away, do not partake.

And I know not what you are speaking of with the other things you mentioned. Why would no one turn the other cheek for good reason? Why would someone not give away everything they own not for good reason?

josie68's photo
Mon 04/25/11 07:54 AM








God uses a replicator to make his food. Like the ones on Star Trec. The food just appears out of nothing. Probably comes out of a black hole.


if nothing else existed but God...then where did the materials for the replicator and the black hole come from if not "begotton" of God?



Hmmmm Maybe, he just spat it out..


or perhaps farted it out .... but either way you look at it, it's a part that "begotton" out of him

Bummer, you have just wrecked my dinner, how can I eat it thinking my steak might have been begotten by a fart..Yuck


you may perfer a fart over seeing where that steak actually was "begotton" from

don't you mates have a television program there called "From The Farm Gate To The Plate"?

Are you joking, My steak comes straight from a yummy steer.

My job as a kid was to shoot the kangaroos to feed the dogs, then to cut them up for their dinner.
:wink: Seeing an animal cut up is not a hassell. I worked in a shearing shed as a yong girl, probably my favourite job ever. and we often sold killers to people for their dinner.
But eating something from someones butt is another matter.


you had more training than a ninja


Hmmm in the bush I could survive easily.
But in the city when I came to America, I was totally lost. its a scary world there, give me the bush snakes and crocs any day..

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 04/25/11 07:56 AM








Now you're just twisting my words again. You're getting fairly good at that :)

Lies told so far
Satan 0
Funches uncountable.

While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh, he was a man. He was the word made in FLESH. He came to bring the new covenant, not to judge and or rule. And besides all that Jesus does have the authority. If Jesus hadn't been willing to do the will of God he could have fairly well destroyed them all. But in doing so, would have been doing his own person agenda and not doing the will of God in completing the prophecies.

Cowboy...since you claim that I'm twisting your words then I guess I have to provide proof that you are lying..here are two posts from another thread where you claim that Jesus did have the authority...here's the link to it

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/298040?page=5

here's what you post in the second post of that thread page

posted by Cowboy:
No it doesn't. Jesus is the judge of all. When a "judge" carries out a judgment it is far from vigilantism


you just posted that Jesus was not here to judge and/or rule...which mean you got busted in a lie and a contradiction

here's what you posted in that same thread page in post 7


Jesus didn't declare himself the judge. God told us a long time ago that we are judged by the word. The word then was made flesh, Jesus. So the law has and always will be in the hands of Jesus. Still not vigilantism.


you posted that Jesus was not here to rule ..which means you got busted in another lie and a contradiction

since the subject was about Vigilantism....that would indicate that we were talking about the Laws on Earth

when means you once again got busted in two lies and once again preaching a false gospel

LIES TOLD
Satan 0
Cowboy 7




You're still not listening Funches. While Jesus was on the earth in the flesh he was not here to judge anyone. Yes Jesus is the judge, but that was not his intentions while he was on Earth. He was here to fulfill the old covenant and bring forth a new. Not to judge anyone. So please I ask you stop spreading your hateful lies and twisting of words. Please listen, half a person's obligation on a forum is to listen. So please if you're going to discuss, learn what you truly are talking about.


Cowboy(s) .. sorry but everything you post is a contradction....

Cowboy(1) said that Jesus was not on Earth to Judge
Cowboy(2) said that yes Jesus is the judge
Cowboy(3) said you're not listening Funches

are you The Cowboy Version of The Trinity?

but anyway all you were trying to do was get the debate away from why Jesus failed to tell Pontious Pilate that he was the law of anything

he had a chance to tell Pilate that he had authority over Heaven and Earth but didn't do so because the logical conclusion is that he was either scare or preying on the Jews only ....and this is supposed to be the son of God?




Cowboy,, I think that Funches does listen to you , he is just very skilled at pushing your buttons and frustrating you.



as Cowboy is here to preach the bible and convert others I'm here to teach him how to do it without seeking to preach a false gospel, for my intentions are pure as my only aim is to place Cowboy heathenous ways on the path to true righteousness so that he will get into Heaven and not be tossed into the lake of fire with the other heathens .....

Cowboy can only get to God through me...funches 3:16


Glad to see you're so prideful in your greatness Funches :) hope it works out for you.

Not here for preaching nor do I do any preaching. We're in a forum to discuss our different beliefs. I merely state my beliefs, if one wishes to believe as I do or not means nothing. We're here purely for enlightened discussion.


Cowboy...that's a pretty cool disclaimer...but aren't we in a debate about how Jesus told the people to spread the word to all nations...I guess all those name Cowboy are exempt from that command


??? What are you talking about? I've NEVER been in a "debate" with you. Spreading the word and preaching are two totally different things. And I'm not necassarily doing either one of those in this forum anyways. Again, this is a forum for DISCUSSION on one's beliefs. So I come to DISCUSS my beliefs as this is the forum for that. No preaching, no spreading the word in those exact terms. Just doing as this forum is for, DISCUSSION on one's beliefs in the religion area.

josie68's photo
Mon 04/25/11 07:59 AM







as do non believers,, they just have faith in their own logic , right or wrong


MsHarmony ...by making claims that non-believers have faith is exactly why you lack it..

provide a passage from the bible where God or Jesus or even Satan states that those that don't believe have faith

if you can not find such a passage then you will understand that you mock your God by saying things like that

shame shame shame...sin sin sin

now be a nice MsHarmony and say three hell marys ...oops...er.. I meant say three "hail" marys





oh, only if I had the tendency to believe the only use of the word 'faith' is that of the bible


but , I am also educated in the common language of our times which defines faith as not ONLY pertaining to God

but

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions. 2. a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to ...


etc,,,etc,,etc,,,




MsHarmony...I'm still waiting on you to provide a passage from the bible that states that unbelievers have faith

why do believers always run to the dictionary to find definitions instead of running to the bible to find the passage that would back up what they said

or just admit that there is no such passage which means that you were mocking your God by suggesting stuff like that...wouldn't that make you an unbeliever?



nope, just makes me educated on the language of the environment in which I live


and makes you appear uneducated about the religion you base your life on ...


You don't need the bible for such knowledge.

Believers: Have faith that Jesus is the only way to God.
Unbelievers: Have faith that it is all a pack of lies.

Having faith doesn't mean you have faith something is true. Having faith in something is a feeling that what you believe is true.


Hmmm faith, Yep I have faith in God.
I have faith that he is true,
I have faith that jesus was real. I dont know why I do, maybe it was just because I have had it for so long that its a part of me..
Do I have faith that god will accept me for who I am..
Nope not anymore.

But strangely enough it doesnt make it so I can let go of him and look for something else, it doesnt mean I want to change his word.
I still love him reguardless, Im just not sure why anymore.
There are so many times that I m sure he is working in my life, but then again, what if I am just in my pretty little imaginary fairytale world.

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Mon 04/25/11 08:04 AM


Which scriptures are good?

Beating a slave to near death being O.K.
Instructions on raping female war captives
Sacrificing your daughter for military victories
killing 42 kids with bears for calling God's prophet a baldy
offering your daughter to crowd of men to be raped
having sex with your two daughters in a cave when you're drunk
Telling people to gouge out their eyes if it causes them to sin
Stoning people to death for picking up sticks
Eternal punishment for finite crimes
Killing a man because he masturbated
Invading and slaughtering entire cities
Turning the other check - NO ONE FOLLOWS THIS FOR GOOD REASON
Give away everything you own - NO ONE DOES THIS FOR GOOD REASON
etc, etc, etc




Telling people to gouge out their eyes if it causes them to sin


When the bible speaks of things such as this, it is more or less figuratively speaking. If what you see causes you to sin, then look away. If what you see is sinful activity, turn and walk away, do not partake.

And I know not what you are speaking of with the other things you mentioned. Why would no one turn the other cheek for good reason? Why would someone not give away everything they own not for good reason?



I guess turning the cheek is really hard, and I always taught my children that it was what you where supposed to do..
Until oneday when a kid came into our yard and punched my son in the face, My son just stood there, and when I asked him why, he said Mum I didnt want to hurt him.
Ok so that did not make me feel great, I sat him down and explained that it was ok to stop someone from hurting you,

Well then at school when he saw another boy hurting a girl, he went up and flattened him, he punched him out and knocked him to the ground. Now my son is very very gentle, but having seen his Dad be abusive to me, he cannot stand to see a girl hurt. But he is a huge boy, he is getting close to 6ft and is 30 pounds so its not a good idea for him to hit anyone. But at the same time, I was proud of him for stopping it.
But somewhre there has to be a balance.


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Mon 04/25/11 08:07 AM







as do non believers,, they just have faith in their own logic , right or wrong


MsHarmony ...by making claims that non-believers have faith is exactly why you lack it..

provide a passage from the bible where God or Jesus or even Satan states that those that don't believe have faith

if you can not find such a passage then you will understand that you mock your God by saying things like that

shame shame shame...sin sin sin

now be a nice MsHarmony and say three hell marys ...oops...er.. I meant say three "hail" marys





oh, only if I had the tendency to believe the only use of the word 'faith' is that of the bible


but , I am also educated in the common language of our times which defines faith as not ONLY pertaining to God

but

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions. 2. a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to ...


etc,,,etc,,etc,,,




MsHarmony...I'm still waiting on you to provide a passage from the bible that states that unbelievers have faith

why do believers always run to the dictionary to find definitions instead of running to the bible to find the passage that would back up what they said

or just admit that there is no such passage which means that you were mocking your God by suggesting stuff like that...wouldn't that make you an unbeliever?



nope, just makes me educated on the language of the environment in which I live


and makes you appear uneducated about the religion you base your life on ...


You don't need the bible for such knowledge.

Believers: Have faith that Jesus is the only way to God.
Unbelievers: Have faith that it is all a pack of lies.

Having faith doesn't mean you have faith something is true. Having faith in something is a feeling that what you believe is true.


Cowboy....you claiming that no one needs the bible for such knowledge may explain why you once believed that no babies drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark

and if I asked you for a passage from the bible that states that God place all the babies on Noah's Ark would you have also said that..."you don't need the bible for such knowledge"

which is why Cowboy I suggest to you the same as I suggested to MsHarmony...find a passage in the bible where God states that unbelievers have faith ....if you can not...then try and stop spreading false gospel ...because you're making it to difficult for me to get you into Heaven

that I an unbeliever ask you a believer for a passage from the bible and in turn make up excuses not to pick up the bible is to me pure karma

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