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Topic: Sticks and Stones
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Tue 04/26/11 07:02 AM

I said no such thing. You always act like someone's trying to convert another and or change another's views. This is a forum for DISCUSSION. Just purely enlightened discussion about one's beliefs. If someone wishes to believe as such or not, is totally up to them. No one will, can, or is trying to change another person's spiritual views in here.


Cowboy...since Jesus gave the command to his followers to spread his word...it's therefore the nature of chrisitanity to convert others .....also you make it a point to constantly remind people that they need Jesus to get to God....do you say this with the faith and hope not to convert them ......






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Tue 04/26/11 07:10 AM

And this was one of the reasonings I mentioned the theory of evolution and the theory of creation. Was an example to show that most everything in this world is believed on faith. Not just things associated with religion.


Cowboy...anything that pertains to science is called "Theory" and anything that pertains to religion is called "Belief" ....

That's why it's called "The Theory of Evolution" and a "Belief" in God...or would you perfer to called your God a theory?

Theory requires no faith just investigation

Belief requires no investigation just faith



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Tue 04/26/11 07:15 AM
Edited by funches on Tue 04/26/11 07:17 AM

Sorry to hear you delude yourself with thinking you'll eat tomorrow, I truly am. .


and Cowboy you have my condolence if you need faith because you don't understand why people eat food


Or even deluding yourself that you'll make it through the day. My condolences


Jeez dude...what's up with placing curses on people ...

but anyway the best thing about Death is, that when it comes you're already dead


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Tue 04/26/11 07:32 AM

It isn't impossible to believe in something without doubt. Sorry again to hear you live your life in doubt. Why would someone believe in it, if they have doubts about it? What would be the purpose of believing in such if you didn't believe in it in the first place. What you said there is that people appear believe in a God, to purely save themselves because they are insecure about their beliefs. They don't truly believe in the belief they have, but put it up as a protection blanket or something. That's not the way it works my friend. People believe as they believe, if they have doubts I would strongly suggest finding a different view.


Cowboy...I already asked you

if you "believe" that you exist or if you "know" that you exist

and to pick only one of the words "believe" or "know" when answering the question

remember you picked "Know".....but yet you only "believe" in God ..

that's because you have undisputable evidence of your existence but lack any to prove God's existence which is why you have doubt and why you need faith



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Tue 04/26/11 08:26 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 04/26/11 08:34 AM



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Tue 04/26/11 08:26 AM


I said no such thing. You always act like someone's trying to convert another and or change another's views. This is a forum for DISCUSSION. Just purely enlightened discussion about one's beliefs. If someone wishes to believe as such or not, is totally up to them. No one will, can, or is trying to change another person's spiritual views in here.


Cowboy...since Jesus gave the command to his followers to spread his word...it's therefore the nature of chrisitanity to convert others .....also you make it a point to constantly remind people that they need Jesus to get to God....do you say this with the faith and hope not to convert them ......








Spreading the gospel and "discussing" the gospel are totally different then trying to convert anyone. No I do not say anything to particularly convert anyone. Again, we're just discussing here my friend.

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Tue 04/26/11 08:29 AM


And this was one of the reasonings I mentioned the theory of evolution and the theory of creation. Was an example to show that most everything in this world is believed on faith. Not just things associated with religion.


Cowboy...anything that pertains to science is called "Theory" and anything that pertains to religion is called "Belief" ....

That's why it's called "The Theory of Evolution" and a "Belief" in God...or would you perfer to called your God a theory?

Theory requires no faith just investigation

Belief requires no investigation just faith





If there was no faith in the "theory" being true, why would they investigate it further? They investigate it further in hopes to find more and in faith to gain the knowledge they need of this "theory".

And what in the world are you talking about?


Belief requires no investigation just faith


Belief requires quite a bit of investigation. How would one believe in something, if they knew not what they believed in?

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Tue 04/26/11 08:34 AM


Sorry to hear you delude yourself with thinking you'll eat tomorrow, I truly am. .


and Cowboy you have my condolence if you need faith because you don't understand why people eat food


Or even deluding yourself that you'll make it through the day. My condolences


Jeez dude...what's up with placing curses on people ...

but anyway the best thing about Death is, that when it comes you're already dead





and Cowboy you have my condolence if you need faith because you don't understand why people eat food


???? What are you talking about??? Who was discussing the reason's one eats? That's a bit out in left field there bro. Faith is in the fact, you'll get to eat tomorrow. You have no absolute way to know if you will or not a head of time. You may loose your job tonight, not be able to get another one. There are many things that could happen to where you do not eat tomorrow. But you don't worry about it, cause you have FAITH you will eat tomorrow. You have faith nothing foul will go on to prevent you from eating.


Jeez dude...what's up with placing curses on people ...

but anyway the best thing about Death is, that when it comes you're already dead


Again, what in the world are you talking about? I did not once put any form of curse on you. Nor did I say you weren't going to make it to the next day. Only showing, that you have faith that you will. Or else why would you work today to survive tomorrow if you didn't have faith you'd be here? Just showing how faith works my friend.

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Tue 04/26/11 08:36 AM


It isn't impossible to believe in something without doubt. Sorry again to hear you live your life in doubt. Why would someone believe in it, if they have doubts about it? What would be the purpose of believing in such if you didn't believe in it in the first place. What you said there is that people appear believe in a God, to purely save themselves because they are insecure about their beliefs. They don't truly believe in the belief they have, but put it up as a protection blanket or something. That's not the way it works my friend. People believe as they believe, if they have doubts I would strongly suggest finding a different view.


Cowboy...I already asked you

if you "believe" that you exist or if you "know" that you exist

and to pick only one of the words "believe" or "know" when answering the question

remember you picked "Know".....but yet you only "believe" in God ..

that's because you have undisputable evidence of your existence but lack any to prove God's existence which is why you have doubt and why you need faith





No, I said I know there is a God, cause I know there is lol. Not because I believe there is. No, I don't lack any evidence of God. The evidence is in your heart my friend. Seek and ye shall find. :)

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Tue 04/26/11 09:22 AM

Spreading the gospel and "discussing" the gospel are totally different then trying to convert anyone. No I do not say anything to particularly convert anyone. Again, we're just discussing here my friend.


Cowboy...are you confessing that you are not following Jesus's command to spread the word

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Tue 04/26/11 09:32 AM

If there was no faith in the "theory" being true, why would they investigate it further? They investigate it further in hopes to find more and in faith to gain the knowledge they need of this "theory".

And what in the world are you talking about?


Cowboy "Theory" is investigated in the quest to prove it to be fact that's why it's called a theory

"Belief" demands no investigation because it would suggest that the belief is false ...in other words have anyone perform a DNA test on Jesus and Joseph

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Tue 04/26/11 09:37 AM


Spreading the gospel and "discussing" the gospel are totally different then trying to convert anyone. No I do not say anything to particularly convert anyone. Again, we're just discussing here my friend.


Cowboy...are you confessing that you are not following Jesus's command to spread the word


With spreading the word, one doesn't have to "preach". Preaching is done in churches where people go to hear "preaching". No one's preaching here, merely discussing. Which in fact still relays the message on without "preaching". As again preaching is something someone voluntarily goes to.

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Tue 04/26/11 09:38 AM

Belief requires quite a bit of investigation. How would one believe in something, if they knew not what they believed in?


well so far the investigation has lead to "Virgin" meaning a young woman and not someone that never had intercourse or sex ....blame that on "President Clinton"

but because of that ...someone other than God could have got Mary pregnant...and now Jesus could be the son of Joseph

this is generally why belief is not investigated ...because it refreshes doubt and kills faith and collapse the belief

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Tue 04/26/11 09:40 AM


If there was no faith in the "theory" being true, why would they investigate it further? They investigate it further in hopes to find more and in faith to gain the knowledge they need of this "theory".

And what in the world are you talking about?


Cowboy "Theory" is investigated in the quest to prove it to be fact that's why it's called a theory

"Belief" demands no investigation because it would suggest that the belief is false ...in other words have anyone perform a DNA test on Jesus and Joseph


Yes a belief involves investigation. No one believes something without reason. People don't just blindly follow the laws given to us by your father who art in heaven. We don't just blindly follow what's in the bible.

Again though, if they didn't have faith the "theory" was correct, why would they continue on to try to prove it fact? What would be the point in vainly investigating something they didn't feel would wind up a fact? Why would they waste their time if they had no faith in it being true?

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Tue 04/26/11 09:44 AM

???? What are you talking about??? Who was discussing the reason's one eats?


Cowboy you brought it up with your post below

Cowboy posted:
Sorry to hear you delude yourself with thinking you'll eat tomorrow, I truly am. .


Cowboy(3).. do Cowboy(1) and Cowboy(2) have short term memory loss or something....if not then can you try to keep up the what those other Cowboys have posted so that I don't have to...

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Tue 04/26/11 09:47 AM


???? What are you talking about??? Who was discussing the reason's one eats?


Cowboy you brought it up with your post below

Cowboy posted:
Sorry to hear you delude yourself with thinking you'll eat tomorrow, I truly am. .


Cowboy(3).. do Cowboy(1) and Cowboy(2) have short term memory loss or something....if not then can you try to keep up the what those other Cowboys have posted so that I don't have to...



Oooooooooook, lol. Funches you do realize I NEVER stated anything about reason one eats? Try to keep on topic my friend :).

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Tue 04/26/11 09:49 AM



It isn't impossible to believe in something without doubt. Sorry again to hear you live your life in doubt. Why would someone believe in it, if they have doubts about it? What would be the purpose of believing in such if you didn't believe in it in the first place. What you said there is that people appear believe in a God, to purely save themselves because they are insecure about their beliefs. They don't truly believe in the belief they have, but put it up as a protection blanket or something. That's not the way it works my friend. People believe as they believe, if they have doubts I would strongly suggest finding a different view.


Cowboy...I already asked you

if you "believe" that you exist or if you "know" that you exist

and to pick only one of the words "believe" or "know" when answering the question

remember you picked "Know".....but yet you only "believe" in God ..

that's because you have undisputable evidence of your existence but lack any to prove God's existence which is why you have doubt and why you need faith





No, I said I know there is a God, cause I know there is lol. Not because I believe there is. No, I don't lack any evidence of God. The evidence is in your heart my friend. Seek and ye shall find. :)


Cowboy..the questions was not about God existence the question was about your existence which mean you are lying

LIES TOLD SO FAR

Satan 0
Cowboy 8

also what evidence do you have that God is in your heart beyond it being a delusion .....generally there is only blood, plasma and a couple of valves in there

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Tue 04/26/11 09:52 AM



???? What are you talking about??? Who was discussing the reason's one eats?


Cowboy you brought it up with your post below

Cowboy posted:
Sorry to hear you delude yourself with thinking you'll eat tomorrow, I truly am. .


Cowboy(3).. do Cowboy(1) and Cowboy(2) have short term memory loss or something....if not then can you try to keep up the what those other Cowboys have posted so that I don't have to...



Oooooooooook, lol. Funches you do realize I NEVER stated anything about reason one eats? Try to keep on topic my friend :).


Cowboy...your posted suggested that you need faith to believe that people eat ...eat shouldn't have been in the conversation...you were the one that included it

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Tue 04/26/11 09:53 AM




It isn't impossible to believe in something without doubt. Sorry again to hear you live your life in doubt. Why would someone believe in it, if they have doubts about it? What would be the purpose of believing in such if you didn't believe in it in the first place. What you said there is that people appear believe in a God, to purely save themselves because they are insecure about their beliefs. They don't truly believe in the belief they have, but put it up as a protection blanket or something. That's not the way it works my friend. People believe as they believe, if they have doubts I would strongly suggest finding a different view.


Cowboy...I already asked you

if you "believe" that you exist or if you "know" that you exist

and to pick only one of the words "believe" or "know" when answering the question

remember you picked "Know".....but yet you only "believe" in God ..

that's because you have undisputable evidence of your existence but lack any to prove God's existence which is why you have doubt and why you need faith





No, I said I know there is a God, cause I know there is lol. Not because I believe there is. No, I don't lack any evidence of God. The evidence is in your heart my friend. Seek and ye shall find. :)


Cowboy..the questions was not about God existence the question was about your existence which mean you are lying

LIES TOLD SO FAR

Satan 0
Cowboy 8

also what evidence do you have that God is in your heart beyond it being a delusion .....generally there is only blood, plasma and a couple of valves in there


I'm sorry, I misread your question. Yes I know I exist. I can reach over and touch my arm. I know God exists in the same way, I have felt him.

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Tue 04/26/11 09:55 AM




???? What are you talking about??? Who was discussing the reason's one eats?


Cowboy you brought it up with your post below

Cowboy posted:
Sorry to hear you delude yourself with thinking you'll eat tomorrow, I truly am. .


Cowboy(3).. do Cowboy(1) and Cowboy(2) have short term memory loss or something....if not then can you try to keep up the what those other Cowboys have posted so that I don't have to...



Oooooooooook, lol. Funches you do realize I NEVER stated anything about reason one eats? Try to keep on topic my friend :).


Cowboy...your posted suggested that you need faith to believe that people eat ...eat shouldn't have been in the conversation...you were the one that included it


You do understand what faith is right? lol. I NEVER said or suggested that one needs faith to eat. Something you plan to do in the future is purely on faith. For you know not truly if you will be able to do that or not when the time comes. But one has faith that they will.

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