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In about 4.5 billion years, when the sun runs out of hydrogen and expands into a red giant, baking the inner planets. Of course, humans will be long gone well before that, having evolved into a kind of pasty gray substance that tastes great on crackers. 
...but who will eat the crackers? 
I will! 
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To the question: Why would a God have the need to create? I guess he was bored and just wanted some entertainment. Would that go for a viable answer? "smiles"..I guess it's a viable answer ...but you sure do make God sound like a couch potato Maybe he is laughing his ass off enjoying what we humans struggle with.  Who knows?
Yeah... We're God's Reality TV!
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Fri 12/05/08 02:06 PM
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Sky Wrote:
Isn't that like day-to-day life, really?
just add the rule that every so often the maze changes so everything you learned about the maze up to that point becomes useless and you have to start all over. Would you agree that everything "learned" in our conscious mind is based on the gathering and compiling of past memory? If everything perceived is filtered through past memory, how can we look upon it with truly fresh eyes? Do we not have the possibility of starting over in each new moment? Instead of gaining and containing memory-based knowledge, couldn't there be a possibility for a deeper knowing or "wisdom". I was considering it from a practical angle. In day-to-day life, continuity and persistence are necessary. And past memories are what give that continuity and persistence. Take something like riding a bicycle for example. When we first start learning, we fall and crash and wobble. But after some "learning", most of the actions necessary to rid the bicycle become persistent. Do we really want to look upon bicylce riding with "truly fresh eyes" every time we want to ride a bicycle to get someplace? I'm sure I don't. I would rather "contain the memory-based knowledge" of bicycle riding. On the other hand, there is of course the "deeper knowledge". In an absolute/philosophical sense, there is only NOW. In that sense, yes, we do have the possibility of starting over each and every moment. And depending on your viewpoint (i.e. beliefs), this "deeper knowledge" could ultimately comprise all knowledge in the universe. So in that sense, one could replace "remembering" with "knowing" and completely bypass the "learning" process. I was speaking from the perspective of deeper knowledge ultimately comprising all knowledge of the universe. If one could completely replace "remembering" with "knowing", thereby completely bypassing "learning", there'd be no point in coming into human existence. If this happened to all of humanity... perhaps we (humanity) would be "done". I'm happy to remember how to drive my car. It serves me in this life. Those memories that color all new incoming information with either a "good" or "bad" assessment, could be taken into consideration before making any final assumptions (in any new situation / relationship). One could get all Psychoanalytical here, but it only seems to lead one in a never-ending, tail-chasing cycle. |
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I feel ignorance is the improved version of procrastination. A procrastinator becomes an ignorant during the course of time. This problem can be rectified though. I see procrastination as already having the knowledge that some action needs to be taken and choosing to hold off on doing it. Lack of motivation, maybe... But, probably not ignorance. Once one has gained knowledge of something, can they be considered ignorant regarding that particular "something"? This is where accountability enters into the picture. habit of procrastination leads to ignorance. despite knowledge,procrastinator postpones. If it continues, this habit makes him avoid gathering other new information...and thats makes him ignorant. well, this can raise a new topic itself, which is procrastination,causes and its consequences I can see how one's procrastination could have a trickle-down effect on one gaining new knowledge. But, that person was already ignorant (not possessing said knowledge in the first place). Ignorance, in and of itself, is like a blank slate. Nothing (other than lack of knowledge) leads to it. If one fails to gather new information, that person was already ignorant. They didn't become so "after" not pursuing knowledge... They already were. Just a difference in logic... Yeah, but what made the person ignorant in the first place? It cannot be knowledge, especially with kids, it has to do with personality he or she picks up while being raised. So it passes on from parents and then you ask why the parent is ignorant it passes down again...but something creates entire generations of ignorant people, so it has to do with the way of life and the given standards and what a society would value. It also depends on what is or what is not ignorance...there can be people out there who'd call you ignorant because they aren't getting enough attention so they need to blame others for their own failure, whatever that might be. LACK of knowledge. No knowledge input as of yet = ignorance. How can we condemn someone for not yet knowing? We're ALL ignorant to varying degrees. |
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Sky Wrote: just add the rule that every so often the maze changes so everything you learned about the maze up to that point becomes useless and you have to start all over. Isn't that like day-to-day life, really? Would you agree that everything "learned" in our conscious mind is based on the gathering and compiling of past memory? If everything perceived is filtered through past memory, how can we look upon it with truly fresh eyes? Do we not have the possibility of starting over in each new moment? Instead of gaining and containing memory-based knowledge, couldn't there be a possibility for a deeper knowing or "wisdom". |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Thu 12/04/08 12:02 PM
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I feel ignorance is the improved version of procrastination. A procrastinator becomes an ignorant during the course of time. This problem can be rectified though. I see procrastination as already having the knowledge that some action needs to be taken and choosing to hold off on doing it. Lack of motivation, maybe... But, probably not ignorance. Once one has gained knowledge of something, can they be considered ignorant regarding that particular "something"? This is where accountability enters into the picture. habit of procrastination leads to ignorance. despite knowledge,procrastinator postpones. If it continues, this habit makes him avoid gathering other new information...and thats makes him ignorant. well, this can raise a new topic itself, which is procrastination,causes and its consequences I can see how one's procrastination could have a trickle-down effect on one gaining new knowledge. But, that person was already ignorant (not possessing said knowledge in the first place). Ignorance, in and of itself, is like a blank slate. Nothing (other than lack of knowledge) leads to it. If one fails to gather new information, that person was already ignorant. They didn't become so "after" not pursuing knowledge... They already were. Just a difference in logic... |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Thu 12/04/08 11:30 AM
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I feel ignorance is the improved version of procrastination. A procrastinator becomes an ignorant during the course of time. This problem can be rectified though. I see procrastination as already having the knowledge that some action needs to be taken and choosing to hold off on doing it. Lack of motivation, maybe... But, probably not ignorance. Once one has gained knowledge of something, can they be considered ignorant regarding that particular "something"? This is where accountability enters into the picture. |
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wow i am gone for a day and look what happens. I agree with splendid that ignorance as a whole is just a lack of knowledge and understanding. My focus with this thread was to get everyone's thoughts as to whether being ignorant was a choice we make or something that is ingrained into us. I even leave it open for it to be a combination. My main question is how do we break such trends in ourselves and in our society as a whole? 
Perhaps it could start with each of us individually... How often within any given day does one see something another does and perceive it as completely ignorant? TNTC (to numerous to count), right? 
If we could begin slowly by first noticing our own perceptions (when they arise) of ignorance in others and remember that ignorance as a whole is just a lack of knowledge and understanding... Perhaps our condemnation of others (to hide our own lack of acceptance of our own ignorance) could begin to dissipate. It probably needs to begin with acknowledging and sort-of accepting our own ignorance, ultimately leading to a self-forbearance. Easier said than done... Yet, once its been done just a few times, one would begin to want more of that feeling of relief after having passed through acknowledgment, acceptance and forbearance. We may also be able to break the trends by starting the conversation with who ever may be around us when an example arises. We ask others if they can (not necessarily agree to) see this perspective. |
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he felt the need to create because..... (sings)He's so ronrey, so ronery and brue. (team America refrence) Gihad, Gihad, Mohamed! lol durka durka durka You are worthress Arec Barrwin! |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Wed 12/03/08 07:24 PM
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Transforming for those that put love before anything else for the others an eternity in a hell of their own creation.Watch the movie[ what dreams may come ]( with robin williams) every one connected to that movie has now doubt that this the next life and the personal hell the others create. LOVE that movie... What if EVERYONE gets to "transform"? |
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he felt the need to create because..... (sings)He's so ronrey, so ronery and brue. (team America refrence) Gihad, Gihad, Mohamed! |
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Topic:
Angels with "swords"?
Edited by
splendidlife
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Wed 12/03/08 07:37 PM
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Angels like french fries. You can lure them to earth this way. All this time I thought it was lil' glow-sticks tied to a long pieces of string. D'oh! 
(Burning Man Reference) |
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If you have not noticed in cultures all over the world there is a foreseen future event that many prophets have forseen that they all describe which is startellingly the same even though none of these prophets existed in the same time or place. All of them describe all life as we know it ending. Well to my best knowledge life as most people know it is physical. The only life left is one of energy and I felt that place and it is 100% love. so there lies the that need to always put love before anything else to live in a place of 100% love nothing can be more important It’s quite noticeable... The question is... ...is life ending or transforming? I've not heard the idea that this could be the last incarnation. At least not put quite in those words. Is this something you deducted based on the assembly of multiple prophecies? |
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I'm curious about the idea (if I'm reading you correctly) that this is the last reincarnation. I don't doubt per se, but wonder from where this idea came. an entity known by many names by many peoples thru out all time (god,jesus,allah,gia,ext.) there is a place in every seperated slanting book with this exact statement. It is a shame that its there in every religion but because of peoples need to be some how better in some respect that this one true law is not followed by all . If it was we all would still living a physical life in complete and total peace. There's a feeling I get that this generation is monumental in the cycle of humanity (not that all others haven't been as well). Could you please clarirfy what you mean about "last reincarnation"? |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Wed 12/03/08 01:00 PM
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We live in an age of instant news and where knowledge resides just beyond the click of the mouse. With all this knowledge available to us why is the united states so far behind other nations in education? What is it that is holding our students back? Is ignorance a choice like my grandfather suggested and we as a people are choosing to limit our knowledge and understanding? Or perhaps it something in our culture and society that persists in keeping us from reaching our full potential? Let me know what you all think. In some instances for me it's a choice.. In my field of work I have learned that I don't really know what is going on in the world, I only know what the media thinks I should or wants me to know.. so unless I can find out on my own, I would rather know nothing at all then what they want me to believe.. I might catch bits and pieces here or there but I don't trust it fully...
 In other instances, I like hearing another person's point of view and I'm open to their ideas and beliefs, rather than just be ignorant and close-minded. I think the easy access to information on the internet is great and being able to research whatever my heart desires. But anyone can post anything on the internet, how reliable is all that information that your trusting to expand your knowledge... I think this is a very good point. As Splendid said, ignorance is simply lack of knowledge. And if the only source of knowledge you have is feeding you biased or slanted information, ignorance is not so much a choice as it is a result of unreliable sources. Another factor is the educational system itself. I believe that the "no child left behind" mindset is in large part responsible. Graduating a student just to keep them in the same social clique is counter productive. The actual result is a functionally illiterate citizen that is more of a burden to society than an asset. So instead of "leaving them behind" for a couple years in their youth, you "leave them behind" for their entire adult life. And of course there are "learning disabilities". Some of which are validly inabilities to assimilate information. And some of which are simply the product of an inability to teach effectively. We watch our Society "leaving people behind" and diagnosing popular "disabilities" (Learning Disability, ADHD, Bipolar Disorder, etc.) resulting in citizens being kept continuously dependent upon Social "Services" as a repeating pattern from generation to generation. Social Service Agencies contribute only enough monetary assistance to barely survive and little to no further education, resulting in further breakdown of the system (i.e. illegal sales of prescription drugs to "get by" w/ legal ramifications) and little to no viable programs in place to break the cycle. For some, staying "ignorant" (in this context) seems the only way to subsist. But: If two or more citizens recognize this pattern, perhaps the next step is in creative invention of ideas leading to viable solutions?
I think the only true solution to the problem is to remove the incentive. If we reward a thing, we get more of it. If we reward ignorance, we get more ignorance. By rewarding it we are actually encouraging its increase. By supporting peoplefor the sole reason that they are ignorant, we are, in fact, supporting ignorance. Now I'm not saying that removing the incentive would be an easy thing to do. The take-from-the-rich-to-give-to-the-poor welfare mentality is the "squeakiest wheel" in our entire socio-political system. And as such is the most difficult to change. But the fact is that the problem will continue to persist unless and until that "reward ignorance" practice changes. Pharmaceutical Companies get richer while perpetuating the cycle by pushing medications to "treat" what could, in "reality", only fall under the heading of Social Dis-Ease. I mean... Have you seen the latest Abilify commercial?! "If your anti-depressant isn't enough..." Powerful Pharmaceutical Companies would seem to have an agenda to perpetuate this cycle.  Splendid
And on the flip side of that same coin, the psychiapriests who make up these dis-eases out of thin air, collect a tidy fee for doing nothing more effective than listening to symptoms for a few minutes and then prescribing these drugs - claiming that they "correct a chemical imbalance" but without ever doing any chemical tests. And to top it off, they have the unmitigated audacity to call their profession "scientific". Pfooey!  
(Om Mani Padme Hum) Indeed! Psychiatry: Part Alchemy, part Malarkey and just a smidgen Scientific. Psychiatrists can be loose cannons with regard to prescribing medications. Imagine my frustration today from having studied this "science", participated in the administering of this paradigm and these medications with the blind belief that I was "helping". There are so many well-intentioned people still actively greasing the wheel of this machine with little to no understanding of the possible ramifications. |
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I live by one and the only simple law. one must not let anything come before love because if it does it will put man against man.we are in school to learn this in physical life and come back until we do . It took me 9 times from the time before time till now, and for those that don't get it this time reincarnation to learn is gone. Besides that those that can't believe any/everthing is possible never will. I believe the sci-fi reality show ghost hunters has absolutely proven the afterlife all you have to do is watch the episodes for all 2008. this proves that there is living energy with individual free will & thought. I'm curious about the idea (if I'm reading you correctly) that this is the last reincarnation. I don't doubt per se, but wonder from where this idea came. |
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We live in an age of instant news and where knowledge resides just beyond the click of the mouse. With all this knowledge available to us why is the united states so far behind other nations in education? What is it that is holding our students back? Is ignorance a choice like my grandfather suggested and we as a people are choosing to limit our knowledge and understanding? Or perhaps it something in our culture and society that persists in keeping us from reaching our full potential? Let me know what you all think. In some instances for me it's a choice.. In my field of work I have learned that I don't really know what is going on in the world, I only know what the media thinks I should or wants me to know.. so unless I can find out on my own, I would rather know nothing at all then what they want me to believe.. I might catch bits and pieces here or there but I don't trust it fully...
In other instances, I like hearing another person's point of view and I'm open to their ideas and beliefs, rather than just be ignorant and close-minded. I think the easy access to information on the internet is great and being able to research whatever my heart desires. But anyone can post anything on the internet, how reliable is all that information that your trusting to expand your knowledge... I think this is a very good point. As Splendid said, ignorance is simply lack of knowledge. And if the only source of knowledge you have is feeding you biased or slanted information, ignorance is not so much a choice as it is a result of unreliable sources. Another factor is the educational system itself. I believe that the "no child left behind" mindset is in large part responsible. Graduating a student just to keep them in the same social clique is counter productive. The actual result is a functionally illiterate citizen that is more of a burden to society than an asset. So instead of "leaving them behind" for a couple years in their youth, you "leave them behind" for their entire adult life. And of course there are "learning disabilities". Some of which are validly inabilities to assimilate information. And some of which are simply the product of an inability to teach effectively. We watch our Society "leaving people behind" and diagnosing popular "disabilities" (Learning Disability, ADHD, Bipolar Disorder, etc.) resulting in citizens being kept continuously dependent upon Social "Services" as a repeating pattern from generation to generation. Social Service Agencies contribute only enough monetary assistance to barely survive and little to no further education, resulting in further breakdown of the system (i.e. illegal sales of prescription drugs to "get by" w/ legal ramifications) and little to no viable programs in place to break the cycle. For some, staying "ignorant" (in this context) seems the only way to subsist. But: If two or more citizens recognize this pattern, perhaps the next step is in creative invention of ideas leading to viable solutions?
I think the only true solution to the problem is to remove the incentive. If we reward a thing, we get more of it. If we reward ignorance, we get more ignorance. By rewarding it we are actually encouraging its increase. By supporting peoplefor the sole reason that they are ignorant, we are, in fact, supporting ignorance. Now I'm not saying that removing the incentive would be an easy thing to do. The take-from-the-rich-to-give-to-the-poor welfare mentality is the "squeakiest wheel" in our entire socio-political system. And as such is the most difficult to change. But the fact is that the problem will continue to persist unless and until that "reward ignorance" practice changes. There are some major players involved (like Pharmaceutical Companies) that stand to gain from the take-from-the-rich-to-give-to-the-poor welfare mentality... As long as Medicaid foots the bill: Pharmaceutical Companies get richer while perpetuating the cycle by pushing medications to "treat" what could, in "reality", only fall under the heading of Social Dis-Ease. I mean... Have you seen the latest Abilify commercial?! "If your anti-depressant isn't enough..." Powerful Pharmaceutical Companies would seem to have an agenda to perpetuate this cycle. |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Wed 12/03/08 11:04 AM
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We live in an age of instant news and where knowledge resides just beyond the click of the mouse. With all this knowledge available to us why is the united states so far behind other nations in education? What is it that is holding our students back? Is ignorance a choice like my grandfather suggested and we as a people are choosing to limit our knowledge and understanding? Or perhaps it something in our culture and society that persists in keeping us from reaching our full potential? Let me know what you all think. In some instances for me it's a choice.. In my field of work I have learned that I don't really know what is going on in the world, I only know what the media thinks I should or wants me to know.. so unless I can find out on my own, I would rather know nothing at all then what they want me to believe.. I might catch bits and pieces here or there but I don't trust it fully...
In other instances, I like hearing another person's point of view and I'm open to their ideas and beliefs, rather than just be ignorant and close-minded. I think the easy access to information on the internet is great and being able to research whatever my heart desires. But anyone can post anything on the internet, how reliable is all that information that your trusting to expand your knowledge... I think this is a very good point. As Splendid said, ignorance is simply lack of knowledge. And if the only source of knowledge you have is feeding you biased or slanted information, ignorance is not so much a choice as it is a result of unreliable sources. Another factor is the educational system itself. I believe that the "no child left behind" mindset is in large part responsible. Graduating a student just to keep them in the same social clique is counter productive. The actual result is a functionally illiterate citizen that is more of a burden to society than an asset. So instead of "leaving them behind" for a couple years in their youth, you "leave them behind" for their entire adult life. And of course there are "learning disabilities". Some of which are validly inabilities to assimilate information. And some of which are simply the product of an inability to teach effectively. We watch our Society "leaving people behind" and diagnosing popular "disabilities" (Learning Disability, ADHD, Bipolar Disorder, etc.) resulting in citizens being kept continuously dependent upon Social "Services" as a repeating pattern from generation to generation. Social Service Agencies contribute only enough monetary assistance to barely survive and little to no further education, resulting in further breakdown of the system (i.e. illegal sales of prescription drugs to "get by" w/ legal ramifications) and little to no viable programs in place to break the cycle. For some, staying "ignorant" (in this context) seems the only way to subsist. I know... A bit Off Topic... But: If two or more citizens recognize this pattern, perhaps the next step is in creative invention of ideas leading to viable solutions? |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Wed 12/03/08 10:04 AM
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We live in an age of instant news and where knowledge resides just beyond the click of the mouse. With all this knowledge available to us why is the united states so far behind other nations in education? What is it that is holding our students back? Is ignorance a choice like my grandfather suggested and we as a people are choosing to limit our knowledge and understanding? Or perhaps it something in our culture and society that persists in keeping us from reaching our full potential? Let me know what you all think. In some instances for me it's a choice.. In my field of work I have learned that I don't really know what is going on in the world, I only know what the media thinks I should or wants me to know.. so unless I can find out on my own, I would rather know nothing at all then what they want me to believe.. I might catch bits and pieces here or there but I don't trust it fully...
In other instances, I like hearing another person's point of view and I'm open to their ideas and beliefs, rather than just be ignorant and close-minded. I think the easy access to information on the internet is great and being able to research whatever my heart desires. But anyone can post anything on the internet, how reliable is all that information that your trusting to expand your knowledge... I think this is a very good point. As Splendid said, ignorance is simply lack of knowledge. And if the only source of knowledge you have is feeding you biased or slanted information, ignorance is not so much a choice as it is a result of unreliable sources. Another factor is the educational system itself. I believe that the "no child left behind" mindset is in large part responsible. Graduating a student just to keep them in the same social clique is counter productive. The actual result is a functionally illiterate citizen that is more of a burden to society than an asset. So instead of "leaving them behind" for a couple years in their youth, you "leave them behind" for their entire adult life. And of course there are "learning disabilities". Some of which are validly inabilities to assimilate information. And some of which are simply the product of an inability to teach effectively. We watch our Society "leaving people behind" and diagnosing popular "disabilities" (Learning Disability, ADHD, Bipolar Disorder, etc.) resulting in citizens being kept continuously dependent upon Social "Services" as a repeating pattern from generation to generation. Social Service Agencies contribute only enough monetary assistance to barely survive and little to no further education, resulting in further breakdown of the system (i.e. illegal sales of prescription drugs to "get by" w/ legal ramifications) and little to no viable programs in place to break the cycle. For some, staying "ignorant" (in this context) seems the only way to subsist. |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Wed 12/03/08 08:50 AM
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To own a traditional German bakery in Vienna, Austria shaped like a gingerbread house and give away candy canes to children each day. To be able to make the softest mouth watering delicious sweets that man can put their mouths on. I realized that no matter what one believes in, what language one speaks, or what nationality one represents, eating good food is the true peacemaker that brings peace to our world. So yes a Gingerbread house with a huge chocolate castle 6 feet tall at the show window. Also the coffee smells so good that people two blocks away can smell it and get instantly hypnotized to come to the GingerBread house. And children always get one free treat everyday when visiting me. Okay enough dreaming, back to work for me
Yay, Smiless! I just had a dream three nights ago that I was in Paris, living in the most fantastic 19th Century Victorian warehouse-sized bakery! |
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