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What IS the creator...?
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Its a matter of perspective. Nobody knows what created our creator... or if there is even such a thing as a creator. We won't know til we die, but until then we'd better live like someone is watching just to be safe 
This sentiment makes me feel as if we're all just living in some sort of ant farm. 
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GOOGLE IT: JobMarket2009.wmv (4875KB) Funny... Scary... Sad... |
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your reference to seeing someone snoring and they deny it, yes that has happened before, though I don't see any relevance to what's being discussed. Maybe you thought I said the individual wasn't sleeping. Indeed the individual is sleeping. This does not at all suggest any loss of credibility to the experience. It seems maybe you believe it totally discredits everything, though I can't see how it would. yea, the person will say it wasn't "just" a dream, but they were in that sleep state, but something was going on. Like I stated before, up to you whether you want to take into consideration that sleep and it's involved mechanisms aren't only used for 1 thing. There's even scientific proof that sleep and death are intertwined with each other through components that occur during REM sleep, and when a human has a NDE. Proven fact already...I'm pretty sure you are already aware of that though... but you see, it is very different, because no one is guessing. Very big difference. People just say what they see, nothing more, nothing less. It has not to deal with any guess work, just what a person experiences and views. They don't describe what they think they seen, they describe what they did see. Evidently, what they see, really was there. No opposing argument for that. It is what it is. A person can try so hard to give a "rational" answer to something they can't really explain, when the most rational answer is already present If you're convinced in your own mind already of what you believe those experiences to be, that's fine though. Obviously so am I...and I've done the homework...it is what it is...that's all...from my experience of discussing this matter with others, I've only come to realize that many who are in such disbelief, are jealous because they haven't had such experiences, or instead of being fascinated become angry because they can't explain it...I never understood why people react such a way...it isn't as if someone is claiming they spoke to some magnificent being thought to be some god or anything...they're just saying what they experienced, its relevance to reality, and that the experience really happened and even they themselves can't explain it besides say it happened, and that's that. now if someone says they popped out of their body, and found themselves on a different plane that is alien to humans..well then...that is an entirely different discussion in itself...I'm only speaking of that in the human physical plane we all share and experience. It's the only experience that has concrete proof you can touch. From a human perspective, the only "truth" is that which has actually happened or actually been experienced... based on individual memory. Those who completely discount these experiences will not be made to see them as valid unless they themselves actually experience it. |
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Topic:
"The Observer"
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Yes, Brownian motion is the movement of atoms. Rocks in the desert no clue. 
if all matter is energy... then energy can vibrate to create the appearance of things. If I am vibrating energetically at a certain level to be 'human'... why can I not vibrate at a higher level and be a tree? I am still energy... and if one follows the collective consciousness route... then I am not inanimate as a tree, as I am still a part of the collective consciousness. Nope. Energy is not matter, matter is not energy. There are three terms in this equation. E= Energy M= Mass c= speed of light E=Mc^2 Energy can be changed into Matter but requires c^2, its not an even E = M It amazes me that whole new religions are sprouting up out of a partial understandings of nature. I guess it shouldn't. After all I fix computers to pay my way through college, and the biggest thing that breaks computers is people thinking they know what they are doing. Matter vibrating does not create things. Matter vibrating can cause the emission of light, due to the electrons in the atoms causing a vibration of the electromagnetic field. This is not what you are talking about. I will say it again matter vibrating does not create, nor give properties to materials. Atomic bonds, the shape of molecules, the nature of electrons, the energy associated with the location of the electron all dictates the properties of a substance that an object may be built from. Vibrate a tree all you want, at most it will catch fire. Energy manipulates matter into shape/structure to create the object, be it rock or human body. |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Mon 11/17/08 08:53 AM
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It depends on what you perceive sleep to really be. Is sleep just a waste of time that serves as a shutdown mode for human beings to operate better after the systems reboot?...or could the same mechanisms involved in sleep serve a deeper purpose that most human beings don't know about?...or is it possible that it can be both? I believe sleep to be one of the most powerful natural meditation states a human being can be in. However if you can't control it, or if you are simply "falling" asleep...then it just turns into shutdown mode to re-cooperate... though I do understand where you are coming from funches...if really a human being was intending to meditate, and has such an incredible experience...and say you are sitting right next to this person who is having such an intense experience...you only notice this person passed out/sleeping drooling on his arm....it would be easy to say hey man....you were just having a crazy dream, nothing more. but when considering an OBE...if that person can recall his/her surroundings and something that occurred OUTSIDE of the bodies placement ;ie- say he has the experience, and notices someone is about to walk up to your door step then when the person having the OBE tells you, nah man it was more than a dream, I seen John riding his red bike coming to our house, he was wearing a black shirt with a skull logo on it and some blue jeans..then a minute or two afterwords John actually shows up in the said conditions...well then...was it really just a dream? New knowledge attained would be simply the experience itself..over time...the individual may be able to have such experiences purposely when before the person may have only accidentally stumbled upon such an experience connected to sleep. the experience has been shared with many individuals...it's obvious these people aren't simply dreaming, something really is happening. I stated before...it's usefulness is subject to the user [person experiencing it]... does it do any good or serve a purpose? Kind of up to you I tend to agree that the same mechanisms involved in sleep serve a much greater purpose than just providing the body rest and I base this on actual experience. I'm fascinated with subconscious processes occurring during deep sleep dreaming. Therefore, any discussion involving REM Sleep and EMDR always piques my interest. The idea that we could consciously access the subconscious gets me all fired up. However, I then remember that our conscious mind must first somehow be in alignment with the subconscious. I believe that the reason we can have these experiences while in deep sleep is because our conscious mind is on pause (not running or trying to run the show). This would suggest that we are incapable of utilizing our conscious mind to access this deeper or higher consciousness. One would think that Science would have found the key by now. Science exists in conscious thought. If our conscious mind allows a mere 10% existence, only utilizing a fraction of what we are capable, some sort of shift in consciousness would be necessary. This I see as possible... Just don't have a clue as to how. Somehow, "Religion" (or Spirituality) and Science would need to unite rather than disprove one another. To some, this may just seem like I'm babbling the same as usual. So be it. At least I can feel as if I'm pointed in a direction that seems possible. |
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Funches to JB your higher self isn't all that higher This quote is an all-time favorite... Brings it home that it isn't all that impossible to attain. That's right. My "higher self" is here now, living within me. It is me. Precisely... and let's not forget the holy spirit Boo! 
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Funches to JB your higher self isn't all that higher This quote is an all-time favorite... Brings it home that it isn't all that impossible to attain. That's right. My "higher self" is here now, living within me. It is me. wasn't that the quote from the exorcist?... as "Spendidlife" might say.. bring it home ...but anyway "JennieBean" you are making it up as you go...but as I said if your higher self is within you now then both of your selves are stuck in limbo neither one learning or excelling That is only your unqualified opinion. You have no idea what I have learned. You are just being annoying. Goodbye. Don't go, JB... Isn't the only way to do life to make it up as we go, so to speak? How else would be able to continue to learn. We don't make it up out of thin air. It comes from being open enough to allow new information in. I salute that. |
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Funches to JB your higher self isn't all that higher This quote is an all-time favorite... Brings it home that it isn't all that impossible to attain. That's right. My "higher self" is here now, living within me. It is me. Precisely... |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Sun 11/16/08 06:49 PM
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I have some daja vu's when i travel around this county.it happens in my waking hr's that's creepy. Yes its real I say ive been here befor. to myself. Dang im a beliver,but when and as what something. Tells me it could be jus possible that some folks. Are throw-backs from some where eles in time and. We know we been there befor. and with me the feeling's so strong!I aknowledge it! i feel if you don't you'll be so lost and you won't have a Reson to be in this era.It used to be scay as a child but my aunt was a Medium she knew i was an old soul. she passed away two years ago!I miss our talks about this subject? its deep! Hay thanks for the post its an interestingSubject! Koolaidwoman you got it going on jus remember that!Mr you must be a heavy dude in a good way. I enjoy talking to the gifted!.TC of you Koolaid.  
If Deja Vu is like a flash of concentrated data from the sub conscious mind or higher self, imagine how much more concentrated information we aren't taking in? Is it really memory? Sure feels like that... or a vision of something in the future. I believe that this vast reservoir (bridged by the "sub conscious") is where answers reside and that we're not given the whole picture in order to focus specifically on the lessons in front of us (within a particular lifetime). Information from previous "lessons" would clog our perception of current data. Perhaps a time is coming in which we will have further access to this vast knowing. Of course I don't know how. If we can access it in our dreams, its got to be because our conscious minds aren't at that time running the show (while we sleep). So... that would mean that some sort of shift in "consciousness" would probably need to occur. Will dramatic circumstances have to be the cause of this sort of shift? Or... are these very discussions somehow "helping" move us closer toward the shift? |
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You just want to be awkward, is it? It's not the same to learn something or to be talented to do the same thing, it's a huge difference. Even you should see that. 
"Invisible" what would you keep coming back for ...to learn or be talented at what? ..for what purpose when in the end all you will do is stay on the same level But you don't. If you do as you are told, in your next life you might be a genius
reincarnation sounds more like an addiction to come back Aren't we addicted to hope? |
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Funches to JB
your higher self isn't all that higher This quote is an all-time favorite... Brings it home that it isn't all that impossible to attain. |
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Topic:
I'M SORRY
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Dear boy...
You are a true friend when you freely express your opinions and beliefs. If you are feeling sarcastic, perhaps at the time you are meant to express it. I mean... A friend wishes to hear all from a loved one (even that which could be perceived as negative, even hurtful). If sometimes feelings get hurt, perhaps that is exactly what was meant to happen. I've never experienced you as going out of your way to be hurtful. I've come to trust that you will express yourself with integrity. Don't go changin' 
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do you think i would honestly want to play this game if not necessary? gheeeeesh
Yes you would. You did. You are here. Why does a soul (higher self) choose to play the game? The same reason we watch movies. Entertainment and adventure. Spirits absolutely LOVE GAMES with a passion. Why do people climb mountains? (They could fall and kill themselves) Why do people ski or para-sail or ride horses, or hunt wild game, or gamble, or play cards, or play the slot machines. Why do people play and watch sports? THEY LOVE GAMES. GOD LOVES THE GAME! Why is computer gaming a multi billion dollar business? PEOPLE LOVE GAMES. It is all about the game Tribo. You came for the game. Learn what it is all about and stop whining.  
Sorry JB, i think the game is what stps us from finding out the real meaning of this whole thing, peope become so absorbed in taking their mind off of whats really happening, they cant see what is happening. Thats not the ghame as you call it - its what keeps us from the truth and dont bother asking me what truth is -
In one respect you are correct. Part of the game is to keep the truth hidden. The truth that this is a game is one of the things that is kept hidden at all cost. That is why this reality is full of lies and deceptions everywhere. But everything boils down to either a game or an interesting story (mystery, drama, etc.) that is for entertainment. One experience I've had suggests that it IS a game is that, when people get close to death, they seem to either gain back a free sense of humor or express one that may have never been fully expressed. My mom, for example... In life, she was always funny, but not like my dad. My dad expressed and still expresses this dark kind of urbane humor. My mom didn't have to try, but still stood in the shadows of my dad's antics. In the few days just before she died, she was free and funny... Really funny. People came from all over the hospital to visit her. She was like a magnet. Three weeks after her death, I gave birth to my daughter (now about to turn 3). In the delivery room, I felt my mom's presence (to me it was undeniable). As if she filled every square inch of that room. Everything became funny to me. Every word I said... Every word said to me. It felt as if my mom and I had this sort of private joke going during the whole labor. Earlier, when I had first arrived at the hospital, the woman in admissions was really short with me. The father of my girl ("husband") was quite inpatient and nasty with me. As I was sobbing on my way into the delivery room, I said: "I want my mom!" Seconds later, this calm came over me and I began to laugh. I know this doesn't count as "proof" to anyone else. That day, I got that it was/is a game. At least that's what I "felt" my mother conveying. |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Sat 11/15/08 04:15 PM
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[hmmm? neve mind, im scared of the answer}
As you should be, my dear... As you should.  
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HI SL- answer me this please - If as Buddhist believe - that if you step on a bug you have earned bad karma that will end up having you to re-incarnate again, how do you suppose anyone will ever escape the cycle? again - if as a child, you do something that would inflict this state of bad karma on you before you reach the age of reason or understanding - how can you escape the recycling program? What is it that Buddha learned that we seem not to be able to? if he tells what it is he learned then why do you/they/whomever not just follow in his footsteps and stop the program from re-occurring? How does anyone know if they have been reincarnated, what evidence is there? here again, i see it as no more than another man made religion - sorry Faith based belief in something not tangible. all you posted and answered as you yourself said - "guesses. JB talks of trillions of souls just biting at the bit to get a chance to come here and play the earth game of life - are all these entities then so bored that this is better than where they are? if so then it sounds like hell to me not some release from rebirth like Buddha's nirvana is supposed to be. give me your definition of this nirvana please, [you to if you read this JB] - what is this ultimate nirvana that all can reach by playing life here on earth? bottom line - if all spirits are so desirous of playing here can you, when there, opt out of existence with your "free will"? what are the rules since you know so much about it to respond to me the way you have? i don't like playing games unless someone explains the rules - or do we just make them up as we go? if so then my rules is for it all to stop!! Personally, I think that "good" and "bad" karma is a man-made concept. People ask me if I'm Buddhist when I express my opposition to stepping on a bug. For me, it has nothing to do with any concern of some sort of tally of what I've done bad or good and some long-term outcome or judgment of all of my actions this time around and even other times around. I consider each living being (be it bug, deer or human) a piece of the whole picture. Is this indicative of some fear of altering that "whole picture"? Is this what prompts me to protect? At least at this point, I don't think so. Is it that, when I was young, I had loved ones very close to me die and that I now place extra value on all things living? Maybe... Is it that today I am the sum of all of my experiences? Sure... This cycle you speak of is but one interpretation out of countless interpretations. Can we escape interpretation? As humans, perhaps we are coming closer to a time of less interpretation based on human conscious thinking and more receptivity to boundless knowing gained from an infinite pool of knowing since the beginning of... whatever we call THIS. I know I'm not giving solid answers to your questions. I'm just continuously feeling around this life as a blind person just now learning how to read braille. What if, as human beings in this current age, we are all as children who haven't reached this so-called "age of reason". How could anything hold us accountable as to inflict "bad karma"? Again... to me this seems man-made. Who says we're NOT learning what "Buddha" learned? Who's to say that Buddha's learning doesn't represent what every single individual learns? Perhaps the moment we try to "apply" any teaching, we are automatically no longer in our own learning. Guess this a more "Zen" approach. There's no evidence to "prove" reincarnation. How can the intangible be proven? I never said that all spirits were so desirous of playing here. I'm not sure if "desire" even enters into the equation. Perhaps a "souls" complete experience MUST include the physical plane experience ("Earth School"). I'd almost be willing to bet that boredom isn't what drives the soul to enter into this realm. When the discussion of "free will" comes up, I usually slip out the side door and check out. I have no clue about any rules. ""Personally, I think that "good" and "bad" karma is a man-made concept. tkae it up with buddha, its not my idea.
Okay... He's downstairs on the couch, probably in RPM (Rapid Paw Movement) as we speak. Buddha just turned 4 years old... He's a 75 pound, half Dobie, half Shar Pei cross. |
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do you think i would honestly want to play this game if not necessary? gheeeeesh Ouch!!
Tribo....what is your soul purpose? WOW i'm not sure how to answer that - do you mean the purpose of my soul? or my endeavor to understand? or my intentions here today? or why i'm here? or my interst in rythm and blues music? All of it... I am curious. What comes up in you with that question? I mean exactly what I wrote.... how you interpret it, is your perception of you.
i dont have a perception of me - just ask funches or jb - im not sure i exist!! -
but if i do i dont like the fact i was not asked if i wanted to play or join the team or even tryout for it. How do you know you didn't put yourself on the waiting list to participate? |
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This brings up the whole issue of - "why, if were able to re-incarnate and come back here, why should we choose to came back as no more intelligent or wise than we were before?
Have you ever played the same game more than once? Monopoly? Gin? Baseball? If so, why did you not choose to start the game with more money or more cards or more points? If you chose to come back and play the same game over and over again, then it was your choice and the only one who knows for sure why you made that choice is you. But if i can only know and make that choice when im not here then it is not really a choice - games here played over and over are either out of boredom or love of the game - but that is both by choice - if when here i'm not aware of the choice it is not a real choice - if when I'm there if I'm not aware of what the game will consist of here then there is no real choice. its a catch 22 do you think i would honestly want to play this game if not necessary? gheeeeesh I would guess that it is "necessary". We're just not given the total picture of why. As we don't have the picture of the non-physical while in this physical realm, perhaps we are not given the picture of the physical realm while in the non-physical. One can only know light when given the experience of dark with which to compare the light... Right? |
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HI SL- answer me this please - If as Buddhist believe - that if you step on a bug you have earned bad karma that will end up having you to re-incarnate again, how do you suppose anyone will ever escape the cycle? again - if as a child, you do something that would inflict this state of bad karma on you before you reach the age of reason or understanding - how can you escape the recycling program? What is it that Buddha learned that we seem not to be able to? if he tells what it is he learned then why do you/they/whomever not just follow in his footsteps and stop the program from re-occurring? How does anyone know if they have been reincarnated, what evidence is there? here again, i see it as no more than another man made religion - sorry Faith based belief in something not tangible. all you posted and answered as you yourself said - "guesses. JB talks of trillions of souls just biting at the bit to get a chance to come here and play the earth game of life - are all these entities then so bored that this is better than where they are? if so then it sounds like hell to me not some release from rebirth like Buddha's nirvana is supposed to be. give me your definition of this nirvana please, [you to if you read this JB] - what is this ultimate nirvana that all can reach by playing life here on earth? bottom line - if all spirits are so desirous of playing here can you, when there, opt out of existence with your "free will"? what are the rules since you know so much about it to respond to me the way you have? i don't like playing games unless someone explains the rules - or do we just make them up as we go? if so then my rules is for it all to stop!! Personally, I think that "good" and "bad" karma is a man-made concept. People ask me if I'm Buddhist when I express my opposition to stepping on a bug. For me, it has nothing to do with any concern of some sort of tally of what I've done bad or good and some long-term outcome or judgment of all of my actions this time around and even other times around. I consider each living being (be it bug, deer or human) a piece of the whole picture. Is this indicative of some fear of altering that "whole picture"? Is this what prompts me to protect? At least at this point, I don't think so. Is it that, when I was young, I had loved ones very close to me die and that I now place extra value on all things living? Maybe... Is it that today I am the sum of all of my experiences? Sure... This cycle you speak of is but one interpretation out of countless interpretations. Can we escape interpretation? As humans, perhaps we are coming closer to a time of less interpretation based on human conscious thinking and more receptivity to boundless knowing gained from an infinite pool of knowing since the beginning of... whatever we call THIS. I know I'm not giving solid answers to your questions. I'm just continuously feeling around this life as a blind person just now learning how to read braille. What if, as human beings in this current age, we are all as children who haven't reached this so-called "age of reason". How could anything hold us accountable as to inflict "bad karma"? Again... to me this seems man-made. Who says we're NOT learning what "Buddha" learned? Who's to say that Buddha's learning doesn't represent what every single individual learns? Perhaps the moment we try to "apply" any teaching, we are automatically no longer in our own learning. Guess this a more "Zen" approach. There's no evidence to "prove" reincarnation. How can the intangible be proven? I never said that all spirits were so desirous of playing here. I'm not sure if "desire" even enters into the equation. Perhaps a "souls" complete experience MUST include the physical plane experience ("Earth School"). I'd almost be willing to bet that boredom isn't what drives the soul to enter into this realm. When the discussion of "free will" comes up, I usually slip out the side door and check out. I have no clue about any rules. |
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HI SL- answer me this please - If as Buddhist believe - that if you step on a bug you have earned bad karma that will end up having you to re-incarnate again, how do you suppose anyone will ever escape the cycle? Personally, I think that "good" and "bad" karma is a man-made concept. People ask me if I'm Buddhist when I express my opposition to stepping on a bug. For me, it has nothing to do with any concern of some sort of tally of what I've done bad or good and some long-term outcome or judgment of all of my actions this time around and even other times around. I consider each living being (be it bug, deer or human) a piece of the whole picture. Is this indicative of some fear of altering that "whole picture"? Is this what prompts me to protect? At least at this point, I don't think so. Is it that, when I was young, I had loved ones very close to me die and that I now place extra value on all things living? Maybe... Is it that today I am the sum of all of my experiences? Sure... This cycle you speak of is but one interpretation out of countless interpretations. Can we escape interpretation? As humans, perhaps we are coming closer to a time of less interpretation based on human conscious thinking and more receptivity to boundless knowing gained from an infinite pool of knowing since the beginning of... whatever we call THIS. I know I'm not giving solid answers to your questions. I'm just continuously feeling around this life as a blind person just now learning how to read braille. again - if as a child, you do something that would inflict this state of bad karma on you before you reach the age of reason or understanding - how can you escape the recycling program? What if, as human beings in this current age, we are all as children who haven't reached this so-called "age of reason". How could anything hold us accountable as to inflict "bad karma"? Again... to me this seems man-made. What is it that Buddha learned that we seem not to be able to? Who says we're NOT learning what "Buddha" learned? Who's to say that Buddha's learning doesn't represent what every single individual learns? if he tells what it is he learned then why do you/they/whomever not just follow in his footsteps and stop the program from re-occurring? Perhaps the moment we try to "apply" any teaching, we are automatically no longer in our own learning. Guess that would be a more "Zen" approach. How does anyone know if they have been reincarnated, what evidence is there? There's none. How can the intangible be proven? here again, i see it as no more than another man made religion - sorry Agreed... Faith based belief in something not tangible. all you posted and answered as you yourself said - "guesses. Yup...
JB talks of trillions of souls just biting at the bit to get a chance to come here and play the earth game of life - are all these entities then so bored that this is better than where they are? Perhaps a "souls" complete experience MUST include the physical plane experience ("Earth School"). I'd almost be willing to bet that boredom isn't what drives the soul to enter into this realm. if so then it sounds like hell to me not some release from rebirth like Buddha's nirvana is supposed to be. give me your definition of this nirvana please, [you to if you read this JB] - what is this ultimate nirvana that all can reach by playing life here on earth? Yikes, Tribo! I'd only be guessing...
bottom line - if all spirits are so desirous of playing here can you, when there, opt out of existence with your "free will"? what are the rules since you know so much about it to respond to me the way you have? I never said that all spirits were so desirous of playing here. I'm not sure if "desire" even enters into the equation. When the discussion of "free will" comes up, I usually slip out the side door and check out. I have no clue about any rules. i don't like playing games unless someone explains the rules - or do we just make them up as we go? if so then my rules is for it all to stop!!
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Sat 11/15/08 08:49 AM
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This brings up the whole issue of - "why, if were able to re-incarnate and come back here, why should we choose to came back as no more intelligent or wise than we were before? My guess is that we come here to learn (as if on assignment) with no attachment to earthly status... Attachment occurs after we are physically manifested. Additionally, it could be possible that we come to this existence to experience a myriad of variations of the human/physical "condition" (sounds as if it could be a disease ) to gain complete understanding of the physical realm.
Do we have the ability to choose what we will be as some say here? Then why choose to be someone or something that will insure our failure to get out of the recycling program? Is it considered "failure" from the non-physical "perspective"? Perhaps the concept of failure isn't even conjured. What need would there be for attachment to "success"? Again if we can choose to NOT be recycled, why would we choose to do so time and again? Whats the point? are their those here that actually like the struggles of this life? From a non-physical perspective and a completely different experience of time, perhaps what you and I consider struggles are more like a sneeze. No attachment to these earthly ideas of good and bad. Or do you always know you'll come back and be rich or famous and wont suffer the moral and ethical and emotional issues each time? Is this really fun for you? enjoyable? Somehow, I think that, the less material "gain" and more emotional challenges, the greater the learning. Perhaps on "the other side", a more "difficult" life is perceived as quite valuable. Or... Perhaps I'm just trying to make myself feel better about my current life situations. After-all, what would be the point of the idea of the meek inheriting the earth?
how many billions of years has this recycling program been going on? And yet those who believe have not opted out yet? C'mon!! With all due respect... ...and I figure its a rhetorical question... What celestial being not bound by the restraints of time is really gonna care? Why doesnt anyone reincarnate as Buddha, why doesn't ""everyone"" reincarnate as Buddha if that is the goal to be reached? What if we ALL reincarnate as Buddha, but are blinded to it while in our human experience? Do you choose to learn infinitely slow? WHY? Perhaps it seems infinitely slow while in this physical realm. Think of it this way... ...Remember back in grade school, when it was maybe 15 minutes before the last bell of the school-year and just about to become summer vacation? Remember looking at the second hand on that Seth Thomas? How long did those last 15 minutes seem? Time is relative, isn't it? if you have the choice to do or not do this as to time frame - meaning you can choose when you will be re-incarnated - why not choose a time way in the future, where maybe all this pettiness and disease and war and other religion etc., ad nauseum is done away with? why such a hurry to re-enter into the same basic situation over and over again? Perhaps we're not meant to know while in the physical existence so we can focus on what's in front of us. JB says you have the free will to do whatever in the higher planes - so why choose to do it back to back, knowing what is most likely in store - another re-incarnation? It's said you keep learning and that is the point, i say if your learning it must not be the right things else it would not continue for millenia after millenia. i don't see that as learning i see that as entities not seeing the forest for the trees. Perhaps we're the ones not seeing the forest for the trees... Just for the time that we're here in the Physical, while time seems slowed down to a snail's pace. All it says to me is that which Einstein said, "there are only two infinite things - the universe and mans stupidity - and I'm not sure about the universe." Einstein had some interesting ideas on the relativity of time.
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