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Topic: Angels with "swords"?
tribo's photo
Sun 11/30/08 07:32 AM
Edited by tribo on Sun 11/30/08 08:01 AM
angels are not flesh and blood but spiritual beings - why would they fight each other with swords? they cant be killed/murdered - so what would be the point?

2nd question, why would a loving god want to have or use weapons? why would there be any weapons/chariots/spears or any other "weapons" in heaven? Could not god wipe them all out with a word, or banish them from this universe? This talk of angels seems to me to be nothing but bull, if he can't control his own creations and needs to do battle with them, what does that say about his so called "omnipotence? explain if you can please.

he seems no more than another "GOD of WAR" with an army to protect his kingdom - protect?? why would >"the"< god need protecting? does he fear for his safety or the safety of his kingdom?



this is not "the" god if thats the case, merely another created god.

lcjw's photo
Sun 11/30/08 07:50 AM
Can we go back to the "typing impediments" thread? is easier than to answer these questions....bigsmile

tribo's photo
Sun 11/30/08 07:56 AM

Can we go back to the "typing impediments" thread? is easier than to answer these questions....bigsmile


that'll teach me to start using my spill chiker on a new thread huh?? laugh

the answer is NO!! you did not participate enough - tongue2 flowerforyou

lcjw's photo
Sun 11/30/08 08:27 AM


Can we go back to the "typing impediments" thread? is easier than to answer these questions....bigsmile


that'll teach me to start using my spill chiker on a new thread huh?? laugh

the answer is NO!! you did not participate enough - tongue2 flowerforyou

eye ded!

martymark's photo
Sun 11/30/08 08:32 AM
I thinks it mights be an analogy fro da ttongue, the word sword I mean, the tongue is a mighty swift sword comes to mind. don't quote me on this!!!!lol

tribo's photo
Sun 11/30/08 09:08 AM



Can we go back to the "typing impediments" thread? is easier than to answer these questions....bigsmile


that'll teach me to start using my spill chiker on a new thread huh?? laugh

the answer is NO!! you did not participate enough - tongue2 flowerforyou

eye ded!


know yu dibn't!!:tongue:

tribo's photo
Sun 11/30/08 09:10 AM
Edited by tribo on Sun 11/30/08 09:12 AM

I thinks it mights be an analogy fro da ttongue, the word sword I mean, the tongue is a mighty swift sword comes to mind. don't quote me on this!!!!lol


laugh so gods angels bad mouthed the fallen angels out of heaven huh ARK? "get out of here you bad guys!!! - yeah right. - laugh doesn't answer the need for swords sorry - nor chariots or spears now does it? the OT testament is full of visions and scenes of angels ready to war.

martymark's photo
Sun 11/30/08 09:16 AM


I thinks it mights be an analogy fro da ttongue, the word sword I mean, the tongue is a mighty swift sword comes to mind. don't quote me on this!!!!lol


laugh so gods angels bad mouthed the fallen angels out of heaven huh ARK? "get out of here you bad guys!!! - yeah right. - laugh doesn't answer the need for swords sorry - nor chariots or spears now does it? the OT testament is full of visions and scenes of angels ready to war.
nope, the tongue can be a double edged sword as well, they bad mouthed themselve's out of heaven! read your bible with more of a I want to understand attitude rather than the one you have used in the past, it might help you get a little better understanding of the big pic!

tribo's photo
Sun 11/30/08 09:21 AM
Edited by tribo on Sun 11/30/08 09:24 AM



I thinks it mights be an analogy fro da ttongue, the word sword I mean, the tongue is a mighty swift sword comes to mind. don't quote me on this!!!!lol


laugh so gods angels bad mouthed the fallen angels out of heaven huh ARK? "get out of here you bad guys!!! - yeah right. - laugh doesn't answer the need for swords sorry - nor chariots or spears now does it? the OT testament is full of visions and scenes of angels ready to war.
nope, the tongue can be a double edged sword as well, they bad mouthed themselve's out of heaven! read your bible with more of a I want to understand attitude rather than the one you have used in the past, it might help you get a little better understanding of the big pic!


temper,temper, ark - my what a bad christmas spirit you have - :tongue:

i understand the meaning of the "double edged sword ark, this in no way explains war chariots does it? it is reffering in these scenes to REAL swords and chariots - not battles of tongues!

if it had been debates of some kind it would be evident - it's not!! sorry!!

lcjw's photo
Mon 12/01/08 08:32 AM
eye dobn't sink es meant to be fesecally. eye sink es mean to be speretally.

no photo
Mon 12/01/08 08:34 AM
this is not "the" god if thats the case, merely another created god.





Seemingly, you have answered the question....

tribo's photo
Mon 12/01/08 09:13 AM

eye dobn't sink es meant to be fesecally. eye sink es mean to be speretally.


yu mite bee write.

no photo
Tue 12/02/08 08:36 AM

2nd question, why would a loving god want to have or use weapons? why would there be any weapons/chariots/spears or any other "weapons" in heaven? Could not god wipe them all out with a word, or banish them from this universe? This talk of angels seems to me to be nothing but bull, if he can't control his own creations and needs to do battle with them, what does that say about his so called "omnipotence? explain if you can please.


By Jove I think Tribo's Got it

you finally understand the point I was trying to make in that other thread....why would a God have the "need" for weapons, angels fighting, chariots or humans...

the fact that a supposely omnipotent God would create anything would in fact prove that it wasn't omnipotent ...and not a God

tribo's photo
Tue 12/02/08 10:35 AM


2nd question, why would a loving god want to have or use weapons? why would there be any weapons/chariots/spears or any other "weapons" in heaven? Could not god wipe them all out with a word, or banish them from this universe? This talk of angels seems to me to be nothing but bull, if he can't control his own creations and needs to do battle with them, what does that say about his so called "omnipotence? explain if you can please.


By Jove I think Tribo's Got it

you finally understand the point I was trying to make in that other thread....why would a God have the "need" for weapons, angels fighting, chariots or humans...

the fact that a supposely omnipotent God would create anything would in fact prove that it wasn't omnipotent ...and not a God


well no your question was why does god have a "need" to create, mine is why does he have a need to "make war" with his own creation?

the only thing i can see is since he is not capable of creating something as perfect as he is he had no choice but to create inferior things. if he could create things as perfect as he is then he wouldn't be "the god" anymore but just one of many. he's a jealous god, don't like competition.thus - angels and mankind - but as to "need" i think it was not need but boredom or desire etc.. but really i dont care, he did not care enough to ask me if i wanted to participate and i dont care to conform to his rules. enuff said.


no photo
Tue 12/02/08 11:14 AM

well no your question was why does god have a "need" to create, mine is why does he have a need to "make war" with his own creation?


"Tribo" sounds like the same direction of the question... the key word is "need" and it also answers your original question

just ponder why God had a need to create anything and it will automatically answer your original question as to why God had a need for angels to fight with swords

davidben1's photo
Tue 12/02/08 11:21 AM
for yea, we are the angels, which have the swords, that fight one another, with mouths first, then with the hands, seeing not all mankind is only but ONE EQUAL spieces.......

tribo's photo
Tue 12/02/08 11:57 AM


well no your question was why does god have a "need" to create, mine is why does he have a need to "make war" with his own creation?


"Tribo" sounds like the same direction of the question... the key word is "need" and it also answers your original question

just ponder why God had a need to create anything and it will automatically answer your original question as to why God had a need for angels to fight with swords


and what is your answer for why god had a "need" to create funch?

no photo
Tue 12/02/08 12:05 PM



well no your question was why does god have a "need" to create, mine is why does he have a need to "make war" with his own creation?


"Tribo" sounds like the same direction of the question... the key word is "need" and it also answers your original question

just ponder why God had a need to create anything and it will automatically answer your original question as to why God had a need for angels to fight with swords


and what is your answer for why god had a "need" to create funch?


to prove it's not a God

tribo's photo
Tue 12/02/08 12:10 PM




well no your question was why does god have a "need" to create, mine is why does he have a need to "make war" with his own creation?


"Tribo" sounds like the same direction of the question... the key word is "need" and it also answers your original question

just ponder why God had a need to create anything and it will automatically answer your original question as to why God had a need for angels to fight with swords


and what is your answer for why god had a "need" to create funch?


to prove it's not a God


??? to prove to itself that it is not a god?

Krimsa's photo
Tue 12/02/08 12:14 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Tue 12/02/08 12:20 PM
I dunno. Arent there "Battle angels" that will kill for god? They are mercenaries in a sense. Like Michael? Isnt he one?

Anyway, Im not leaving that photo up. Its easy enough to do a search for images of "Battle Angels." Its an absurd premise. This god is not very nice at all. Although Im not certain that Christianity was ever trying to make a claim that it was reasonable or based in compassion.


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