the dawn of man a sunrise at dusk, the infinite circle that create all trust, evidence buried deep in the crust, flanks all swollen about to bust, the tail the head need not a toss, nothing missing not one ounce as lost, dead and dying be no more the cost, justice roam the world evil to accost, wormwood the holy that swarmed the land, marked the mind and tied the hands, pours holy minds thru the eye of the needle like sand, the lamb once bleeding no longer a man, open the books each page to unfold, trees all plucked fig leaves once sold, trunks of cedar and hickory and burl, all that was spoken now be unfurled, the measure of knowing as what be welcome, infinite possibilities cannot be broken, all in the universe as one unbroken, winter and summer the spring rains bring the token, the chariots ride and unbridle the bits that choke, perfect love created no longer be broke, one rider come forth and smash the yoke, imagination prick reality just as was spoke, nights and days and no more sky, signs in the scrolls cure all evil eye, the dragon it struggle but soon shall die, let fear and love be summoned on high, erase the divide and courage take flight, the day and hour pass in just one night, yang be ying and zen the purple cord, all one mind and all of accord, spirits once beaten now gold they afford, wisdom and truth the king and lord, earth as shaken the divine as rose, the womb as closed all mankind exposed, perplexion and confusion no longer the foe, the hair of wisdom white and long it grow, firery reason with no start and no end, einstien and lennon casey nostros begin, gravity wane and big wheels they do spin, equal be the flame that burn within, once what was wrote that made the mote, breached all logic crafted each boat, trees cut down and all branches afloat, once broken cisterns now where the coat, old magic carpets once damaged and torn, race thru the skies and erase the scorn, bias birthed equality and freedom is born, the crop be readied now harvest the corn, come ye hither all cursed good or bad, truth be equalized and erase all the sad, dries the tears and remove the gag, young and old the prize be had, the myths displaced that made malice and hate, time wound tight release the plan and set the fate, memories jagged stones laid plain and straight, uncover the path and lead to the gate, childlike toddlers released from a fall, wise all knowing now grown and tall, balance now free released from the stall, honest candor come one and all, hearts open forth and set free the sails, pious kingdoms do crumble and fail, holy perceptions no longer avial, truth as slavery no man buy or sell, flying eagle eyes rip down all the blinds, infinite unlock each creature sublime, new horizons redeem once feeble minds, mankinds destiny about to unwind, awareness as free if no holier than thee, shatters the hourglass set captives free, the veil now rent what do you see, equality quell the hearts that bleed, bias the serpent the once ravaged and beat, starved to death no mortals to eat, brotherhood the meat prepare the feast, power as perfect no strongarm defeat, the son arise and stop mercy for cash, hatred sold once that ripped the sash, dogma and doctrine burned in the trash, united mankind now nothing dare abash, machines stop churning the earth no more turning, what crawled on its belly now no more hurting, holy spirits removed eyes now yearning, the snake distain give way to learning, no lion no lamb no bear no beast, taste the ripened fruit of equality, pure wisdom blind eyes to entreat, proposed evil slaves now smile with glee, holy leaders in fright do flee, towns and countries and cities ensanred now free, prepare the magic and light up the show, trees of knowledge cut down and smote, trees of life now free to grow, eternal life let lose to flow, what was down now up and up as down, no more mary round and round, eves adorned in rainbow gowns, adom in flux light up the towns, wonderland stories once as foretold, greatness unvieled swallow the fold, universe four sides now do unfold, galaxie laid out all eyes behold, civilization the statue now as complete, hands with swords no longer compete, gather all adoms untie the energy, towers of commerce as silent and empty, perpetual spirit stop all the commotion, equal the prophet stir the big potion, rise the atlantis and erase all notions, spark the perpetual and set infinite in motion.............

I don't think there are any quick solutions for racism. Even within an interracial family, racism and bias can exist.

^ watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5J0cSnYnFg

How do you know personally when you are free spiritualy?

Is it when you wake up everyday feeling good with yourself

Is it when nothing bothers you anymore or you see everything as great instead of what is

Is it when you can experience passion to help others in needs

or is it a combination of many things.

I would like to know what your personal philosophy of what freedom of spirituality means to you.

Something rather unsettling I read of the other day...

A group of anthropologists, and scientists, studied a colony of chimpanzees and noted a group within the colony who were listless, apathetic, isolating themselves, and for all indications showed signs of depression.

This group of chimps were removed from the colony, for six months, and when the scientists returned to re-integrate the 'depressed' chimps, they discovered the entire colony dead. Not gone, not moved on... dead.

What they surmised, is that depression within a society is an early warning system for the colony, that something is not right...

Depression.... when diagnosing depression and other forms of societal dis-ease.. the benchmarks, or parameters, are so vastly blurred, it really is a hit and miss diagnosis.

Societal pressures... perceived or otherwise, as well as having an unhealthy image or picture of what one is supposed to be, are strong contributors to 'depression'...

I like to think that depression, is an undoing of repression.. it is present for a specific organic reason, and sedating, or masking these sensations are inappropriate...

More emotional support, and connection with clients, family, society in general is a more effective form of treatment.

As a race/cutlure, humans have become so separated, insular, and isolated, emotionally,the sense of dis-connection is becoming more and more prevalent.

so if god or gods existed then they are neutral. interesting

I had a little time to think about it. Perhaps one side of the Gods are evil as they watch how humans suffer, use violence, lie, etc. etc.

and the oppossing team is trying to prove them wrong that life can be full of love, happiness, joy, etc. etc.

A competition of the two sides as nations are moved around like a boardgame of Risk

Delusions of Sanity make for more productive worker bees.

I've had as much good come from medications as bad, and in particular, one anti-psychotic actually induced a manic episode, causing me to be hospitalized in 2007. Without medications, my own illness takes me from depression to hypomania, but the benefits of the illness greatly outweigh the liabilities of it. The main photo is my latest invention, now in production, and with the side-effect that now I hire people with a better delusion of sanity to build it. The invention required skills in: Mathematics, image processing, programming, machining, drafting, biomechanics and podiatry. Speaking from the perspective of a high school drop out, one could assume genius or insanity. For the latter, the state of Ohio would agree with you, but on the other hand, the results of my efforts have caused me to be very spoiled and I'm perfectly content being labeled crazy, nut job, wacko or whatever the phrase of the day is. I get to pretty much do whatever I want to do and really don't have to explain myself or justify myself.

While I don't recommend others doing this, most of my life has excluded the use of medications, except for a brief period in the early 80's and from early 2005 through early 2008, (lithium, trileptal and as a prn, Seroquel). When I was hospitalized in early 2007, for the first time in a quarter of a century, it was actually seroquel, a tranquilizer known to be useful for most patients who suffered from bipolar mania or sleeping problems that triggered a horrible dysphoric episode, when I ran out of lithium. (Lithium and trileptal are mood stablizers). I have to agree with you in terms of feeling dumbed down by medications , although there have been times in my life where medication was necessary. I also avoid any substance that messes with the dopamine receptors of the brain, (alcohol etc) simply because they induce mania and it is impossible to predict whether the experience will be dysphoric or euphoric, and either way, mania is not something anyone can really enjoy.

There's a common cliche that fits, that there is a fine line between genius and insanity. It assumes the line is real that the line really matters. Much of media encourages people to treat mental illness as a clinical condition, not too different than an ailment below the neck, and in one particular show, more honestly describes mental illness as a gift and a curse. The secret to this is finding where our weaknesses are actually our strengths, which, in my case, is inventing things and challenging my mind to go where it hasn't gone before.

It is not unusual or a rare occurrence for those that are of higher intelligence or score well on IQ tests to have emotional problems or sometimes actual mental disturbance in some respect. Some of his behaviors would have led me to suspect that he might have been manic or bi-polar. I have no way of knowing that of course and neither did they back then because the level of sophistication and ability to properly diagnose mental illness was not anywhere near what we have today. I am only saying that it is possible and that some of his behaviors and appearance would have prompted an evaluation if he had lived today.

But does that really mean you can use your free speech to go and insult people, and when you have gotten your warning just go on and on. And when you have been finally banned for that come back under another name, and another, and another, to just do the same things over and over again?

Why is that?

It amuses me to see how someone that has been banned from these forums can still entertain you. It should by now be clear to all that this man had only one intention, to stir trouble.
And he succeeded.

I don't know what you mean by self-preservation. We would have to agree on the premise of what the self actually is. Some people define self as the brain and body. I don't.

No it doesn't. How did you come to that conclusion?

And the will has little to do with "religion."

Religion in general, simply uses that term a lot. Deep down, they actually hate the idea of "free" will. They even try to distort it meaning to mean a choice between following Jesus or not, or between good or evil.

Just because a decision is "influenced" does not mean that it is not an action of the will or that the will is not "free."

The will involves an inner decision on where to place our attention and how to direct ourselves. It is the power to direct ourselves and our thoughts and feelings.

The will is either weak or strong. It is always free. Your are endowed with a will naturally and it comes in the same degree as your conscious awareness.

Even a bacteria has a will. It's influence and strength is according to it own conscious awareness of its surroundings.

This is another of his quotes that I keep posted nearby; Makes me think...

"The definition of insanity is
repeating the same action over and over and expecting
different results."

Safe assumptions, you like wholistic foods and medicine. Practice your own religion or one similiar to buddism. Theres a 80% chance you have had your shakras cleaned. 85% chance you had a psychic or tarot card reading. 70% chnace you belivev in reincarnation. You have read siddhartha, also you may believe in the healing effects of cyrstals. Most likely youngest child and your parents had you when they were older than average.????? Or im just making stabs in the dark....like yourself

Im sure a lot of you have wondered what the meaning of life is...

well i believe that life is the collection of your dreams, beliefs, morals, values, goals and memories that make up who you are in this world...

what do you think is the meaning of life?

The answer is Meat