Most men - and you are no exception - have great attractive qualities that would make them an excellent partner for any woman.

However, most of these men - and you seem to be no exception - have trouble finding dates or girlfriends or friends with benefits or whatever they're looking for.

Now, why is that? You have all of these positive responses from women on this discussion thread that confirm your value as a good potential suitor...but you still seem to have some trouble finding a date?

The truth is, most men just don't know how to sell themselves. There are many great products out there, but only the ones with effective advertising get purchased.

People in the PUA (pickup artist) community acknowledge the fact that every man has something great and attractive within them that he can offer to women, and have developed the best methods to convey these attractive qualities, to basically become the best "dating salesmen" out there, or however you want to see it.

I think you'll benefit from checking out my thread, "Pickup Artist Secrets Revealed!" in this forum.

1337gamer,
Welcome to the game. My name is Chief, and I am a Pickup Artist. no joke.

Approach Anxiety is probably the number one problem discussed in the PUA (pickup artist) community and dozens upon dozens of methods have been created to eliminate it, but they all center around one basic principle: stepping out of your comfort zone.

In fact, that's what progress and maturity entails... just stepping out of your comfort zone.

A guy may be most comfortable just sitting in front of his computer at home, drinking hot chocolate or something pleasant, but he is never going to get any better at talking to women unless he gets out of the house and actually talks to people. To get what he wants, he'll have to sacrifice his comfort of sitting on his ass all day. That's stepping out of your comfort zone.

I would recommend starting off with the "newbie mission" which is basically walking around in a public place saying "hi" to everyone you pass by, smiling and making eye contact while doing so. Some people will ignore you, some people will say hi too late, and some shall be very receptive. It doesn't matter. Just say hi, like this website says.

The wrong PUA stuff revolves around just women lol
The right PUA stuff is centered on the PUA himself
...to become better person

I have met many PUAs from the community I have plenty of respect for, and I have met many PUAs from the community I have no respect for. Those who have earned my respect are the ones that understand their own innate human desire for progress, and aren't into the PUA stuff just to get laid.

By the way, women do not directly say "I WANT A MAN THAT REVOLVES AROUND ME," but that's what many men hear when women say they want a "nice guy." (that's the wrong message to take from that, by the way)

LMAO

And you assume that because...?

Are you a racist as well? Do you judge other books by their covers?

Maybe you should learn a thing or two about a group of people before judging them, buddy pal. The Pickup Artist community is a real community with set rules and values, not just a bunch of guys who think they are "players."



I really don't know. That rumor is OLD by many years, and a bunch of sources are saying different things about that. Thundercat's Lair says they talked to Style about it and apparently he says it's all a crock of media bull, but who knows? I don't really care lol

on one hand i could whip out my tarot card deck and tell you "the cards do not lie" lol

or i could tell you "whether you think you can or can't, you're right." - Henry Ford

look up Catch Him and Keep Him by Christian Carter and The Rules by... (i forgot the authors)

hey guys
watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0omMTu9Ax8

Neil Strauss (PUA name: Style) on "The View"

and you assume that because...?

seriously. that's the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.

lol seriously. thats...yeah. wrong. LMAO

And I don't know enough about schizo and aspergers to help you with that specifically, but I will tell you this: nothing can hold you back.

they don't if you treat them like "tricks" lol

its really about expressing yourself in a fun and positive way, in my opinion. most guys just hold themselves back from dong so without realizing it, and so they turn to the pickup arts to unlock their attractive side.

"quick fix"

"immediate gratification"

wont help ya out in the long run, buddy pal.

"mental illness?"

what condition do you have, specifically?

with the pickup arts, any obstacle pertaining to your love life can be overcome.

from what ive read in your posts and stuff, i really cant imagine anything outside the realm of your control that could hold you back from achieving whatever you'd want.

That "click" thing has another name... "Vibing," as defined by master pickup artist Juggler. lol...anything that works already has a name

one of my ex girlfriends made me a booklet of memories weve shared together for my birthday

she was such a sweetheart

anyways, i was talking to this girl one day about routines that pickup artists use. i told her about one where the pickup artist would meet someone and during the conversation he would say, "you're not a thief, are you?" when she says no, he would take off his necklace, reach around her neck and put it on her and say, "well i have to go right now, but i'm counting on you to return this to me the next time we see each other "

i expected her to think it was sleezy because its a PUA (pickup artist) thing, but to my surprised she said "AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW that's so romantic" or some sh!t like that

i bought so many necklaces from ebay

maybe ull find that you'll have a lot more fun if you try
who knows? only one way to find out...

uhh just tell em
lol
why wait?

a lot of people say "dont dip the pen in the company ink"

do what you will with that advice

the approach can be one of the most frightening parts of the entire dating game, but it can also be the most fun. just have fun with it.

yesterday some of my buddies and i (were all pickup artists lol) went to the mall and just did approaches for a few hours. one of my friends went into victoria's secret and asked someone, "if a guy was at the wrong place at the wrong time, would you tell him?" haha it was great. she just started cracking up and he effectively transitioned to more conversation. i approached a hired gun (that's what we call female employees who are hired for their good looks) in victorias secret and said "i'm going for a new look..." haha it was awesome. we played around with conversation and she recommended i try on some yellow panties...

i recommend starting off by practicing approaches with hired guns. they are paid to talk to you lol - of course they can't reject talking to you! if they did, they would be unemployed. get used to talking to women.

of our group, one of my friends was dressed the most appropriately in terms of blending in with everyone else. so, we got him to try this out - we told him to approach people in stores while pretending to be an employee by saying, "are you finding everything OK? can i help you?" and then in the middle of the conversation he could just be like "naw im just kiddin. i dont actually work here. i just wanted to talk to you " haha they loved my idea.

if you are with friends and talking amongst each other about something, see if you could benefit from having a female opinion about whatever you're talking about. now, us guys being pickup artists, we were talking about attractiveness. my friend asked me if its attractive to have a strong sense of entitlement, and i used that as an opener for an approach. we were in the food court and i saw these 2 cool looking girls nearby, and i just walked right up to them and told them about the conversation we were having and was wondering what a girl might think about the topic (classic opinion opener). the girls were giving me some obvious IOIs (indicators of interest - signs that she's attracted to you) and actually seemed a little nervous as if she were talking to some rock star. i thought it was pretty ironic because most guys act nervous around women they are attracted to while the woman is just calm as a hindu cow but it's so easy to flip the script around like i did if you just display some confidence. from this, i also realized that the girl's nervous energy was actually making ME a little uncomfortable. she wasn't even showing that much nervousness, but imagine how uncomfortable a woman must feel if she has to talk to a guy who seems TOTALLY nervous and unconfident! wow.

just have fun with it, man. don't worry about people judging you...who cares? people are too worried about others judging them so they usually don't even think about judging YOU lol. every second that passes by will never come back to ya. celebrate every moment you get!

it all depends on how fast you escalate conversation to the "next level"

buddhism

if first you don't succeed, try try again

that's what separates the chumps from the champs

internal locus of control -> success and happiness

blaming genetics = external locus of control

but how honest are you talkin about?
if you are saying right off the bat, "i think you are beautiful and i am feeling emotions of love for you when i see your beauty," do you REALLY think that's honesty?
No, it's not. It's letting attachments get in the way of who you are.
"Be yourself?" That statement of advice is very good if you know what it's really saying.
Notice how you act carefree around your friends and family. Now try that around a beautiful woman. Not so easy being yourself, huh?
But do it anyway.

actully, i very much overreacted

lol sorry man