Topic: the approach
stevenpwis's photo
Thu 12/27/07 05:12 AM
Edited by stevenpwis on Thu 12/27/07 05:14 AM
What is the best way for me to approach a woman? I don't talk a lot so that's where I have a problem, starting up a conversation.

Coffee shops, book stores, grocery stores, I don't do bars.

There is a girl at work that I am attracted to, but I have never talked to her, I don't like to bother people when they are working. I do say hi, and how are you doing to her though. I have a concert I am going to Saturday night and because my girlfriend and I just broke up I have an extra ticket available. Would this approach work for the girl at my job? "I realize we don't talk at all, but I have a concert I am going to on Saturday and I have an extra ticket available, I was wondering if you would like to join me?"

Not sure if she has a boyfriend or not either

lilith401's photo
Thu 12/27/07 05:23 AM
Steven, I would suggest you try talking to her first before you jump to asking her out. It would be very easy to find out if she is seeing someone by just asking her how her holiday was and with whom she spent it. Try complimenting her and see how she takes it. Talk about music and mention the band/artist you have tickets for. If she expresses interest and is single, go for it. If I were her, I would not want to hear that the other ticket was for another woman. I'd prefer a more bland but still honest "the person I was planning to go with just couldn't make it and I'd really like to go with you".. or something like that. Good luck!

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Thu 12/27/07 05:37 AM
I wasn't planning on telling her it was for another girl, i was just going to say i have an available ticket and i would like to take her.

thunderbear1967's photo
Thu 12/27/07 05:44 AM
Ask her out for coffee after work just to talk see how things go from there if ya'll get along and and have a good time talking ask her if she is free for the concert tell her you have the extra ticket and it would be more fun to have someone to go with see what happens, Just keep in your mind no expectations she may see you as a friend and no more so just go out and have fun.

tigerman1956's photo
Thu 12/27/07 05:46 AM
BE CAREFUL DATING SOMEONE WHERE YOU WORK, MOST OF THE TIME IT CAUSES PROBLEMS. HOWEVER IF YOU DO, THEN GOOD LUCK TO YOU.

lilith401's photo
Thu 12/27/07 05:49 AM
Steven, I was not assuming you were going to blurt out that the ticket was for your ex, but if I were her I'd want to hear something so I did not think you bought the tickets hoping I'd go with you. If you mention you already has them it would be construed as more casual but she'll still get the point you'd like to share the experience with her. That's all, don't read too much into what I'm saying. Good luck.

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Thu 12/27/07 05:50 AM
thanks

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Thu 12/27/07 05:57 AM
do you klc?

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Thu 12/27/07 04:16 PM
a lot of people say "dont dip the pen in the company ink"

do what you will with that advice

the approach can be one of the most frightening parts of the entire dating game, but it can also be the most fun. just have fun with it.

yesterday some of my buddies and i (were all pickup artists lol) went to the mall and just did approaches for a few hours. one of my friends went into victoria's secret and asked someone, "if a guy was at the wrong place at the wrong time, would you tell him?" haha it was great. she just started cracking up and he effectively transitioned to more conversation. i approached a hired gun (that's what we call female employees who are hired for their good looks) in victorias secret and said "i'm going for a new look..." haha it was awesome. we played around with conversation and she recommended i try on some yellow panties... sick

i recommend starting off by practicing approaches with hired guns. they are paid to talk to you lol - of course they can't reject talking to you! if they did, they would be unemployed. get used to talking to women.

of our group, one of my friends was dressed the most appropriately in terms of blending in with everyone else. so, we got him to try this out - we told him to approach people in stores while pretending to be an employee by saying, "are you finding everything OK? can i help you?" and then in the middle of the conversation he could just be like "naw im just kiddin. i dont actually work here. i just wanted to talk to you :smile: " haha they loved my idea.

if you are with friends and talking amongst each other about something, see if you could benefit from having a female opinion about whatever you're talking about. now, us guys being pickup artists, we were talking about attractiveness. my friend asked me if its attractive to have a strong sense of entitlement, and i used that as an opener for an approach. we were in the food court and i saw these 2 cool looking girls nearby, and i just walked right up to them and told them about the conversation we were having and was wondering what a girl might think about the topic (classic opinion opener). the girls were giving me some obvious IOIs (indicators of interest - signs that she's attracted to you) and actually seemed a little nervous as if she were talking to some rock star. i thought it was pretty ironic because most guys act nervous around women they are attracted to while the woman is just calm as a hindu cow but it's so easy to flip the script around like i did if you just display some confidence. from this, i also realized that the girl's nervous energy was actually making ME a little uncomfortable. she wasn't even showing that much nervousness, but imagine how uncomfortable a woman must feel if she has to talk to a guy who seems TOTALLY nervous and unconfident! wow.

just have fun with it, man. don't worry about people judging you...who cares? people are too worried about others judging them so they usually don't even think about judging YOU lol. every second that passes by will never come back to ya. celebrate every moment you get!

stevenpwis's photo
Thu 12/27/07 06:00 PM
thanks for the advice again chief

willy_cents's photo
Thu 12/27/07 06:14 PM
I am going to run counter to all the rest. Just walk up to her and lay it on her. What the heck. You don't need a credit check or a complete background check. If you like her, or think you might, just do it. What is the worst she is going to do? Have a bf and say no? You can spend the next 20 years mealy mouthing around and end up with nothing but coulda woulda shoulda. I can gaurantee that she not gonna ask you to a concert, or a movie, or coffee or nothing else. I have dated lotsa ladies for varying lengths of time that I just went up to and asked. Never had one fall on the floor laughing and pointing, never had one call the cops, and the worst I ever got was a "No Thank You." Most ladies take it as a compliment that a guy is interested in them, even if they decline the invitation.

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Thu 12/27/07 07:38 PM
that's good advice willy, I am going to ask her at work tomorrow, I just hope she is working tomorrow because if she's not there, obviously I can't ask.

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Fri 12/28/07 02:00 PM
I went up to the girl at work today, talked a little then asked her if she would like to go to the concert tomorrow night...boom, shot down, she was nice about it and said she was flattered, but she has a boyfriend. I'm not that good at conversation either, never know where to start, or how to keep going.

hikerchick's photo
Fri 12/28/07 06:01 PM
Dude- if you weren't young enough to be my son, I would have gone to the concert with you. Good luck on your journey.

willy_cents's photo
Fri 12/28/07 06:06 PM
congrats steven...just keep it up. Nothing ventured nothing gained. Sorry she had a bf, but, looking around here, not all of them dodrinker

stevenpwis's photo
Fri 12/28/07 06:30 PM
well, me being as shy as I am, just going up to the girl at work boosted my confidence a lot.

willy_cents's photo
Fri 12/28/07 07:38 PM
just remember, they not gonna fall on the floor laughing. Gets easier to ask them the more youdo it. that was my experience nayhow. They never know what they are missing out on when they say no

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Sat 12/29/07 05:56 AM
wow, i think i may have hit the post topic too many times when it was loading...oops