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I'm starting to think some of these women are just being obtuse. You've hit the nail on the head. |
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I'm starting to think some of these women are just being obtuse. You've hit the nail on the head. And they wonder why their men cheat. |
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I'm starting to think some of these women are just being obtuse. You've hit the nail on the head. And they wonder why their men cheat. No reason to go there. Most of us are single and all of us are screwed up. |
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I'm starting to think some of these women are just being obtuse. You've hit the nail on the head. And they wonder why their men cheat. No reason to go there. Most of us are single and all of us are screwed up. Haha You're right. I'll blog about it instead. |
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If a man can not control his toy he shouldn't be married. A lot of guys are selfish animals. That's fine if you choose to be that way but don't take it out on your marriage. I know women cheat too, but men can be pigs, thinking they have a God given right to be abusive toward women. Treating women like a temporal piece of meat is disgusting. I can understand it a little if a guy or gal needs to end a marriage because of whatever, but to be as low as to cheat while in a marriage is scum and shows that the couple were not ready for marriage in the beginning.
Many times (not all) a man is able to move on and get over it, but the lasting scars that we have seen abused women carry is a real shame. There are some real lovely ladies out there that will never trust again all because men had to treat them like possessions and not treasures. I have never been cheated on, why? Partly because I don't hang out with guys who talk about boning anything that walks. I don't get involved in those behind the women's back talk. I'm not a poster child for perfection (far from it) but I know the guy game exist and I totally disapprove of it. If you want to be a player than go do it, but we have no right to put another through torture. |
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I get it now! I get it! You are going to just take my statements out of context and be offended regardless of what I say. We are on the same page now. Relationships require 100% from both parties. When a relationship fails, it's rarely due exclusively to the actions or inactions of one party. If a man cheats, it's always wrong. That doesn't mean that his wife is blameless! Did she try to fix things or did she let the marriage fall apart around her. Just because one partner gives up, that doesn't give the other partner the right to give up too. A marriage is a commitment and should be taken seriously by both parties. If a guy chooses to cheat rather than fix the problems or end the relationship, it's his fault for cheating. Same thing if a woman cheats rather than fixing the problems or ending the relationship. |
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Someone mentioned earlier about mens genes taking over. It is actually a biological fact that men are built to inseminate as many women as possible in their lifetime which goes against nature and comes from societorial nurture. Most of the men I know who have cheated done it because they are not getting their needs met by the women they are with. I have only had three serious relationships in my life. I have been faithful in all three even though sometimes things have been hard. Most mens needs are really quite simple but a lot of women do not understand that. Hence they stray and believe me I have been tempted. If a guy cannot control himself to keep from cheating, then maybe being in a committed relationship is not for him. |
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Edited by
Spidercmb
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Fri 07/06/12 10:21 AM
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I get it now! I get it! You are going to just take my statements out of context and be offended regardless of what I say. We are on the same page now. Relationships require 100% from both parties. When a relationship fails, it's rarely due exclusively to the actions or inactions of one party. If a man cheats, it's always wrong. That doesn't mean that his wife is blameless! Did she try to fix things or did she let the marriage fall apart around her. Just because one partner gives up, that doesn't give the other partner the right to give up too. A marriage is a commitment and should be taken seriously by both parties. If a guy chooses to cheat rather than fix the problems or end the relationship, it's his fault for cheating. Same thing if a woman cheats rather than fixing the problems or ending the relationship. Are you saying that relationship problems are black and white? Any relationship problem is exclusively caused by one person in the relationship? That is both incredibly simplistic and unrealistic, so I believe I must be misunderstanding you. |
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I get it now! I get it! You are going to just take my statements out of context and be offended regardless of what I say. We are on the same page now. Relationships require 100% from both parties. When a relationship fails, it's rarely due exclusively to the actions or inactions of one party. If a man cheats, it's always wrong. That doesn't mean that his wife is blameless! Did she try to fix things or did she let the marriage fall apart around her. Just because one partner gives up, that doesn't give the other partner the right to give up too. A marriage is a commitment and should be taken seriously by both parties. If a guy chooses to cheat rather than fix the problems or end the relationship, it's his fault for cheating. Same thing if a woman cheats rather than fixing the problems or ending the relationship. Are you saying that relationship problems are black and white? Any relationship problem is exclusively caused by one person in the relationship? That is both incredibly simplistic and unrealistic, so I believe I must be misunderstanding you. I didn't say that. You seem to read into things quite often. When that happens, at least with me, you seem to come up with things I've never said. Both people need to work on problems in relationships. If one chooses to cheat rather than work on their problems, that's an even bigger issue and it's their fault for cheating. |
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If a man can not control his toy he shouldn't be married. A lot of guys are selfish animals. That's fine if you choose to be that way but don't take it out on your marriage. I know women cheat too, but men can be pigs, thinking they have a God given right to be abusive toward women. Treating women like a temporal piece of meat is disgusting. I can understand it a little if a guy or gal needs to end a marriage because of whatever, but to be as low as to cheat while in a marriage is scum and shows that the couple were not ready for marriage in the beginning. Many times (not all) a man is able to move on and get over it, but the lasting scars that we have seen abused women carry is a real shame. There are some real lovely ladies out there that will never trust again all because men had to treat them like possessions and not treasures. I have never been cheated on, why? Partly because I don't hang out with guys who talk about boning anything that walks. I don't get involved in those behind the women's back talk. I'm not a poster child for perfection (far from it) but I know the guy game exist and I totally disapprove of it. If you want to be a player than go do it, but we have no right to put another through torture. It SO nice to read that a man is aware of this and doesn´t just try to justify why many men and women cheat. I totally agree with you and I´m also aware of the fact that many women do it too. I´m not going to say who cheats the most , because probably women just cheat as much as men do. I´m just going to say that I´m against cheating and I´m against the ones who say that men are all the same. It really bothers me when men say that we women are all the same, so I think it´s not fair for men to say that they are all pigs. I know a good man is hard to find, but I think it is as hard as finding a good woman, but we do exist!!! |
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I'm starting to think some of these women are just being obtuse. We have answered all their questions and yet we're still going in the same circles. Either they refuse or cannot understand. I'd say we weren't explaining properly, but I understand what the other men have said and I know they understand what I've said. Therefore, it must be an issue with the women I don't think I fit that obtuse category....and I think I understand what you're trying to say..you men are much more in need of physical contact than we women are.Well,we women are in much more need to have a psychological connection...we need the comfort,the closeness etc.Soo,from this I understand neither of us has a right to mistreat the other because we have differences,it just makes us d-i-f-f-e-r-e-n-t.......... |
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I'm starting to think some of these women are just being obtuse. We have answered all their questions and yet we're still going in the same circles. Either they refuse or cannot understand. I'd say we weren't explaining properly, but I understand what the other men have said and I know they understand what I've said. Therefore, it must be an issue with the women I don't think I fit that obtuse category....and I think I understand what you're trying to say..you men are much more in need of physical contact than we women are.Well,we women are in much more need to have a psychological connection...we need the comfort,the closeness etc.Soo,from this I understand neither of us has a right to mistreat the other because we have differences,it just makes us d-i-f-f-e-r-e-n-t.......... Physical contact is just as important to some women, too. I would not want a relationship where I wasn't getting enough sex. Though, if that happened, I'd work on it with the person I'm with. If that didn't solve it, the relationship would end. I wouldn't cheat to get more sex. |
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If a man can not control his toy he shouldn't be married. A lot of guys are selfish animals. That's fine if you choose to be that way but don't take it out on your marriage. I know women cheat too, but men can be pigs, thinking they have a God given right to be abusive toward women. Treating women like a temporal piece of meat is disgusting. I can understand it a little if a guy or gal needs to end a marriage because of whatever, but to be as low as to cheat while in a marriage is scum and shows that the couple were not ready for marriage in the beginning. Many times (not all) a man is able to move on and get over it, but the lasting scars that we have seen abused women carry is a real shame. There are some real lovely ladies out there that will never trust again all because men had to treat them like possessions and not treasures. Spoken like a true gent. A TRUE gent. You certainly know what you're talking about.  |
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I'm starting to think some of these women are just being obtuse. You've hit the nail on the head. From TBRich: "But basically wrmnnaturl is correct- your behaviour is your choice based on your emotions which are based on your thoughts. Whether you are aware of them or not. Using psychology as an excuse is BS, using it to help make your life better, is what it is for. The choice is yours to make and remember you only have control over yourself, not others." TBRich is a man, and so am I. Yet, he and I agree with the women here. A man does make a choice when it comes to a relationship between him and a woman. The "DNA-made-me-do-it" hypothesis has a glaring flaw. It does not explain why a man would have multiple sex partners and yet not impregnate all of those sex partners. If DNA causes a man to desire multiple sex partners, then what causes the same man to try to avoid impregnating those same sex partners? This flaw is made worse by the fact that homosexual men seek male sex partners. The last time that I checked, one must have a sex partner of the opposite gender in order to spread one's DNA. |
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Edited by
mg1959
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If a man can not control his toy he shouldn't be married. A lot of guys are selfish animals. That's fine if you choose to be that way but don't take it out on your marriage. I know women cheat too, but men can be pigs, thinking they have a God given right to be abusive toward women. Treating women like a temporal piece of meat is disgusting. I can understand it a little if a guy or gal needs to end a marriage because of whatever, but to be as low as to cheat while in a marriage is scum and shows that the couple were not ready for marriage in the beginning. Many times (not all) a man is able to move on and get over it, but the lasting scars that we have seen abused women carry is a real shame. There are some real lovely ladies out there that will never trust again all because men had to treat them like possessions and not treasures. "Spoken like a true gent. A TRUE gent. You certainly know what you're talking about. "
I wish I could take credit for coming up with this on my own, but the credit is due to the quality women (starting with my mother) I have been blessed with. I didn't have very good male role models growing up, but the women in my life have been exceptional. Because of this I think even early on the "Man Game" was not very appealing to me. This is no kidding, I refused to hang out with "the trash talk guys" through my years in school and when I started touring. It made no sense to me to put down people period but especially these beautiful fasinating creatures that have me feeling so funny inside. To cheat is being totally counter productive. Not only for the woman but for me as well. Don't get me wrong, I did go through my wild period (single years) but I'm fortunate it came and left quickly and never showed it's ugly head in my marriage. And believe me with both her and I being in the entertainment business it is all around you. Here's the thing though, I had the hots for my wife from day one till day last and never considered the other side of the tracks in a marriage being an option. Why would it be? Are cheaters stupid or what. |
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I have a question for you guys.
Why do you think so many fathers teach their sons to be abusive womanizers? You don't see moms teaching their daughters to be sluts. (the term we give girls deflowered) Ok, I understand that both men and women cheat, but guys are actually taught it's cool to score and bang a few girls before settling down. While a mother is picking out white wedding dresses dads are building a stud farm. I'm sure there are some dads with values out there but being honest with you I didn't run into any of them growing up. The dads I knew were sex coaches, or at least were kinda proud to see their sons getting laid. We act like all things are equal between men and women but at least from what I have seen there are clearly two standards here. Sorry guys but it's not equal and we are to blame for a lot of crap we bring into the relationship. You can call it nature all you want but I see it as a taught trait handed down from father to son as if it is a good thing to treat our women with less respect than we treat ourselves as men. |
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I agree that nurture has a lot to do with the way that a man approaches his relationship with women. The desire of a man's flesh is also a major factor. By "flesh" I mean a man's conscious desires.
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Someone mentioned earlier about mens genes taking over. It is actually a biological fact that men are built to inseminate as many women as possible in their lifetime which goes against nature and comes from societorial nurture. Most of the men I know who have cheated done it because they are not getting their needs met by the women they are with. I have only had three serious relationships in my life. I have been faithful in all three even though sometimes things have been hard. Most mens needs are really quite simple but a lot of women do not understand that. Hence they stray and believe me I have been tempted. OK...I'll bite. So, what does that say for the man who has an awesome wife in every way except maybe she cannot meet one of his needs. Let's go with sex because thats what Spider likes. Let's say this woman has an emotional or physical reason she cannot have sex. But she meets ALL of his other needs. She is faithful, competent, loyal and loving. Does that mean genetically he is destined to cheat on her because he isn't getting any? Now lets flip that. What about the woman who's husband has a physical or emotional reason he no longer wants to put out. But hes a good man to her otherwise. Does she have cause to cheat? I guarantee you in these scenerios, it is more likely the man will cheat than the woman. |
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If a man can not control his toy he shouldn't be married. A lot of guys are selfish animals. That's fine if you choose to be that way but don't take it out on your marriage. I know women cheat too, but men can be pigs, thinking they have a God given right to be abusive toward women. Treating women like a temporal piece of meat is disgusting. I can understand it a little if a guy or gal needs to end a marriage because of whatever, but to be as low as to cheat while in a marriage is scum and shows that the couple were not ready for marriage in the beginning. Many times (not all) a man is able to move on and get over it, but the lasting scars that we have seen abused women carry is a real shame. There are some real lovely ladies out there that will never trust again all because men had to treat them like possessions and not treasures. I have never been cheated on, why? Partly because I don't hang out with guys who talk about boning anything that walks. I don't get involved in those behind the women's back talk. I'm not a poster child for perfection (far from it) but I know the guy game exist and I totally disapprove of it. If you want to be a player than go do it, but we have no right to put another through torture. Too bad there aren't more like you out there. |
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I'm starting to think some of these women are just being obtuse. You've hit the nail on the head. From TBRich: "But basically wrmnnaturl is correct- your behaviour is your choice based on your emotions which are based on your thoughts. Whether you are aware of them or not. Using psychology as an excuse is BS, using it to help make your life better, is what it is for. The choice is yours to make and remember you only have control over yourself, not others." TBRich is a man, and so am I. Yet, he and I agree with the women here. A man does make a choice when it comes to a relationship between him and a woman. The "DNA-made-me-do-it" hypothesis has a glaring flaw. It does not explain why a man would have multiple sex partners and yet not impregnate all of those sex partners. If DNA causes a man to desire multiple sex partners, then what causes the same man to try to avoid impregnating those same sex partners? This flaw is made worse by the fact that homosexual men seek male sex partners. The last time that I checked, one must have a sex partner of the opposite gender in order to spread one's DNA. What I meant by the obtuse remark was all the men understand the points we've made even if we don't agree. Whereas many of the women are still repeating the same things and going in circles. Either they understand and are playing a game or they're unable to understand or they refuse to understand. At first I thought it was me. I thought I wasn't explaining clearly. But, when I read posts by the other men and saw they understood my points I knew it had to be something with the women. To continue would be beating a dead horse. |
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