TexasScoundral....if your theories (and I use them loosely) are true, please explain why gay men cheat and furthermore why men are gay? If the purpose of cheating is to spread their seed and find increasingly more worthy mates, homosexuality does not perpetuate the human race.

I am so tired of people, men and women making excuses but what simply boils down to is men are just that simple. Women tend to complicate obvious answers with semantics. It truly isn't that deep. Men just aren't that deep a people.

Then you read something into it that wasn't meant.

What exactly did you mean, then? I'm sure you can explain it better than you did before, so that we all understand completely. :)

First of all, these aren't my theories. I'm talking about evolutionary psychology. Google it.

The rest of your post is off topic.

The references da Scoundrel cites are often used in basic PUA training. HOWEVER, there is a BIG difference in being a good PUA and being able to maintain a long-term relationship.

What are your own thoughts on the subject?

I wouldn't call it basic. But yes, that's one of the first places I learned about it.

And you're right, what attracts us is often different than what keeps us together longterm.

You're basing your thoughts on PUA training?

On homosexuality? I was going to get involved in your thread about it, but then I saw it was moved to the religion forum. Sense many of them refuse to acknowledge evolution, there is no common ground to start from and therefore any argument falls on deaf ears.

I haven't looked into how it relates to this topic. But, my guess is that it's simply a mutation like red hair or green eyes and doesn't really effect the overall concepts other than who one is attracted to. We all want to mate with someone we find attractive. Whether this results in offspring or not is irrelevant. What motivates us is the drive to connect.

No one thinks "that person is genetically superior therefore I want to have babies with them." We think "wow, he/she is hott! I want to do naughty things with him/her." But, the reason we find them attractive is because they ARE genetically superior in some way compared to the competition. Or at least they've found a way to make others think they are.

No, that where I first heard of it. I have sense looked into it deeper and find it interesting. I have always been interested in what motivates people to do things.

I also looked into why some people follow a cult leader and do crazy things like kill their children.

On the topic of this thread - cheating.

yeah! we should blame our parents for having taught us to be good!! LOL

Now seriously, I totally agree with you

I don't necessarily agree with this. Some men aren't deep, just as some women aren't deep. Some men cheat, just as some women cheat. Some men will try to justify their cheating with reasons that texasscoundral has brought up and I'm sure some women will do the same. What it comes down to is everyone is not the same. All men aren't going to do the same thing, just as all women aren't.

If someone cheats, it's because they made the choice to do so. Trying to justify it just doesn't work.

It doesn't effect the overall concepts.

Wow, you still don't get it.

What if we draw an analogy with Pica. Often people perform this behaviour because there is something missing and they are driven to do it, with the motivation not being conscious.

No...it is most definitely not off topic. You claim that men cheat to find younger, more virile women to reproduce with. If that were the case, gay men do not reproduce together. So therefore, why do they cheat? If the purpose of sex in your words, is to spread seed in a primitive need to perpetuate the human race with the most worthy candidates, why are men gay?

The root motivation is "To find more recipients for your seed", but the thought will be "I'm horny". Most men who sleep around DON'T want children. But their body doesn't care what the man wants, it's running on ancient programming. So a straight man will seek out multiple female partners and a gay man will seek out multiple gay partners. You are going to have to stop being so literal about these motivations. We are talking about subconscious motivations for the survival of the species, not plans for Friday night. I would imagine very few men go out on any given night and thinks to himself "I want to get a woman pregnant", but the guy doesn't HAVE to think that, because that's what his body is trying to do regardless of what he wants.

No, you keep saying all these ideas you're stating in this thread are not your own. So, I was asking for your own thoughts on cheating.