Topic: Men
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Tue 07/03/12 01:32 PM




TexasScoundral....if your theories (and I use them loosely) are true, please explain why gay men cheat and furthermore why men are gay? If the purpose of cheating is to spread their seed and find increasingly more worthy mates, homosexuality does not perpetuate the human race.


First of all, these aren't my theories. I'm talking about evolutionary psychology. Google it.

The rest of your post is off topic.


No...it is most definitely not off topic. You claim that men cheat to find younger, more virile women to reproduce with. If that were the case, gay men do not reproduce together. So therefore, why do they cheat? If the purpose of sex in your words, is to spread seed in a primitive need to perpetuate the human race with the most worthy candidates, why are men gay?


The root motivation is "To find more recipients for your seed", but the thought will be "I'm horny". Most men who sleep around DON'T want children. But their body doesn't care what the man wants, it's running on ancient programming. So a straight man will seek out multiple female partners and a gay man will seek out multiple gay partners. You are going to have to stop being so literal about these motivations. We are talking about subconscious motivations for the survival of the species, not plans for Friday night. I would imagine very few men go out on any given night and thinks to himself "I want to get a woman pregnant", but the guy doesn't HAVE to think that, because that's what his body is trying to do regardless of what he wants.


YES!!!!

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Tue 07/03/12 01:35 PM
Edited by tautologic on Tue 07/03/12 01:36 PM

The root motivation is "To find more recipients for your seed", but the thought will be "I'm horny". Most men who sleep around DON'T want children. But their body doesn't care what the man wants, it's running on ancient programming. So a straight man will seek out multiple female partners and a gay man will seek out multiple gay partners. You are going to have to stop being so literal about these motivations. We are talking about subconscious motivations for the survival of the species, not plans for Friday night. I would imagine very few men go out on any given night and thinks to himself "I want to get a woman pregnant", but the guy doesn't HAVE to think that, because that's what his body is trying to do regardless of what he wants.


You see, this is why we are superior to animals. Humans don't just run on instinct. This theory is absurd. Men cheat because they are selfish and our society allows it. Could you imagine what would happen if all women banded together and refused to put out with a cheater? Men would tow the line pretty darn quick I think.

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Tue 07/03/12 01:46 PM







TexasScoundral....if your theories (and I use them loosely) are true, please explain why gay men cheat and furthermore why men are gay? If the purpose of cheating is to spread their seed and find increasingly more worthy mates, homosexuality does not perpetuate the human race.


First of all, these aren't my theories. I'm talking about evolutionary psychology. Google it.

The rest of your post is off topic.


What are your own thoughts on the subject?


On homosexuality? I was going to get involved in your thread about it, but then I saw it was moved to the religion forum. Sense many of them refuse to acknowledge evolution, there is no common ground to start from and therefore any argument falls on deaf ears.

I haven't looked into how it relates to this topic. But, my guess is that it's simply a mutation like red hair or green eyes and doesn't really effect the overall concepts other than who one is attracted to. We all want to mate with someone we find attractive. Whether this results in offspring or not is irrelevant. What motivates us is the drive to connect.

No one thinks "that person is genetically superior therefore I want to have babies with them." We think "wow, he/she is hott! I want to do naughty things with him/her." But, the reason we find them attractive is because they ARE genetically superior in some way compared to the competition. Or at least they've found a way to make others think they are.


On the topic of this thread - cheating.


It doesn't effect the overall concepts.


No, you keep saying all these ideas you're stating in this thread are not your own. So, I was asking for your own thoughts on cheating.


The ideas aren't mine. However, I agree with them. I think people are mostly dominated by instincts. I think our genetic programming is really in control and we're little more than robots used to make DNA copies.

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Tue 07/03/12 01:50 PM


The root motivation is "To find more recipients for your seed", but the thought will be "I'm horny". Most men who sleep around DON'T want children. But their body doesn't care what the man wants, it's running on ancient programming. So a straight man will seek out multiple female partners and a gay man will seek out multiple gay partners. You are going to have to stop being so literal about these motivations. We are talking about subconscious motivations for the survival of the species, not plans for Friday night. I would imagine very few men go out on any given night and thinks to himself "I want to get a woman pregnant", but the guy doesn't HAVE to think that, because that's what his body is trying to do regardless of what he wants.


You see, this is why we are superior to animals. Humans don't just run on instinct. This theory is absurd. Men cheat because they are selfish and our society allows it. Could you imagine what would happen if all women banded together and refused to put out with a cheater? Men would tow the line pretty darn quick I think.


Absurd? Pretty strong word.

Why are men selfish?

Why does society allow it?

Why don't women ban together?

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Tue 07/03/12 02:08 PM



The root motivation is "To find more recipients for your seed", but the thought will be "I'm horny". Most men who sleep around DON'T want children. But their body doesn't care what the man wants, it's running on ancient programming. So a straight man will seek out multiple female partners and a gay man will seek out multiple gay partners. You are going to have to stop being so literal about these motivations. We are talking about subconscious motivations for the survival of the species, not plans for Friday night. I would imagine very few men go out on any given night and thinks to himself "I want to get a woman pregnant", but the guy doesn't HAVE to think that, because that's what his body is trying to do regardless of what he wants.


You see, this is why we are superior to animals. Humans don't just run on instinct. This theory is absurd. Men cheat because they are selfish and our society allows it. Could you imagine what would happen if all women banded together and refused to put out with a cheater? Men would tow the line pretty darn quick I think.


Absurd? Pretty strong word.

Why are men selfish?

Why does society allow it?

Why don't women ban together?


How are they going to band together to stop you and others from cheating and trying to justify it?

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Tue 07/03/12 02:16 PM




The root motivation is "To find more recipients for your seed", but the thought will be "I'm horny". Most men who sleep around DON'T want children. But their body doesn't care what the man wants, it's running on ancient programming. So a straight man will seek out multiple female partners and a gay man will seek out multiple gay partners. You are going to have to stop being so literal about these motivations. We are talking about subconscious motivations for the survival of the species, not plans for Friday night. I would imagine very few men go out on any given night and thinks to himself "I want to get a woman pregnant", but the guy doesn't HAVE to think that, because that's what his body is trying to do regardless of what he wants.


You see, this is why we are superior to animals. Humans don't just run on instinct. This theory is absurd. Men cheat because they are selfish and our society allows it. Could you imagine what would happen if all women banded together and refused to put out with a cheater? Men would tow the line pretty darn quick I think.


Absurd? Pretty strong word.

Why are men selfish?

Why does society allow it?

Why don't women ban together?


How are they going to band together to stop you and others from cheating and trying to justify it?


How is women's problem.

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Tue 07/03/12 02:33 PM




The root motivation is "To find more recipients for your seed", but the thought will be "I'm horny". Most men who sleep around DON'T want children. But their body doesn't care what the man wants, it's running on ancient programming. So a straight man will seek out multiple female partners and a gay man will seek out multiple gay partners. You are going to have to stop being so literal about these motivations. We are talking about subconscious motivations for the survival of the species, not plans for Friday night. I would imagine very few men go out on any given night and thinks to himself "I want to get a woman pregnant", but the guy doesn't HAVE to think that, because that's what his body is trying to do regardless of what he wants.


You see, this is why we are superior to animals. Humans don't just run on instinct. This theory is absurd. Men cheat because they are selfish and our society allows it. Could you imagine what would happen if all women banded together and refused to put out with a cheater? Men would tow the line pretty darn quick I think.


Absurd? Pretty strong word.

Why are men selfish?

Why does society allow it?

Why don't women ban together?


How are they going to band together to stop you and others from cheating and trying to justify it?


Like this.....


Crossing the divide: Women finally out-earning men?
Jenna Charlton| Jun 14, 2012 11:50 AM


It's taken awhile, but slowly and surely women are closing the gender earnings gap. Compensation is finally catching up to workforce composition. Studies show that the workforce is almost equally comprised of men and women. With the labour force evening out, paycheques have had some catching up to do. Women are demanding and are finally receiving higher salaries, at times out-earning men.

It’s about time, right? It’s only taken….forever. But as generations of women have increasingly placed greater importance on post-secondary education and careers, equal pay for equal qualifications and work is finally happening. We’re not entirely there yet - on average women who work in comparable roles to men may still earn less - but we’re moving in the right direction.

According to a Pew Research Center study, “young women now surpass young men in the importance they place on having a high-paying career or profession.” Women entering similar roles to men should have always been paid the same, but now as more women than men are increasingly entering high-paying careers we’re starting to see a shift.

I have a couple of friends who out-earn their male partners, and are considered the household breadwinner. This is a huge reversal from those 1950s images of the so-called picture perfect nuclear family. The topic of women earning more than men has been making headlines for the past couple of years. In a 2011 article for The Atlantic, writer Kate Bolick describes male economic dominance as "passing into extinction."

The recent economic collapse didn’t help matters for men. It’s been reported that more men have lost their jobs over the ensuing years than women. A recent Maclean’s article states that, “job losses during the last recession (and the two before it) were mostly incurred by men, who dominate the hardest hit sectors such as construction and manufacturing.” Women are starting to make greater gains in fields such as “medicine, law, upper management and high finance,” and in doing so out earning men and holding on to their jobs during difficult economic times.

This economic shift is also causing societal changes. Women are not getting married as early as they were 50 years ago. Bolick writes that, “women don’t need husbands in the way they used to,” which could account for why “the number of single adults rose to 50% in 2010, compared to 33% in 1950.”

Times are changing. Women are movin’ on up and everyone is adjusting. There are a more stay at home Dads now than there were 10 years ago, and if the studies are any indication of economic, societal and household trends we could see a lot more role reversals in the future. We all still have a ways to go in regard to complete equal pay for equal work but progress is forging ahead. As the workforce evens out, paycheques have no choice but to follow.

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Tue 07/03/12 03:04 PM





The root motivation is "To find more recipients for your seed", but the thought will be "I'm horny". Most men who sleep around DON'T want children. But their body doesn't care what the man wants, it's running on ancient programming. So a straight man will seek out multiple female partners and a gay man will seek out multiple gay partners. You are going to have to stop being so literal about these motivations. We are talking about subconscious motivations for the survival of the species, not plans for Friday night. I would imagine very few men go out on any given night and thinks to himself "I want to get a woman pregnant", but the guy doesn't HAVE to think that, because that's what his body is trying to do regardless of what he wants.


You see, this is why we are superior to animals. Humans don't just run on instinct. This theory is absurd. Men cheat because they are selfish and our society allows it. Could you imagine what would happen if all women banded together and refused to put out with a cheater? Men would tow the line pretty darn quick I think.


Absurd? Pretty strong word.

Why are men selfish?

Why does society allow it?

Why don't women ban together?


How are they going to band together to stop you and others from cheating and trying to justify it?


How is women's problem.


It's the fault of women that you can't stop cheating?

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Tue 07/03/12 04:26 PM






The root motivation is "To find more recipients for your seed", but the thought will be "I'm horny". Most men who sleep around DON'T want children. But their body doesn't care what the man wants, it's running on ancient programming. So a straight man will seek out multiple female partners and a gay man will seek out multiple gay partners. You are going to have to stop being so literal about these motivations. We are talking about subconscious motivations for the survival of the species, not plans for Friday night. I would imagine very few men go out on any given night and thinks to himself "I want to get a woman pregnant", but the guy doesn't HAVE to think that, because that's what his body is trying to do regardless of what he wants.


You see, this is why we are superior to animals. Humans don't just run on instinct. This theory is absurd. Men cheat because they are selfish and our society allows it. Could you imagine what would happen if all women banded together and refused to put out with a cheater? Men would tow the line pretty darn quick I think.


Absurd? Pretty strong word.

Why are men selfish?

Why does society allow it?

Why don't women ban together?


How are they going to band together to stop you and others from cheating and trying to justify it?


That is women's problem.


It's the fault of women that you can't stop cheating?


No, it's women's fault for putting up with it. Men can only get away with what women allow.

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Tue 07/03/12 04:51 PM
Ah. Yeah, I wouldn't put up with it.

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Tue 07/03/12 06:59 PM
People get into relationships because it supplies them with something they want.

They get out of them because their wants are not being met.

Men and women "cheat" in relationships because they perceive something in the relationship is lacking.


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Wed 07/04/12 09:37 AM

People get into relationships because it supplies them with something they want.

They get out of them because their wants are not being met.

Men and women "cheat" in relationships because they perceive something in the relationship is lacking.




True sometimes. But this leads to the whole societal problem of "me first" and "new, better, gotta have it". We are a materialistic and selfish society. Our relationships reflect that societal ill.

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Wed 07/04/12 09:39 AM


Crossing the divide: Women finally out-earning men?
Jenna Charlton| Jun 14, 2012 11:50 AM


It's taken awhile, but slowly and surely women are closing the gender earnings gap. Compensation is finally catching up to workforce composition. Studies show that the workforce is almost equally comprised of men and women. With the labour force evening out, paycheques have had some catching up to do. Women are demanding and are finally receiving higher salaries, at times out-earning men.

It’s about time, right? It’s only taken….forever. But as generations of women have increasingly placed greater importance on post-secondary education and careers, equal pay for equal qualifications and work is finally happening. We’re not entirely there yet - on average women who work in comparable roles to men may still earn less - but we’re moving in the right direction.

According to a Pew Research Center study, “young women now surpass young men in the importance they place on having a high-paying career or profession.” Women entering similar roles to men should have always been paid the same, but now as more women than men are increasingly entering high-paying careers we’re starting to see a shift.

I have a couple of friends who out-earn their male partners, and are considered the household breadwinner. This is a huge reversal from those 1950s images of the so-called picture perfect nuclear family. The topic of women earning more than men has been making headlines for the past couple of years. In a 2011 article for The Atlantic, writer Kate Bolick describes male economic dominance as "passing into extinction."

The recent economic collapse didn’t help matters for men. It’s been reported that more men have lost their jobs over the ensuing years than women. A recent Maclean’s article states that, “job losses during the last recession (and the two before it) were mostly incurred by men, who dominate the hardest hit sectors such as construction and manufacturing.” Women are starting to make greater gains in fields such as “medicine, law, upper management and high finance,” and in doing so out earning men and holding on to their jobs during difficult economic times.

This economic shift is also causing societal changes. Women are not getting married as early as they were 50 years ago. Bolick writes that, “women don’t need husbands in the way they used to,” which could account for why “the number of single adults rose to 50% in 2010, compared to 33% in 1950.”

Times are changing. Women are movin’ on up and everyone is adjusting. There are a more stay at home Dads now than there were 10 years ago, and if the studies are any indication of economic, societal and household trends we could see a lot more role reversals in the future. We all still have a ways to go in regard to complete equal pay for equal work but progress is forging ahead. As the workforce evens out, paycheques have no choice but to follow.



This is a good point. When men are more dependent upon women to survive, it will definitely change the dynamic between the sexes. However, our natural differences won't change. Women are genetically different than men. We are simply more emotional, nurturing and multifunctional than men. Whereas men are more practical and solution oriented.

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Wed 07/04/12 10:32 AM
What it all comes down to is that we (men and women) don't really need each other anymore. That's why I'm starting to think love and long term committed relationships are outdated concepts.

What if we just decided to be happy on our own and didn't put any expectations on each other? What if we stopped caring about what each other did? We could spend time together doing what we do and then leave each other alone to do whatever.

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Wed 07/04/12 11:24 AM


What it all comes down to is that we (men and women) don't really need each other anymore. That's why I'm starting to think love and long term committed relationships are outdated concepts.

What if we just decided to be happy on our own and didn't put any expectations on each other? What if we stopped caring about what each other did? We could spend time together doing what we do and then leave each other alone to do whatever.


I have seen actual couples with long lasting love. As in: endured the decades of their lives. They were lucky. They didnt 'need' to marry. They just wanted to share their lives forever. I know it exists but there is no more proof such a thing exists, as the personal spiritual beliefs we hold. It will have to be a personal faith we all decide for ourselves.


My mother and father were married for 60 years, until my mother died. I don't know why or how they stayed together other than force of will. They both decided to commit to each other and stuck to their word.

I also know a few happy couples today. But, it doesn't seem to be working for a lot of us. I've recently come to understand that I'm really happiest on my own. I don't like the chaos that relationships seem to bring.

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Wed 07/04/12 11:32 AM


The root motivation is "To find more recipients for your seed", but the thought will be "I'm horny". Most men who sleep around DON'T want children. But their body doesn't care what the man wants, it's running on ancient programming. So a straight man will seek out multiple female partners and a gay man will seek out multiple gay partners. You are going to have to stop being so literal about these motivations. We are talking about subconscious motivations for the survival of the species, not plans for Friday night. I would imagine very few men go out on any given night and thinks to himself "I want to get a woman pregnant", but the guy doesn't HAVE to think that, because that's what his body is trying to do regardless of what he wants.


You see, this is why we are superior to animals. Humans don't just run on instinct. This theory is absurd. Men cheat because they are selfish and our society allows it. Could you imagine what would happen if all women banded together and refused to put out with a cheater? Men would tow the line pretty darn quick I think.


we are superior to animals because we have aposable thumbs smokin glasses

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Wed 07/04/12 12:18 PM

Ladies, you're not going to like this.

Men don't have mid life crises. What happens is his woman reaches a point in her life when it's unlikely she could have healthy offspring. When that happens a man's evolutionary programming takes over and he starts looking for a woman that can produce healthy offspring.

It doesn't matter if he wants more children or not. His programming will still cause him to desire younger women. It's normal, natural and makes perfect sense from a long term survival of his genes point of view.

So, a 25 year old man married to a 45 year old woman is more likely to have a "mid life crises" than a 45 year old man married to a 25 year old woman.


And what about the men who marry/partner and stay faithful with women who can't have children? Or who are with women who they know there is a high chance of their children being born with a birth defect?

What about younger men (20's & 30's) who fall in love with older women (latter 40's and above)? They know these women will not be looking to have more (or any) children and yet that is who they choose to stay with.

According to your theory/belief/reasoning, why would TheCaptain choose me, a woman who is three years older than him, instead of a 20 year old?

Maybe it is because some men think with the big head and only use the smaller one to please the partner that they are committed to/in love with unlike animals who are only capable of choosing partners for the propagation of the species.

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Wed 07/04/12 12:25 PM


Ladies, you're not going to like this.

Men don't have mid life crises. What happens is his woman reaches a point in her life when it's unlikely she could have healthy offspring. When that happens a man's evolutionary programming takes over and he starts looking for a woman that can produce healthy offspring.

It doesn't matter if he wants more children or not. His programming will still cause him to desire younger women. It's normal, natural and makes perfect sense from a long term survival of his genes point of view.

So, a 25 year old man married to a 45 year old woman is more likely to have a "mid life crises" than a 45 year old man married to a 25 year old woman.


And what about the men who marry/partner and stay faithful with women who can't have children? Or who are with women who they know there is a high chance of their children being born with a birth defect?

What about younger men (20's & 30's) who fall in love with older women (latter 40's and above)? They know these women will not be looking to have more (or any) children and yet that is who they choose to stay with.

According to your theory/belief/reasoning, why would TheCaptain choose me, a woman who is three years older than him, instead of a 20 year old?

Maybe it is because some men think with the big head and only use the smaller one to please the partner that they are committed to/in love with unlike animals who are only capable of choosing partners for the propagation of the species.


As I have said a number of times THESE ARE NOT MY THEORIES. This is evolutionary psychology 101.

I answered your question about young men and older women in the post you quoted. Obviously you didn't read it.

Everything else has already been covered sense that post.

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Wed 07/04/12 12:39 PM
Edited by eileena9 on Wed 07/04/12 12:51 PM


As I have said a number of times THESE ARE NOT MY THEORIES. This is evolutionary psychology 101.

I answered your question about young men and older women in the post you quoted. Obviously you didn't read it.

Everything else has already been covered sense that post.


But it is your belief or your reasoning that is why I wrote it as "theory/belief/reasoning", is it not? So using that as a guideline, why would he choose me and not a younger woman as that theory states?

I did read what you wrote, so I don't appreciate that you claim I didn't. I asked a question about why would a younger man be with an older woman in a COMMITTED relationship if that theory was true.

Also what about the first part of my questions, I haven't seen any other post about a man who was with a woman who didn't want or couldn't have children and his staying faithful to her. According to what you have typed, those men should be out screwing around with younger women just because their partner is not capable, but yet they stay together and monogamous.

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Wed 07/04/12 12:52 PM



Ladies, you're not going to like this.

Men don't have mid life crises. What happens is his woman reaches a point in her life when it's unlikely she could have healthy offspring. When that happens a man's evolutionary programming takes over and he starts looking for a woman that can produce healthy offspring.

It doesn't matter if he wants more children or not. His programming will still cause him to desire younger women. It's normal, natural and makes perfect sense from a long term survival of his genes point of view.

So, a 25 year old man married to a 45 year old woman is more likely to have a "mid life crises" than a 45 year old man married to a 25 year old woman.


And what about the men who marry/partner and stay faithful with women who can't have children? Or who are with women who they know there is a high chance of their children being born with a birth defect?

What about younger men (20's & 30's) who fall in love with older women (latter 40's and above)? They know these women will not be looking to have more (or any) children and yet that is who they choose to stay with.

According to your theory/belief/reasoning, why would TheCaptain choose me, a woman who is three years older than him, instead of a 20 year old?

Maybe it is because some men think with the big head and only use the smaller one to please the partner that they are committed to/in love with unlike animals who are only capable of choosing partners for the propagation of the species.


As I have said a number of times THESE ARE NOT MY THEORIES. This is evolutionary psychology 101.

I answered your question about young men and older women in the post you quoted. Obviously you didn't read it.

Everything else has already been covered sense that post.


Since.....