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POSTED BY COWBOY 3: I never referred to God as a "Thing". POSTED BY COWBOY 2: Third definition of god is as follows "A person or thing of supreme value." POSTED BY COWBOY 1: God is a person POSTED BY COWBOY 3: Jesus is not God incarnated on Earth you contradict yourself in every post as if you are three seperate people,...."Trinity Syndrome" gone arwy How is there a contradiction? Where did I say in any of those Jesus was God incarnated? In the definition says a PERSON or thing of supreme value. You're the one that choose to pick THING. So please show us the contradiction. didn't you claim that Jesus created the World ...but now claim that Jesus is not God incarnated on Earth Jesus is OUR God, he is not the father though. --------------------- Genesis 2:4 4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, --------------------- Notice LORD God. Jesus is our lord god. Cowboy, Jesus is our LORD GOD (not lord god). Jesus is just as much God as the Father. (God the Father gave all the GLORY to God the Son, because of what he did on that cross for us). Jesus is LORD . Again...although Jesus is not the Father , Jesus is still just as much God AS the Father. Simply because ... we serve ONLY ONE GOD. |
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Cowboy.....JESUS IS GOD INCARNATE. HOWEVER..... Jesus Is God the SON Incarnate...NOT God the FATHER Incarnate. Remember now...... There is ONLY ONE GOD ( the three persons in that ONE Godhead,....still make up only ONE GOD . (Remember we went thru this before, Cowby?) 
Again.... ...Jesus is God the SON(NOT God the Father) who became Incarnate. Also, because there is only One God, Jesus is as much God as the Father. And since there is ONLY... ONE.... GOD, it is ok to simply say, God became Incarnate. But in order to prevent further confusuion: the Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father..... and the Holy Spirit is not the Father and the Father is not the Holy Spirit.... and Jesus is not the Holy Spirit andf the Holy Spirit is not Jesus.... YET....all three(Father, Son, Holy Spirit make up ONE GOD. Also.... Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... WHY? Again....because we serve ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD. 
Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... Interesting you mention this. I've been recently studying this particular thing due to a finding of something I hadn't seen before. In genesis talking about the creation, before 2:4 it only says God created this, and God created that. Then starting at Genesis 2:4 it starts saying LORD God created this and LORD God created that. So obviously it's talking about two different entities or their would have been no need to make different titles for them. And if they are speaking of two different entities they are not one as in one being. They are one with their will, one with their actions, one with their desires, one with their love for us. But yet they are separate entities, separate beings. Cowboy,That is God the Father talking to God the Word(later become flesh). 
Notice also the word, "WE" in Genesis..... as in," We will make man in OUR Image..." The "we" is the three in one Godhead....yet ONE GOD. Cowboy ...each person of the Godhead is distinct in its place in the Godhead....YET EQUAL.... and each person remains that person....YET....all three make up ONE GOD. God the Father is Father, God the Son is Son God the Holy Spirit is Holy Sprit...each with a distinct function. YET it pleased the Father to give ALL GLORY to the SON.....but again, The Father isa still to be reverenced as Father. Even so , we still serve ONLY ONE GOD.
Cowboy,That is God the Father talking to God the Word(later become flesh).flowerforyou flowerforyou Notice also the word, "WE" in Genesis..... as in," We will make man in OUR Image..." The "we" is the three in one Godhead....yet ONE GOD. Yes they are all God. The definition of God is superior being, all three are superior to the human race, they are all God. But that does not mean they are all one being. And if this is what you were saying I'm sorry, it slipped right over my head. The "trinity" is not true. They are not all three one being, they are all one "Godhead" if you wish to call it that, yes. They are all three superior and in control of the world with the same will. But nevertheless one more time, all three are separate entities that have the same will. |
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POSTED BY COWBOY 3: I never referred to God as a "Thing". POSTED BY COWBOY 2: Third definition of god is as follows "A person or thing of supreme value." POSTED BY COWBOY 1: God is a person POSTED BY COWBOY 3: Jesus is not God incarnated on Earth you contradict yourself in every post as if you are three seperate people,...."Trinity Syndrome" gone arwy How is there a contradiction? Where did I say in any of those Jesus was God incarnated? In the definition says a PERSON or thing of supreme value. You're the one that choose to pick THING. So please show us the contradiction. didn't you claim that Jesus created the World ...but now claim that Jesus is not God incarnated on Earth Jesus is OUR God, he is not the father though. --------------------- Genesis 2:4 4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, --------------------- Notice LORD God. Jesus is our lord god. Cowboy, Jesus is our LORD GOD (not lord god). Jesus is just as much God as the Father. (God the Father gave all the GLORY to God the Son, because of what he did on that cross for us). Jesus is LORD . Again...although Jesus is not the Father , Jesus is still just as much God AS the Father. Simply because ... we serve ONLY ONE GOD. Yes they are both God. They are both superior beings to us. They are the one's in control, they are the creators, they are the rulers. But again, they are all three separate entities. We serve one God yes. We do not serve Jesus, we do not serve the Holy Ghost. We serve God the father through Jesus the son. |
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Cowboy.....JESUS IS GOD INCARNATE. HOWEVER..... Jesus Is God the SON Incarnate...NOT God the FATHER Incarnate. Remember now...... There is ONLY ONE GOD ( the three persons in that ONE Godhead,....still make up only ONE GOD . (Remember we went thru this before, Cowby?)
Again.... ...Jesus is God the SON(NOT God the Father) who became Incarnate. Also, because there is only One God, Jesus is as much God as the Father. And since there is ONLY... ONE.... GOD, it is ok to simply say, God became Incarnate. But in order to prevent further confusuion: the Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father..... and the Holy Spirit is not the Father and the Father is not the Holy Spirit.... and Jesus is not the Holy Spirit andf the Holy Spirit is not Jesus.... YET....all three(Father, Son, Holy Spirit make up ONE GOD. Also.... Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... WHY? Again....because we serve ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.
Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... Interesting you mention this. I've been recently studying this particular thing due to a finding of something I hadn't seen before. In genesis talking about the creation, before 2:4 it only says God created this, and God created that. Then starting at Genesis 2:4 it starts saying LORD God created this and LORD God created that. So obviously it's talking about two different entities or their would have been no need to make different titles for them. And if they are speaking of two different entities they are not one as in one being. They are one with their will, one with their actions, one with their desires, one with their love for us. But yet they are separate entities, separate beings. Isaiah 41:13 13For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee. Definition of god is supreme being. So with that we can gather Jesus is our supreme being. There is ONE SUPREME BEING. ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. God the Father is also referrred to as Lord. Why? Because There is only ONE GOD. The 3 distinct persons of the Godhead(Father, Son, Holy Sprit)make up that ONE SUPREME being....ONE ALMIGHTY GOD. Sometimes Lord refers to the Father...sometimes lord refers to the Son in scriptures..but the whole point is....we are stil talking about One GOD. There is ONE GOD. (Father ,Son ,Holy Spirit ...3 distinct persons making up ONE GOD. In other words, Jesus is not a just a little god...no....Jesus is as much God as the Father... Jesus is the WORD....who was with God from the very beginning. (repeationg this again so it will hopefully become very clrsr)
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Cowboy.....JESUS IS GOD INCARNATE. HOWEVER..... Jesus Is God the SON Incarnate...NOT God the FATHER Incarnate. Remember now...... There is ONLY ONE GOD ( the three persons in that ONE Godhead,....still make up only ONE GOD . (Remember we went thru this before, Cowby?)
Again.... ...Jesus is God the SON(NOT God the Father) who became Incarnate. Also, because there is only One God, Jesus is as much God as the Father. And since there is ONLY... ONE.... GOD, it is ok to simply say, God became Incarnate. But in order to prevent further confusuion: the Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father..... and the Holy Spirit is not the Father and the Father is not the Holy Spirit.... and Jesus is not the Holy Spirit andf the Holy Spirit is not Jesus.... YET....all three(Father, Son, Holy Spirit make up ONE GOD. Also.... Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... WHY? Again....because we serve ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.
Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... Interesting you mention this. I've been recently studying this particular thing due to a finding of something I hadn't seen before. In genesis talking about the creation, before 2:4 it only says God created this, and God created that. Then starting at Genesis 2:4 it starts saying LORD God created this and LORD God created that. So obviously it's talking about two different entities or their would have been no need to make different titles for them. And if they are speaking of two different entities they are not one as in one being. They are one with their will, one with their actions, one with their desires, one with their love for us. But yet they are separate entities, separate beings. Isaiah 41:13 13For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee. Definition of god is supreme being. So with that we can gather Jesus is our supreme being. There is ONE SUPREME BEING. ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. God the Father is also referrred to as Lord. Why? Because There is only ONE GOD. The 3 distinct persons of the Godhead(Father, Son, Holy Sprit)make up that ONE SUPREME being....ONE ALMIGHTY GOD. Sometimes Lord refers to the Father...sometimes lord refers to the Son in scriptures..but the whole point is....we are stil talking about One GOD. There is ONE GOD. (Father ,Son ,Holy Spirit ...3 distinct persons making up ONE GOD. In other words, Jesus is not a just a little god...no....Jesus is as much God as the Father... Jesus is the WORD....who was with God from the very beginning. (repeationg this again so it will hopefully become very clrsr)
Still doesn't make sense. If they were one entity, one exact being, it would be lying to say Jesus prayed to his father and or spoke to his father. |
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Cowboy.....JESUS IS GOD INCARNATE. HOWEVER..... Jesus Is God the SON Incarnate...NOT God the FATHER Incarnate. Remember now...... There is ONLY ONE GOD ( the three persons in that ONE Godhead,....still make up only ONE GOD . (Remember we went thru this before, Cowby?)
Again.... ...Jesus is God the SON(NOT God the Father) who became Incarnate. Also, because there is only One God, Jesus is as much God as the Father. And since there is ONLY... ONE.... GOD, it is ok to simply say, God became Incarnate. But in order to prevent further confusuion: the Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father..... and the Holy Spirit is not the Father and the Father is not the Holy Spirit.... and Jesus is not the Holy Spirit andf the Holy Spirit is not Jesus.... YET....all three(Father, Son, Holy Spirit make up ONE GOD. Also.... Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... WHY? Again....because we serve ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.
Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... Interesting you mention this. I've been recently studying this particular thing due to a finding of something I hadn't seen before. In genesis talking about the creation, before 2:4 it only says God created this, and God created that. Then starting at Genesis 2:4 it starts saying LORD God created this and LORD God created that. So obviously it's talking about two different entities or their would have been no need to make different titles for them. And if they are speaking of two different entities they are not one as in one being. They are one with their will, one with their actions, one with their desires, one with their love for us. But yet they are separate entities, separate beings. Isaiah 41:13 13For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee. Definition of god is supreme being. So with that we can gather Jesus is our supreme being. There is ONE SUPREME BEING. ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. God the Father is also referrred to as Lord. Why? Because There is only ONE GOD. The 3 distinct persons of the Godhead(Father, Son, Holy Sprit)make up that ONE SUPREME being....ONE ALMIGHTY GOD. Sometimes Lord refers to the Father...sometimes lord refers to the Son in scriptures..but the whole point is....we are stil talking about One GOD. There is ONE GOD. (Father ,Son ,Holy Spirit ...3 distinct persons making up ONE GOD. In other words, Jesus is not a just a little god...no....Jesus is as much God as the Father... Jesus is the WORD....who was with God from the very beginning. (repeationg this again so it will hopefully become very clrsr)
Still doesn't make sense. If they were one entity, one exact being, it would be lying to say Jesus prayed to his father and or spoke to his father. Jesus is OUR God, OUR father. And Jesus has a father. We are not brothers and sisters with Jesus Christ. Jesus is our father. So with that being said our father is not Jesus' father, cause Jesus is our father. |
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Yes they are all God. The definition of God is superior being, all three are superior to the human race, they are all God. But that does not mean they are all one being. And if this is what you were saying I'm sorry, it slipped right over my head. The "trinity" is not true. They are not all three one being, they are all one "Godhead" if you wish to call it that, yes. They are all three superior and in control of the world with the same will. But nevertheless one more time, all three are separate entities that have the same will.
Ok Cowboy........one last itme.... you wrote: "they are not all threee one being". Cowboy, they ARE all THREE ... IN.. ONE... BEING... or in other words, all three persons of the Godhead make up ONE GOD!!! . 3 persons in ONE GODHEAD. WE SERVE ONE GOD made up of the Father Son, and Holy Spirit. Have to go now....oly had a few monents to stop by tonight.. Will pray this become clear. Have a good nite now., Cowboy.
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Cowboy.....JESUS IS GOD INCARNATE. HOWEVER..... Jesus Is God the SON Incarnate...NOT God the FATHER Incarnate. Remember now...... There is ONLY ONE GOD ( the three persons in that ONE Godhead,....still make up only ONE GOD . (Remember we went thru this before, Cowby?)
Again.... ...Jesus is God the SON(NOT God the Father) who became Incarnate. Also, because there is only One God, Jesus is as much God as the Father. And since there is ONLY... ONE.... GOD, it is ok to simply say, God became Incarnate. But in order to prevent further confusuion: the Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father..... and the Holy Spirit is not the Father and the Father is not the Holy Spirit.... and Jesus is not the Holy Spirit andf the Holy Spirit is not Jesus.... YET....all three(Father, Son, Holy Spirit make up ONE GOD. Also.... Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... WHY? Again....because we serve ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.
Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... Interesting you mention this. I've been recently studying this particular thing due to a finding of something I hadn't seen before. In genesis talking about the creation, before 2:4 it only says God created this, and God created that. Then starting at Genesis 2:4 it starts saying LORD God created this and LORD God created that. So obviously it's talking about two different entities or their would have been no need to make different titles for them. And if they are speaking of two different entities they are not one as in one being. They are one with their will, one with their actions, one with their desires, one with their love for us. But yet they are separate entities, separate beings. Cowboy,That is God the Father talking to God the Word(later become flesh).
Notice also the word, "WE" in Genesis..... as in," We will make man in OUR Image..." The "we" is the three in one Godhead....yet ONE GOD. Cowboy ...each person of the Godhead is distinct in its place in the Godhead....YET EQUAL.... and each person remains that person....YET....all three make up ONE GOD. God the Father is Father, God the Son is Son God the Holy Spirit is Holy Sprit...each with a distinct function. YET it pleased the Father to give ALL GLORY to the SON.....but again, The Father isa still to be reverenced as Father. Even so , we still serve ONLY ONE GOD.
Cowboy,That is God the Father talking to God the Word(later become flesh).flowerforyou flowerforyou Notice also the word, "WE" in Genesis..... as in," We will make man in OUR Image..." The "we" is the three in one Godhead....yet ONE GOD. Yes they are all God. The definition of God is superior being, all three are superior to the human race, they are all God. But that does not mean they are all one being. And if this is what you were saying I'm sorry, it slipped right over my head. The "trinity" is not true. They are not all three one being, they are all one "Godhead" if you wish to call it that, yes. They are all three superior and in control of the world with the same will. But nevertheless one more time, all three are separate entities that have the same will. Ok Cowboy........one last itme.... you wrote: "they are not all threee one being". Cowboy, they ARE all THREE ... IN.. ONE... BEING... or in other words, all three persons of the Godhead make up ONE GOD!!! . 3 persons in ONE GODHEAD. WE SERVE ONE GOD made up of the Father Son, and Holy Spirit. Have to go now....oly had a few monents to stop by tonight.. Will pray this become clear. Have a good nite now., Cowboy.
Yes they are one GODHEAD. But they are not one GOD. God is singular, it's not a group, organisation, or anything of that such. It does not have meaning for multiple persons. They work as one. Again, we worship God the father through the son Jesus Christ the son. They have the same will, they work as one, they have the same love for all of us, they are as one, they are one. But they are all three separate entities, separate beings. We do serve one God for sure. We serve God the father through Jesus Christ. The holy spirit is the median. God speaks to us through the Holy spirit. We speak to God the father through Jesus Christ and God the father speaks to us through The Holy Ghost. Good night MorningSong. |
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Cowboy.....JESUS IS GOD INCARNATE. HOWEVER..... Jesus Is God the SON Incarnate...NOT God the FATHER Incarnate. Remember now...... There is ONLY ONE GOD ( the three persons in that ONE Godhead,....still make up only ONE GOD . (Remember we went thru this before, Cowby?)
Again.... ...Jesus is God the SON(NOT God the Father) who became Incarnate. Also, because there is only One God, Jesus is as much God as the Father. And since there is ONLY... ONE.... GOD, it is ok to simply say, God became Incarnate. But in order to prevent further confusuion: the Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father..... and the Holy Spirit is not the Father and the Father is not the Holy Spirit.... and Jesus is not the Holy Spirit andf the Holy Spirit is not Jesus.... YET....all three(Father, Son, Holy Spirit make up ONE GOD. Also.... Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... WHY? Again....because we serve ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.
Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... Interesting you mention this. I've been recently studying this particular thing due to a finding of something I hadn't seen before. In genesis talking about the creation, before 2:4 it only says God created this, and God created that. Then starting at Genesis 2:4 it starts saying LORD God created this and LORD God created that. So obviously it's talking about two different entities or their would have been no need to make different titles for them. And if they are speaking of two different entities they are not one as in one being. They are one with their will, one with their actions, one with their desires, one with their love for us. But yet they are separate entities, separate beings. Isaiah 41:13 13For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee. Definition of god is supreme being. So with that we can gather Jesus is our supreme being. There is ONE SUPREME BEING. ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. God the Father is also referrred to as Lord. Why? Because There is only ONE GOD. The 3 distinct persons of the Godhead(Father, Son, Holy Sprit)make up that ONE SUPREME being....ONE ALMIGHTY GOD. Sometimes Lord refers to the Father...sometimes lord refers to the Son in scriptures..but the whole point is....we are stil talking about One GOD. There is ONE GOD. (Father ,Son ,Holy Spirit ...3 distinct persons making up ONE GOD. In other words, Jesus is not a just a little god...no....Jesus is as much God as the Father... Jesus is the WORD....who was with God from the very beginning. (repeationg this again so it will hopefully become very clrsr)
Still doesn't make sense. If they were one entity, one exact being, it would be lying to say Jesus prayed to his father and or spoke to his father. Jesus left all his glory behind and was obedient to his father in heaven...yet he was still fully God as well as fully man..but while on this earth, he left ALL his glory behind...and humbled himelf and became obedient to his Father in heaven.... btw...do you know what would have happened if Jesus did come with all his glory? People on earth at the time would not have been able to withstand all that glory..they would have burned up from it!! Cowboy...ask God to make this clear to you..I wil be praying all will becone clear....for yuo and for all here..,.I can't do anymore right now..but God can..and will. Be very Blessed now..You and Everyone here. Love You All.
So does God
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Cowboy.....JESUS IS GOD INCARNATE. HOWEVER..... Jesus Is God the SON Incarnate...NOT God the FATHER Incarnate. Remember now...... There is ONLY ONE GOD ( the three persons in that ONE Godhead,....still make up only ONE GOD . (Remember we went thru this before, Cowby?)
Again.... ...Jesus is God the SON(NOT God the Father) who became Incarnate. Also, because there is only One God, Jesus is as much God as the Father. And since there is ONLY... ONE.... GOD, it is ok to simply say, God became Incarnate. But in order to prevent further confusuion: the Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father..... and the Holy Spirit is not the Father and the Father is not the Holy Spirit.... and Jesus is not the Holy Spirit andf the Holy Spirit is not Jesus.... YET....all three(Father, Son, Holy Spirit make up ONE GOD. Also.... Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... WHY? Again....because we serve ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.
Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... Interesting you mention this. I've been recently studying this particular thing due to a finding of something I hadn't seen before. In genesis talking about the creation, before 2:4 it only says God created this, and God created that. Then starting at Genesis 2:4 it starts saying LORD God created this and LORD God created that. So obviously it's talking about two different entities or their would have been no need to make different titles for them. And if they are speaking of two different entities they are not one as in one being. They are one with their will, one with their actions, one with their desires, one with their love for us. But yet they are separate entities, separate beings. Isaiah 41:13 13For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee. Definition of god is supreme being. So with that we can gather Jesus is our supreme being. There is ONE SUPREME BEING. ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. God the Father is also referrred to as Lord. Why? Because There is only ONE GOD. The 3 distinct persons of the Godhead(Father, Son, Holy Sprit)make up that ONE SUPREME being....ONE ALMIGHTY GOD. Sometimes Lord refers to the Father...sometimes lord refers to the Son in scriptures..but the whole point is....we are stil talking about One GOD. There is ONE GOD. (Father ,Son ,Holy Spirit ...3 distinct persons making up ONE GOD. In other words, Jesus is not a just a little god...no....Jesus is as much God as the Father... Jesus is the WORD....who was with God from the very beginning. (repeationg this again so it will hopefully become very clrsr)
Still doesn't make sense. If they were one entity, one exact being, it would be lying to say Jesus prayed to his father and or spoke to his father. Jesus left all his glory behind and was obedient to his father in heaven...yet he was still fully God as well as fully man..but while on this earth, he left ALL his glory behind...and humbled himelf and became obedient to his Father in heaven.... btw...do you know what would have happened if Jesus did come with all his glory? People on earth at the time would not have been able to withstand all that glory..they would have burned up from it!! Cowboy...ask God to make this clear to you..I wil be praying all will becone clear....for yuo and for all here..,.I can't do anymore right now..but God can..and will. Be very Blessed now..You and Everyone here. Love You All.
So does God
It is clear, lol. We're saying the same thing, just in different ways. Jesus is God, yes. God = Supreme being, ruler. Jesus is our lord, he is our king, he is our ruler. But Jesus is not God the FATHER, Jesus is god the SON. They are one in their will, their love, their actions, their desires, but yet separate entities. For again when Jesus prayed to his father it would be lying to say he prayed to his father if he was his father. Jesus humbled himself and took the form of a servant. Does not say The father humbled himself and took the form of a servant. |
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Cowboy.....JESUS IS GOD INCARNATE. HOWEVER..... Jesus Is God the SON Incarnate...NOT God the FATHER Incarnate. Remember now...... There is ONLY ONE GOD ( the three persons in that ONE Godhead,....still make up only ONE GOD . (Remember we went thru this before, Cowby?)
Again.... ...Jesus is God the SON(NOT God the Father) who became Incarnate. Also, because there is only One God, Jesus is as much God as the Father. And since there is ONLY... ONE.... GOD, it is ok to simply say, God became Incarnate. But in order to prevent further confusuion: the Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father..... and the Holy Spirit is not the Father and the Father is not the Holy Spirit.... and Jesus is not the Holy Spirit andf the Holy Spirit is not Jesus.... YET....all three(Father, Son, Holy Spirit make up ONE GOD. Also.... Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... WHY? Again....because we serve ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.
Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... Interesting you mention this. I've been recently studying this particular thing due to a finding of something I hadn't seen before. In genesis talking about the creation, before 2:4 it only says God created this, and God created that. Then starting at Genesis 2:4 it starts saying LORD God created this and LORD God created that. So obviously it's talking about two different entities or their would have been no need to make different titles for them. And if they are speaking of two different entities they are not one as in one being. They are one with their will, one with their actions, one with their desires, one with their love for us. But yet they are separate entities, separate beings. Isaiah 41:13 13For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee. Definition of god is supreme being. So with that we can gather Jesus is our supreme being. There is ONE SUPREME BEING. ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. God the Father is also referrred to as Lord. Why? Because There is only ONE GOD. The 3 distinct persons of the Godhead(Father, Son, Holy Sprit)make up that ONE SUPREME being....ONE ALMIGHTY GOD. Sometimes Lord refers to the Father...sometimes lord refers to the Son in scriptures..but the whole point is....we are stil talking about One GOD. There is ONE GOD. (Father ,Son ,Holy Spirit ...3 distinct persons making up ONE GOD. In other words, Jesus is not a just a little god...no....Jesus is as much God as the Father... Jesus is the WORD....who was with God from the very beginning. (repeationg this again so it will hopefully become very clrsr)
Still doesn't make sense. If they were one entity, one exact being, it would be lying to say Jesus prayed to his father and or spoke to his father. Jesus left all his glory behind and was obedient to his father in heaven...yet he was still fully God as well as fully man..but while on this earth, he left ALL his glory behind...and humbled himelf and became obedient to his Father in heaven.... btw...do you know what would have happened if Jesus did come with all his glory? People on earth at the time would not have been able to withstand all that glory..they would have burned up from it!! Cowboy...ask God to make this clear to you..I wil be praying all will becone clear....for yuo and for all here..,.I can't do anymore right now..but God can..and will. Be very Blessed now..You and Everyone here. Love You All.
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It is clear, lol. We're saying the same thing, just in different ways. Jesus is God, yes. God = Supreme being, ruler. Jesus is our lord, he is our king, he is our ruler. But Jesus is not God the FATHER, Jesus is god the SON. They are one in their will, their love, their actions, their desires, but yet separate entities. For again when Jesus prayed to his father it would be lying to say he prayed to his father if he was his father. Jesus humbled himself and took the form of a servant. Does not say The father humbled himself and took the form of a servant. Yes Jesus is OUR father. But when Jesus spoke to God The Father, he was speaking to him. Jesus is not God the father in that reference of verses. As for instance when Jesus was on the cross and a loud voice said "This is my son in whom I'm well pleased". That voice was God the father, Jesus' father. And Jesus is OUR father. |
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Yes they are one GODHEAD. But they are not one GOD. God is singular, it's not a group, organisation, or anything of that such. It does not have meaning for multiple persons. They work as one. Again, we worship God the father through the son Jesus Christ the son. They have the same will, they work as one, they have the same love for all of us, they are as one, they are one. But they are all three separate entities, separate beings. We do serve one God for sure. We serve God the father through Jesus Christ. The holy spirit is the median. God speaks to us through the Holy spirit. We speak to God the father through Jesus Christ and God the father speaks to us through The Holy Ghost. Good night MorningSong. Cowboy wrote...... "Yes they are one GODHEAD. But they are not one GOD." Cowboy .... the 3 PERSONS in One Godhead IS...ONE...GOD!!!!! The thre persons of the Godhead MAKE...UP....ONLY... ONE.... GOD. ONLY ONE GOD WE SERVE. ONE GOD ALMIGHTY!!!! I can't do anymore to help make this clear . Ask God to make this very clear to you NOW ...and God will. Take care now, Precious
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Yes Jesus is OUR father. But when Jesus spoke to God The Father, he was speaking to him. Jesus is not God the father in that reference of verses. As for instance when Jesus was on the cross and a loud voice said "This is my son in whom I'm well pleased". That voice was God the father, Jesus' father. And Jesus is OUR father. Cowboy,Jesus is not our father. We have God the Father ,Jesus the Son,and God the Hoy Spirit ... making up the 3 distinct persons in One Godhead....... and the three in one godhead makes up ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. ONE GOD. Also...The 3 distinct persons of the Godhead remain the same...always. In other words, the father does not swith roles with the son, and become the son ,and vice versa. I sense some confusion here ,Cowboy,....agsin.....continue to spend time in God's Word..God and God alone can and will make this all clear to you now.
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POSTED BY COWBOY 3 Jesus is not God incarnated on Earth POSTED BY COWBOY 2: Jesus is OUR God, he is not the father though. POSTED BY COWBOY 1: Jesus' father is HIS father. That doesn't mean he is our father. I need to look more into it before I make an absolute statement, but it seems Jesus' father is his father and Jesus would be ours since he is the one whom created the world as mentioned in Genesis 2:4 you sound totally confused ... You're the one confused. For the sake of this discussion I'll clearify what was being said by the different "cowboys". Cowboy 3 = Jesus is not God the father incarnated on Earth Cowboy 2 = Jesus is our God, but not the father Cowboy 1 = Jesus is not God the father, he is not his father incarnated on Earth. But Jesus is possibly OUR father, for it was Jesus whom created us as show in the verse Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, And as I read more and study more, it seems Jesus is the one whom created the world, thus Jesus is our god. 1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: as a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind 2 : a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship; specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality 3 : a person or thing of supreme value 4 : a powerful ruler Cowboy you're only making yourself sound more confused.... you keep running to the dictionary instead of the bible to explain what a God is ...with the definitions that the dictionary offer you may as well be worshipping Omar Kadafi Omar Kadafi is consider by his people a person or thing of supreme value and a powerful ruler ...well he was until the rebels took over but anyway this is an example of how you are trying to use the dictionary to justify your Pantheist belief that a Man is God and in your zeal to do this you seek out ways to get rid of The Father "Yahweh" and replace him with a Man named Jesus ...you even have Jesus creating the universe and claiming that he is the Father you are in fact full filling the Prophecy of Revelations there will be those believers that will claim that a man is God.....and this will open up the door for The AntiChrist to come to power ....this is why it is said that Christianity is actually in league with Satan and why God will use The Rapture to rid the Earth of Christians....well only the ones that don't worship Yahweh the Father as the only God .... you are allowed to have all the different beliefs you want but as a religious person you are not allowed to deny God or try to replace him or share his power with other Godheads then you will face his wrath because he is Jealous as Hell....er..no pun intended so Cowboy....as a Christian this is why you should use the Bible to explain how Jesus a Man is God ...if you can not do this....then running to the dictionary or science books should perhaps be an indication that you're beliefs are more in line with worshipping Satan |
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Also, because there is only One God, Jesus is as much God as the Father. Jesus didn't know the time of Judgement Day....therefore Jesus can not be omniscient or all-knowing and therefore Jesus is incapable of being as much as God as The Father this is why to claim that Jesus is the same as The Father is to deny The Father that Jesus didn't know the time of Judgement Day is one of the failsafes that was place into The New Testament to ensure that no one could ever claim that Jesus or any Man was God ...but yet you guys insist on doing it how someone can claim that having a lack of knowledge makes you omniscience transcends the absurd FOR EXAMPLE: hey Jesus are you God? ..er.....perhaps...why? are you all knowing like omniscience? ...er..perhaps....why? the fact that you have to ask why...proves that you're not |
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Also.... Before God the Son became Incarnate as Jesus, He was known in the beginning as the (WORD) . It was God the WORD Who Actually Created Everything......yet....again....since there is only ONE GOD, it is often just said that God created the worlds..... WHY? Again....because we serve ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.
In The Beginning everyone and everything was The Word ...nothing at that point in time had become seperated from God ..therefore everything was God ...... when God creates that part becomes seperated from the whole ...that created part is not God but only a part of God....which is why Jesus was not God but a part of God that was sent to show the way back to God... if Jesus is God and the same as The Father then there would be no need for him to show you the way to God....this is why you are supposed to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior....not your God |
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in the Abrahamic Religions a prophecy would be knowledge of the future handed down by God of an event which can not be altered by anyone other than God to not take place... since the prophecy has been deemed by God to take place, then it therefore must and shall take place and therefore automatically takes away "Free Will" due to the intervention of God shifting and manipulating events in order for the prophecy to take place.. Funch, this is a very, very good point. It can only be countered with the prophet's prophesies being conditional. For instance, "if you are very old, then you had or have obeyed your parents." Or "if you are meek, eventually you'll inherit the earth." or "if you are a peace-, cheeze-, or tent-maker, you'll go to heaven. If you are the Maker, you're in heaven already." But some other prophecies can't be explained, strictly speaking, such as the virgin birth. If some of her ancestors did not screw his wife when his zygote that produced the line of people who eventually ended in Mary was active, WHICH DECISION WAS in the power of the screwer to make, by his own free will whether to screw that day or not, then the prophesy necessatitated that there be no free will in the power of when to make a wife happy by the direct ancestors of Mary. everyone was supposedly descended from Adam and Eve which is why it wouldn't be a prophecy that Mary would be one of the Descendents...it would be simple logic .... the fact that Mary would have a child is nothing magical it was sexual...Mary egg was fertized...this can not take place without some form of sex...the bible even tells how they had sex ...Mary was filled with the holy spirit ... you know how guys like to name their body parts...God named his "The Holy Spirit"..and remember God did make Man in his own image that Mary had sex with an entity that slipped it in another way other than a Man would, does not mean she is still a Virgin ...it only means she didn't have sex in an Earthly way which is why she had no "Free Will" |
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Jesus is OUR father. He is the one that created man. Starting at Genesis it will say LORD God created man, LORD God created woman. Jesus is our lord, God, thus Jesus would be our father. That does not mean Jesus is his father and or the being he was calling out to in times like when he said “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do”. He was speaking to HIS father. Which in secular terms would make that being our Grandpa. Jesus is our father. Cowboy...so it's Grandpa Yahweh and Father Jesus ......but in your posts below you claim that Jesus is not God incarnate and that Jesus is not The Father POSTED BY COWBOY 3 Jesus is not God incarnated on Earth POSTED BY COWBOY 2: Jesus is OUR God, he is not the father though. now do you understand why debating you is like debating three different people....Cowboy The Father, Cowboy The Son and The Cowboy drinking the holy spirits but anyway ..if Yahweh is Grandpa ....then who is Great Grandpa? see how you open up the door for Jesus to have a great grandpa and a greater grandpa ...you're preaching evolution |
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Yes Jesus is OUR father. But when Jesus spoke to God The Father, he was speaking to him. Jesus is not God the father in that reference of verses. As for instance when Jesus was on the cross and a loud voice said "This is my son in whom I'm well pleased". That voice was God the father, Jesus' father. And Jesus is OUR father. Cowboy,Jesus is not our father. We have God the Father ,Jesus the Son,and God the Hoy Spirit ... making up the 3 distinct persons in One Godhead....... and the three in one godhead makes up ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. ONE GOD. Also...The 3 distinct persons of the Godhead remain the same...always. In other words, the father does not swith roles with the son, and become the son ,and vice versa. I sense some confusion here ,Cowboy,....agsin.....continue to spend time in God's Word..God and God alone can and will make this all clear to you now.
Jesus is our father, he is the everlasting father. Isaiah 9:6 6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. ------------- And the following verse once again shows that LORD God made the Earth and the Heavens. Genesis 2:4 4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, |
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Jesus is OUR father. He is the one that created man. Starting at Genesis it will say LORD God created man, LORD God created woman. Jesus is our lord, God, thus Jesus would be our father. That does not mean Jesus is his father and or the being he was calling out to in times like when he said “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do”. He was speaking to HIS father. Which in secular terms would make that being our Grandpa. Jesus is our father. Cowboy...so it's Grandpa Yahweh and Father Jesus ......but in your posts below you claim that Jesus is not God incarnate and that Jesus is not The Father POSTED BY COWBOY 3 Jesus is not God incarnated on Earth POSTED BY COWBOY 2: Jesus is OUR God, he is not the father though. now do you understand why debating you is like debating three different people....Cowboy The Father, Cowboy The Son and The Cowboy drinking the holy spirits but anyway ..if Yahweh is Grandpa ....then who is Great Grandpa? see how you open up the door for Jesus to have a great grandpa and a greater grandpa ...you're preaching evolution Now you're just taking things out of context, for what reason I do not know. Cowboy 2, Jesus is OUR God, he is not the father though, as in he is not his father incarnated on Earth, he is not "God" incarnated on Earth. He is God's only begotten child. |
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