No, you're just taking things out of context. Yehweh is JESUS' father. That is why he says "father forgive them, for they know not what they do". And when Jesus speaks of his father, he says HIS father this HIS father that. Jesus is OUR ever lasting father.

Cowboy you clearly stated in the post that Yahweh was your Father ...

it was a Darth Vader moment ...

Luke... "I Am" your Father

come on I worked hard to catch you in a lie...it's no way out of this one ...they are of your own words

You didn't catch me in a lie. You caught me in an ignorant moment. You're bringing up a comment from a previous discussion some time ago. That was before I learned Jesus is our everlasting father.

I now know Jesus is our everlasting father. So please spare us with the "In your face" kind of talk and sit down for a civil discussion.

Cowboy...the miracle would be the moment that I don't catch you in an ignorant moment ...your constant contradictions is what keep all your moments ignorant



so in other words don't take what you are discussing at this point in time seriously enough to use it in other discussions



no..that would constitute as another one of your ignorant moments



but amazingly you can't provide a passage where "Jesus himself" states that he is



well I did catch you as you stated in an "ignorant moment" ....so now all I have to do is wait a couple of minutes for you to contradict yourself and say that that I didn't catch you

This is a discussion not a debate. I'm not here specifically to tell other's the truth, or to even insinuate I absolutely know everything. A discussion is for telling/teaching and listening/learning. So yeah, I may say one thing, then learn differently and later say another. Do you not do the same? Or do you keep to the things you once thought was the truth even though you find it's not? That is a bit ignorant.



No, ignorant means without knowledge of that which is at hand. I now have knowledge of this, so therefore is not ignorant. But thanks at trying to antagonise an argument as you usually do.



Again, why does one have to be told twice? We were told once before, so why would Jesus have to repeat knowledge already given?



Hope it all works out for you :D I wish you the best of luck. Stay on it Funches :D you may one day show something that actually makes total sense to more then just you.

Actually Cowboy Jesus has many titles....

Everlasting Father is

just one of MANY.....


But There is ONE Everlasting Father..not two....just like there is

only ONE GOD we serve...not two.


Jesus and the Father are 2 persons within the ONE Godhead (the

Holy Spirit being the 3rd person)....but

all 3 persons make up ONLY ONE God.


When we call upon God Our Heavenly Father, we are talking to

only

ONE GOD.

IF we just say JESUS, we are still talking to only ONE GOD.



There is ONLY ONE GOD we serve( 3 persons in ONE GOD).



I see that you STILL think of Jesus as a lesser "god" (

just "lord" instead of LORD } ....and therefore, you still

don't believe Jesus is equally God with the Father.


(It was not a demi-god who died on that cross...it was GOD

HIMSELF ,thru His Only begotten Son JESUS, who was on that cross ).


Cowboy,IF that was Not GOD on that cross, we would still be

dead in our sins.

NO demi-god or lesser "god"....nor no mere mortal man could have

paid the

price in full for our sins...only GOD could .


It took God Almighty to do that.(this is WHY Jesus is just AS much

God AS the Father).


I Will Pray God , thru the Power of His Holy Spirit,

make this very CLEAR to you,

Cowboy.... and that GOD WILL REVEAL ALL OF HIS TRUTH TO YOU.

I will leave it at that now.


.........


Funches,that was God the Father talking to God the Son in that

scripture I shared earler.


It is always Best to Go Read and Study the Bible for yourself,

Funches...that is

how you will FIND the TRUTH for Yourself.


Look to God, not man.


Be Blessed Everyone ,now.

There is not only one god? know ye not that ye are gods? There is one FATHER, one god IN CHARGE, one CREATOR. All three can NOT be ONE God. If that were true, Jesus would not being calling out father why has thou forsaken me? And he wouldn't speak of his father in a third person form of way. We worship God the father, THROUGH Jesus. That does not mean they are one being in that exact sense, just Jesus is the way to God the father.

Again, I'm quite fasinated with how you and the baptists have come to this conclusion. So I would dearly love to this explained exactly on how Jesus, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit make up one godhead. And what exactly is ment by one godhead. I would very much appreciate this in an email on mingle as to not have this as disputing amongst one another, cause I'm not disputing, nor am I arguing. I just don't grasp the concept of 3 different immediate beings, that are observed in one incident as separate beings, but yet are one Godhead... I don't get the concept of Godhead. "God" is not and can not be used as a plural noun, it is always singular less followed by an "s".

Cowboy, you have a body, soul ,and spirit.

Are you 3 Cowboys....are just One Cowboy....




In Genesis, God in hebrew ,is called ELOHIM.

Look up the meaning of ELOHIM.



Also in Genesis, God said,"Let US make man in OUR Image".

The WE is the 3 -persons - in- ONE- God.

Not 3 Gods...but ONE God.


Just like the 3 parts of Cowboy's being, make up only ONE Cowboy.

http://www.gotquestions.org/names-of-God.html

Not exactly

My soul does not do anything by itself
My spirit does not do anything by itself

My soul is my life, it's what gives us our life. It is us. Your body is merely a vessel for your spirit. That is when say like you die of old age, you don't truly die, you merely pass away. Cause the vessel merely died, not you eg., your soul.

My spirit is given to me by God when I accept Jesus Christ as my lord and saviour. It molds into being one with my soul.

Jesus acted on his own. His will was his father's will. Thus showing he had a mind of his own, had his own actions, ect. My soul is me, God's spirit is in me cause I have asked it to come into the temple when I accepted Jesus as lord and saviour.

Jesus did as he wanted to, he did his will. He chose for his will to be his father's will, he chose to do his father's will. Again, showing he had the opportunity if he had wished to do otherwise, but he chose not to, he chose to do the will of the father.

Definitions of God -
3
: a person or thing of supreme value
4
: a powerful ruler

Jesus is our ruler, he has supreme value. Jesus is OUR God.

I was simply showing that there are not 3 Cowboys,

but ONE COWBOY.


WHEN you one day ask Jesus in as NOT just some mere "lord and

saviour'....but INSTEAD ,as LORD and Saviour, is when JESUS

WILL COME IN.... and MAKE ALL THINGS CLEAR.


Born again Christians ALL AGREE and KNOW the Voice of the

SHEPHERD...and a STRANGER'S voice we do not follow.

Deuteronomy 18:15-19

15The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

The LORD is our God. There is only one LORD, that is Jesus Christ. Or in how we speak in the world today, Jesus is our ruler.

Yes those 3 make up Cowboy. But without any one of them I would not have life. But nevertheless they are not three separate beings as Jesus and the father is. I know they are separate beings for when Jesus spoke to God the father in 3rd person he would be lying if they weren't separate beings. Jesus has his father, Jesus is our ever lasting father. Jesus is whom created us. Again, in Genesis it says LORD God made this, LORD God made that.

And as the verse in Deuteronomy 18:15 points out, Jesus is OUR God. The LORD thy God. God the father is the father, he is not a "lord".

Better explanation of the three.

Body = Temple of God.
Soul = Is us, it is our life force
Spirit = The spirit of God that lives in the temple, your body. The spirit is a gift after accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour. It possesses eternal life. Without it there is no eternal life.

WHEN a person asked Jesus into his heart, he has to

MEAN IT.



IF a person is asking Jesus into his heart as just some mere

demi-god, Jesus CAN'T and WON'T come in.

WHY?

JESUS IS GOD(Equal to and just as Much God AS the

Father)........and GOD WILL NOT INTRUDE WHERE HE IS NOT

WELCOME.


He would otherwise be an INTRUDER.




God SEES and KNOWS the heart.

Yes very true.

Jesus will not enter if the asking is just a show. Amen to your post MorningSong!!

Jesus is also called Emmanuel...meaning GOD WITH US.

Not a little "god" or "lord" .... but GOD.



Cowboy, Do You Now See and Beleive Jesus is God(equally and AS

much God AS the Father)?[

If not, ASK GOD to Make it All Clear...and God Will.

Go to His Word....Take a break...spend time with GOD Now.

Yes, because Jesus is OUR God.

Do You believe that Jesus is LORD OF ALL..

LORD ABOVE ALL LORDS...LORD OF ALL....not just OUR Lord?

Do You also believe Jesus is Equally God WITH the Father?


God has revealed this Truth to EVERY born again Believer....


This is why ALL born again christians agree on this truth....cause

God has REVEALED this truth to us.


IF this is not yet Believed, ASK GOD to REVEAL His truth to you,

Cowboy.

Be Blessed Now.