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And them being fruitful had nothing to do with me being born, Cowboy...if your mother couldn't bear fruit or didn't have the desire to bear fruit... you wouldn't been born I'm sorry to tell you this and know that it might be a shock to you....but your parents had sex |
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And them being fruitful had nothing to do with me being born, Cowboy...if your mother couldn't bear fruit or didn't have the desire to bear fruit... you wouldn't been born I'm sorry to tell you this and know that it might be a shock to you....but your parents had sex That form of being fruitful is not a choice. So it would be pointless if God was telling us to be fruitful as an "order" and or instruction when it's not in our ability. That is why when God said be fruitful he was not referring to this for people do not have a choice in this matter. They only have a choice in being fruitful in what they do. |
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Animals don't waste their time/life either. They spend their days finding shelter, food, water, ect and take care of their own. They are fruitful, they don't act vainly, they act with purpose. if not for sex neither Man nor animals could do the things you listed above .... only way one can waste a life is perhaps through suicide ..... |
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I don't waste my life. I learned not to, almost lost it in a car wrech and have dedicated my life to spreading the word of God to the world. Cowboy.....so after all this time of denial... you finally admit that you're not only here in the forum to debate or discuss....but to preach No I'm just discussing. Preaching is done to those whom wish to listen, a discussion is to those whom disagree and or have different views. This is true, because if it is preaching when someone is here to spread their side of the belief, it is also preaching when someone else is here to spread their side of the belief eg., none belief. Preaching goes both way, not just from the one that believes in the spiritual discussion at hand. Cowboy...you admitted that you are here to preach the gospel...perhaps mostly a false gospel ...but anyway there is no need to try to say that you're not,when you have already admitted that you are |
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Animals don't waste their time/life either. They spend their days finding shelter, food, water, ect and take care of their own. They are fruitful, they don't act vainly, they act with purpose. if not for sex neither Man nor animals could do the things you listed above .... only way one can waste a life is perhaps through suicide ..... Not necessarily. Our lives are to enjoy life yes, but the main thing in life is to love one another. Do loving things with people, take care of those whom have hit a hard spot, ect. One can waste their life by staying abstinent all their life and remaining a hermit more or less. You can't take just one passage out of the bible and revolve around it. The bible speaks of marriage and sexual actions being for marriage. Marriage keeps the bed from being undefiled. |
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I don't waste my life. I learned not to, almost lost it in a car wrech and have dedicated my life to spreading the word of God to the world. Cowboy.....so after all this time of denial... you finally admit that you're not only here in the forum to debate or discuss....but to preach No I'm just discussing. Preaching is done to those whom wish to listen, a discussion is to those whom disagree and or have different views. This is true, because if it is preaching when someone is here to spread their side of the belief, it is also preaching when someone else is here to spread their side of the belief eg., none belief. Preaching goes both way, not just from the one that believes in the spiritual discussion at hand. Cowboy...you admitted that you are here to preach the gospel...perhaps mostly a false gospel ...but anyway there is no need to try to say that you're not,when you have already admitted that you are I'm here to spread the gospel, and that would be preaching to those whom believe. But for the one's whom do not believe, it is spreading the good news the Lord has given us. Also keep in mind, preaching goes both ways. If one wishes to see what I do as preaching, then what they do is preaching as well eg., if me spreading the word is preaching, then the one's denying the lord would be preaching as well. Definition of preach - To proclaim or put forth in a sermon Definition of sermon - A religious discourse delivered as part of a church service. This is not church nor a church service, so therefore not preaching cause I'm not putting forth a sermon for again this is not a church nor a church service. Merely discussing different spiritual views depending on the subject at hand. |
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And them being fruitful had nothing to do with me being born, Cowboy...if your mother couldn't bear fruit or didn't have the desire to bear fruit... you wouldn't been born I'm sorry to tell you this and know that it might be a shock to you....but your parents had sex That form of being fruitful is not a choice. so are you claiming that your parents had no choice but to have sex?....sounds like Lust So it would be pointless if God was telling us to be fruitful as an "order" and or instruction when it's not in our ability. that's why "Fruitful" is an instinct...or how else could the animals know how to have sex and why Man want sex That is why when God said be fruitful he was not referring to this for people do not have a choice in this matter. They only have a choice in being fruitful in what they do. that still doesn't explain why God told the animals that ...if you want to apply it to man then it also have to apply to the animals since God gave the command to both |
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Animals don't waste their time/life either. They spend their days finding shelter, food, water, ect and take care of their own. They are fruitful, they don't act vainly, they act with purpose. if not for sex neither Man nor animals could do the things you listed above .... only way one can waste a life is perhaps through suicide ..... Not necessarily. Our lives are to enjoy life yes, but the main thing in life is to love one another. Do loving things with people, take care of those whom have hit a hard spot, ect. One can waste their life by staying abstinent all their life and remaining a hermit more or less. You can't take just one passage out of the bible and revolve around it. The bible speaks of marriage and sexual actions being for marriage. Marriage keeps the bed from being undefiled. again..why you are saying does not apply to the animals ....for "Fruitful" to mean what you are suggesting would mean that the animals would have to be on the same mental level as man to carry out those commands |
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And them being fruitful had nothing to do with me being born, Cowboy...if your mother couldn't bear fruit or didn't have the desire to bear fruit... you wouldn't been born I'm sorry to tell you this and know that it might be a shock to you....but your parents had sex That form of being fruitful is not a choice. so are you claiming that your parents had no choice but to have sex?....sounds like Lust So it would be pointless if God was telling us to be fruitful as an "order" and or instruction when it's not in our ability. that's why "Fruitful" is an instinct...or how else could the animals know how to have sex and why Man want sex That is why when God said be fruitful he was not referring to this for people do not have a choice in this matter. They only have a choice in being fruitful in what they do. that still doesn't explain why God told the animals that ...if you want to apply it to man then it also have to apply to the animals since God gave the command to both People don't have the choice to be fruitful or not. That is why some people are sterile and some are not. Majority are not, but some people are born sterile or something tragic happens in their life that causes them to be sterile. And again, you can not revolve around ONE verse. Yes this verse says to be fruitful, and if even taken as you take it, verses later on talk about sex being between a married man and woman. |
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And them being fruitful had nothing to do with me being born, Cowboy...if your mother couldn't bear fruit or didn't have the desire to bear fruit... you wouldn't been born I'm sorry to tell you this and know that it might be a shock to you....but your parents had sex That form of being fruitful is not a choice. so are you claiming that your parents had no choice but to have sex?....sounds like Lust So it would be pointless if God was telling us to be fruitful as an "order" and or instruction when it's not in our ability. that's why "Fruitful" is an instinct...or how else could the animals know how to have sex and why Man want sex That is why when God said be fruitful he was not referring to this for people do not have a choice in this matter. They only have a choice in being fruitful in what they do. that still doesn't explain why God told the animals that ...if you want to apply it to man then it also have to apply to the animals since God gave the command to both People don't have the choice to be fruitful or not. That is why some people are sterile and some are not. Majority are not, but some people are born sterile or something tragic happens in their life that causes them to be sterile. And again, you can not revolve around ONE verse. Yes this verse says to be fruitful, and if even taken as you take it, verses later on talk about sex being between a married man and woman. Just a little further and we have this verse. Genesis 2:24 24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. The word cleave means - to adhere firmly and closely or loyally and unwaveringly With it being "loyally" this would mean for the man to remain with that ONE woman and that woman to remain with that ONE man. |
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I don't waste my life. I learned not to, almost lost it in a car wrech and have dedicated my life to spreading the word of God to the world. Cowboy.....so after all this time of denial... you finally admit that you're not only here in the forum to debate or discuss....but to preach No I'm just discussing. Preaching is done to those whom wish to listen, a discussion is to those whom disagree and or have different views. This is true, because if it is preaching when someone is here to spread their side of the belief, it is also preaching when someone else is here to spread their side of the belief eg., none belief. Preaching goes both way, not just from the one that believes in the spiritual discussion at hand. Cowboy...you admitted that you are here to preach the gospel...perhaps mostly a false gospel ...but anyway there is no need to try to say that you're not,when you have already admitted that you are I'm here to spread the gospel, and that would be preaching to those whom believe. But for the one's whom do not believe, it is spreading the good news the Lord has given us. Also keep in mind, preaching goes both ways. If one wishes to see what I do as preaching, then what they do is preaching as well eg., if me spreading the word is preaching, then the one's denying the lord would be preaching as well. Definition of preach - To proclaim or put forth in a sermon Definition of sermon - A religious discourse delivered as part of a church service. This is not church nor a church service, so therefore not preaching cause I'm not putting forth a sermon for again this is not a church nor a church service. Merely discussing different spiritual views depending on the subject at hand. I so like it when I can get a religious person to hide behind the dictionary instead of running to or following the bible Cowboy..... Jesus commanded you to spread his word and stated that if you do not obey him that you do not Love him ...so as long as you keep trying to deny that you are obeying Jesus, it only prove that you don't Love him |
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Jeanniebean
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An animal that is not human, has sex naturally. I doubt if they know that they are doing it to reproduce. Its all instinct.
Humans are considered to be part of the animal kingdom. They also do things on instinct. Most human males are not trying to reproduce when their interest turns to having sex. They are just doing what comes natural. They are not thinking about having children or raising a family. Two young adults who have sex and the girl gets pregnant are not planning or trying to have children. They are acting on instinct. This instinct is natural and God-given. Don't demonize sex. That is demonizing God's creation. That is demonizing something that is natural and instinctual. |
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I don't waste my life. I learned not to, almost lost it in a car wrech and have dedicated my life to spreading the word of God to the world. Cowboy.....so after all this time of denial... you finally admit that you're not only here in the forum to debate or discuss....but to preach No I'm just discussing. Preaching is done to those whom wish to listen, a discussion is to those whom disagree and or have different views. This is true, because if it is preaching when someone is here to spread their side of the belief, it is also preaching when someone else is here to spread their side of the belief eg., none belief. Preaching goes both way, not just from the one that believes in the spiritual discussion at hand. Cowboy...you admitted that you are here to preach the gospel...perhaps mostly a false gospel ...but anyway there is no need to try to say that you're not,when you have already admitted that you are I'm here to spread the gospel, and that would be preaching to those whom believe. But for the one's whom do not believe, it is spreading the good news the Lord has given us. Also keep in mind, preaching goes both ways. If one wishes to see what I do as preaching, then what they do is preaching as well eg., if me spreading the word is preaching, then the one's denying the lord would be preaching as well. Definition of preach - To proclaim or put forth in a sermon Definition of sermon - A religious discourse delivered as part of a church service. This is not church nor a church service, so therefore not preaching cause I'm not putting forth a sermon for again this is not a church nor a church service. Merely discussing different spiritual views depending on the subject at hand. I so like it when I can get a religious person to hide behind the dictionary instead of running to or following the bible Cowboy..... Jesus commanded you to spread his word and stated that if you do not obey him that you do not Love him ...so as long as you keep trying to deny that you are obeying Jesus, it only prove that you don't Love him Nice try Funches, you're very witty. Yes Jesus did command us to do this, i've never once said that I wasn't doing that. All I was showing is this does not justify as "preaching". Preaching is only done to those whom wish to hear it in a sermon at a church. Outside of that it is discussing. |
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People don't have the choice to be fruitful or not. That is why some people are sterile and some are not. Majority are not, but some people are born sterile or something tragic happens in their life that causes them to be sterile. And again, you can not revolve around ONE verse. Yes this verse says to be fruitful, and if even taken as you take it, verses later on talk about sex being between a married man and woman. sorry Cowboy ...but God gave that command to Adam and Eve.....the ills of Man being sterile came with the Fall of Man from the garden ....which mean that Adam and Eve had a choice to be "Fruitful"...if those two were sterile it would have been something that God done wrong |
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An animal that is not human, has sex naturally. I doubt if they know that they are doing it to reproduce. Its all instinct. Humans are considered to be part of the animal kingdom. They also do things on instinct. Most human males are not trying to reproduce when their interest turns to having sex. They are just doing what comes natural. They are not thinking about having children or raising a family. Two young adults who have sex and the girl gets pregnant are not planning or trying to have children. They are acting on instinct. This instinct is natural and God-given. Don't demonize sex. That is demonizing God's creation. That is demonizing something that is natural and instinctual. That desire is of the flesh. We are to live of the spirit. The flesh will die, you live by the flesh, you will die with the flesh. *disclaimer* "You" in this comment is on a general note and not specifically directed at anyone in particular. |
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People don't have the choice to be fruitful or not. That is why some people are sterile and some are not. Majority are not, but some people are born sterile or something tragic happens in their life that causes them to be sterile. And again, you can not revolve around ONE verse. Yes this verse says to be fruitful, and if even taken as you take it, verses later on talk about sex being between a married man and woman. sorry Cowboy ...but God gave that command to Adam and Eve.....the ills of Man being sterile came with the Fall of Man from the garden ....which mean that Adam and Eve had a choice to be "Fruitful"...if those two were sterile it would have been something that God done wrong Yes and there were rules to this being fruitful. Genesis 2:24 24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. Cleave - to adhere firmly and closely or loyally and unwaveringly |
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Just a little further and we have this verse. Genesis 2:24 24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. The word cleave means - to adhere firmly and closely or loyally and unwaveringly With it being "loyally" this would mean for the man to remain with that ONE woman and that woman to remain with that ONE man. isn't "cleave" something that happens doing sex |
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Just a little further and we have this verse. Genesis 2:24 24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. The word cleave means - to adhere firmly and closely or loyally and unwaveringly With it being "loyally" this would mean for the man to remain with that ONE woman and that woman to remain with that ONE man. isn't "cleave" something that happens doing sex No, someone could have "sex" with many different people. Cleave is remaining loyal to the one you cleave to. Cleave - to adhere firmly and closely or loyally and unwaveringly |
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I don't waste my life. I learned not to, almost lost it in a car wrech and have dedicated my life to spreading the word of God to the world. Cowboy.....so after all this time of denial... you finally admit that you're not only here in the forum to debate or discuss....but to preach No I'm just discussing. Preaching is done to those whom wish to listen, a discussion is to those whom disagree and or have different views. This is true, because if it is preaching when someone is here to spread their side of the belief, it is also preaching when someone else is here to spread their side of the belief eg., none belief. Preaching goes both way, not just from the one that believes in the spiritual discussion at hand. Cowboy...you admitted that you are here to preach the gospel...perhaps mostly a false gospel ...but anyway there is no need to try to say that you're not,when you have already admitted that you are I'm here to spread the gospel, and that would be preaching to those whom believe. But for the one's whom do not believe, it is spreading the good news the Lord has given us. Also keep in mind, preaching goes both ways. If one wishes to see what I do as preaching, then what they do is preaching as well eg., if me spreading the word is preaching, then the one's denying the lord would be preaching as well. Definition of preach - To proclaim or put forth in a sermon Definition of sermon - A religious discourse delivered as part of a church service. This is not church nor a church service, so therefore not preaching cause I'm not putting forth a sermon for again this is not a church nor a church service. Merely discussing different spiritual views depending on the subject at hand. I so like it when I can get a religious person to hide behind the dictionary instead of running to or following the bible Cowboy..... Jesus commanded you to spread his word and stated that if you do not obey him that you do not Love him ...so as long as you keep trying to deny that you are obeying Jesus, it only prove that you don't Love him Nice try Funches, you're very witty. Yes Jesus did command us to do this, i've never once said that I wasn't doing that. All I was showing is this does not justify as "preaching". Preaching is only done to those whom wish to hear it in a sermon at a church. Outside of that it is discussing. Cowboy...you call it spreading the gospel others refer to it as preaching....it's that simple |
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An animal that is not human, has sex naturally. I doubt if they know that they are doing it to reproduce. Its all instinct. Humans are considered to be part of the animal kingdom. They also do things on instinct. Most human males are not trying to reproduce when their interest turns to having sex. They are just doing what comes natural. They are not thinking about having children or raising a family. Two young adults who have sex and the girl gets pregnant are not planning or trying to have children. They are acting on instinct. This instinct is natural and God-given. Don't demonize sex. That is demonizing God's creation. That is demonizing something that is natural and instinctual. That desire is of the flesh. We are to live of the spirit. The flesh will die, you live by the flesh, you will die with the flesh. *disclaimer* "You" in this comment is on a general note and not specifically directed at anyone in particular. so you believe that when people have sex they don't desire the other person? ...I think they call that marriage |
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