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Topic: Sticks and Stones
CowboyGH's photo
Mon 04/18/11 02:17 PM

There seem to be quite a few people who are totally willing to ignore or deny that any kind of evolution has ever existed.

It has become quite acceptable for Christians to believe that the age of the Earth is billions of years old and that evolution has played a large role in reshaping the Earthly landscape of living creatures, including humans.

Therefore, those who argue that humans are exactly the same now as when they first appeared in a visably comparable form to humans of today, are arguing from a fundamentalist point of view. That point of view being that the Bible is complete, absolute, and infallable.

It boggles the mind that so many intelligent people would stoop so low as to argue from that perspective.

I just wanted to make that observation in the hopes that sanity may be restored to at least a few - while others are left with their fundamentalist views in tact and to themselves.


Evolution is true, us evolving from a lower life form is not. We evolve everyday. Quickest most observant evolution is tanning and body fat. Colder areas, people evolve to have generally more body fat then those in dryer/warmer environments. And much more various observations as such. Depending on the terrain in the specific area, people are taller or shorter, this one isn't so immediate as the tanning or body fat though. God made our bodies to withstand all elements of this earth.

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Mon 04/18/11 02:23 PM

Religions have no business trying to dictate people's activity in the bedroom. As long as you are not hurting anyone and there are consenting adults involved its none of the religious establishments business. rant rant No wonder so many people have sexual hangups.

geeeze...


Porn does hurt people though. It hurts YOU. It provides nothing productive besides fleshly desires, lust. Besides that it provides no productive attribute. It doesn't feed your body, it doesn't feed your soul. It doesn't help another in need, it does NOTHING productive. But it does hurt you as a person. Sin is more then a figurative word. Sin is in our blood. That is why sin carries on until one seeks forgiveness for their sins. Yes it doesn't generally always carry on generation to generation these days since Jesus gave himself for your sins. But nevertheless if forgiveness isn't sought after for a sin(s), then it carries on for it was never asked to be forgiven for.

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Mon 04/18/11 03:00 PM

Porn does hurt people though. It hurts YOU. It provides nothing productive besides fleshly desires, lust. Besides that it provides no productive attribute. It doesn't feed your body, it doesn't feed your soul. It doesn't help another in need, it does NOTHING productive. But it does hurt you as a person. Sin is more then a figurative word. Sin is in our blood. That is why sin carries on until one seeks forgiveness for their sins. Yes it doesn't generally always carry on generation to generation these days since Jesus gave himself for your sins. But nevertheless if forgiveness isn't sought after for a sin(s), then it carries on for it was never asked to be forgiven for.


wow Cowboy...how you know so much about porn? ....

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Mon 04/18/11 03:27 PM
Cowboy you are entitled to your opinions and I am entitled to mine. But please don't quote my opinions in your post with your own. I am not having a discussion with you about porn.


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Mon 04/18/11 04:09 PM
Edited by jrbogie on Mon 04/18/11 04:11 PM

Porn does hurt people though. It hurts YOU. It provides nothing productive besides fleshly desires, lust. Besides that it provides no productive attribute. It doesn't feed your body, it doesn't feed your soul. It doesn't help another in need, it does NOTHING productive. But it does hurt you as a person. Sin is more then a figurative word. Sin is in our blood. That is why sin carries on until one seeks forgiveness for their sins. Yes it doesn't generally always carry on generation to generation these days since Jesus gave himself for your sins. But nevertheless if forgiveness isn't sought after for a sin(s), then it carries on for it was never asked to be forgiven for.


porn is nothing but entertainment. hurts nobody. doesn't need to help anybody. attending church helps nobody as i see it and often times puts hurtful thoughts in the brains of folks. i'll refer you to the inquisisiton, the crusades, the salem witch trials and this damn jihad we have to endure today. all thinking taught by the church. there's no evidence whatsoever that a soul exists so there's no evidence that it can be hurt. and sin is merely another thought. doesn't actually exist either except within our brains.

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Mon 04/18/11 04:19 PM

something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn

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Mon 04/18/11 05:21 PM


something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.

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Mon 04/18/11 05:40 PM



something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 04/18/11 08:49 PM


There seem to be quite a few people who are totally willing to ignore or deny that any kind of evolution has ever existed.

It has become quite acceptable for Christians to believe that the age of the Earth is billions of years old and that evolution has played a large role in reshaping the Earthly landscape of living creatures, including humans.

Therefore, those who argue that humans are exactly the same now as when they first appeared in a visably comparable form to humans of today, are arguing from a fundamentalist point of view. That point of view being that the Bible is complete, absolute, and infallable.

It boggles the mind that so many intelligent people would stoop so low as to argue from that perspective.

I just wanted to make that observation in the hopes that sanity may be restored to at least a few - while others are left with their fundamentalist views in tact and to themselves.


Evolution is true, us evolving from a lower life form is not. We evolve everyday. Quickest most observant evolution is tanning and body fat. Colder areas, people evolve to have generally more body fat then those in dryer/warmer environments. And much more various observations as such. Depending on the terrain in the specific area, people are taller or shorter, this one isn't so immediate as the tanning or body fat though. God made our bodies to withstand all elements of this earth.

An atom is a smaller life form yet not a 'lower' one.

Yet for us to be in this universe we must have been created from this or smaller.

In the actual begining.

Please define 'lower' that I might understand why you would ignore the truth of evolution.

Are you afraid your God did not create it?

How small your faith.

Evolution is a tool of God.

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Tue 04/19/11 04:36 AM




something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"




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Tue 04/19/11 06:41 AM





something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"



but speaking of the phrase people use "God created Adam and Eve and not Adam and Eve".....here' something to ponder...since God created Adam first and then created Eve much later as a second thought ...then exactly what did he have in store for Adam ...was Adam for him? ...

wouldn't it make sense that God's first plan was to fill Adam with the holy spirit and get him pregnant...wouldn't that mean that God did create Adam and Steve? ..since God made Man in his own image...I guess that would make God Steve

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Tue 04/19/11 10:23 AM
whoa

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Tue 04/19/11 10:32 AM

whoa


what? ....MsHarmony is speechless? ....perhaps there is a God

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 04/19/11 11:15 AM





something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






The Holy spirit entering a body isn't quite the same as a demon possession. A demon possession is where a demon would take entire control of that body whom it possessed. The holy spirit entering one's body doesn't take control. It merely works with your conscience. It doesn't forcibly make you do anything as would a possession from a demon being. The Holy spirit will not enter until it is invited. Again, it doesn't force anything on anyone as does a demon possession.

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Tue 04/19/11 11:52 AM






something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






The Holy spirit entering a body isn't quite the same as a demon possession. A demon possession is where a demon would take entire control of that body whom it possessed. The holy spirit entering one's body doesn't take control. It merely works with your conscience. It doesn't forcibly make you do anything as would a possession from a demon being. The Holy spirit will not enter until it is invited. Again, it doesn't force anything on anyone as does a demon possession.


Cowboy ...if you claim that the holy spirit enters into your body and works with your conscious ...that would be the same as demon possession...once the conscious is involved it takes away "Free Will"

as Captain Kirk would say....What does the holy spirit need with your conscious?


CowboyGH's photo
Tue 04/19/11 07:11 PM







something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






The Holy spirit entering a body isn't quite the same as a demon possession. A demon possession is where a demon would take entire control of that body whom it possessed. The holy spirit entering one's body doesn't take control. It merely works with your conscience. It doesn't forcibly make you do anything as would a possession from a demon being. The Holy spirit will not enter until it is invited. Again, it doesn't force anything on anyone as does a demon possession.


Cowboy ...if you claim that the holy spirit enters into your body and works with your conscious ...that would be the same as demon possession...once the conscious is involved it takes away "Free Will"

as Captain Kirk would say....What does the holy spirit need with your conscious?




Has absolutely nothing to do with a possession, nor does it take any free will away. A possession consists of someone being totally taken control by a demon. Basically turning you into a sock or a glove. The glove *you* has absolutely no control of what the hand *the demon* does. You allowing the holy spirit into you isn't a possession, for it is still you that is doing your actions. The holy spirit works with your conscience. Teaches you and informs you what is right and or what is wrong. You're conscience has no absolute control over your actions.

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Tue 04/19/11 07:26 PM
slaphead huh

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Wed 04/20/11 03:50 AM








something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






The Holy spirit entering a body isn't quite the same as a demon possession. A demon possession is where a demon would take entire control of that body whom it possessed. The holy spirit entering one's body doesn't take control. It merely works with your conscience. It doesn't forcibly make you do anything as would a possession from a demon being. The Holy spirit will not enter until it is invited. Again, it doesn't force anything on anyone as does a demon possession.


Cowboy ...if you claim that the holy spirit enters into your body and works with your conscious ...that would be the same as demon possession...once the conscious is involved it takes away "Free Will"

as Captain Kirk would say....What does the holy spirit need with your conscious?




Has absolutely nothing to do with a possession, nor does it take any free will away. A possession consists of someone being totally taken control by a demon. Basically turning you into a sock or a glove. The glove *you* has absolutely no control of what the hand *the demon* does. You allowing the holy spirit into you isn't a possession, for it is still you that is doing your actions. The holy spirit works with your conscience. Teaches you and informs you what is right and or what is wrong. You're conscience has no absolute control over your actions.


are you saying that when in the spirit you have no control over your conscience.. is that what i am understanding

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Wed 04/20/11 04:02 AM





something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






Nope:

The Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity.

A demon is a fallen angel.

The Holy Spirit is part of the being that created angels.

It would be different.

Free will is commonly misunderstood. You have freedom to do as you choose. The biggest thing Free Will entails is choosing to believe in God, Jesus and The Spirit or not. If you choose to accept the Spirit into your life and turn your life over to Him you are not loosing Free Will. You are allowing the Spirit to guide you.

Let me know if that confuses you...

mylifetoday's photo
Wed 04/20/11 04:03 AM






something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"



but speaking of the phrase people use "God created Adam and Eve and not Adam and Eve".....here' something to ponder...since God created Adam first and then created Eve much later as a second thought ...then exactly what did he have in store for Adam ...was Adam for him? ...

wouldn't it make sense that God's first plan was to fill Adam with the holy spirit and get him pregnant...wouldn't that mean that God did create Adam and Steve? ..since God made Man in his own image...I guess that would make God Steve




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