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CowboyGH's photo
Sat 04/16/11 09:49 PM


Did you read the link?

The main reason I attached it was to show that he was the representative of the Roman Government and he washed his hands of the crucifixion.

How does that equate to:
1) Jesus being a criminal as you have so often claimed
2) show that Rome executed Him for crimes against the state
3) Pilate ordered His execution

Pilate handed Him over to be Crucified. Did not do it through Roman law.

the only law He would have broken is the Jewish law. Claiming to be the Son of God.

But that law ONLY applies to someone saying that who is not in fact the Son of God. And since He was the Son of God, was not in violation of the law. The Jews were wrong to sentence Him to death on these grounds.

He was innocent of ALL charges levied against Him.




"mylifetoday" ...isn't everyone in jail or on death row innocent?...if Pilate handed him over to be Crucified then blame Pilate not the Pharisees ....

if Jesus as you said may be guilty of breaking some jewish law....then that in itself showed "just cause" why Pilate should place him on trial or crucify him...




Jesus broke no laws. With Jesus those laws were fulfilled, completed, finished, held no more power, and we were/are given a new set of laws with a new covenant between man and God. It is just the jews did not believe Jesus to be the promised messiah. But nevertheless, the old laws held no more power because of Jesus and again we were given a new covenant/new set of laws.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 04/16/11 10:52 PM
Gen 1:1 - Matt 7:23

"Not everyone who says to Me,'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' 23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you ; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'
NKJV

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Sat 04/16/11 11:24 PM
Edited by mylifetoday on Sat 04/16/11 11:26 PM
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven [see Christian Living]. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name [to understand the two ways that God's Name is taken in vain, see The Third Commandment], and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' [see I Did It My Way...] And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030604.htm

This is why I will not respond.

Posting this for Cowboy...

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sun 04/17/11 12:21 AM

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven [see Christian Living]. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name [to understand the two ways that God's Name is taken in vain, see The Third Commandment], and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' [see I Did It My Way...] And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030604.htm

This is why I will not respond.

Posting this for Cowboy...


so you can not defend who you say is the Messiah so you attack.. I have seen this before. Yahshua shut every one up who tried to come against his words.

I am nobody but a believer that will defend Yahshua. You can not defend yourself or what you believe.

a message board and you are scared why?

because the TRUTH is not in you. Period. True? Miles

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Sun 04/17/11 12:51 AM
Edited by mylifetoday on Sun 04/17/11 01:11 AM


"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven [see Christian Living]. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name [to understand the two ways that God's Name is taken in vain, see The Third Commandment], and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' [see I Did It My Way...] And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030604.htm

This is why I will not respond.

Posting this for Cowboy...


so you can not defend who you say is the Messiah so you attack.. I have seen this before. Yahshua shut every one up who tried to come against his words.

I am nobody but a believer that will defend Yahshua. You can not defend yourself or what you believe.

a message board and you are scared why?

because the TRUTH is not in you. Period. True? Miles


You are not a believer - not even close - If you were a believer you would be agreeing with me.

If anything you are an anti-believer. Not a nonbeliever but someone that claims to be a believer only to get a Christian to drop their guard and fall into your trap. The first few posts you have in this thread I thought you were a Christian... That is why I posted that passage.

I am sure you consider yourself quite clever and you love the idea of running in circles to confuse the people you are debating with.

But like I said, there is absolutely no point in debating you when you have said a few times now that there is nothing I can say to you that will get you to change your mind. You disbelieve in Christ and yet claim to be a believer. Then you paraphrase the Bible and act as if you are more knowledgeable. Please...

Just as an example, you used the second half of the passage I posted to try to imply Cowboy was a fool and even a blasphemer.

By posting only a portion of it you took away its true meaning. You in essence said Cowboy was a false prophet.

So, good luck in destroying other Christians. I will pray for you.

God Bless.


PS - At one point you asked why the nonbelievers don't want to debate you. Why aren't you debating Funches? And why are you saying I am a nonbeliever when I say myself that I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, God His Father and the Holy Spirit.

PPS - You keep calling yourself a believer. What are YOUR beliefs?

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sun 04/17/11 01:07 AM



"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven [see Christian Living]. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name [to understand the two ways that God's Name is taken in vain, see The Third Commandment], and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' [see I Did It My Way...] And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030604.htm

This is why I will not respond.

Posting this for Cowboy...


so you can not defend who you say is the Messiah so you attack.. I have seen this before. Yahshua shut every one up who tried to come against his words.

I am nobody but a believer that will defend Yahshua. You can not defend yourself or what you believe.

a message board and you are scared why?

because the TRUTH is not in you. Period. True? Miles


You are not a believer - not even close - If you were a believer you would be agreeing with me.

If anything you are an anti-believer. Not a nonbeliever but someone that claims to be a believer only to get a Christian to drop their guard and fall into your trap. The first few posts you have in this thread I thought you were a Christian... That is why I posted that passage.

I am sure you consider yourself quite clever and you love the idea of running in circles to confuse the people you are debating with.

But like I said, there is absolutely no point in debating you when you have said a few times now that there is nothing I can say to you that will get you to change your mind. You disbelieve in Christ and yet claim to be a believer. Then you paraphrase the Bible and act as if you are more knowledgeable. Please...

Just as an example, you used the second half of the passage I posted to try to imply Cowboy was a fool and even a blasphemer.

By posting only a portion of it you took away its true meaning. You in essence said Cowboy was a false prophet.

So, good luck in destroying other Christians. I will pray for you.

God Bless.




You do not want the TRUTH of what the BIBLE says.. You want your truth and your flock.

Just like Satan does.

Cowboy is decieved.. the scriptures say become like a Babe.. REBORN.. when you are reborn you start all over with learning.. The milk of the word.

You say non sence because I do not change what I say..

read my posts from the beginning.. ask people who are on hear if I waver in the Scriptures or if chr-stians do.

I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.

You all love condemning people.. Did Yahshua get on to the ones who werwe suppose to believe or the ones that did not believe or who were the outcast.. Me and My House will Follow Yahweh..Blessings..Miles

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Sun 04/17/11 01:20 AM
Edited by mylifetoday on Sun 04/17/11 01:33 AM




"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven [see Christian Living]. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name [to understand the two ways that God's Name is taken in vain, see The Third Commandment], and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' [see I Did It My Way...] And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030604.htm

This is why I will not respond.

Posting this for Cowboy...


so you can not defend who you say is the Messiah so you attack.. I have seen this before. Yahshua shut every one up who tried to come against his words.

I am nobody but a believer that will defend Yahshua. You can not defend yourself or what you believe.

a message board and you are scared why?

because the TRUTH is not in you. Period. True? Miles


You are not a believer - not even close - If you were a believer you would be agreeing with me.

If anything you are an anti-believer. Not a nonbeliever but someone that claims to be a believer only to get a Christian to drop their guard and fall into your trap. The first few posts you have in this thread I thought you were a Christian... That is why I posted that passage.

I am sure you consider yourself quite clever and you love the idea of running in circles to confuse the people you are debating with.

But like I said, there is absolutely no point in debating you when you have said a few times now that there is nothing I can say to you that will get you to change your mind. You disbelieve in Christ and yet claim to be a believer. Then you paraphrase the Bible and act as if you are more knowledgeable. Please...

Just as an example, you used the second half of the passage I posted to try to imply Cowboy was a fool and even a blasphemer.

By posting only a portion of it you took away its true meaning. You in essence said Cowboy was a false prophet.

So, good luck in destroying other Christians. I will pray for you.

God Bless.




You do not want the TRUTH of what the BIBLE says.. You want your truth and your flock.

Just like Satan does.

Cowboy is decieved.. the scriptures say become like a Babe.. REBORN.. when you are reborn you start all over with learning.. The milk of the word.

You say non sence because I do not change what I say..

read my posts from the beginning.. ask people who are on hear if I waver in the Scriptures or if chr-stians do.

I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.

You all love condemning people.. Did Yahshua get on to the ones who werwe suppose to believe or the ones that did not believe or who were the outcast.. Me and My House will Follow Yahweh..Blessings..Miles


Just realized I am not following my own advice.

Good Bye,

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sun 04/17/11 01:36 AM





"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven [see Christian Living]. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name [to understand the two ways that God's Name is taken in vain, see The Third Commandment], and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' [see I Did It My Way...] And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030604.htm

This is why I will not respond.

Posting this for Cowboy...


so you can not defend who you say is the Messiah so you attack.. I have seen this before. Yahshua shut every one up who tried to come against his words.

I am nobody but a believer that will defend Yahshua. You can not defend yourself or what you believe.

a message board and you are scared why?

because the TRUTH is not in you. Period. True? Miles


You are not a believer - not even close - If you were a believer you would be agreeing with me.

If anything you are an anti-believer. Not a nonbeliever but someone that claims to be a believer only to get a Christian to drop their guard and fall into your trap. The first few posts you have in this thread I thought you were a Christian... That is why I posted that passage.

I am sure you consider yourself quite clever and you love the idea of running in circles to confuse the people you are debating with.

But like I said, there is absolutely no point in debating you when you have said a few times now that there is nothing I can say to you that will get you to change your mind. You disbelieve in Christ and yet claim to be a believer. Then you paraphrase the Bible and act as if you are more knowledgeable. Please...

Just as an example, you used the second half of the passage I posted to try to imply Cowboy was a fool and even a blasphemer.

By posting only a portion of it you took away its true meaning. You in essence said Cowboy was a false prophet.

So, good luck in destroying other Christians. I will pray for you.

God Bless.




You do not want the TRUTH of what the BIBLE says.. You want your truth and your flock.

Just like Satan does.

Cowboy is decieved.. the scriptures say become like a Babe.. REBORN.. when you are reborn you start all over with learning.. The milk of the word.

You say non sence because I do not change what I say..

read my posts from the beginning.. ask people who are on hear if I waver in the Scriptures or if chr-stians do.

I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.

You all love condemning people.. Did Yahshua get on to the ones who werwe suppose to believe or the ones that did not believe or who were the outcast.. Me and My House will Follow Yahweh..Blessings..Miles


Why can't you type the word "Christ?"

You have hyphenated it every time. If He isn't the Savor, as you claim, why do you refuse? It shouldn't mean anything then..


oh yes it does.. Jews type g-d. for a reason..

see when the scriptures say do not have false dieties on your lips. Yahweh is ONE.

Peter says as does Exodus where he got it from..

1 Peter 2:9

9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood,
NKJV


A priestood.Melchezidec.

and Priests duties./

Mal 2:7

7 "For the lips of a priest should keep knowledge,
And people should seek the law from his mouth;
For he is the messenger of Yahweh of hosts.
NKJV

The Scriptures of Life I do not take lightly..Blessings of Shalom..Miles

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Sun 04/17/11 06:26 AM

Jesus is the only begotten child of God. Jesus is the judge, Jesus is the law enforcer. Jesus had all the right to do what he did in the temple.


Cowboy....those things aren't true or Jesus would have told them to Pilate

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Sun 04/17/11 06:54 AM

Jesus broke no laws. With Jesus those laws were fulfilled, completed, finished, held no more power, and we were/are given a new set of laws with a new covenant between man and God. It is just the jews did not believe Jesus to be the promised messiah. But nevertheless, the old laws held no more power because of Jesus and again we were given a new covenant/new set of laws.


Cowboy ..Jesus's so called laws did not apply to Rome and apparently didn't apply to the Pharisees ...

but even so this is why Jesus was breaking the law by trying to give laws that he had no authority under Rome's jurisdiction to give ....

you are in fact proving why he was a criminal and guilty in the eyes of Rome and the very reasons why he should have been crucified...

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Sun 04/17/11 07:20 AM



"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven [see Christian Living]. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name [to understand the two ways that God's Name is taken in vain, see The Third Commandment], and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' [see I Did It My Way...] And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030604.htm

This is why I will not respond.

Posting this for Cowboy...


so you can not defend who you say is the Messiah so you attack.. I have seen this before. Yahshua shut every one up who tried to come against his words.

I am nobody but a believer that will defend Yahshua. You can not defend yourself or what you believe.

a message board and you are scared why?

because the TRUTH is not in you. Period. True? Miles


You are not a believer - not even close - If you were a believer you would be agreeing with me.

If anything you are an anti-believer. Not a nonbeliever but someone that claims to be a believer only to get a Christian to drop their guard and fall into your trap. The first few posts you have in this thread I thought you were a Christian... That is why I posted that passage.

I am sure you consider yourself quite clever and you love the idea of running in circles to confuse the people you are debating with.

But like I said, there is absolutely no point in debating you when you have said a few times now that there is nothing I can say to you that will get you to change your mind. You disbelieve in Christ and yet claim to be a believer. Then you paraphrase the Bible and act as if you are more knowledgeable. Please...

Just as an example, you used the second half of the passage I posted to try to imply Cowboy was a fool and even a blasphemer.

By posting only a portion of it you took away its true meaning. You in essence said Cowboy was a false prophet.

So, good luck in destroying other Christians. I will pray for you.

God Bless.


PS - At one point you asked why the nonbelievers don't want to debate you. Why aren't you debating Funches? And why are you saying I am a nonbeliever when I say myself that I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, God His Father and the Holy Spirit.

PPS - You keep calling yourself a believer. What are YOUR beliefs?


"mylifetoday"...that you claim that you now refuse to respond to our posts is no different than Jesus having a conniption fit in the temple.....

this is why at our very first debate I suggested that perhaps The Christian Singles Forum was the best place for you....I wasn't suggesting that Christians shouldn't be in The General Chat Forum but that the christian singles forum was a place for those sensitive Christians such as yourself that have the need to turn over pews everytime someone dare to disagree with their mis-interpetations of the bible...

you should have figured out by now that no one is going to agree with everything posted by anyone

in fact I could brings up things in the bible that you and cowboy would fight each other about...so come on and stop being a drama queen and let's all just have fun debating...

and taken from the most famous quote in all the history of Man ..."can't we all just get along"?

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Sun 04/17/11 09:09 AM




"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven [see Christian Living]. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name [to understand the two ways that God's Name is taken in vain, see The Third Commandment], and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' [see I Did It My Way...] And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030604.htm

This is why I will not respond.

Posting this for Cowboy...


so you can not defend who you say is the Messiah so you attack.. I have seen this before. Yahshua shut every one up who tried to come against his words.

I am nobody but a believer that will defend Yahshua. You can not defend yourself or what you believe.

a message board and you are scared why?

because the TRUTH is not in you. Period. True? Miles


You are not a believer - not even close - If you were a believer you would be agreeing with me.

If anything you are an anti-believer. Not a nonbeliever but someone that claims to be a believer only to get a Christian to drop their guard and fall into your trap. The first few posts you have in this thread I thought you were a Christian... That is why I posted that passage.

I am sure you consider yourself quite clever and you love the idea of running in circles to confuse the people you are debating with.

But like I said, there is absolutely no point in debating you when you have said a few times now that there is nothing I can say to you that will get you to change your mind. You disbelieve in Christ and yet claim to be a believer. Then you paraphrase the Bible and act as if you are more knowledgeable. Please...

Just as an example, you used the second half of the passage I posted to try to imply Cowboy was a fool and even a blasphemer.

By posting only a portion of it you took away its true meaning. You in essence said Cowboy was a false prophet.

So, good luck in destroying other Christians. I will pray for you.

God Bless.




You do not want the TRUTH of what the BIBLE says.. You want your truth and your flock.

Just like Satan does.

Cowboy is decieved.. the scriptures say become like a Babe.. REBORN.. when you are reborn you start all over with learning.. The milk of the word.

You say non sence because I do not change what I say..

read my posts from the beginning.. ask people who are on hear if I waver in the Scriptures or if chr-stians do.

I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.

You all love condemning people.. Did Yahshua get on to the ones who werwe suppose to believe or the ones that did not believe or who were the outcast.. Me and My House will Follow Yahweh..Blessings..Miles



I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.


I waver none. If it seems as I do, I would suggest rereading what I said, cause if it seems I am wavering that would mean you misread something my friend.

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Sun 04/17/11 09:38 AM





"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven [see Christian Living]. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name [to understand the two ways that God's Name is taken in vain, see The Third Commandment], and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' [see I Did It My Way...] And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030604.htm

This is why I will not respond.

Posting this for Cowboy...


so you can not defend who you say is the Messiah so you attack.. I have seen this before. Yahshua shut every one up who tried to come against his words.

I am nobody but a believer that will defend Yahshua. You can not defend yourself or what you believe.

a message board and you are scared why?

because the TRUTH is not in you. Period. True? Miles


You are not a believer - not even close - If you were a believer you would be agreeing with me.

If anything you are an anti-believer. Not a nonbeliever but someone that claims to be a believer only to get a Christian to drop their guard and fall into your trap. The first few posts you have in this thread I thought you were a Christian... That is why I posted that passage.

I am sure you consider yourself quite clever and you love the idea of running in circles to confuse the people you are debating with.

But like I said, there is absolutely no point in debating you when you have said a few times now that there is nothing I can say to you that will get you to change your mind. You disbelieve in Christ and yet claim to be a believer. Then you paraphrase the Bible and act as if you are more knowledgeable. Please...

Just as an example, you used the second half of the passage I posted to try to imply Cowboy was a fool and even a blasphemer.

By posting only a portion of it you took away its true meaning. You in essence said Cowboy was a false prophet.

So, good luck in destroying other Christians. I will pray for you.

God Bless.




You do not want the TRUTH of what the BIBLE says.. You want your truth and your flock.

Just like Satan does.

Cowboy is decieved.. the scriptures say become like a Babe.. REBORN.. when you are reborn you start all over with learning.. The milk of the word.

You say non sence because I do not change what I say..

read my posts from the beginning.. ask people who are on hear if I waver in the Scriptures or if chr-stians do.

I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.

You all love condemning people.. Did Yahshua get on to the ones who werwe suppose to believe or the ones that did not believe or who were the outcast.. Me and My House will Follow Yahweh..Blessings..Miles



I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.


I waver none. If it seems as I do, I would suggest rereading what I said, cause if it seems I am wavering that would mean you misread something my friend.


Cowboy.. you say this is a commandment and jc is the law and has the right to judge then say the law is done away.

thats not right.

without knowing what the law says how can you say its done away? Whats done away?

a pick and choose religion.

Tell me what I pick and choose? Blessings..Miles

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Sun 04/17/11 09:41 AM






"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven [see Christian Living]. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name [to understand the two ways that God's Name is taken in vain, see The Third Commandment], and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' [see I Did It My Way...] And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030604.htm

This is why I will not respond.

Posting this for Cowboy...


so you can not defend who you say is the Messiah so you attack.. I have seen this before. Yahshua shut every one up who tried to come against his words.

I am nobody but a believer that will defend Yahshua. You can not defend yourself or what you believe.

a message board and you are scared why?

because the TRUTH is not in you. Period. True? Miles


You are not a believer - not even close - If you were a believer you would be agreeing with me.

If anything you are an anti-believer. Not a nonbeliever but someone that claims to be a believer only to get a Christian to drop their guard and fall into your trap. The first few posts you have in this thread I thought you were a Christian... That is why I posted that passage.

I am sure you consider yourself quite clever and you love the idea of running in circles to confuse the people you are debating with.

But like I said, there is absolutely no point in debating you when you have said a few times now that there is nothing I can say to you that will get you to change your mind. You disbelieve in Christ and yet claim to be a believer. Then you paraphrase the Bible and act as if you are more knowledgeable. Please...

Just as an example, you used the second half of the passage I posted to try to imply Cowboy was a fool and even a blasphemer.

By posting only a portion of it you took away its true meaning. You in essence said Cowboy was a false prophet.

So, good luck in destroying other Christians. I will pray for you.

God Bless.




You do not want the TRUTH of what the BIBLE says.. You want your truth and your flock.

Just like Satan does.

Cowboy is decieved.. the scriptures say become like a Babe.. REBORN.. when you are reborn you start all over with learning.. The milk of the word.

You say non sence because I do not change what I say..

read my posts from the beginning.. ask people who are on hear if I waver in the Scriptures or if chr-stians do.

I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.

You all love condemning people.. Did Yahshua get on to the ones who werwe suppose to believe or the ones that did not believe or who were the outcast.. Me and My House will Follow Yahweh..Blessings..Miles



I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.


I waver none. If it seems as I do, I would suggest rereading what I said, cause if it seems I am wavering that would mean you misread something my friend.


Cowboy.. you say this is a commandment and jc is the law and has the right to judge then say the law is done away.

thats not right.

without knowing what the law says how can you say its done away? Whats done away?

a pick and choose religion.

Tell me what I pick and choose? Blessings..Miles


The laws given to us by God are only for a time being, they only are there till all prophecies are fulfilled. All the prophecies in the old laws were fulfilled, thus we were given a new covenant since that one was complete. It's not picking and choosing anything. God tells us ahead of time the laws only hold power till all prophecies are fulfilled. So the new laws we have been given will hold power till all the prophecies of the new covenant are fulfilled.

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Sun 04/17/11 10:03 AM







"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven [see Christian Living]. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name [to understand the two ways that God's Name is taken in vain, see The Third Commandment], and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' [see I Did It My Way...] And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030604.htm

This is why I will not respond.

Posting this for Cowboy...


so you can not defend who you say is the Messiah so you attack.. I have seen this before. Yahshua shut every one up who tried to come against his words.

I am nobody but a believer that will defend Yahshua. You can not defend yourself or what you believe.

a message board and you are scared why?

because the TRUTH is not in you. Period. True? Miles


You are not a believer - not even close - If you were a believer you would be agreeing with me.

If anything you are an anti-believer. Not a nonbeliever but someone that claims to be a believer only to get a Christian to drop their guard and fall into your trap. The first few posts you have in this thread I thought you were a Christian... That is why I posted that passage.

I am sure you consider yourself quite clever and you love the idea of running in circles to confuse the people you are debating with.

But like I said, there is absolutely no point in debating you when you have said a few times now that there is nothing I can say to you that will get you to change your mind. You disbelieve in Christ and yet claim to be a believer. Then you paraphrase the Bible and act as if you are more knowledgeable. Please...

Just as an example, you used the second half of the passage I posted to try to imply Cowboy was a fool and even a blasphemer.

By posting only a portion of it you took away its true meaning. You in essence said Cowboy was a false prophet.

So, good luck in destroying other Christians. I will pray for you.

God Bless.




You do not want the TRUTH of what the BIBLE says.. You want your truth and your flock.

Just like Satan does.

Cowboy is decieved.. the scriptures say become like a Babe.. REBORN.. when you are reborn you start all over with learning.. The milk of the word.

You say non sence because I do not change what I say..

read my posts from the beginning.. ask people who are on hear if I waver in the Scriptures or if chr-stians do.

I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.

You all love condemning people.. Did Yahshua get on to the ones who werwe suppose to believe or the ones that did not believe or who were the outcast.. Me and My House will Follow Yahweh..Blessings..Miles



I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.


I waver none. If it seems as I do, I would suggest rereading what I said, cause if it seems I am wavering that would mean you misread something my friend.


Cowboy.. you say this is a commandment and jc is the law and has the right to judge then say the law is done away.

thats not right.

without knowing what the law says how can you say its done away? Whats done away?

a pick and choose religion.

Tell me what I pick and choose? Blessings..Miles


The laws given to us by God are only for a time being, they only are there till all prophecies are fulfilled. All the prophecies in the old laws were fulfilled, thus we were given a new covenant since that one was complete. It's not picking and choosing anything. God tells us ahead of time the laws only hold power till all prophecies are fulfilled. So the new laws we have been given will hold power till all the prophecies of the new covenant are fulfilled.


Cowboy.. does scripture interpret scripture? I say scripture is what says what is done away and what is not. all i want to see is what scriptures give you the right to say the law is done away or what law is done away.. Is that 2 much to ask? Blessings..Miles

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Sun 04/17/11 03:40 PM








"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven [see Christian Living]. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name [to understand the two ways that God's Name is taken in vain, see The Third Commandment], and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' [see I Did It My Way...] And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030604.htm

This is why I will not respond.

Posting this for Cowboy...


so you can not defend who you say is the Messiah so you attack.. I have seen this before. Yahshua shut every one up who tried to come against his words.

I am nobody but a believer that will defend Yahshua. You can not defend yourself or what you believe.

a message board and you are scared why?

because the TRUTH is not in you. Period. True? Miles


You are not a believer - not even close - If you were a believer you would be agreeing with me.

If anything you are an anti-believer. Not a nonbeliever but someone that claims to be a believer only to get a Christian to drop their guard and fall into your trap. The first few posts you have in this thread I thought you were a Christian... That is why I posted that passage.

I am sure you consider yourself quite clever and you love the idea of running in circles to confuse the people you are debating with.

But like I said, there is absolutely no point in debating you when you have said a few times now that there is nothing I can say to you that will get you to change your mind. You disbelieve in Christ and yet claim to be a believer. Then you paraphrase the Bible and act as if you are more knowledgeable. Please...

Just as an example, you used the second half of the passage I posted to try to imply Cowboy was a fool and even a blasphemer.

By posting only a portion of it you took away its true meaning. You in essence said Cowboy was a false prophet.

So, good luck in destroying other Christians. I will pray for you.

God Bless.




You do not want the TRUTH of what the BIBLE says.. You want your truth and your flock.

Just like Satan does.

Cowboy is decieved.. the scriptures say become like a Babe.. REBORN.. when you are reborn you start all over with learning.. The milk of the word.

You say non sence because I do not change what I say..

read my posts from the beginning.. ask people who are on hear if I waver in the Scriptures or if chr-stians do.

I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.

You all love condemning people.. Did Yahshua get on to the ones who werwe suppose to believe or the ones that did not believe or who were the outcast.. Me and My House will Follow Yahweh..Blessings..Miles



I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.


I waver none. If it seems as I do, I would suggest rereading what I said, cause if it seems I am wavering that would mean you misread something my friend.


Cowboy.. you say this is a commandment and jc is the law and has the right to judge then say the law is done away.

thats not right.

without knowing what the law says how can you say its done away? Whats done away?

a pick and choose religion.

Tell me what I pick and choose? Blessings..Miles


The laws given to us by God are only for a time being, they only are there till all prophecies are fulfilled. All the prophecies in the old laws were fulfilled, thus we were given a new covenant since that one was complete. It's not picking and choosing anything. God tells us ahead of time the laws only hold power till all prophecies are fulfilled. So the new laws we have been given will hold power till all the prophecies of the new covenant are fulfilled.


Cowboy.. does scripture interpret scripture? I say scripture is what says what is done away and what is not. all i want to see is what scriptures give you the right to say the law is done away or what law is done away.. Is that 2 much to ask? Blessings..Miles


Matthew 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Definition of Fulfill - Bring to completion or reality; achieve or realize (something desired, promised, or predicted).

Notice, "BRING TO COMPLETION".

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Sun 04/17/11 03:49 PM









"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven [see Christian Living]. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name [to understand the two ways that God's Name is taken in vain, see The Third Commandment], and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' [see I Did It My Way...] And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030604.htm

This is why I will not respond.

Posting this for Cowboy...


so you can not defend who you say is the Messiah so you attack.. I have seen this before. Yahshua shut every one up who tried to come against his words.

I am nobody but a believer that will defend Yahshua. You can not defend yourself or what you believe.

a message board and you are scared why?

because the TRUTH is not in you. Period. True? Miles


You are not a believer - not even close - If you were a believer you would be agreeing with me.

If anything you are an anti-believer. Not a nonbeliever but someone that claims to be a believer only to get a Christian to drop their guard and fall into your trap. The first few posts you have in this thread I thought you were a Christian... That is why I posted that passage.

I am sure you consider yourself quite clever and you love the idea of running in circles to confuse the people you are debating with.

But like I said, there is absolutely no point in debating you when you have said a few times now that there is nothing I can say to you that will get you to change your mind. You disbelieve in Christ and yet claim to be a believer. Then you paraphrase the Bible and act as if you are more knowledgeable. Please...

Just as an example, you used the second half of the passage I posted to try to imply Cowboy was a fool and even a blasphemer.

By posting only a portion of it you took away its true meaning. You in essence said Cowboy was a false prophet.

So, good luck in destroying other Christians. I will pray for you.

God Bless.




You do not want the TRUTH of what the BIBLE says.. You want your truth and your flock.

Just like Satan does.

Cowboy is decieved.. the scriptures say become like a Babe.. REBORN.. when you are reborn you start all over with learning.. The milk of the word.

You say non sence because I do not change what I say..

read my posts from the beginning.. ask people who are on hear if I waver in the Scriptures or if chr-stians do.

I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.

You all love condemning people.. Did Yahshua get on to the ones who werwe suppose to believe or the ones that did not believe or who were the outcast.. Me and My House will Follow Yahweh..Blessings..Miles



I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.


I waver none. If it seems as I do, I would suggest rereading what I said, cause if it seems I am wavering that would mean you misread something my friend.


Cowboy.. you say this is a commandment and jc is the law and has the right to judge then say the law is done away.

thats not right.

without knowing what the law says how can you say its done away? Whats done away?

a pick and choose religion.

Tell me what I pick and choose? Blessings..Miles


The laws given to us by God are only for a time being, they only are there till all prophecies are fulfilled. All the prophecies in the old laws were fulfilled, thus we were given a new covenant since that one was complete. It's not picking and choosing anything. God tells us ahead of time the laws only hold power till all prophecies are fulfilled. So the new laws we have been given will hold power till all the prophecies of the new covenant are fulfilled.


Cowboy.. does scripture interpret scripture? I say scripture is what says what is done away and what is not. all i want to see is what scriptures give you the right to say the law is done away or what law is done away.. Is that 2 much to ask? Blessings..Miles


Matthew 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Definition of Fulfill - Bring to completion or reality; achieve or realize (something desired, promised, or predicted).

Notice, "BRING TO COMPLETION".



if I fullfill my duties at work today does that mean tommorrow i have no duties?

so looking on a woman with lust in your heart is not adultry..

i thought you say you need to read all the scriptures around them.. so when Yahweh says he is the same yesterday today and tommorrow.. that is not what he meant.

will the law be in force like the Feast of Tabernacles in Zech 14: 14? where is the fairness to all creation? Blessings..Miles

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Sun 04/17/11 04:19 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sun 04/17/11 04:20 PM










"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven [see Christian Living]. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name [to understand the two ways that God's Name is taken in vain, see The Third Commandment], and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' [see I Did It My Way...] And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030604.htm

This is why I will not respond.

Posting this for Cowboy...


so you can not defend who you say is the Messiah so you attack.. I have seen this before. Yahshua shut every one up who tried to come against his words.

I am nobody but a believer that will defend Yahshua. You can not defend yourself or what you believe.

a message board and you are scared why?

because the TRUTH is not in you. Period. True? Miles


You are not a believer - not even close - If you were a believer you would be agreeing with me.

If anything you are an anti-believer. Not a nonbeliever but someone that claims to be a believer only to get a Christian to drop their guard and fall into your trap. The first few posts you have in this thread I thought you were a Christian... That is why I posted that passage.

I am sure you consider yourself quite clever and you love the idea of running in circles to confuse the people you are debating with.

But like I said, there is absolutely no point in debating you when you have said a few times now that there is nothing I can say to you that will get you to change your mind. You disbelieve in Christ and yet claim to be a believer. Then you paraphrase the Bible and act as if you are more knowledgeable. Please...

Just as an example, you used the second half of the passage I posted to try to imply Cowboy was a fool and even a blasphemer.

By posting only a portion of it you took away its true meaning. You in essence said Cowboy was a false prophet.

So, good luck in destroying other Christians. I will pray for you.

God Bless.




You do not want the TRUTH of what the BIBLE says.. You want your truth and your flock.

Just like Satan does.

Cowboy is decieved.. the scriptures say become like a Babe.. REBORN.. when you are reborn you start all over with learning.. The milk of the word.

You say non sence because I do not change what I say..

read my posts from the beginning.. ask people who are on hear if I waver in the Scriptures or if chr-stians do.

I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.

You all love condemning people.. Did Yahshua get on to the ones who werwe suppose to believe or the ones that did not believe or who were the outcast.. Me and My House will Follow Yahweh..Blessings..Miles



I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.


I waver none. If it seems as I do, I would suggest rereading what I said, cause if it seems I am wavering that would mean you misread something my friend.


Cowboy.. you say this is a commandment and jc is the law and has the right to judge then say the law is done away.

thats not right.

without knowing what the law says how can you say its done away? Whats done away?

a pick and choose religion.

Tell me what I pick and choose? Blessings..Miles


The laws given to us by God are only for a time being, they only are there till all prophecies are fulfilled. All the prophecies in the old laws were fulfilled, thus we were given a new covenant since that one was complete. It's not picking and choosing anything. God tells us ahead of time the laws only hold power till all prophecies are fulfilled. So the new laws we have been given will hold power till all the prophecies of the new covenant are fulfilled.


Cowboy.. does scripture interpret scripture? I say scripture is what says what is done away and what is not. all i want to see is what scriptures give you the right to say the law is done away or what law is done away.. Is that 2 much to ask? Blessings..Miles


Matthew 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Definition of Fulfill - Bring to completion or reality; achieve or realize (something desired, promised, or predicted).

Notice, "BRING TO COMPLETION".



if I fullfill my duties at work today does that mean tommorrow i have no duties?

so looking on a woman with lust in your heart is not adultry..

i thought you say you need to read all the scriptures around them.. so when Yahweh says he is the same yesterday today and tommorrow.. that is not what he meant.

will the law be in force like the Feast of Tabernacles in Zech 14: 14? where is the fairness to all creation? Blessings..Miles


Yes if you fulfill your duties at work today, you have no more work for today. When tomorrow comes, if you fulfill all your work tomorrow, you'll have no more work tomorrow.

Example:

Tomorrow's prophecy, you go to work, do your work, come home.
----------

Once tomorrow passes, you will have fulfilled that prophecy. Completed it. Finished it. It will hold no more power.

*disclaimer* This prophecy isn't true to the extent of being an actual prophecy, was merely said as an example"



so looking on a woman with lust in your heart is not adultry.


Why would it not be?

New covenant/new testament - Matthew 5:28
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

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Mon 04/18/11 06:14 AM

so looking on a woman with lust in your heart is not adultry.


Why would it not be?

New covenant/new testament - Matthew 5:28
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


I have to side with Cowboy on this one....

Adam and Eve did not have the knowledge of Lust before they took from the fruit

but God commanded them to be fruitful and multiply which mean they were supposed to have sex without the inclusion of Lust since they did not have that knowledge

it may be Hard (no pun intended) to have sex without Lust...but when God command you to do something...you gotta do what you gotta do

sex without lust may not have been that much of a problem for Eve...but with Adam it's a different story...and places a new spin on why Adam may have taken from the fruit....

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Mon 04/18/11 07:39 AM











"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven [see Christian Living]. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name [to understand the two ways that God's Name is taken in vain, see The Third Commandment], and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' [see I Did It My Way...] And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030604.htm

This is why I will not respond.

Posting this for Cowboy...


so you can not defend who you say is the Messiah so you attack.. I have seen this before. Yahshua shut every one up who tried to come against his words.

I am nobody but a believer that will defend Yahshua. You can not defend yourself or what you believe.

a message board and you are scared why?

because the TRUTH is not in you. Period. True? Miles


You are not a believer - not even close - If you were a believer you would be agreeing with me.

If anything you are an anti-believer. Not a nonbeliever but someone that claims to be a believer only to get a Christian to drop their guard and fall into your trap. The first few posts you have in this thread I thought you were a Christian... That is why I posted that passage.

I am sure you consider yourself quite clever and you love the idea of running in circles to confuse the people you are debating with.

But like I said, there is absolutely no point in debating you when you have said a few times now that there is nothing I can say to you that will get you to change your mind. You disbelieve in Christ and yet claim to be a believer. Then you paraphrase the Bible and act as if you are more knowledgeable. Please...

Just as an example, you used the second half of the passage I posted to try to imply Cowboy was a fool and even a blasphemer.

By posting only a portion of it you took away its true meaning. You in essence said Cowboy was a false prophet.

So, good luck in destroying other Christians. I will pray for you.

God Bless.




You do not want the TRUTH of what the BIBLE says.. You want your truth and your flock.

Just like Satan does.

Cowboy is decieved.. the scriptures say become like a Babe.. REBORN.. when you are reborn you start all over with learning.. The milk of the word.

You say non sence because I do not change what I say..

read my posts from the beginning.. ask people who are on hear if I waver in the Scriptures or if chr-stians do.

I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.

You all love condemning people.. Did Yahshua get on to the ones who werwe suppose to believe or the ones that did not believe or who were the outcast.. Me and My House will Follow Yahweh..Blessings..Miles



I do not waver because I will not follow traditionj.. All I need is the Scriptures. and Cowboy wavers so much he is not helping anybody.


I waver none. If it seems as I do, I would suggest rereading what I said, cause if it seems I am wavering that would mean you misread something my friend.


Cowboy.. you say this is a commandment and jc is the law and has the right to judge then say the law is done away.

thats not right.

without knowing what the law says how can you say its done away? Whats done away?

a pick and choose religion.

Tell me what I pick and choose? Blessings..Miles


The laws given to us by God are only for a time being, they only are there till all prophecies are fulfilled. All the prophecies in the old laws were fulfilled, thus we were given a new covenant since that one was complete. It's not picking and choosing anything. God tells us ahead of time the laws only hold power till all prophecies are fulfilled. So the new laws we have been given will hold power till all the prophecies of the new covenant are fulfilled.


Cowboy.. does scripture interpret scripture? I say scripture is what says what is done away and what is not. all i want to see is what scriptures give you the right to say the law is done away or what law is done away.. Is that 2 much to ask? Blessings..Miles


Matthew 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Definition of Fulfill - Bring to completion or reality; achieve or realize (something desired, promised, or predicted).

Notice, "BRING TO COMPLETION".



if I fullfill my duties at work today does that mean tommorrow i have no duties?

so looking on a woman with lust in your heart is not adultry..

i thought you say you need to read all the scriptures around them.. so when Yahweh says he is the same yesterday today and tommorrow.. that is not what he meant.

will the law be in force like the Feast of Tabernacles in Zech 14: 14? where is the fairness to all creation? Blessings..Miles


Yes if you fulfill your duties at work today, you have no more work for today. When tomorrow comes, if you fulfill all your work tomorrow, you'll have no more work tomorrow.

Example:

Tomorrow's prophecy, you go to work, do your work, come home.
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Once tomorrow passes, you will have fulfilled that prophecy. Completed it. Finished it. It will hold no more power.

*disclaimer* This prophecy isn't true to the extent of being an actual prophecy, was merely said as an example"



so looking on a woman with lust in your heart is not adultry.


Why would it not be?

New covenant/new testament - Matthew 5:28
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


so he was not explaining what the commandments said in the 1st place.. cowboy.. you all pick and choose. fullfilling a commandment and completing a commandment is not do away with the commandment.. i fed my kid today so i can throw him away now?

ou say 10 commandments then say well 1 day in 7 yet hebrews says differently.. Peter at least 10 years after the Messiahs death. said he had not eaten anything unclean in his life when he seen the vision and would not accept it on face value.. then the 3 show up and he sees men are not clean. he was keeping the law.. Paulk even Sacraficed in acts 21.. why to show he kept the law.. it even says those words. why do you want to go along with the LAWLESS one that says he will change times and laws no matter what. what are we being warned about when it speaks of fleeing the LAWLESS one.. mans Laws or Yahweh's? Blessings..Miles

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