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Topic: Sticks and Stones
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Wed 04/20/11 04:23 AM








something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






The Holy spirit entering a body isn't quite the same as a demon possession. A demon possession is where a demon would take entire control of that body whom it possessed. The holy spirit entering one's body doesn't take control. It merely works with your conscience. It doesn't forcibly make you do anything as would a possession from a demon being. The Holy spirit will not enter until it is invited. Again, it doesn't force anything on anyone as does a demon possession.


Cowboy ...if you claim that the holy spirit enters into your body and works with your conscious ...that would be the same as demon possession...once the conscious is involved it takes away "Free Will"

as Captain Kirk would say....What does the holy spirit need with your conscious?




Has absolutely nothing to do with a possession, nor does it take any free will away. A possession consists of someone being totally taken control by a demon. Basically turning you into a sock or a glove. The glove *you* has absolutely no control of what the hand *the demon* does. You allowing the holy spirit into you isn't a possession, for it is still you that is doing your actions. The holy spirit works with your conscience. Teaches you and informs you what is right and or what is wrong. You're conscience has no absolute control over your actions.


Cowboy ...your conscience is supposed to use "Free Will" to learn from the bible and use faith that's what you are learning from the bible is the word of God ...

this is why the faithful would not need or have to allow some other entity to help steer their conscience....that is the purpose of the bible and faith

this explains why the religious can not stop intentionly sinning and committing evil because they allow demons posing as The Holy Spirit to possess them and teach them ...and steer their conscience

in other words Cowboy...since you are allowing things to enter into you body then it's more than likely that you have a demon in you ....you may need an Exorcist

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Wed 04/20/11 04:30 AM






something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






Nope:

The Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity.

A demon is a fallen angel.

The Holy Spirit is part of the being that created angels.

It would be different.

Free will is commonly misunderstood. You have freedom to do as you choose. The biggest thing Free Will entails is choosing to believe in God, Jesus and The Spirit or not. If you choose to accept the Spirit into your life and turn your life over to Him you are not loosing Free Will. You are allowing the Spirit to guide you.

Let me know if that confuses you...


yea actually it does. where does it say the holy spirit is a trinity?


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Wed 04/20/11 04:45 AM







something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






Nope:

The Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity.

A demon is a fallen angel.

The Holy Spirit is part of the being that created angels.

It would be different.

Free will is commonly misunderstood. You have freedom to do as you choose. The biggest thing Free Will entails is choosing to believe in God, Jesus and The Spirit or not. If you choose to accept the Spirit into your life and turn your life over to Him you are not loosing Free Will. You are allowing the Spirit to guide you.

Let me know if that confuses you...


yea actually it does. where does it say the holy spirit is a trinity?




I was referring to Free Will being confusing.

I am aware you don't believe in the Trinity.


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Wed 04/20/11 04:51 AM






something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






Nope:

The Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity.

A demon is a fallen angel.

The Holy Spirit is part of the being that created angels.

It would be different.

Free will is commonly misunderstood. You have freedom to do as you choose. The biggest thing Free Will entails is choosing to believe in God, Jesus and The Spirit or not. If you choose to accept the Spirit into your life and turn your life over to Him you are not loosing Free Will. You are allowing the Spirit to guide you.

Let me know if that confuses you...


"mylifetoday"...or perhaps I can use your own words to help unconfuse you...you just posted if one accept the holy spirit "and turn over your life to him"

anytime you turn over anything to another you give them the "Will" and in the case of "turning over you life to another" you in turn turn over your "Free Will"

the religious will always claim that Man do not have the knowledge to comprehend God so why now try to claim that you somehow know that it's the holy spirit in you....that would be arrogance....and arrogance supposedly belongs to Satan.....this is why you more than likely have a member of Satan's legion in you and not the holy spirit

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Wed 04/20/11 04:57 AM







something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"



but speaking of the phrase people use "God created Adam and Eve and not Adam and Eve".....here' something to ponder...since God created Adam first and then created Eve much later as a second thought ...then exactly what did he have in store for Adam ...was Adam for him? ...

wouldn't it make sense that God's first plan was to fill Adam with the holy spirit and get him pregnant...wouldn't that mean that God did create Adam and Steve? ..since God made Man in his own image...I guess that would make God Steve




rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


well God has to be Steve he can't be Adam .....it's fact of the bible that God created Adam first....what were Adam there to do without Eve ....this may be one of those questions that the religious can't answer....or even dare to answer

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Wed 04/20/11 05:01 AM







something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






Nope:

The Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity.

A demon is a fallen angel.

The Holy Spirit is part of the being that created angels.

It would be different.

Free will is commonly misunderstood. You have freedom to do as you choose. The biggest thing Free Will entails is choosing to believe in God, Jesus and The Spirit or not. If you choose to accept the Spirit into your life and turn your life over to Him you are not loosing Free Will. You are allowing the Spirit to guide you.

Let me know if that confuses you...


"mylifetoday"...or perhaps I can use your own words to help unconfuse you...you just posted if one accept the holy spirit "and turn over your life to him"

anytime you turn over anything to another you give them the "Will" and in the case of "turning over you life to another" you in turn turn over your "Free Will"

the religious will always claim that Man do not have the knowledge to comprehend God so why now try to claim that you somehow know that it's the holy spirit in you....that would be arrogance....and arrogance supposedly belongs to Satan.....this is why you more than likely have a member of Satan's legion in you and not the holy spirit


Actually, you have a really good point. How do you know...

I don't know that there is any logical test you can make to verify if it is a demon or the Spirit. But you can test the Spirit with Scripture and you are supposed to test the Spirit with scripture.

There have been a few movies made on this subject on mistakenly following the wrong spirit. It can happen.

I would say if you aren't sure, you should not let it in. Better to be safe than sorry.

But if a person relies upon their own wit, they will be outsmarted by Satan every time. Doesn't matter how clever you are. That is why you need to know scripture.

Satan is the father of lies. He will never lie directly to you. He will give you a twisted truth. When you accept that then he will give you another that branches off the first. He is very cunning and deceptive. And if we only rely on ourselves, we will fail all the time. His greatest trick is making us think we are so clever that we have accomplished all we have on our own and we don't need God.

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Wed 04/20/11 05:01 AM








something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






Nope:

The Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity.

A demon is a fallen angel.

The Holy Spirit is part of the being that created angels.

It would be different.

Free will is commonly misunderstood. You have freedom to do as you choose. The biggest thing Free Will entails is choosing to believe in God, Jesus and The Spirit or not. If you choose to accept the Spirit into your life and turn your life over to Him you are not loosing Free Will. You are allowing the Spirit to guide you.

Let me know if that confuses you...


yea actually it does. where does it say the holy spirit is a trinity?




I was referring to Free Will being confusing.

I am aware you don't believe in the Trinity.




perhaps if you can show where in the bible that it states that The Holy Spirit is part of The Trinity then perhaps Milesoftheusa would believe in it

so "mylifetoday"....can you show sure a passage that states Trinity?

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Wed 04/20/11 05:08 AM








something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"



but speaking of the phrase people use "God created Adam and Eve and not Adam and Eve".....here' something to ponder...since God created Adam first and then created Eve much later as a second thought ...then exactly what did he have in store for Adam ...was Adam for him? ...

wouldn't it make sense that God's first plan was to fill Adam with the holy spirit and get him pregnant...wouldn't that mean that God did create Adam and Steve? ..since God made Man in his own image...I guess that would make God Steve




rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


well God has to be Steve he can't be Adam .....it's fact of the bible that God created Adam first....what were Adam there to do without Eve ....this may be one of those questions that the religious can't answer....or even dare to answer


I just thought your statement was really funny.

The answer is directly in the Bible.

Real easy to find. Start at the beginning. You will have your answer before you finish the second page.

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Wed 04/20/11 05:10 AM









something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






Nope:

The Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity.

A demon is a fallen angel.

The Holy Spirit is part of the being that created angels.

It would be different.

Free will is commonly misunderstood. You have freedom to do as you choose. The biggest thing Free Will entails is choosing to believe in God, Jesus and The Spirit or not. If you choose to accept the Spirit into your life and turn your life over to Him you are not loosing Free Will. You are allowing the Spirit to guide you.

Let me know if that confuses you...


yea actually it does. where does it say the holy spirit is a trinity?




I was referring to Free Will being confusing.

I am aware you don't believe in the Trinity.




perhaps if you can show where in the bible that it states that The Holy Spirit is part of The Trinity then perhaps Milesoftheusa would believe in it

so "mylifetoday"....can you show sure a passage that states Trinity?


http://www.biblebb.com/files/tniv/TRINITY.TXT

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Wed 04/20/11 05:13 AM









something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






The Holy spirit entering a body isn't quite the same as a demon possession. A demon possession is where a demon would take entire control of that body whom it possessed. The holy spirit entering one's body doesn't take control. It merely works with your conscience. It doesn't forcibly make you do anything as would a possession from a demon being. The Holy spirit will not enter until it is invited. Again, it doesn't force anything on anyone as does a demon possession.


Cowboy ...if you claim that the holy spirit enters into your body and works with your conscious ...that would be the same as demon possession...once the conscious is involved it takes away "Free Will"

as Captain Kirk would say....What does the holy spirit need with your conscious?




Has absolutely nothing to do with a possession, nor does it take any free will away. A possession consists of someone being totally taken control by a demon. Basically turning you into a sock or a glove. The glove *you* has absolutely no control of what the hand *the demon* does. You allowing the holy spirit into you isn't a possession, for it is still you that is doing your actions. The holy spirit works with your conscience. Teaches you and informs you what is right and or what is wrong. You're conscience has no absolute control over your actions.


are you saying that when in the spirit you have no control over your conscience.. is that what i am understanding


Nobody has direct control over their conscience. You don't choose what to feel bad about, you don't choose what to feel guilty about. Just happens. That is your conscience. Yes your conscience is tied in subconsciously, but you don't have total control of your conscience.

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Wed 04/20/11 05:18 AM








something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






Nope:

The Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity.

A demon is a fallen angel.

The Holy Spirit is part of the being that created angels.

It would be different.

Free will is commonly misunderstood. You have freedom to do as you choose. The biggest thing Free Will entails is choosing to believe in God, Jesus and The Spirit or not. If you choose to accept the Spirit into your life and turn your life over to Him you are not loosing Free Will. You are allowing the Spirit to guide you.

Let me know if that confuses you...


"mylifetoday"...or perhaps I can use your own words to help unconfuse you...you just posted if one accept the holy spirit "and turn over your life to him"

anytime you turn over anything to another you give them the "Will" and in the case of "turning over you life to another" you in turn turn over your "Free Will"

the religious will always claim that Man do not have the knowledge to comprehend God so why now try to claim that you somehow know that it's the holy spirit in you....that would be arrogance....and arrogance supposedly belongs to Satan.....this is why you more than likely have a member of Satan's legion in you and not the holy spirit


Actually, you have a really good point. How do you know...

I don't know that there is any logical test you can make to verify if it is a demon or the Spirit. But you can test the Spirit with Scripture and you are supposed to test the Spirit with scripture.

There have been a few movies made on this subject on mistakenly following the wrong spirit. It can happen.

I would say if you aren't sure, you should not let it in. Better to be safe than sorry.

But if a person relies upon their own wit, they will be outsmarted by Satan every time. Doesn't matter how clever you are. That is why you need to know scripture.

Satan is the father of lies. He will never lie directly to you. He will give you a twisted truth. When you accept that then he will give you another that branches off the first. He is very cunning and deceptive. And if we only rely on ourselves, we will fail all the time. His greatest trick is making us think we are so clever that we have accomplished all we have on our own and we don't need God.


actually you got it backwards...Satan power lies in telling the truth which is why trying to outwit Satan would mean you would be resorting to telling lies and outwitting oneself and that is how a demon can get into you

the bible was given to you for a reason so that you can use it and your faith against Satan ....if you use these tools then it's no need to allow anything to enter into you ....wouldn't only those that lacked faith allow this

but anyway here's an example of how Satan power lies in telling the truth.......I'm not saying that Satan would do this...but what if Satan went up to a child and said sex is when a Man places his penis into the vagina of a woman ...what did he just give to the child....evil, truth or knowledge?

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Wed 04/20/11 05:24 AM










something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






Nope:

The Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity.

A demon is a fallen angel.

The Holy Spirit is part of the being that created angels.

It would be different.

Free will is commonly misunderstood. You have freedom to do as you choose. The biggest thing Free Will entails is choosing to believe in God, Jesus and The Spirit or not. If you choose to accept the Spirit into your life and turn your life over to Him you are not loosing Free Will. You are allowing the Spirit to guide you.

Let me know if that confuses you...


yea actually it does. where does it say the holy spirit is a trinity?




I was referring to Free Will being confusing.

I am aware you don't believe in the Trinity.




perhaps if you can show where in the bible that it states that The Holy Spirit is part of The Trinity then perhaps Milesoftheusa would believe in it

so "mylifetoday"....can you show sure a passage that states Trinity?


http://www.biblebb.com/files/tniv/TRINITY.TXT


?mylifetoday"...I asked you for a passage in the bible...not a link to one of those Satan Websites

can you or can you not supply a passage from the bible where it states specifically that the holy spirit is part of "The Trinity"

...er...while you are searching can you make sure the passage states "The Trinity"

didn't they just recently make a New Bible...NKJV ...try that one

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Wed 04/20/11 05:28 AM









something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






Nope:

The Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity.

A demon is a fallen angel.

The Holy Spirit is part of the being that created angels.

It would be different.

Free will is commonly misunderstood. You have freedom to do as you choose. The biggest thing Free Will entails is choosing to believe in God, Jesus and The Spirit or not. If you choose to accept the Spirit into your life and turn your life over to Him you are not loosing Free Will. You are allowing the Spirit to guide you.

Let me know if that confuses you...


"mylifetoday"...or perhaps I can use your own words to help unconfuse you...you just posted if one accept the holy spirit "and turn over your life to him"

anytime you turn over anything to another you give them the "Will" and in the case of "turning over you life to another" you in turn turn over your "Free Will"

the religious will always claim that Man do not have the knowledge to comprehend God so why now try to claim that you somehow know that it's the holy spirit in you....that would be arrogance....and arrogance supposedly belongs to Satan.....this is why you more than likely have a member of Satan's legion in you and not the holy spirit


Actually, you have a really good point. How do you know...

I don't know that there is any logical test you can make to verify if it is a demon or the Spirit. But you can test the Spirit with Scripture and you are supposed to test the Spirit with scripture.

There have been a few movies made on this subject on mistakenly following the wrong spirit. It can happen.

I would say if you aren't sure, you should not let it in. Better to be safe than sorry.

But if a person relies upon their own wit, they will be outsmarted by Satan every time. Doesn't matter how clever you are. That is why you need to know scripture.

Satan is the father of lies. He will never lie directly to you. He will give you a twisted truth. When you accept that then he will give you another that branches off the first. He is very cunning and deceptive. And if we only rely on ourselves, we will fail all the time. His greatest trick is making us think we are so clever that we have accomplished all we have on our own and we don't need God.


actually you got it backwards...Satan power lies in telling the truth which is why trying to outwit Satan would mean you would be resorting to telling lies and outwitting oneself and that is how a demon can get into you

the bible was given to you for a reason so that you can use it and your faith against Satan ....if you use these tools then it's no need to allow anything to enter into you ....wouldn't only those that lacked faith allow this

but anyway here's an example of how Satan power lies in telling the truth.......I'm not saying that Satan would do this...but what if Satan went up to a child and said sex is when a Man places his penis into the vagina of a woman ...what did he just give to the child....evil, truth or knowledge?


Satan only tells the whole truth when it serves his purpose. His purpose is to always mislead and confuse and steer you away from God and His Salvation. Knowledge in and of itself is not evil as you are implying.

The only way to fight Satan is with Truth. The Truth in scripture. Lying is Satan's tool. Don't know why you are arguing it isn't. That makes no sense at all... Like I said, his lies are very cunningly hidden. They can appear to be truth very easily.


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Wed 04/20/11 05:32 AM










something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






The Holy spirit entering a body isn't quite the same as a demon possession. A demon possession is where a demon would take entire control of that body whom it possessed. The holy spirit entering one's body doesn't take control. It merely works with your conscience. It doesn't forcibly make you do anything as would a possession from a demon being. The Holy spirit will not enter until it is invited. Again, it doesn't force anything on anyone as does a demon possession.


Cowboy ...if you claim that the holy spirit enters into your body and works with your conscious ...that would be the same as demon possession...once the conscious is involved it takes away "Free Will"

as Captain Kirk would say....What does the holy spirit need with your conscious?




Has absolutely nothing to do with a possession, nor does it take any free will away. A possession consists of someone being totally taken control by a demon. Basically turning you into a sock or a glove. The glove *you* has absolutely no control of what the hand *the demon* does. You allowing the holy spirit into you isn't a possession, for it is still you that is doing your actions. The holy spirit works with your conscience. Teaches you and informs you what is right and or what is wrong. You're conscience has no absolute control over your actions.


are you saying that when in the spirit you have no control over your conscience.. is that what i am understanding


Nobody has direct control over their conscience. You don't choose what to feel bad about, you don't choose what to feel guilty about. Just happens. That is your conscience. Yes your conscience is tied in subconsciously, but you don't have total control of your conscience.


Cowboy...you also do not choose to get gas...but wouldn't you agree that you do choose whether to allow some other entity into your body...so why are you trying to make excuses....or could it be a demon that steering your conscience to do that?

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Wed 04/20/11 05:36 AM

Satan only tells the whole truth when it serves his purpose. His purpose is to always mislead and confuse and steer you away from God and His Salvation. Knowledge in and of itself is not evil as you are implying.

The only way to fight Satan is with Truth. The Truth in scripture. Lying is Satan's tool. Don't know why you are arguing it isn't. That makes no sense at all... Like I said, his lies are very cunningly hidden. They can appear to be truth very easily.


"mylifetoday"...list the lies that Satan have told...let's count them

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Wed 04/20/11 05:38 AM











something to ponder

if God is Omnipresence which means that he would also be present in everyone's bedroom when they are doing naughty spanky spanky things ....wouldn't that mean that God watches porn


If God dwells within each of us it actually means that God engages in porn.


God do not dwell within or engages into porn with Men ...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve


isn't the holy spirit entering a body the same as demon posession...how can God enter someone and they still have "Free Will"






The Holy spirit entering a body isn't quite the same as a demon possession. A demon possession is where a demon would take entire control of that body whom it possessed. The holy spirit entering one's body doesn't take control. It merely works with your conscience. It doesn't forcibly make you do anything as would a possession from a demon being. The Holy spirit will not enter until it is invited. Again, it doesn't force anything on anyone as does a demon possession.


Cowboy ...if you claim that the holy spirit enters into your body and works with your conscious ...that would be the same as demon possession...once the conscious is involved it takes away "Free Will"

as Captain Kirk would say....What does the holy spirit need with your conscious?




Has absolutely nothing to do with a possession, nor does it take any free will away. A possession consists of someone being totally taken control by a demon. Basically turning you into a sock or a glove. The glove *you* has absolutely no control of what the hand *the demon* does. You allowing the holy spirit into you isn't a possession, for it is still you that is doing your actions. The holy spirit works with your conscience. Teaches you and informs you what is right and or what is wrong. You're conscience has no absolute control over your actions.


are you saying that when in the spirit you have no control over your conscience.. is that what i am understanding


Nobody has direct control over their conscience. You don't choose what to feel bad about, you don't choose what to feel guilty about. Just happens. That is your conscience. Yes your conscience is tied in subconsciously, but you don't have total control of your conscience.


Cowboy...you also do not choose to get gas...but wouldn't you agree that you do choose whether to allow some other entity into your body...so why are you trying to make excuses....or could it be a demon that steering your conscience to do that?


Yes one does allow the holy spirit in. One, invites the holy spirit in. The holy spirit will not reside in you less invited. A demon possession does it forcibly weather you wish for it or not.

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Wed 04/20/11 05:40 AM


Satan only tells the whole truth when it serves his purpose. His purpose is to always mislead and confuse and steer you away from God and His Salvation. Knowledge in and of itself is not evil as you are implying.

The only way to fight Satan is with Truth. The Truth in scripture. Lying is Satan's tool. Don't know why you are arguing it isn't. That makes no sense at all... Like I said, his lies are very cunningly hidden. They can appear to be truth very easily.


"mylifetoday"...list the lies that Satan have told...let's count them


The most immediate and most apparent lie Satan tells is either God our father does not exist and or is inferior to Satan.

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Wed 04/20/11 05:45 AM


Satan only tells the whole truth when it serves his purpose. His purpose is to always mislead and confuse and steer you away from God and His Salvation. Knowledge in and of itself is not evil as you are implying.

The only way to fight Satan is with Truth. The Truth in scripture. Lying is Satan's tool. Don't know why you are arguing it isn't. That makes no sense at all... Like I said, his lies are very cunningly hidden. They can appear to be truth very easily.


"mylifetoday"...list the lies that Satan have told...let's count them


Oh my Good Lord!

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Wed 04/20/11 05:47 AM

Yes one does allow the holy spirit in. One, invites the holy spirit in. The holy spirit will not reside in you less invited. A demon possession does it forcibly weather you wish for it or not.


Cowboy ...if you allow a demon in then this is not force ....also wouldn't you agree that you lack the knowledge to comprehend God and therefore wouldn't actually know what you let into yourself .....but enter way you look at it...you are being possess

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Wed 04/20/11 05:49 AM


Yes one does allow the holy spirit in. One, invites the holy spirit in. The holy spirit will not reside in you less invited. A demon possession does it forcibly weather you wish for it or not.


Cowboy ...if you allow a demon in then this is not force ....also wouldn't you agree that you lack the knowledge to comprehend God and therefore wouldn't actually know what you let into yourself .....but enter way you look at it...you are being possess


No it's not by force if one allows a demon in. But nevertheless is a possession for that person would have loss entirely or part of their control over their actions. If one doesn't loose control of their actions to at least some degree, then that one has not been possessed.

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