Like I am going to believe a bunch of garbage from the mouth of the liberal magaizine like newsweek?Of course they are going to say that.But I challenge you once again to look at the other countries of the world on their views on gays.I keep brining up China many times since they are Aethist and there is no support what so ever for gays in that country.How many people are in that country?Over a billion?Look at Africa.Many of those people could care less about religion.Being gay in that country is a crime and could get you executed.All over the world it is the same story.So blaming the Christians is senseless and pointless since people both religious and non religious agree on this issue overwealminly all over this issue.Christianity aside no other religions accept this type of behaviour either.So if you are going to lump all the religions together on this issue you are going to have at least 90% of the world against gays.The rest of the 10% will probably not be very supportive either.As a matter of fact the only people who seem to support this issue is the gays themselves.

http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/viewarticle.php?selectedarticle=2008.12.19.001.pdart

Why Marriage is Inherently Heterosexual
by Patrick Lee
December 19, 2008

A recent story in Newsweek claimed that the only reasons for opposing same-sex “marriage” are religious. But there are powerful arguments for marriage rooted not in faith but in reason.
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You can read his arguments if you like. See link above

Like I am going to believe a bunch of garbage from the mouth of the liberal magaizine like newsweek?Of course they are going to say that.But I challenge you once again to look at the other countries of the world on their views on gays.I keep brining up China many times since they are Aethist and there is no support what so ever for gays in that country.How many people are in that country?Over a billion?Look at Africa.Many of those people could care less about religion.Being gay in that country is a crime and could get you executed.All over the world it is the same story.So blaming the Christians is senseless and pointless since people both religious and non religious agree on this issue overwealminly all over this issue.Christianity aside no other religions accept this type of behaviour either.So if you are going to lump all the religions together on this issue you are going to have at least 90% of the world against gays.The rest of the 10% will probably not be very supportive either.As a matter of fact the only people who seem to support this issue is the gays themselves.

I think it's painfully obvious there are certain members here who hate Chrisitans more than they hate anything else on this earth.It's not like we can't read between the lines here people.

Also flip flopping on your beliefs just because it may make you look like racist only worsens your cause.I respect people alot more when they can give a constant answer they trully belive in instead of yaking a bunch of filler to please the masses.

I think it's painfully obvious there are certain members here who hate Chrisitans more than they hate anything else on this earth.It's not like we can't read between the lines here people.

Also flip flopping on your beliefs just because it may make you look like racist only worsens your cause.I respect people alot more when they can give a constant answer they trully belive in instead of yaking a bunch of filler to please the masses.

You spew hate more than most people here, yet you're talking about other people who hate?

Looks to me like free speech and the ability to disagree with a populist view without adding some fairy dust and sweet nothings (political correctness) is the fast track to getting booted. Here or HERE.

ALL ABOARD Obamas bullet train to socialism. Second car, reserved for "acceptable" (diplomatic & liberal) minglers.

Resistance is futile!

that's the borg hun

boo...for me...i see anti-christian because of this thread and many others

boo...can you explain what you meant about this??? i'm not sure i understood you

'If you don't believe' makes those places christian organizations?


do you mean if a specific religion wants to go by their beliefs they should fund one of their own??? this i agree with but then again it's a catch 22

hey...i'm a former trekkie lol

Well I forgot to respond to one thing you said, you say you see anti-christian, but I really don't see that, I see anger with some christians on the far right about this issue. Why people need to remind us that we are not liked by the rest of the world too is beyond me, as if we aren't aware that we are disliked in many religions and in many non-religious circles.

After a while I think people that are so disliked get really angry after constant harrasment from the religious community or mostly christians.

My pride wants to say I am angry, but if I really am honest it hurts, though I am uncomfortable giving the enemy that much power, so I don't focus on the hurt as much as the anger? Does that make sense? That is why explaning myself over and over with every new gay topic is frustrating.

Since christianity is the most vocal it gets the most flack. I am aware that sometime I am so ticked off by things said in here that I can sound antichristian but you have to read closer, I am actually not antichristian. If I was I would not have the friends I do.

The 'if you don't believe' thing was just about exclusivity, not sure how to explain that one better. I think religious folks should feel free to marry in a church if that is what they believe. I don't get the 'fund one of their own thing'?

Former. Good, good. Are you SURE you don't mind admitting that?

It's painfully obvious some members don't read so well. I haven't read any member in this thread yet that actually hates christians, I would say it's more about some christians attitudes.

If you are reading between the lines and did'nt get it well then you can't be reading any of it, all that well, especially when you accuse an article before you have even read it and it turns out to be in your favor. That's got to the funniest thing i have seen all day.

Looks to me like free speech and the ability to disagree with a populist view without adding some fairy dust and sweet nothings (political correctness) is the fast track to getting booted. Here or HERE.

ALL ABOARD Obamas bullet train to socialism. Second car, reserved for "acceptable" (diplomatic & liberal) minglers.

Resistance is futile!

Why does it always have to be "either you are with me or you are against me". Is that only a Christian philosophy or is a human flaw?


Why do Christians take the pointing out of the imbalance of power they have been allowed in this country as an attack on them personally?

Can't they step back for a moment and see that people are not telling them they cannot be Christian, people are telling them to stop publically stepping on toes in the name of that said religion.

Christians are not the morality of this country, though they have been led to believe they were, Christians are not the guard to the cookie jar of decadent behavior, they participate in it themselves, Christians are not the rock of decency that holds this country to a certain standard but believe they are, being christian does not make you a better citizen in this country, etc....

Me saying that is not one iota of an attack on a Christian at any level and if you saw it that way, you would be part of the problem here.