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Besides dragoness...i'm not against gay marriage. What i am against are gays trying to force churches to abide by this. I personally think that civil unions, whether it be gay or straight, should be recognized by only the state. Call it whatever you want. But they shouldn't be allowed to forced churches to perform these ceremonies. And besides, didn't you see me mention that i am all about everyone getting treated equally? Who said anything about "forcing churches to go along with it"? I have yet to see that "forcing" in all of this. Well....would the churches have to wed these people against the church's will? Not sure how this legal process is even handled... Wow, Driven, where did you get that from? The church can do anything likes, it's free to discriminate at will. Gays want the right to marry, not force churches to marry them. Although I think that if a church chooses to they probably have the right to, but I personally don't care. Why would I want to get married in an organization that has historically treated me like a disease.. wrong...the church can't do anything it likes and they don't discriminate at will...maybe some people you know do....but most that i know are very welcoming. but just like anything they do have rights as well. everyone keeps talking about history....before my time while the OP talks about getting with the time's because they are changing Ok I'm wrong, churches love homosexuals. They "love" you but you will have to conform to recieve the full acceptance since you are hell bound otherwise. Oh the Judgements..... Yes I know, that is why most don't rush to join the church and those that do either don't mention they are gay or deal with the preachers talking about homosexuals. I know I would lose my cool if I had to endure the preacher talking about homosexuals the way they do today. I can't remember the church service that I went to, I mean the name of the church but the preacher was practically screaming about the sin of homosexuality. I was in my early twenties and I stood up and just walked out, I had all I could do to keep from going back in there and screaming right back at him. But I was a chicken sh$t then. Never stepped foot in one since. Rose, I realize there maybe some churches that accept you superficially and even may act nicely toward you, but deep down there is always that nagging feeling that you are un-welcome. I never got over that and it shows, I am sure. I can't fight christians with scripture, Im menopausal, i won't remember them long enough. LOL Lucky for me I haven't run into any christians I have to fight with..um except here maybe. |
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Due to popular demand I feel a need to address something! The GLBT is an organization with members. They even have a historical web-site. When one, such as myself, talks about them they are not talking about every gay, lesbian, Bi-homosexual, or Transgender. They, me included are talking about an organization. IMO, an unethical organization whose methods for advancing the rights of G, L, B,& Ts has no boundaries or restraints. They will do anything no matter how reckless their methods are, or who, or what they hurt or destroy along the way. If, as a G, L, B, or T, you feel as though a debate about there lack of ethics is off limits or refers to all G, B, L, and T's then you are sadly mistaken. I am sure that not all G, B, L, and T's approve of such unethical and reckless methods they employ and as such would never think of joining or supporting such methods! If you are not a member then the debate about them should not concern your sensitivities. If you are a member I might suggest you rethink your membership and quit them, or become an active, non-complacent member and work to correct their Unethical and reckless methods. If you are a local group I might suggest you invent a new name and drop the association with the GLBT! Ok you're gonna have to come up with some demonstratable facts like where is this supposed website? Where are they physcially located? Who is their head. There are literally thousands of websites with those letters and through out the community those letters are used synonomously with referring to all GLBT's. Personally I think think this a load, but if you can come up with any of the above information I may concede that you may have been misled into believing what you just said. |
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and i have used those same scripture against them too
even as stubborn as i am...i am seeing that everyone can believe what they want as long is it is what that person believes.... glad I can actually mean that people have their right to beliefs and opinions....even if I am in the minority here |
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I didnt come into this thread to debate homosexual behavior. I think everyone knows my beliefs on that subject. Still I could really careless if they marry or not. I came into this thread to debate the unethical, controversial, reckless, and hypocritical methods used by the GLBT. An organization! I will admit i know nothing about the organization. But what i have seen is affirmative action taken to an extreme where it is easier for a woman or african american to get a business loan than a caucasian man, for instance. In SOME cases things do get pushed a bit too far. I do emphasize SOME. This reminds me of a song by Creed called "One" "Affirmative may be justified take from one give to another The goal is to be unified take my hand be my brother The payment silenced the masses sanctified by oppression Unity took a back seat sliding further into regression Chorus: One oh One the only way is One One oh One the only way is One I feel angry I feel helpless, wanna change the world yeah.. I feel violent I feel alone, don't try and change my mind no.. Society blind by color why hold down one to raise another Discrimination now on both sides seeds of hate blossom further The world is headed for mutiny, when all we want is unity We may rise and fall, but in the end we meet our fate together" I love the general message they were trying to send. I'm all about equal rights. Humans get treated the same professionally and get governed the same. This is also a myth created to continue discrimination and oppression. They make those programs because there are a shortage of those groups in that area. It is an incentive to get more opportunity out there. Until discrimination is obliterated in this country there will be a place for government intervention. And we are nowhere near there. LOL... Ok which part was the myth? I've taken classes with bank owners. This is what they say. My father used to talk with them, this is what they say. THE VA EVEN BRIEFED US ON THISZ!!! The guy briefing was black, mind you, according to him women have a much higher chance of getting a loan approved for business than disabled vets, let alone regular vets. You see...when you say you must employ and equal number of men/women/homosexuals/african americans/etc. you are discrimminating AGAINST whoever the MAJORITY of people in that area are. You do see that right? I say again, i am all for EQUAL RIGHTS. But that means there can be no legislation sactioning or condeming, gays, african americans caucasians, women, etc... The races, nor sexual orientation, or even gender, should be mentioned. Then, society must evolve. I can't force you to think christianity isn't evil. Just like you can't force Fanta to think being gay is genetic. Too bad the government has to get involved because society cannot let go of the ignorancy of discriminating and oppressing a group of people. And it is as it should be until society evolves into enlightenment. Too bad there are people that think that we can only exercise religion in our own homes... This, by definition, is intolerance of all, instead of tolerance of all...IMO BTW do you have control issues? Just wondering.... |
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and i have used those same scripture against them too even as stubborn as i am...i am seeing that everyone can believe what they want as long is it is what that person believes.... glad I can actually mean that people have their right to beliefs and opinions....even if I am in the minority here  Drinks on me Rose!! |
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Too bad there are people that think that we can only exercise religion in our own homes... This, by definition, is intolerance of all, instead of tolerance of all...IMO BTW do you have control issues? Just wondering.... Hi Driven, Actually, why not excercise religion in your own home or church, why must it be in public? Do I really want to be tripping over some one meditating in the middle of the airport. Do I want to hear chanting outside my bedroom window, when I am trying to sleep? Are we so obsessed with our religions that we need to practice it everywhere, I wonder? It used to be that your religion was a private matter between you and your god, but it seems we wear it on our sleeves these days. I am glad that for the most part people where I live now are not in your face religious, they believe it's a private matter, and I think that is good thing. I believe it is a private matter as well. Just as our sexuality, we have bedrooms for that, do you really want public sex, I don't... oh wait we have that now too, but I guess I am a bit old fashioned, I don't want to see anyone going at it in the street. Just curious.. |
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who's enlightenment dragoness???? yours??? mine??? who??? everyone has the right to their beliefs and opinions as long as laws aren't broken. the KKK has a right to believe as they wish even if I disagree with what they believe in. I have a right to believe even if it is something you disagree with If you have reached the enlightenment of human rights being equal across the board in all areas of life and the pursuit of happiness then you don't need to reach enlightenment. Which I think you have already evolved there from your views. Once we reach this enlightmentment we have a full view of what negative emotions, actions, limitations, etc..... about others actually do to us personally and to the environment in which we all have to live together. Enlightenment is not a belief, it is not a point of view. Enlightenment is actually enough information. That is all. |
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Too bad there are people that think that we can only exercise religion in our own homes... This, by definition, is intolerance of all, instead of tolerance of all...IMO BTW do you have control issues? Just wondering.... Hi Driven, Actually, why not excercise religion in your own home or church, why must it be in public? Do I really want to be tripping over some one meditating in the middle of the airport. Do I want to hear chanting outside my bedroom window, when I am trying to sleep? Are we so obsessed with our religions that we need to practice it everywhere, I wonder? It used to be that your religion was a private matter between you and your god, but it seems we wear it on our sleeves these days. I am glad that for the most part people where I live now are not in your face religious, they believe it's a private matter, and I think that is good thing. I believe it is a private matter as well. Just as our sexuality, we have bedrooms for that, do you really want public sex, I don't... oh wait we have that now too, but I guess I am a bit old fashioned, I don't want to see anyone going at it in the street. Just curious.. It is irresponsible to throw religion around. It is irresponsible to keep preaching when people don't want to listen. But, the first amendment sanctions this. If a kid gets caught praying quietly at a lunch table and get's in trouble for it, that is a breach of constitutional rights. As is the muslim being forbade to pray somewhere out of sight when the time comes to do so. It is illegal to prohibit the free exercise thereof... Remember? There is a balance, but this cannot be forced. See where i am going? |
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I didnt come into this thread to debate homosexual behavior. I think everyone knows my beliefs on that subject. Still I could really careless if they marry or not. I came into this thread to debate the unethical, controversial, reckless, and hypocritical methods used by the GLBT. An organization! I will admit i know nothing about the organization. But what i have seen is affirmative action taken to an extreme where it is easier for a woman or african american to get a business loan than a caucasian man, for instance. In SOME cases things do get pushed a bit too far. I do emphasize SOME. This reminds me of a song by Creed called "One" "Affirmative may be justified take from one give to another The goal is to be unified take my hand be my brother The payment silenced the masses sanctified by oppression Unity took a back seat sliding further into regression Chorus: One oh One the only way is One One oh One the only way is One I feel angry I feel helpless, wanna change the world yeah.. I feel violent I feel alone, don't try and change my mind no.. Society blind by color why hold down one to raise another Discrimination now on both sides seeds of hate blossom further The world is headed for mutiny, when all we want is unity We may rise and fall, but in the end we meet our fate together" I love the general message they were trying to send. I'm all about equal rights. Humans get treated the same professionally and get governed the same. This is also a myth created to continue discrimination and oppression. They make those programs because there are a shortage of those groups in that area. It is an incentive to get more opportunity out there. Until discrimination is obliterated in this country there will be a place for government intervention. And we are nowhere near there. LOL... Ok which part was the myth? I've taken classes with bank owners. This is what they say. My father used to talk with them, this is what they say. THE VA EVEN BRIEFED US ON THISZ!!! The guy briefing was black, mind you, according to him women have a much higher chance of getting a loan approved for business than disabled vets, let alone regular vets. You see...when you say you must employ and equal number of men/women/homosexuals/african americans/etc. you are discrimminating AGAINST whoever the MAJORITY of people in that area are. You do see that right? I say again, i am all for EQUAL RIGHTS. But that means there can be no legislation sactioning or condeming, gays, african americans caucasians, women, etc... The races, nor sexual orientation, or even gender, should be mentioned. Then, society must evolve. I can't force you to think christianity isn't evil. Just like you can't force Fanta to think being gay is genetic. Too bad the government has to get involved because society cannot let go of the ignorancy of discriminating and oppressing a group of people. And it is as it should be until society evolves into enlightenment. Too bad there are people that think that we can only exercise religion in our own homes... This, by definition, is intolerance of all, instead of tolerance of all...IMO BTW do you have control issues? Just wondering.... Too bad there are people who believe that they have to subject all to their religious rites and rituals to be justified in their beliefs which are very personal and private. Control what? Others? I don't think I am the one who needs to be addressed when it comes to unhealthily controlling others, religion seems to be the top of that list. |
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who's enlightenment dragoness???? yours??? mine??? who??? everyone has the right to their beliefs and opinions as long as laws aren't broken. the KKK has a right to believe as they wish even if I disagree with what they believe in. I have a right to believe even if it is something you disagree with If you have reached the enlightenment of human rights being equal across the board in all areas of life and the pursuit of happiness then you don't need to reach enlightenment. Which I think you have already evolved there from your views. Once we reach this enlightmentment we have a full view of what negative emotions, actions, limitations, etc..... about others actually do to us personally and to the environment in which we all have to live together. Enlightenment is not a belief, it is not a point of view. Enlightenment is actually enough information. That is all. This is where you are flat out wrong. We will, and can never be "equal" accross the board. Until we accept that humans, as a race, are completely doomed. This will definitely kill us via genetics (if you believe in evolution). Having equal opportunities is a crucial right. But when one gets smart or lucky, we should not hold this person back for the sack of being equal. There is a difference between freedom and equality in a big picture. |
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1st....public sex is illegal. hand holding, kissing etc doesn't bother me whether it's a straight couple or gay couple. saying religion should be only in the home would should be the same as no gay pride parades etc by that logic. you can't pick and chose
2nd....IMO those that complain that others judge people seem to be wearing the judge's robe fine as well 3rd....how does someone's believe control someone else???? just don't listen to it or debate them...your choice. if someone is preaching something on tv and I don't like it....change the channel 4th....generalizing is wrong IMO because no one knows all of a catagory. |
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who's enlightenment dragoness???? yours??? mine??? who??? everyone has the right to their beliefs and opinions as long as laws aren't broken. the KKK has a right to believe as they wish even if I disagree with what they believe in. I have a right to believe even if it is something you disagree with If you have reached the enlightenment of human rights being equal across the board in all areas of life and the pursuit of happiness then you don't need to reach enlightenment. Which I think you have already evolved there from your views. Once we reach this enlightmentment we have a full view of what negative emotions, actions, limitations, etc..... about others actually do to us personally and to the environment in which we all have to live together. Enlightenment is not a belief, it is not a point of view. Enlightenment is actually enough information. That is all. This is where you are flat out wrong. We will, and can never be "equal" accross the board. Until we accept that humans, as a race, are completely doomed. This will definitely kill us via genetics (if you believe in evolution). Having equal opportunities is a crucial right. But when one gets smart or lucky, we should not hold this person back for the sack of being equal. There is a difference between freedom and equality in a big picture. You lost me......... What you say makes no sense. We make our own limitations and successes but it is also our job to make it as equal as we can to all. It is our human job to care for others when we see injustice to them. Otherwise we are no different than bloodletting animals. |
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I didnt come into this thread to debate homosexual behavior. I think everyone knows my beliefs on that subject. Still I could really careless if they marry or not. I came into this thread to debate the unethical, controversial, reckless, and hypocritical methods used by the GLBT. An organization! I will admit i know nothing about the organization. But what i have seen is affirmative action taken to an extreme where it is easier for a woman or african american to get a business loan than a caucasian man, for instance. In SOME cases things do get pushed a bit too far. I do emphasize SOME. This reminds me of a song by Creed called "One" "Affirmative may be justified take from one give to another The goal is to be unified take my hand be my brother The payment silenced the masses sanctified by oppression Unity took a back seat sliding further into regression Chorus: One oh One the only way is One One oh One the only way is One I feel angry I feel helpless, wanna change the world yeah.. I feel violent I feel alone, don't try and change my mind no.. Society blind by color why hold down one to raise another Discrimination now on both sides seeds of hate blossom further The world is headed for mutiny, when all we want is unity We may rise and fall, but in the end we meet our fate together" I love the general message they were trying to send. I'm all about equal rights. Humans get treated the same professionally and get governed the same. This is also a myth created to continue discrimination and oppression. They make those programs because there are a shortage of those groups in that area. It is an incentive to get more opportunity out there. Until discrimination is obliterated in this country there will be a place for government intervention. And we are nowhere near there. LOL... Ok which part was the myth? I've taken classes with bank owners. This is what they say. My father used to talk with them, this is what they say. THE VA EVEN BRIEFED US ON THISZ!!! The guy briefing was black, mind you, according to him women have a much higher chance of getting a loan approved for business than disabled vets, let alone regular vets. You see...when you say you must employ and equal number of men/women/homosexuals/african americans/etc. you are discrimminating AGAINST whoever the MAJORITY of people in that area are. You do see that right? I say again, i am all for EQUAL RIGHTS. But that means there can be no legislation sactioning or condeming, gays, african americans caucasians, women, etc... The races, nor sexual orientation, or even gender, should be mentioned. Then, society must evolve. I can't force you to think christianity isn't evil. Just like you can't force Fanta to think being gay is genetic. Too bad the government has to get involved because society cannot let go of the ignorancy of discriminating and oppressing a group of people. And it is as it should be until society evolves into enlightenment. Too bad there are people that think that we can only exercise religion in our own homes... This, by definition, is intolerance of all, instead of tolerance of all...IMO BTW do you have control issues? Just wondering.... Too bad there are people who believe that they have to subject all to their religious rites and rituals to be justified in their beliefs which are very personal and private. Control what? Others? I don't think I am the one who needs to be addressed when it comes to unhealthily controlling others, religion seems to be the top of that list. A religion is practiced by choice. Intolerance is also practiced by choice. Respect every religion. Respect all beliefs. This is the tolerance i speak of. I mostly agree on religion being too strict. I was baptised a Roman Catholic. I am not religious though. But I do respect those who use it to better themselves. There is a definite line though. YOu are referring to extremism. This is bad no matter what it is. Even being extremely against the practicing of religion, or being extremely pro-life, or extremely pro gay marriage. We should never take part in prohibiting the free exercise of religion. This i would fight with my life to protect, as i vowed to protect the constitution itself. |
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1st....public sex is illegal. hand holding, kissing etc doesn't bother me whether it's a straight couple or gay couple. saying religion should be only in the home would should be the same as no gay pride parades etc by that logic. you can't pick and chose 2nd....IMO those that complain that others judge people seem to be wearing the judge's robe fine as well 3rd....how does someone's believe control someone else???? just don't listen to it or debate them...your choice. if someone is preaching something on tv and I don't like it....change the channel 4th....generalizing is wrong IMO because no one knows all of a catagory. You rock 
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5th....what happened in history (no matter what it is) is not my fault...i had nothing to do with that
6th...what others do isn't me. i can't control others, only myself. and I am responsible for only my own actions....and I won't sit quiet while digs are taken just as boo didn't either (whether meant as digs or not) and i constantly see digs toward a specific religion alot lately. i haven't oppressed anyone. i have IN FACT said AND defended others rights whether i agree or not with them personally 7th....opinions aren't based on facts...or they would be facts...therefore how can they be wrong? |
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i'm sure there will be an 8th and more to come
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Too bad there are people that think that we can only exercise religion in our own homes... This, by definition, is intolerance of all, instead of tolerance of all...IMO BTW do you have control issues? Just wondering.... Hi Driven, Actually, why not excercise religion in your own home or church, why must it be in public? Do I really want to be tripping over some one meditating in the middle of the airport. Do I want to hear chanting outside my bedroom window, when I am trying to sleep? Are we so obsessed with our religions that we need to practice it everywhere, I wonder? It used to be that your religion was a private matter between you and your god, but it seems we wear it on our sleeves these days. I am glad that for the most part people where I live now are not in your face religious, they believe it's a private matter, and I think that is good thing. I believe it is a private matter as well. Just as our sexuality, we have bedrooms for that, do you really want public sex, I don't... oh wait we have that now too, but I guess I am a bit old fashioned, I don't want to see anyone going at it in the street. Just curious.. It is irresponsible to throw religion around. It is irresponsible to keep preaching when people don't want to listen. But, the first amendment sanctions this. If a kid gets caught praying quietly at a lunch table and get's in trouble for it, that is a breach of constitutional rights. As is the muslim being forbade to pray somewhere out of sight when the time comes to do so. It is illegal to prohibit the free exercise thereof... Remember? There is a balance, but this cannot be forced. See where i am going? How come the muslim was praying out of sight somewhere and all others are rejoicing in the streets???? LOL Keeping it at home is not restricting religion at any level. We have separation of church and state. The public realm is where we respect all. To respect all there can be none. Showing favor to one is showing favoritism. There is one way around that problem when we say we are going to have a public prayer at the football game we would have to take a couple hours and say a prayer in every form of religion available to all humans all over the world because games are televised. If Christians are allowed to publically celebrate they must give every other possible religion a chance to participate in the public event so that ALL are respected. If this cannot be done then we have to go to the opposite. Respecting all then means there can be none, to respect all. |
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who's enlightenment dragoness???? yours??? mine??? who??? everyone has the right to their beliefs and opinions as long as laws aren't broken. the KKK has a right to believe as they wish even if I disagree with what they believe in. I have a right to believe even if it is something you disagree with If you have reached the enlightenment of human rights being equal across the board in all areas of life and the pursuit of happiness then you don't need to reach enlightenment. Which I think you have already evolved there from your views. Once we reach this enlightmentment we have a full view of what negative emotions, actions, limitations, etc..... about others actually do to us personally and to the environment in which we all have to live together. Enlightenment is not a belief, it is not a point of view. Enlightenment is actually enough information. That is all. This is where you are flat out wrong. We will, and can never be "equal" accross the board. Until we accept that humans, as a race, are completely doomed. This will definitely kill us via genetics (if you believe in evolution). Having equal opportunities is a crucial right. But when one gets smart or lucky, we should not hold this person back for the sack of being equal. There is a difference between freedom and equality in a big picture. You lost me......... What you say makes no sense. We make our own limitations and successes but it is also our job to make it as equal as we can to all. It is our human job to care for others when we see injustice to them. Otherwise we are no different than bloodletting animals. You believe in equality over freedom. I believe in freedom over equality. I was talking about a bigger picture of things. We must compete in life. If there is no competition, there is no more evolving. No more evolving = death to us all in the end. If two people get interviewed for a job, and the white male is definitely more qualified for the position than the black male, or female, than that white male should get the job. Even if that means there are more white men employed. Even if no man or woman of a different background are employed. This isn't equality, but it is freedom. And BTW, we are animals whether we like it or not. We cannot escape nature no matter how hard we try, or how much technology we invent. This is a tough and cruel lesson to learn. Genetics. The big picture. Get it? |
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Too bad there are people that think that we can only exercise religion in our own homes... This, by definition, is intolerance of all, instead of tolerance of all...IMO BTW do you have control issues? Just wondering.... Hi Driven, Actually, why not excercise religion in your own home or church, why must it be in public? Do I really want to be tripping over some one meditating in the middle of the airport. Do I want to hear chanting outside my bedroom window, when I am trying to sleep? Are we so obsessed with our religions that we need to practice it everywhere, I wonder? It used to be that your religion was a private matter between you and your god, but it seems we wear it on our sleeves these days. I am glad that for the most part people where I live now are not in your face religious, they believe it's a private matter, and I think that is good thing. I believe it is a private matter as well. Just as our sexuality, we have bedrooms for that, do you really want public sex, I don't... oh wait we have that now too, but I guess I am a bit old fashioned, I don't want to see anyone going at it in the street. Just curious.. It is irresponsible to throw religion around. It is irresponsible to keep preaching when people don't want to listen. But, the first amendment sanctions this. If a kid gets caught praying quietly at a lunch table and get's in trouble for it, that is a breach of constitutional rights. As is the muslim being forbade to pray somewhere out of sight when the time comes to do so. It is illegal to prohibit the free exercise thereof... Remember? There is a balance, but this cannot be forced. See where i am going? Praying quietly at ones desk isn't a problem for me, nor is going somewhere private for Muslims, I though you mean outside my bedroom window.. grin.. Look as I see it if people really want peace, then just do it at home or in church. Don't we have enough anxiety between religions and the sexes etc? For what purpose must a child pray at school unless it's a religious school that forces it or requires it. What, the child can't pray before school? Muslims can't work their five times a day into morning and evening sessions at home or somewhere non public? I think that would be respectful of eachothers space if nothing more. I guess I just don't understand why religion has become such a public affair unless religions are in competition. I understand the free excercise thing, I just don't know why people feel the need to publically display everything... Can't we be free yet respectful of another person's space? Just wondering, not expecting that I am rambling about at this point to mean all that much. |
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Too bad there are people that think that we can only exercise religion in our own homes... This, by definition, is intolerance of all, instead of tolerance of all...IMO BTW do you have control issues? Just wondering.... Hi Driven, Actually, why not excercise religion in your own home or church, why must it be in public? Do I really want to be tripping over some one meditating in the middle of the airport. Do I want to hear chanting outside my bedroom window, when I am trying to sleep? Are we so obsessed with our religions that we need to practice it everywhere, I wonder? It used to be that your religion was a private matter between you and your god, but it seems we wear it on our sleeves these days. I am glad that for the most part people where I live now are not in your face religious, they believe it's a private matter, and I think that is good thing. I believe it is a private matter as well. Just as our sexuality, we have bedrooms for that, do you really want public sex, I don't... oh wait we have that now too, but I guess I am a bit old fashioned, I don't want to see anyone going at it in the street. Just curious.. It is irresponsible to throw religion around. It is irresponsible to keep preaching when people don't want to listen. But, the first amendment sanctions this. If a kid gets caught praying quietly at a lunch table and get's in trouble for it, that is a breach of constitutional rights. As is the muslim being forbade to pray somewhere out of sight when the time comes to do so. It is illegal to prohibit the free exercise thereof... Remember? There is a balance, but this cannot be forced. See where i am going? How come the muslim was praying out of sight somewhere and all others are rejoicing in the streets???? LOL Keeping it at home is not restricting religion at any level. We have separation of church and state. The public realm is where we respect all. To respect all there can be none. Showing favor to one is showing favoritism. There is one way around that problem when we say we are going to have a public prayer at the football game we would have to take a couple hours and say a prayer in every form of religion available to all humans all over the world because games are televised. If Christians are allowed to publically celebrate they must give every other possible religion a chance to participate in the public event so that ALL are respected. If this cannot be done then we have to go to the opposite. Respecting all then means there can be none, to respect all. Why do they have to keep it at home? What is wrong with a child praying in the back of the classroom, or even another room out of sight? If you are against public prayer, than don't participate. "When in Rome", Remember? I am totally for every other religion having the ability to participate. We agree there. But, there is automatically going to be more christian religious traditions than anything else, due to the fact that 60 or 70% of americans are christian. |
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