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Topic: Your child is smoking pot
moonlight_ride62's photo
Thu 06/25/09 05:38 PM








smokin You just found out that your child is smoking pot.smokin




what What do you do?what
Ask him if he wants to give me a joint.
O.K. DEMAND he give me a joint!


im with scorpio. i take it all and tell him that its VERY BAD! and then i disappear with it and go on a bake route with my wife.
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y'all mind if I ride along with ya...

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 06/26/09 12:39 AM



there are many reasons I wouldn't condone it and YES one of them is because it is illegal. that is something people tend to forget and if the child is caught...they parents go down too.


Yep, that's true.


Ditto.

As I have said before, I will agree to disagree with all the people who think that using drugs is okay. It is your choice, and my choice is that it is wrong, for many reasons as I have stated above. ohwell
flowerforyou

dice1989's photo
Fri 06/26/09 12:41 AM
what would i do? take em up to a sky slop and then put a Hersey bar at the end of the run and watch that pot head run :D

Marie55's photo
Fri 06/26/09 01:05 AM
But there is another way to look at it --

What is your 12 or 13 y/o daughter's supplier is a 26 y/o who is supplying her so her can get sex from her??? The police couldn't do anything in the 80s as she refused to testify (and this guy was moving in on a lot of the young girls in town doing this). Had a 15 y/o pregnant wife at home with a baby already.

Also, it can take you down FINANCIALLY - if your kid becomes addicted to drugs and/or alcohol, develops mental health issues because of these substances and needs treatment. This treatment is extremely costly. I lost a house (gave it back to the bank) and went through bankruptcy to pay for 3 hospitalizations in 3 years to try to get her help. CPS did get involved and it is a nightmare to deal with them, you have no clue if you haven't been there. They took child support out of my paycheck for 6 years and my income tax refunds as payback for her being in foster care briefly, but would not go after her dad, convenient, huh?? Missed many, many hours from work to take care of these related requirements for her hospitalizations. Was called home from work by the police to deal with issues. Even better, I worked in the prison system, she would run away and I had to report it, and would get to work, they knew about it before I got there as it had been sent across the teletype system, cool, huh???

When kids start using at a young age, any substance, their brain cells are still developing and it does mess with them and it affects their brain and development.

Anyways, as I said, I will agree to disagree.

I do agree with pot being used for people with chemo, but don't agree with using drugs otherwise, and also don't like alcohol. (Was married to a violent alcoholic, so it has never held much attraction for me either.)

Oh well, my 2 cents anyways.

CKeef's photo
Fri 06/26/09 08:15 AM

But there is another way to look at it --

What is your 12 or 13 y/o daughter's supplier is a 26 y/o who is supplying her so her can get sex from her??? The police couldn't do anything in the 80s as she refused to testify (and this guy was moving in on a lot of the young girls in town doing this). Had a 15 y/o pregnant wife at home with a baby already.

Also, it can take you down FINANCIALLY - if your kid becomes addicted to drugs and/or alcohol, develops mental health issues because of these substances and needs treatment. This treatment is extremely costly. I lost a house (gave it back to the bank) and went through bankruptcy to pay for 3 hospitalizations in 3 years to try to get her help. CPS did get involved and it is a nightmare to deal with them, you have no clue if you haven't been there. They took child support out of my paycheck for 6 years and my income tax refunds as payback for her being in foster care briefly, but would not go after her dad, convenient, huh?? Missed many, many hours from work to take care of these related requirements for her hospitalizations. Was called home from work by the police to deal with issues. Even better, I worked in the prison system, she would run away and I had to report it, and would get to work, they knew about it before I got there as it had been sent across the teletype system, cool, huh???

When kids start using at a young age, any substance, their brain cells are still developing and it does mess with them and it affects their brain and development.

Anyways, as I said, I will agree to disagree.

I do agree with pot being used for people with chemo, but don't agree with using drugs otherwise, and also don't like alcohol. (Was married to a violent alcoholic, so it has never held much attraction for me either.)

Oh well, my 2 cents anyways.


Even a 12 year old had more common sense than to deal with a 26 year old.. and how would she meet him? That would be a really stupid child. And marijuana is not addictive. That aside, yeah it can change the way a person thinks and while i was growing up, it definitely altered my perception and i would not be the way i am now. My belief is it should be legal at 18 like tobacco. I am not very fond of alcohol either for many reasons including violence. Marijuana is a community herb though and chances are they are getting it from people their own age... you'd be surprised how much floats around in the hands of teenagers.

That said, thanks very much for your 2 cents :) it does matter to me to hear the opposition

CKeef's photo
Fri 06/26/09 08:47 AM
Final word for me on this post. And thank you for taking time to review my thoughts.

There are plenty of bad things in the world. Plenty of bad people. Bad things are going to happen. I just dont believe cannibus is one of them. It is not healthy, but not bad.
To not agree is ok, just as some believe in not eating pork, some dont believe in having a car due to environment, some dont believe gay marriage should be allowed. Chances that our children follow our beliefs... well probably likely 50% gets taken in.
As a parent, I believe it is up to me to teach my kid about life as a whole. This will include talking to strangers, partys, substances, as well as the rest of the shabang... look both ways, study hard - play hard, respect and consideration, etc.
The chance your child runs into weed along their teenage years is so incredibly high, it would be much easier to get than cigarettes at that age. It is our duty to not only teach, but also support and nourish that child enough so that when they are confronted, they can say "no, i dont need it." And to me, the only time a substance is needed is because of pain (but even still I hate hard drugs, and i personally dont even take advil. I hate pills). The world is always changing, and kids are participating in what was more mature activities early on including porn and sex (scares me too, tooo young most of the time). I love sex and have never been married but would still try to teach the importance of waiting for the one person of utmost significance. I would try to pursuade my child to not smoke until atleast 16 when they have felt the weight of responsibility and personal decision. No matter what you think about the substance, I do think there are certain ways we need to be for our kids that gives them the strength to face and beat anything, but again we must realize not everything needs beating, and weed is remarkably harmless... its mostly bad people who do the damage and they are growing in number unfortunately.

Please parents, if you listen to anything I say, if you catch your child smoking weed, dont judge them. Dont try to tell them they are running away from their problems or life. Even if you absolutely hate it, respect, patience and understanding is the only way to really show somebody how important THEY are and that you are willing to sacrifice for them, that it is possible for them to rise above and compromise with you in return. Now if your child is caught with anything else.... good luck!

Winx's photo
Fri 06/26/09 09:51 AM


But there is another way to look at it --

What is your 12 or 13 y/o daughter's supplier is a 26 y/o who is supplying her so her can get sex from her??? The police couldn't do anything in the 80s as she refused to testify (and this guy was moving in on a lot of the young girls in town doing this). Had a 15 y/o pregnant wife at home with a baby already.

Also, it can take you down FINANCIALLY - if your kid becomes addicted to drugs and/or alcohol, develops mental health issues because of these substances and needs treatment. This treatment is extremely costly. I lost a house (gave it back to the bank) and went through bankruptcy to pay for 3 hospitalizations in 3 years to try to get her help. CPS did get involved and it is a nightmare to deal with them, you have no clue if you haven't been there. They took child support out of my paycheck for 6 years and my income tax refunds as payback for her being in foster care briefly, but would not go after her dad, convenient, huh?? Missed many, many hours from work to take care of these related requirements for her hospitalizations. Was called home from work by the police to deal with issues. Even better, I worked in the prison system, she would run away and I had to report it, and would get to work, they knew about it before I got there as it had been sent across the teletype system, cool, huh???

When kids start using at a young age, any substance, their brain cells are still developing and it does mess with them and it affects their brain and development.

Anyways, as I said, I will agree to disagree.

I do agree with pot being used for people with chemo, but don't agree with using drugs otherwise, and also don't like alcohol. (Was married to a violent alcoholic, so it has never held much attraction for me either.)

Oh well, my 2 cents anyways.


Even a 12 year old had more common sense than to deal with a 26 year old.. and how would she meet him? That would be a really stupid child. And marijuana is not addictive. That aside, yeah it can change the way a person thinks and while i was growing up, it definitely altered my perception and i would not be the way i am now. My belief is it should be legal at 18 like tobacco. I am not very fond of alcohol either for many reasons including violence. Marijuana is a community herb though and chances are they are getting it from people their own age... you'd be surprised how much floats around in the hands of teenagers.

That said, thanks very much for your 2 cents :) it does matter to me to hear the opposition


Pot can be psychologically addictive. I've seen people in rehab for it. I know somebody that is in his late 40's that has smoked almost daily since high school. He had a major adjustment to go through when he quit.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 06/26/09 12:57 PM

But there is another way to look at it --

What is your 12 or 13 y/o daughter's supplier is a 26 y/o who is supplying her so her can get sex from her??? The police couldn't do anything in the 80s as she refused to testify (and this guy was moving in on a lot of the young girls in town doing this). Had a 15 y/o pregnant wife at home with a baby already.

Also, it can take you down FINANCIALLY - if your kid becomes addicted to drugs and/or alcohol, develops mental health issues because of these substances and needs treatment. This treatment is extremely costly. I lost a house (gave it back to the bank) and went through bankruptcy to pay for 3 hospitalizations in 3 years to try to get her help. CPS did get involved and it is a nightmare to deal with them, you have no clue if you haven't been there. They took child support out of my paycheck for 6 years and my income tax refunds as payback for her being in foster care briefly, but would not go after her dad, convenient, huh?? Missed many, many hours from work to take care of these related requirements for her hospitalizations. Was called home from work by the police to deal with issues. Even better, I worked in the prison system, she would run away and I had to report it, and would get to work, they knew about it before I got there as it had been sent across the teletype system, cool, huh???

When kids start using at a young age, any substance, their brain cells are still developing and it does mess with them and it affects their brain and development.

Anyways, as I said, I will agree to disagree.

I do agree with pot being used for people with chemo, but don't agree with using drugs otherwise, and also don't like alcohol. (Was married to a violent alcoholic, so it has never held much attraction for me either.)

Oh well, my 2 cents anyways.
flowerforyou

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 06/26/09 07:54 PM

Final word for me on this post. And thank you for taking time to review my thoughts.

There are plenty of bad things in the world. Plenty of bad people. Bad things are going to happen. I just dont believe cannibus is one of them. It is not healthy, but not bad.
To not agree is ok, just as some believe in not eating pork, some dont believe in having a car due to environment, some dont believe gay marriage should be allowed. Chances that our children follow our beliefs... well probably likely 50% gets taken in.
As a parent, I believe it is up to me to teach my kid about life as a whole. This will include talking to strangers, partys, substances, as well as the rest of the shabang... look both ways, study hard - play hard, respect and consideration, etc.
The chance your child runs into weed along their teenage years is so incredibly high, it would be much easier to get than cigarettes at that age. It is our duty to not only teach, but also support and nourish that child enough so that when they are confronted, they can say "no, i dont need it." And to me, the only time a substance is needed is because of pain (but even still I hate hard drugs, and i personally dont even take advil. I hate pills). The world is always changing, and kids are participating in what was more mature activities early on including porn and sex (scares me too, tooo young most of the time). I love sex and have never been married but would still try to teach the importance of waiting for the one person of utmost significance. I would try to pursuade my child to not smoke until atleast 16 when they have felt the weight of responsibility and personal decision. No matter what you think about the substance, I do think there are certain ways we need to be for our kids that gives them the strength to face and beat anything, but again we must realize not everything needs beating, and weed is remarkably harmless... its mostly bad people who do the damage and they are growing in number unfortunately.

Please parents, if you listen to anything I say, if you catch your child smoking weed, dont judge them. Dont try to tell them they are running away from their problems or life. Even if you absolutely hate it, respect, patience and understanding is the only way to really show somebody how important THEY are and that you are willing to sacrifice for them, that it is possible for them to rise above and compromise with you in return. Now if your child is caught with anything else.... good luck!
flowerforyou

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 06/26/09 10:47 PM

Final word for me on this post. And thank you for taking time to review my thoughts.

There are plenty of bad things in the world. Plenty of bad people. Bad things are going to happen. I just dont believe cannibus is one of them. It is not healthy, but not bad.
To not agree is ok, just as some believe in not eating pork, some dont believe in having a car due to environment, some dont believe gay marriage should be allowed. Chances that our children follow our beliefs... well probably likely 50% gets taken in.
As a parent, I believe it is up to me to teach my kid about life as a whole. This will include talking to strangers, partys, substances, as well as the rest of the shabang... look both ways, study hard - play hard, respect and consideration, etc.
The chance your child runs into weed along their teenage years is so incredibly high, it would be much easier to get than cigarettes at that age. It is our duty to not only teach, but also support and nourish that child enough so that when they are confronted, they can say "no, i dont need it." And to me, the only time a substance is needed is because of pain (but even still I hate hard drugs, and i personally dont even take advil. I hate pills). The world is always changing, and kids are participating in what was more mature activities early on including porn and sex (scares me too, tooo young most of the time). I love sex and have never been married but would still try to teach the importance of waiting for the one person of utmost significance. I would try to pursuade my child to not smoke until atleast 16 when they have felt the weight of responsibility and personal decision. No matter what you think about the substance, I do think there are certain ways we need to be for our kids that gives them the strength to face and beat anything, but again we must realize not everything needs beating, and weed is remarkably harmless... its mostly bad people who do the damage and they are growing in number unfortunately.

Please parents, if you listen to anything I say, if you catch your child smoking weed, dont judge them. Dont try to tell them they are running away from their problems or life. Even if you absolutely hate it, respect, patience and understanding is the only way to really show somebody how important THEY are and that you are willing to sacrifice for them, that it is possible for them to rise above and compromise with you in return. Now if your child is caught with anything else.... good luck!




great post drinker flowerforyou drinker flowerforyou drinker

Gossipmpm's photo
Sat 06/27/09 04:47 AM
:heart: to you!

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 06/28/09 12:14 PM


Final word for me on this post. And thank you for taking time to review my thoughts.

There are plenty of bad things in the world. Plenty of bad people. Bad things are going to happen. I just dont believe cannibus is one of them. It is not healthy, but not bad.
To not agree is ok, just as some believe in not eating pork, some dont believe in having a car due to environment, some dont believe gay marriage should be allowed. Chances that our children follow our beliefs... well probably likely 50% gets taken in.
As a parent, I believe it is up to me to teach my kid about life as a whole. This will include talking to strangers, partys, substances, as well as the rest of the shabang... look both ways, study hard - play hard, respect and consideration, etc.
The chance your child runs into weed along their teenage years is so incredibly high, it would be much easier to get than cigarettes at that age. It is our duty to not only teach, but also support and nourish that child enough so that when they are confronted, they can say "no, i dont need it." And to me, the only time a substance is needed is because of pain (but even still I hate hard drugs, and i personally dont even take advil. I hate pills). The world is always changing, and kids are participating in what was more mature activities early on including porn and sex (scares me too, tooo young most of the time). I love sex and have never been married but would still try to teach the importance of waiting for the one person of utmost significance. I would try to pursuade my child to not smoke until atleast 16 when they have felt the weight of responsibility and personal decision. No matter what you think about the substance, I do think there are certain ways we need to be for our kids that gives them the strength to face and beat anything, but again we must realize not everything needs beating, and weed is remarkably harmless... its mostly bad people who do the damage and they are growing in number unfortunately.

Please parents, if you listen to anything I say, if you catch your child smoking weed, dont judge them. Dont try to tell them they are running away from their problems or life. Even if you absolutely hate it, respect, patience and understanding is the only way to really show somebody how important THEY are and that you are willing to sacrifice for them, that it is possible for them to rise above and compromise with you in return. Now if your child is caught with anything else.... good luck!




great post drinker flowerforyou drinker flowerforyou drinker
:thumbsup:

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 06/28/09 06:01 PM

:heart: to you!
bigsmile

Marie55's photo
Sun 06/28/09 06:19 PM


But there is another way to look at it --

What is your 12 or 13 y/o daughter's supplier is a 26 y/o who is supplying her so her can get sex from her??? The police couldn't do anything in the 80s as she refused to testify (and this guy was moving in on a lot of the young girls in town doing this). Had a 15 y/o pregnant wife at home with a baby already.

Also, it can take you down FINANCIALLY - if your kid becomes addicted to drugs and/or alcohol, develops mental health issues because of these substances and needs treatment. This treatment is extremely costly. I lost a house (gave it back to the bank) and went through bankruptcy to pay for 3 hospitalizations in 3 years to try to get her help. CPS did get involved and it is a nightmare to deal with them, you have no clue if you haven't been there. They took child support out of my paycheck for 6 years and my income tax refunds as payback for her being in foster care briefly, but would not go after her dad, convenient, huh?? Missed many, many hours from work to take care of these related requirements for her hospitalizations. Was called home from work by the police to deal with issues. Even better, I worked in the prison system, she would run away and I had to report it, and would get to work, they knew about it before I got there as it had been sent across the teletype system, cool, huh???

When kids start using at a young age, any substance, their brain cells are still developing and it does mess with them and it affects their brain and development.

Anyways, as I said, I will agree to disagree.

I do agree with pot being used for people with chemo, but don't agree with using drugs otherwise, and also don't like alcohol. (Was married to a violent alcoholic, so it has never held much attraction for me either.)

Oh well, my 2 cents anyways.


Even a 12 year old had more common sense than to deal with a 26 year old.. and how would she meet him? That would be a really stupid child. And marijuana is not addictive. That aside, yeah it can change the way a person thinks and while i was growing up, it definitely altered my perception and i would not be the way i am now. My belief is it should be legal at 18 like tobacco. I am not very fond of alcohol either for many reasons including violence. Marijuana is a community herb though and chances are they are getting it from people their own age... you'd be surprised how much floats around in the hands of teenagers.

That said, thanks very much for your 2 cents :) it does matter to me to hear the opposition


She was not a "stupid" child, she had mental health issues and a violent alcoholic for a father who was totally absent during her childhood, would promise her the moon and never deliver, did not follow through on visitation, etc., left her crying for weeks over his broken promises. How did she find the 26 y/o??? He found her and her young friends, he was "trolling" for young girls in our small town. He would find them walking home from school or at a store, in their little groups. One night they had a "sleepover" - he had them each tell the other's parents they were sleeping at the other's house - when they really went to a party with him. I blew the lid off it when I called the house she was supposed to be at to talk to her, found out they were "supposed" to be at my house. The other girls dad was driving around all night looking for them, I was out looking, we had the local police looking, etc. He had taken them to another town. He had taken them to a drug dealer's house, showed them where to buy the drugs, how to cut a pop can up to smoke it, etc. As I have said in prior posts, some people can smoke it and it doesn't affect them long term, but there are people with "addictive personalities" and these are the people that it will affect, it will mess up their lives, and I think it is dangerous to have a "cavalier" attitude about drugs with your kids. How do you know that your child will not have a problem with the drugs?? I am talking from experience. Most of the people here have had "so-called good experiences." They are the lucky ones. My experiences with my daughter were not good. Just sharing my side of the story. It isn't always pretty when kids use drugs.

ballpythonbbw's photo
Sun 06/28/09 08:20 PM
it could be way worse. hell i smoke with my grandma. there are people that understand what it does and theyre are people that dont want to understand. its not the worst thing. its a decision in life people make. some people drink kill molest shoot up. all your kid wants to do is chill out and smoke.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 06/28/09 08:25 PM

my problem with some posts in this thread are these:

1. why condone your child to do something illegal and can get in trouble for?

2. why, as parents, would you risk CPS and the law instead of putting your foot down

3. "they could be doing worse" is a lame excuse....yes a lame excuse. they could be doing worse, but could be doing better and as parents it is our responsibility to teach them that.

I have made mistakes in my life and it is my responsibility to teach my child to be better. and from early in life...he was taught that actions have consequences or rewards.




worth repeating IMO

ThomasJB's photo
Sun 06/28/09 09:23 PM


my problem with some posts in this thread are these:

1. why condone your child to do something illegal and can get in trouble for?

2. why, as parents, would you risk CPS and the law instead of putting your foot down

3. "they could be doing worse" is a lame excuse....yes a lame excuse. they could be doing worse, but could be doing better and as parents it is our responsibility to teach them that.

I have made mistakes in my life and it is my responsibility to teach my child to be better. and from early in life...he was taught that actions have consequences or rewards.




worth repeating IMO


I agree with you Rose, especially number 3. This makes no logical sense as there is no end to worse. There can always be something worse. Her child was whoring herself out for drugs, oh well it could be worse. At least she didn't kill anyone. Ted Bundy killed a bunch of people, oh well it could always be worse. At least he didn't blow up a building. etc.

ThomasJB's photo
Sun 06/28/09 09:32 PM
Edited by ThomasJB on Sun 06/28/09 09:33 PM

Marijuana damages DNA at least as much as tobacco and may have a link to lung cancer, according to a study of mothers and their new born infants.

Researchers in America have found that blood from marijauna smokers has nearly three times as many DNA mutations as that of non-smokers.

Marijauna smoke contains many of the carcinogenic chemicals found in cigarette smoke, but, unlike tobacco, has never been linked to the kinds of genetic mutations associated with lung cancer.

But Dr Marinel Ammenheuser and her colleagues at the University of Texas Medical Branch now have evidence that marijauna smoking causes the same kind of damage to DNA as tobacco.
. . .
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/141891.stm


Epigenetic inheritance is the transmission to offspring of parental phenotypic responses to environmental challenges-even when the young do not experience the challenges themselves. Genetic inheritance is not altered, gene expression is. Organismic pathways for such transmission exist.

One example being maternal stress during the latter half of a daughter's gestation may affect not only the daughter's but also grand-offspring's physical growth.

This is a relatively young field of study, but studies have been done that show some effects of smoking on this process.


Two people (for example, identical twins) can have the same genetic makeup yet be very different. Scientists are discovering that these differences are partially attributable to “epigenetic” changes that don’t physically alter a person’s DNA but change how the DNA is activated (or not). As these changes occur in sex cells, they are also propagated to a person’s posterity.

As people go through life, they acquire more and more of these changes, and it varies from person to person depending on lifestyle factors such as diet, smoking, environmental exposures, etc. This may explain why one identical twin gets a heritable form of cancer while the other does not, even though they have exactly the same DNA (and no mutations have occurred).

One key realization is that the way we choose to live can not only impact us negatively (or positively), but it can have a real impact on our [children, grandchildren and further decedents].

no photo
Sun 06/28/09 09:59 PM
i go into his room and find his sack and then i take it because im all out:thumbsup:

Marie55's photo
Sun 06/28/09 10:02 PM

i go into his room and find his sack and then i take it because im all out:thumbsup:


It may be funny to you, you obviously don't have a child that has been involved in drugs and alcohol and messed up their lives.
Hope you are having a good laugh.

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