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Topic: Your child is smoking pot
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Sun 06/28/09 10:04 PM


i go into his room and find his sack and then i take it because im all out:thumbsup:


It may be funny to you, you obviously don't have a child that has been involved in drugs and alcohol and messed up their lives.
Hope you are having a good laugh.


lady i grew up in a crack house.. weed is nothing... in moderation its much safer then even drinking

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Sun 06/28/09 10:06 PM
and i am a new father

Marie55's photo
Sun 06/28/09 10:34 PM
Congratulations on being a new father.
Sorry about where you grew up.

I still say some personalities can't handle it.
I can't tell you how many nights I laid in bed wondering
where my kid was (from the ages of 11-13), she would sneak out
in the middle of the night. I would lay there wondering if she was alive or dead, while she was with older men who gave her drugs and alcohol, and she would be gone for days.

Still will agree to disagree.


geektothetenth's photo
Mon 06/29/09 01:39 PM
Edited by geektothetenth on Mon 06/29/09 01:43 PM
People are going to do what they're going to do. If I had a child I wouldn't want them to smoke pot, I wouldn't lead them into it or buy it for them or smoke with them. But I'm not going to lie to them and tell them it'll make you a junkie. The vast majority of the millions and millions of people who smoke pot are not junkies giving HJs in back corner alleys for a fix.

Every person is different, if someone is allergic to peanuts and will die from anaphylactic shock that doesn't mean we should make it illegal and begin purging the land of peanuts (and peanuts have killed more people than pot has, bees have killed more people than pot..neither are illegal). People get addicted to working out, they get addicted to food, sex, tv, or any number of things. Just because a minority has to avoid something doesn't mean that it should be illegal or that it is immoral.

I just think the war on pot is wasteful, unproductive, and more harmful than the substance itself. If pot were legal and regulated not only would it generate billions in tax revenue, it would free up prison space so violent offenders wouldn't be let out, it would decrease the prison population which would make it safer for both inmates and guards . In addition it would be tax paying law abiding citizens growing and producing the stuff instead of gangbangers, drug cartel goons etc. You remove a major source of income from criminals and their crime empires. And put that income into the economy. Not to mention that hemp, which is actually different from smoked cannibus (the psychoactive stuff is cannibus sativa or cannibus indica, the rope is cannibus ruderalis and contains very little THC) is a very sustainable, easy to grow, and versatile material. Instead of chopping down a tree that takes decades to grow you chop little plants that take a few months to grow.

The reason why youths oftentimes have more access to pot than cigarettes is that a guy selling cigs doesn't want to lose their license so they aren't willing to sell to a kid, pot dealers are not in that position. Some dealers have a conscience and wouldn't deal to kids, but many especially the drive by and pick up a bag type dealers don't care.

Besides, a plant being illegal is just weird to me. I can picture cops running around handcuffing little plants saying "hey, it's illegal for you to exist". it's plant genocide.

It's the prohibition movement all over again, and we've seen what prohibition economics leads to. The criminal bootleggers and their crime bosses didn't all up and decide to stop making money one day, they were forced out by Budweiser and Captain Morgan.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 06/29/09 01:42 PM
part of being a parent means to teach the kids as well. being a discipline robot doesn't work...but being their "buddy" doesn't either. there needs to be a balance. I am a parent first and fore most and I will put my foot down. too many parents these days would rather be buddies with the kids and they forget to be parents

Winx's photo
Mon 06/29/09 01:46 PM



i go into his room and find his sack and then i take it because im all out:thumbsup:


It may be funny to you, you obviously don't have a child that has been involved in drugs and alcohol and messed up their lives.
Hope you are having a good laugh.


lady i grew up in a crack house.. weed is nothing... in moderation its much safer then even drinking


Lady? Her name's Marie.

Winx's photo
Mon 06/29/09 01:47 PM

Congratulations on being a new father.
Sorry about where you grew up.

I still say some personalities can't handle it.
I can't tell you how many nights I laid in bed wondering
where my kid was (from the ages of 11-13), she would sneak out
in the middle of the night. I would lay there wondering if she was alive or dead, while she was with older men who gave her drugs and alcohol, and she would be gone for days.

Still will agree to disagree.




I've been reading about what you've gone through with your daughter. A friend of mine has been through something similar with her daughter.

We were so worried about her. flowerforyou

Marie55's photo
Mon 06/29/09 07:05 PM


Congratulations on being a new father.
Sorry about where you grew up.

I still say some personalities can't handle it.
I can't tell you how many nights I laid in bed wondering
where my kid was (from the ages of 11-13), she would sneak out
in the middle of the night. I would lay there wondering if she was alive or dead, while she was with older men who gave her drugs and alcohol, and she would be gone for days.

Still will agree to disagree.




I've been reading about what you've gone through with your daughter. A friend of mine has been through something similar with her daughter.

We were so worried about her. flowerforyou


Thanks Winx. flowerforyou
People who haven't been there, have no clue what it is like.
Appreciate your support and understanding. Take care. flowerforyou

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 06/29/09 10:13 PM


Congratulations on being a new father.
Sorry about where you grew up.

I still say some personalities can't handle it.
I can't tell you how many nights I laid in bed wondering
where my kid was (from the ages of 11-13), she would sneak out
in the middle of the night. I would lay there wondering if she was alive or dead, while she was with older men who gave her drugs and alcohol, and she would be gone for days.

Still will agree to disagree.




I've been reading about what you've gone through with your daughter. A friend of mine has been through something similar with her daughter.

We were so worried about her. flowerforyou
flowers

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 06/30/09 01:23 AM



Congratulations on being a new father.
Sorry about where you grew up.

I still say some personalities can't handle it.
I can't tell you how many nights I laid in bed wondering
where my kid was (from the ages of 11-13), she would sneak out
in the middle of the night. I would lay there wondering if she was alive or dead, while she was with older men who gave her drugs and alcohol, and she would be gone for days.

Still will agree to disagree.




I've been reading about what you've gone through with your daughter. A friend of mine has been through something similar with her daughter.

We were so worried about her. flowerforyou


Thanks Winx. flowerforyou
People who haven't been there, have no clue what it is like.
Appreciate your support and understanding. Take care. flowerforyou
flowers

Marie55's photo
Tue 06/30/09 01:44 AM




Congratulations on being a new father.
Sorry about where you grew up.

I still say some personalities can't handle it.
I can't tell you how many nights I laid in bed wondering
where my kid was (from the ages of 11-13), she would sneak out
in the middle of the night. I would lay there wondering if she was alive or dead, while she was with older men who gave her drugs and alcohol, and she would be gone for days.

Still will agree to disagree.




I've been reading about what you've gone through with your daughter. A friend of mine has been through something similar with her daughter.

We were so worried about her. flowerforyou


Thanks Winx. flowerforyou
People who haven't been there, have no clue what it is like.
Appreciate your support and understanding. Take care. flowerforyou
flowers


Thanks Mirror - flowerforyou flowerforyou

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 06/30/09 06:23 AM

People are going to do what they're going to do. If I had a child I wouldn't want them to smoke pot, I wouldn't lead them into it or buy it for them or smoke with them. But I'm not going to lie to them and tell them it'll make you a junkie. The vast majority of the millions and millions of people who smoke pot are not junkies giving HJs in back corner alleys for a fix.

Every person is different, if someone is allergic to peanuts and will die from anaphylactic shock that doesn't mean we should make it illegal and begin purging the land of peanuts (and peanuts have killed more people than pot has, bees have killed more people than pot..neither are illegal). People get addicted to working out, they get addicted to food, sex, tv, or any number of things. Just because a minority has to avoid something doesn't mean that it should be illegal or that it is immoral.

I just think the war on pot is wasteful, unproductive, and more harmful than the substance itself. If pot were legal and regulated not only would it generate billions in tax revenue, it would free up prison space so violent offenders wouldn't be let out, it would decrease the prison population which would make it safer for both inmates and guards . In addition it would be tax paying law abiding citizens growing and producing the stuff instead of gangbangers, drug cartel goons etc. You remove a major source of income from criminals and their crime empires. And put that income into the economy. Not to mention that hemp, which is actually different from smoked cannibus (the psychoactive stuff is cannibus sativa or cannibus indica, the rope is cannibus ruderalis and contains very little THC) is a very sustainable, easy to grow, and versatile material. Instead of chopping down a tree that takes decades to grow you chop little plants that take a few months to grow.

The reason why youths oftentimes have more access to pot than cigarettes is that a guy selling cigs doesn't want to lose their license so they aren't willing to sell to a kid, pot dealers are not in that position. Some dealers have a conscience and wouldn't deal to kids, but many especially the drive by and pick up a bag type dealers don't care.

Besides, a plant being illegal is just weird to me. I can picture cops running around handcuffing little plants saying "hey, it's illegal for you to exist". it's plant genocide.

It's the prohibition movement all over again, and we've seen what prohibition economics leads to. The criminal bootleggers and their crime bosses didn't all up and decide to stop making money one day, they were forced out by Budweiser and Captain Morgan.


Very well put.

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 07/02/09 11:33 AM





Congratulations on being a new father.
Sorry about where you grew up.

I still say some personalities can't handle it.
I can't tell you how many nights I laid in bed wondering
where my kid was (from the ages of 11-13), she would sneak out
in the middle of the night. I would lay there wondering if she was alive or dead, while she was with older men who gave her drugs and alcohol, and she would be gone for days.

Still will agree to disagree.




I've been reading about what you've gone through with your daughter. A friend of mine has been through something similar with her daughter.

We were so worried about her. flowerforyou


Thanks Winx. flowerforyou
People who haven't been there, have no clue what it is like.
Appreciate your support and understanding. Take care. flowerforyou
flowers


Thanks Mirror - flowerforyou flowerforyou


bigsmile Yer welcomebigsmile

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 07/02/09 05:10 PM



i go into his room and find his sack and then i take it because im all out:thumbsup:


It may be funny to you, you obviously don't have a child that has been involved in drugs and alcohol and messed up their lives.
Hope you are having a good laugh.


lady i grew up in a crack house.. weed is nothing... in moderation its much safer then even drinking
surprised

Rapunzel's photo
Thu 07/02/09 05:34 PM




i go into his room and find his sack and then i take it because im all out:thumbsup:


It may be funny to you, you obviously don't have a child that has been involved in drugs and alcohol and messed up their lives.
Hope you are having a good laugh.


lady i grew up in a crack house.. weed is nothing... in moderation its much safer then even drinking


Lady? Her name's Marie.



huh



flowerforyou Lady is a term of respect flowerforyou


there's nothing wrong noway with calling a lady

drinker <<< Lady >>> drinker









Rapunzel's photo
Thu 07/02/09 05:36 PM



i go into his room and find his sack and then i take it because im all out:thumbsup:


It may be funny to you, you obviously don't have a child that has been involved in drugs and alcohol and messed up their lives.
Hope you are having a good laugh.


lady i grew up in a crack house.. weed is nothing... in moderation its much safer then even drinking




absolutely :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


weed is nothing noway in comparison to crack & alcohol ill


flowers I'm glad you have been delivered from the crack house though flowers

Rapunzel's photo
Thu 07/02/09 05:38 PM

and i am a new father




drinker drinker drinker congratulations bigsmile Honey...drinker drinker drinker


:heart: and i am sure you will be the best Father possible :heart:

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 07/04/09 03:57 PM





i go into his room and find his sack and then i take it because im all out:thumbsup:


It may be funny to you, you obviously don't have a child that has been involved in drugs and alcohol and messed up their lives.
Hope you are having a good laugh.


lady i grew up in a crack house.. weed is nothing... in moderation its much safer then even drinking


Lady? Her name's Marie.



huh



flowerforyou Lady is a term of respect flowerforyou


there's nothing wrong noway with calling a lady

drinker <<< Lady >>> drinker









flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou

Marie55's photo
Sat 07/04/09 07:27 PM
We recently, a couple of months ago, had an older couple (ouch, think they were my age) murdered in a neighboring town. They caught the guy who did it, a repeat offender of course. He was caught because he used their debit card to take $300 out of their bank account -- he needed the money to buy DRUGS!!! Guess their lives weren't worth more than $300 worth of drugs. These people were highly respected in the community, she was a bookkeeper at a local trucking company and he ran the family farm, they raised and sold beef, etc.

They were a mom & dad, grandma and grandpa. Murdered for $300 in drugs. The guy who did it had repeat offenses for drug crimes.

I just don't get the "drugs are good" attitude people have, when people are murdered every day because of them. Mothers are in prison because of them, they give up the rights to their kids into overburdened foster care systems, pretty much destroying their kids lives.

Again, I will "agree to disagree." I don't like drugs and never will.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 07/04/09 11:14 PM

We recently, a couple of months ago, had an older couple (ouch, think they were my age) murdered in a neighboring town. They caught the guy who did it, a repeat offender of course. He was caught because he used their debit card to take $300 out of their bank account -- he needed the money to buy DRUGS!!! Guess their lives weren't worth more than $300 worth of drugs. These people were highly respected in the community, she was a bookkeeper at a local trucking company and he ran the family farm, they raised and sold beef, etc.

They were a mom & dad, grandma and grandpa. Murdered for $300 in drugs. The guy who did it had repeat offenses for drug crimes.

I just don't get the "drugs are good" attitude people have, when people are murdered every day because of them. Mothers are in prison because of them, they give up the rights to their kids into overburdened foster care systems, pretty much destroying their kids lives.

Again, I will "agree to disagree." I don't like drugs and never will.






flowerforyou

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