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Topic: Does God love sinners?
arkdanimal's photo
Tue 09/30/08 02:53 AM
I think God loves all of us! He just hates the evil acts!

Milesoftheusa's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:22 AM
He does not wish anyone to perish. Give to the stranger and live like Yahshua. You never know when you may be in the company of Angels. To the homeless remember Yahshua said the birds of the air have nests but the sone of man has nowhare to lay his head.. Blessings of Shalom...Miles

Quikstepper's photo
Wed 10/01/08 03:32 PM
God loves all...it's His wish that none should perish ....

Dan99's photo
Wed 10/01/08 03:35 PM
Yep he loves all of us, that why he will send all of us non christians to burn in hell...

speechless1985's photo
Wed 10/01/08 05:19 PM
he loves us all the same. its weather or not we love him enough to follow Him no matter what may come.

God does not wish us to Hell it is our choice and acts that we as humans do that control where we go.

Dan99's photo
Wed 10/01/08 05:29 PM
But if we dont love him enough we will burn in hell.

If he loved us he would let good people of any/no religion into heaven anyway wouldnt he?

Worship me and i will save you, otherwise you will burn...What a NICE fella this God person is.

He can love me for who i am or he can go f*ck himself.

guitaedreams's photo
Wed 10/01/08 06:17 PM

I think God loves all of us! He just hates the evil acts!


actually if you've studiesd the bible you would realize that God can hate individuals.

guitaedreams's photo
Wed 10/01/08 06:25 PM

But if we dont love him enough we will burn in hell.

If he loved us he would let good people of any/no religion into heaven anyway wouldnt he?

Worship me and i will save you, otherwise you will burn...What a NICE fella this God person is.

He can love me for who i am or he can go f*ck himself.


God is having a bbq party soon, and you and i are the entre

guitaedreams's photo
Wed 10/01/08 06:29 PM
its sad that most people are drones who have these preconcieved notions that what are supposed fit into society . think for yourselves you zombies!

no photo
Wed 10/01/08 06:38 PM
He must...cause He sure loves me...

and YOU ^^^ ....

and YOU <<<<< ....

and YOU >>>>>> ....

and YOU *points downward*....

...this I "know"...cause the "Bible" tells me so...

right? ohwell

NoJoke116's photo
Wed 10/01/08 06:56 PM
i just love how rebellious people feel they are being rebellious when they are just following everyone else down the selfish path. give that thanks to the Lord for giving you free thought. i'm a rebel in that i fight for the Lord, which is against so much of what is societies norm. what's normal to God is rebellious in societies eyes, because i actually believe in something outside of myself. i'm sorry some people feel it is just a big joke. again, if i'm wrong, i live a good life and try to help others, then die. i will not judge them because i fear being judged by the true authority, so i say it's your choice to help or hurt. but if you are wrong, you spend an eternity away from the creator, and probably cause strife and pain in so many others lives while you are here. i hope that makes you happy when you look in the mirror. may God save us all, for i don't see us doing it alone......

guitaedreams's photo
Wed 10/01/08 07:02 PM

i just love how rebellious people feel they are being rebellious when they are just following everyone else down the selfish path. give that thanks to the Lord for giving you free thought. i'm a rebel in that i fight for the Lord, which is against so much of what is societies norm. what's normal to God is rebellious in societies eyes, because i actually believe in something outside of myself. i'm sorry some people feel it is just a big joke. again, if i'm wrong, i live a good life and try to help others, then die. i will not judge them because i fear being judged by the true authority, so i say it's your choice to help or hurt. but if you are wrong, you spend an eternity away from the creator, and probably cause strife and pain in so many others lives while you are here. i hope that makes you happy when you look in the mirror. may God save us all, for i don't see us doing it alone......

lol "eternity away from the creator " is a polite way of saying "you will burn and scream in agony or all eternity"

NoJoke116's photo
Wed 10/01/08 07:24 PM
i don't pretend to know what comes next, i just believe something comes, and an eternity away from our creator is what i believe....throughout the ages, Hell, the word, has gone through so many changes and meanings, with the Greeks who thought of Hades, all the way to now, where some people would interpret its original meaning as coldness, not fire and brimstone. my saying is that you will spend an eternity away from the closeness of God, whatever you choose to interpret it as is your own interpretation.

guitaedreams's photo
Wed 10/01/08 07:29 PM

i don't pretend to know what comes next, i just believe something comes, and an eternity away from our creator is what i believe....throughout the ages, Hell, the word, has gone through so many changes and meanings, with the Greeks who thought of Hades, all the way to now, where some people would interpret its original meaning as coldness, not fire and brimstone. my saying is that you will spend an eternity away from the closeness of God, whatever you choose to interpret it as is your own interpretation.

keep this in your mind if you ever read the bible: hell was never mentioned in the old testament, it was called sheol, which simply meant the grave/dead. king james just converted sheol" into "hell" just so it will fit along withthe new testament.and "hell" in the new testament came from the word gehenna, which as a city dump that was always being consumed by flame to prevent the spread of diseases

Thomas27's photo
Wed 10/01/08 07:31 PM
This is the day that the Lord hath made, rejoice and be glad in it!

NoJoke116's photo
Wed 10/01/08 07:35 PM


i don't pretend to know what comes next, i just believe something comes, and an eternity away from our creator is what i believe....throughout the ages, Hell, the word, has gone through so many changes and meanings, with the Greeks who thought of Hades, all the way to now, where some people would interpret its original meaning as coldness, not fire and brimstone. my saying is that you will spend an eternity away from the closeness of God, whatever you choose to interpret it as is your own interpretation.

keep this in your mind if you ever read the bible: hell was never mentioned in the old testament, it was called sheol, which simply meant the grave/dead. king james just converted sheol" into "hell" just so it will fit along withthe new testament.and "hell" in the new testament came from the word gehenna, which as a city dump that was always being consumed by flame to prevent the spread of diseases



i don't know how to do the blue box quote thing, i hope this is right. i agree with what you said, and that follows with how i believe. and currently i am in deuteronomy, don't believe i have got there yet. give me time, i'm new at this. i believe that after the death of our bodies, that if you die without Christ in your heart, you are then left alone. as i mentioned, i don't presume to know what it is like. but i believe you are alone, without Gods love. so yea, like being buried in a grave, all alone. and if you accept him, you will be with him, and he with you (since he doesn't need us, we need him), and you will never be alone again.....

splendidlife's photo
Fri 10/03/08 08:06 AM
Edited by splendidlife on Fri 10/03/08 08:07 AM


he loves us all the same. its weather or not we love him enough to follow Him no matter what may come.

God does not wish us to Hell it is our choice and acts that we as humans do that control where we go.





But if we dont love him enough we will burn in hell.

If he loved us he would let good people of any/no religion into heaven anyway wouldnt he?

Worship me and i will save you, otherwise you will burn...What a NICE fella this God person is.

He can love me for who i am or he can go f*ck himself.



I think god is just fine with us not loving "him". It's totally human to have a full range of emotions. This is how a human relationship thrives... by it being okay to feel all... not JUST love.

There's a really high rate of divorce, right?

Why?

Perhaps its because we can't come to grips with the full range of emotions we naturally feel... because it wouldn't be "okay". We're so damned conditioned to believe that the only way to happiness and salvation is to lean to the side of good that we throw ourselves off balance and create the total opposite.

If god created us to have the capacity to feel a full range of emotions, wouldn't it make sense that we were always free to feel them all without fear of frying in hell? If not, then it makes total sense that society as a whole has been so repressed.

feralcatlady's photo
Fri 10/03/08 08:10 AM
Love the sinner hate the sin.

splendidlife's photo
Fri 10/03/08 08:15 AM

Love the sinner hate the sin.


Isn't this assigning a limited human emotion to an infinite intelligence?

feralcatlady's photo
Fri 10/03/08 08:18 AM


I think God loves all of us! He just hates the evil acts!


actually if you've studiesd the bible you would realize that God can hate individuals.



Does God hate anyone?

Does God hate anyone? The answer is yes.


Psalm 5:5, "The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity,"

Psalm 11:5, "The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, and the one who loves violence His soul hates."

Lev. 20:23, "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them."

Prov. 6:16-19, "There are six things which the Lord hates, yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that run rapidly to evil,

19 A false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers."

Hosea 9:15, "All their evil is at Gilgal; indeed, I came to hate them there! Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of My house! I will love them no more; All their princes are rebels."

Are these verses hard to read? Do they make you feel uncomfortable? They should. God hates sin. But, He does not punish sin. He punishes the sinner. Sin cannot be tied up and thrown into a fire. It cannot be put in a box or glued to a stick. It is rebellion. It is rebellion in the heart. It is breaking God's Law. Sin occurs inside the heart and mind of people. Therefore, God must punish the sinner. Why? Because He is both Holy and Just and the person who sins offends God. God's Holy and Just character will not allow Him to ignore this offense. Why?....

God's Law is Perfect

When God said, "Let there be light," it happened. When He commanded that the oceans be, they came into existence. God's word is powerful. What He says is never futile, empty, or without power.

The Law is a reflection of God's character. It is pure and perfect. It is powerful. The Ten Commandments reflect God's holiness and justice. These commandments are not without punishments. A law without consequences is only an empty slogan.

To sin is to break God's Law and offend His character. To sin means to challenge His character and authority. It means you go against His word. But God is not a liar. His word is true. He has said He will punish the lawbreaker.

But, praise be to God, that while we were yet sinners, Jesus died for us (Rom. 5:6). There is no way we can appease God. That is why God became one of us (John 1:1,14; Heb. 2:17), to take our place and become sin on our behalf (2 Cor. 5:21). Therefore, people have two options:

1.

Trust Jesus, God in flesh, as your savior and put your faith in the sacrifice that He made on the cross and in nothing you do.
2.

Reject the cross and let the penalty of the Law fall upon you.

Either God pays, or you do -- forever. Which will it be?

"For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins," (Heb. 10:26). If there is no sacrifice available for you, then God's wrath abides upon you because He hates sin and your sin is not removed (John 3:36). Trust Jesus alone or the wrath of God will abide upon you forever.

The sobering fact is that God is so holy and righteous that He hates the sinner (Psalm 5:5; Lev. 20:23; Prov. 6:16-19; Hos. 9:15). But it is also true that He is love (1 John 4:8). It is better to accept the love of God found in Jesus than to reject it and suffer His wrath.

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