Were you thinking of Buddha?

Confucius is a god, and don't you dare make fun of him. And no, he is not Buddha.

No fun/pun intended my friend - but all that i know is he is/was concidered a philospher, i did not know he was concidered a god? can you direct me to your sources for that please?

Mellow out. I asked you to clarify if you meant Buddha because Confucius is not a god. He was a human and philosopher.

He has a book, and i pray to him, need more?

So if someone writes a book and designs their own philosophy, they are capable of attaining "god status"? Yes please direct us to the website that indicates he is a god or clearly defines him as such. I am curious in seeing that as well.

Yes, i would need much more than that. Complete idiots have written books before, and i could choose to pray to a table leg if i wanted to.

yep

Alrighty then. I just glanced at your profile and well, okay. Have fun with that. I personally still consider him a philosopher and not a god but that is my opinion of him. I was hoping for some validation or evidence other than a "yes". No such luck.

Humm

Well, we got our own temples.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Confucius

The han dynasty actually sacrificed stuff too him.

http://www.sacu.org/religion.html

Well we got temples, prayer, sacrifice, a holy book...

Sure seems like a religion to me...

I didn't ask you if it was a religion. I asked if Confucius was considered a god.

Confucianism is an ancient Chinese ethical and philosophical system originally developed from the teachings of the early Chinese philosopher Confucius. It focuses on human morality and good deeds. Confucianism is a complex system of moral, social, political, philosophical, and quasi-religious thought that has had tremendous influence on the culture and history of East Asia. Some consider it to be the state religion of East Asian countries because of governmental promotion of Confucian values.

The question is not whether or not it is considered a religion, but if Confucius is defined as a "God". Thats what we were asking.

And this taken from your own website:

Confucius (Kong Zi) lived from 551 to 479 BC in the state of Lu (in modem Shandong province). He came from a family of officials and his concern was with the restoration of the Way (Dao) of the ancient sages. His teaching was therefore related mainly to society and its government. He advocated strict conformity, and thought that fostering correct behaviour, within the context of the family, would produce an ordered society. He was not particularly interested in religion, except insofar as it related to social life.

However, in 59 AD during the Han dynasty, it was decreed that sacrifice should be made to Confucius and this began a process which was to make Confucian philosophy into the foundation of the Chinese political order. Confucius himself had only accepted the legitimacy of sacrifice to one's own ancestors, but from now on an official Confucian cult emerged, with its own temples. It gradually became linked with the state cult of the Emperor.

From the fifth century AD Confucian orthodoxy retreated before the popularity of Buddhism and Daoism. But a renaissance came during the Song dynasty when Confucianism responded to the challenge and developed its own metaphysics. This new trend is known as Neo-confucianism, and its main exponent was Zhu Xi (1130-1200). It subsequently became the main orthodoxy of the scholar officials until the demise of the imperial system in 1912.

In contemporary China, the Confucian cult has disappeared, but the Confucian approach to government and society retains a powerful hold on many people.

That site does not speak for me nor the Confucian religion, you just wanted examples.


At any rate,


Define god

Well go ahead and find a website that you feel comfortably espouses your understanding of who Confucius was exactly or what encompasses your personal belief of him. I just copied and pasted my definition of who he was from the website that you provided. He was a human philosopher.

Hummm...

You didn't define god...

Here. let me ;)

This is merriam-webster



Disprove him on 1a, 1b, 2, 3, and 4, and i will admit that he is not a god.

(this should be interesting)

Not really, she cant disprove him under every definition of god.

And if she tries I'll devastate her.

Well lets see. He is not worshiped as creator and ruler of the universe.

I did not see on any of the web sites you provided where he was considered the principle ruling over all as eternal spirit or infinite mind

He is not defined as a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship, specifically one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality

He might have been considered a person or thing of supreme value to some people but so would any philosopher. That does not elevate him to the status of god that I am familiar with.

I dont think you could clearly define him as a powerful ruler though he did have state backing.(and funding presumably)

Nope, sorry, he's still a human philosopher unless you want to redefine god as a human with substantial government influence?

Important: This new trend is known as Neo-confucianism, and its main exponent was Zhu Xi (1130-1200). It subsequently became the main orthodoxy of the scholar officials until the demise of the imperial system in 1912.

I dont have to do that. The burden of proof is on you to prove to me he is a god!

He is by me, my very existence disproves your point.



Once more, he is by me, if you really need a website to tell you what i believe, then i could update my blog for you.


I am prepared to define him as such.



Apparently you are not familiar with any definition of god, you would not give a definition, so i did, and now you criticize the definition i gave?



He's spirit still rules over much of Asia...

Wanna fight about it?