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Topic: Does God love sinners?
davidben1's photo
Mon 10/13/08 10:03 AM


Maybe if everyone dies there will be no more evil!


Man in his own wisdom will do just that.


self righteoussness will always try, but shall never succeed.......

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 10/13/08 10:05 AM

love? anybody who has love in their heart will be the first to open their mind to a better way!


This is very true. It's how I came to paganism. flowerforyou

tribo's photo
Mon 10/13/08 10:27 AM


To be willing to allow God to be the almighty, instead of some half there half not fence rider!


How do you...

a mere mortal man...

profess to know who is "there" and who is "half there"?

What makes you think you have the inside track to God almighty?

Where is your proof that you got it right and the rest of us heathens got zilch?

You keep stirring the pot with comments that beg to be countered.

Loneliness is a *****, but I guess negative attention is better than none.



I'll take either if it's from you - bigsmile flowerforyou

tribo's photo
Mon 10/13/08 10:32 AM
Edited by tribo on Mon 10/13/08 10:36 AM
try reading my post:

Christian Topography

maybe you will learn from past mistakes, as they say - those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it!!

davidben1's photo
Mon 10/13/08 10:33 AM
it seems jesus made PLAIN what was of the manifestation of the mark of hatred, when calling out holy leaders in his day, who KILLED HIM........

the scribes and the pharisees that followed every JOT AND TITTLE OF THE HOLY TEXT, but did so thinking it made them BETTER, lol......

A FULL DOSE OF A HOLY SPIRIT INDEED.........

Krimsa's photo
Mon 10/13/08 10:59 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Mon 10/13/08 11:20 AM
I'd watch out for those Holy Spirits. They tend to go around knocking up unsuspecting females evidently. Unless the Christian theologians translating this stuff simply confused the term "alma" to mean virgin when it in fact actually denotes "young woman."

Jesus' pop was probably a Roman centurion.....get over it. happy

Lord_Psycho's photo
Mon 10/13/08 11:01 AM
of course he loves his sinners he told me that while I was makin love with Jesus!!!

splendidlife's photo
Mon 10/13/08 11:28 AM



To be willing to allow God to be the almighty, instead of some half there half not fence rider!


How do you...

a mere mortal man...

profess to know who is "there" and who is "half there"?

What makes you think you have the inside track to God almighty?

Where is your proof that you got it right and the rest of us heathens got zilch?

You keep stirring the pot with comments that beg to be countered.

Loneliness is a *****, but I guess negative attention is better than none.



I'll take either if it's from you - bigsmile flowerforyou


"Not until you've had your fruit cup!"

-Cloris Leachman

High Anxiety, 1977, Mel Brooks

Milesoftheusa's photo
Mon 10/13/08 11:41 AM
Ps 51:10-17

10 Create in me a clean heart, O Elohim,
And renew a steadfast spirit within me.
11 Do not cast me away from Your presence,
And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me.

12 Restore to me the joy of Your salvation,
And uphold me by Your generous Spirit.
13 Then I will teach transgressors Your ways,
And sinners shall be converted to You.

14 Deliver me from the guilt of bloodshed, O Elohim,
The EL of my salvation,
And my tongue shall sing aloud of Your righteousness.
15 Yahweh, open my lips,
And my mouth shall show forth Your praise.
16 For You do not desire sacrifice, or else I would give it;
You do not delight in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of Elohim are a broken spirit,
A broken and a contrite heart —
These, O Elohim, You will not despise.
NKJV
He says it all.. Blessings of Shalom..Miles

Mrtap's photo
Mon 10/13/08 11:42 AM
He better if he wants to meet me.drinker drinker drinks drinks

no photo
Tue 10/14/08 09:38 AM
he loves me and Iv'e done it all. even shot a dude. blew his head almost off

Krimsa's photo
Wed 10/15/08 04:22 AM
I found this is in Leviticus last night. I dont simply harp on Leviticus. It just so happens there is a preponderance of injustices and brutality located there in.

27:3 And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary.

27:4 And if it be a female, then thy estimation shall be thirty shekels.

27:5 And if it be from five years old even unto twenty years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male twenty shekels, and for the female ten shekels.

27:6 And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver.

27:7 And if it be from sixty years old and above; if it be a male, then thy estimation shall be fifteen shekels, and for the female ten shekels.



God defines the value of human life in dollars and cents. Of course, to God, females are worth considerably less than males (50 - 60%) less on average but neither are worth much to be fair.

Males (20 - 60 years old) are worth 50 shekels.
Females are worth 30.

Males (5 - 20 years old) are worth 20 shekels.
Females are worth 10.

Males (under 5 years old) are worth 5 shekels.
Females are worth 3.

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