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Wed 03/18/09 03:25 PM
Yahweh clearly judged the Occult Culture of Egypt during the Exodus. Nothing whatsoever of their CULTure would have anything to do with Yashua's ministry. Reading signs in a bowl of oil? No. This is the history of the anointing oil in scripture.
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Jesus' name means "the Anointed". This is a study guide to help further understand the significance of the olive oil as a Christian.


Holy Anointing Oil


And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, This shall be an holy anointing oil unto me throughout your generations. Exodus 30:31



Olive oil in God's Word was used for:


An olive leaf was first carried by the dove to the ark
Olive oil was used to anoint for healing
Olive oil was used to anoint spiritual leaders, priests
Olive oil was used to represent prosperity
Olive oil was used to anoint the rock Jacob slept upon in which the Lord blessed his seed
Olive oil was used to light the tabernacle
Olive oil was used to represent adoration, dedication to the Lord
Olive oil was used as a symbol of the Christian people
Christ's name means "Christos" or "the anointed"
Olive oil is the truth in the lamps of the 10 virgins in that last hour
At the last trump, when Christ returns his feet will touch the mount of Olives



As we know 'anoint' means:

mashach ^4886^, "to smear with oil or paint, anoint." This verb, which appears 69 times in biblical Hebrew, has cognates in Ugaritic, Akkadian, Aramaic, and Arabic. The objects of this verb are people, sacrificial victims, and objects of worship. Aaron and his sons are the objects of this verb in Exodus. 30:30

Jesus is the anointed one:

Acts 10:38

38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Here is the verse Exodus 30:30 with some translation:

And thou shalt anoint (4886 mashach (maw-shakh'); a primitive root; to rub with oil, i.e. to anoint; by implication, to consecrate; also to paint: KJV-- anoint, paint.)

Aaron (75 'Aharown (a-har-one'); of uncertain derivation; Aharon, the brother of Moses: KJV-- Aaron.

and his sons, (121 ben (bane); from 1129; a son (as a builder of the family name), in the widest sense )

and consecrate ( 6942 qadash (kaw-dash'); a primitive root; to be (causatively, make, pronounce or observe as) clean (ceremonially or morally): sanctify)

them, that they may minister unto me in the priest's office. (3547 kahan (kaw-han'); a primitive root, apparently meaning to mediate in religious services; to officiate as a priest; figuratively, to put on regalia)

This olive oil mentioned above was used for use in the anointing of the tabernacle, the alter, the ark of the covenant, the candlesticks, the congregation (appointed feasts), and as it mentioned above in the commentary 'Aaron and his sons' as the priesthood to be carried through the generations making them 'most holy' and this 'holy anointing oil'.


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Wed 03/18/09 03:08 PM
Very interesting. Was not aware of some of this history. I did know that the Magi were more likely priests. Interesting that a place of captivity would become a place of refuge.

I still contend that the lost 10 tribes would be a pretty sizeable # of people, and not likely to be found all in one spot. They would be spread over a wide area. Zebuluns flag symbol is even a ship isn't it? Would indicate they were a seafaring people and who knows where all they ended up?

Have you ever heard of this author? This is where I'm getting most of my info. Good website: www.biblestudysite.com

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BOOKS BY E. RAYMOND CAPT
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E. Raymond Capt (M.A., A.I.A., F.S.A. Scot.) was a Biblical Archaeologist and his many works support the great historical truths contained within the Bible. He gives much technical information in an easy to understand format for the layman. It is refreshing to see science and archaeology studied and presented by a Christian scholar as opposed to the heathen that are so very prevalent in the field now.



The Abrahamic Covenant (Highly Recommended!) by E. Raymond Capt. An Interesting historical evidence tied in with Biblical prophecy regarding God's covenant people. Follows the migrations of the Ten 'Lost' Tribes of Israel. We can only find this book at (The Shepherds Chapel) Book store

Study in Pyramidology: Another extensive work by E. Raymond Capt covering the spiritual aspects and prophecy revealed in the construction of the great Pyramid at Giza. Covers God's plan for humanity architecturally embodied in it's construction. (Approx. $15)

Great Pyramid Decoded: This is a fascinating book which details very specific weight, volume, mass, perimeter, and interior measurements of the great pyramid in relation to the earth, solar system, stars, and events in time. (Approx. $8-$9)

Lost Chapter of Acts of the Apostles: You will notice that the end of the book of Acts does not end with "Amen" in your Bible. Learn of the missing 29th chapter that was discovered in the Sonnini manuscript. It has 26 verse and ends in "Amen." It speaks of Paul's travels and the final history of Pontius Pilate. Does the 29th chapter belong in Act's? You decide for yourself. As with all writings outside of the King James Bible, caution should be used when reading them. (Approx. $6-$7)

Jacob's pillar: Learn how the stone pillow of the Patriarch Jacob traveled from the wilderness of Luz to it's place under the Coronation chair where every English Royal was crowned. (Approx.$4)

Petra: Learn of the lost city called 'Selah' and 'Mt. Seir' in the scriptures, and of it's 'High Places' spoken against by God as places of the worship of other gods. God's prophecies regarding Petra have of course come to pass. Packed with pictures! (Approx.$8)

Stonehenge and Druidism: Tells of the famous rock circle in the Salisbury plain of England, how it was built, and the astronomical design of it. Also traces the Celtic Druids back to the ten lost tribes of Israel. (Approx.$5)

Traditions of Glastonbury: (Highly Recommended!) Where was Jesus between the age of 12 and 30? This book documents the travels of Jesus and Joseph of Arimathea in England. As with most all of Capt's books, this one is packed with pictures. (Approx.$8-$9)

Missing Links Discovered in Assyrian Tablets: Loaded with maps, pictures, and illustrations! By the deciphering of the discovered ancient Assyrian Tablets (clay writing pads) we learn of the different names affixed to the Ten Tribes by their captors and deporters (the Assyrians), and with this key we can literally follow their migrations across the earth by the archaeological remains of their civilizations as they moved North and West into their future promised land - Europe and eventually the Americas.

Where did the Ten Tribes of Israel disappear to? This book gives solid support for the wanderings and the destinies of God's covenant people. Don't wonder any longer. This book is excellent and provides sound supportive evidence to back up its claim. We need more people like E. Raymond Capt who are not afraid to divulge the truth. (Approx.$17.00)



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Wed 03/18/09 10:20 AM
Why does everybody always think of Jewish blood when speaking of Israel? Judah is only 1/12 of the 12 tribes!!! That is why they call the them the lost ten tribes. They migrated North and for the most part lost their identity.

It is well known that there are ancient Tin mines in Britain. How do you think the Iron Age came about? Joseph of Arimathea had a vast fleet of ships!! No traveling problem at all. You could hug the coast most of the way - didn't even need a large open ocean going ship. Look what the Vikings did with their ships.


Miles, I have no doubt that the early Briton church was quickly corrupted by Knights Templars and other groups. Just as most of the church has been. The crusades were directed from Rome, not Briton. They used them the same way Replicans use the Religious Right to fight Iraq war.

I was speaking of the famous Roman persecution under Nero of the early church. I'm confused about your comments about Babylon and Yashua's death there? Are you talking about the Judah's captivity in Bablylon during Daniels time? The 10 northern tribes went into Assyrian captivity first as far as I know. Then Judah and Benjamin fell to Babylon - and eventually returned to rebuild the temple. There is little record of the other 10 tribes ever returning, so where did they go?

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Tue 03/17/09 09:49 AM
I Missed this article before:
Guess we'll see just how gullible Christians can be.
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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, March 4, 2009

A shocking document has come to light from a church in Ohio which educates its congregation that Barack Obama’s presidency is appointed by God and that Obama himself is “God’s minister,” in another perversion of Romans 13, the bible verse cited as an excuse for Christians not to oppose tyranny.

Ohio District Superintendent Rev. John Wooton was responsible for distributing the pamphlet, which was handed out at the Assembly of God church in Ohio, according to a reader who forwarded the document to us. Click here for the PDF file.

“This was handed out at the Assembly of God church that my fiance and I used to attend. We immediately stopped attending after getting this flier about ’submitting to Obama and the government,’ states the reader.

“The pastor even brought children to the front of the church, encouraging them to submit to teachers, firemen, and the police. It was insane.”

“I confronted the pastor about his stance on Romans 13, a year prior, and he assured me that he would never sell out his church. This sermon was given on the immediate Sunday after Obama’s election win. Please post this and inform others about it. I never, ever thought this would happen in the church I was attending, but thankfully, we were informed enough to leave this church,” he concludes.

The document cites Romans 13 verses 1-4 and claims that the following “paraphrases” can be interpreted from the bible.

- Barack Obama’s presidency is appointed by God. (v 1)

- Christians should lead the way in supporting Barack Obama’s presidency. (v 2)

- Barack Obama’s presidency can be a force for good and a deterrent against evil. (v 3)

- As president, Barack Obama is God’s minister to you for good. (v 4)

The document concedes that a majority of practicing Christians probably didn’t even vote for Obama because of his pro-abortion policies, indeed one of Obama’s first acts as President was to issue an executive order which ensured that millions more black babies are aborted in third world countries, with American taxpayers picking up the tab.

Obama himself has also scoffed at Christians in the past, arrogantly stating that people “cling to guns or religion” in tough times.

Despite this, the document urges Christians to “support loudly” Obama’s policies and “remember who is in control”.


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Tue 03/17/09 09:36 AM


Also England was not the Cradle of Christianity, ROME was! The Roman Catholic Church was founded by Constantine. Rome could not conquer the Celts which meant that the island of England was divided in half roughly. The Druids were slaughtered by English Christians and likewise took on the Vikings and got their asses handed to them by the Norsemen and had to pay annual tribute to them for YEARS! The English Church started a war they lost and were lucky the Vikings didn't do to them what they had done to the Druids!


This is not accurate.


This is the history Rome wants you to believe. But it is true that Rome could not conquer Briton. They were far from a bunch of savages, they defeated the best troops in the world, a superpower verses a tiny island nation! This was "Braveheart" x 10. They really were the "Defenders of The Faith" - their Faith gave them incredible bravery and courage.

That is why Yahweh picked this little island as the cradle for the young church. Safe from the persecution the rest of the Church was suffering. Why do people think Rome wanted to stamp them out so badly? Wasting their best troops in the process. Surely there were easier targets for expanding their empire? It was about stamping out Christianity.

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Sun 03/15/09 07:17 PM
Well, I don't think they were lost to Yahweh. But I do think they forgot their own heritage. Mannaseh means "forgetting" I believe.

Judah & Benjamin went into Babylonian captivity and many returned to the homeland of Israel, but the northern 10 tribes went into Assyrian captivity. And then continued to migrate north afterwards.

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We have brought you through this group of words to show that ish in Hebrew means a man. Now take the Hebrew word which is translated covenant, which in its original form has no vowel, but which in its Anglicized form retains the vowel i to preserve the y sound, and we have Brith, which joined with ish is Brith-ish, and means "A covenant man." Today the BRITISH people, or men of the covenant, are called Britons, and are dwelling in the British Isles!!!

We are told that the people of Waels call themselves, in ancient Welsh, "Bryth y Brithan," or Briths of Briton," which means "The Covenanters" of "the land of the Covenant." The first form of this phrase is almost vernacular Hebrew.

It is also unmistakably recorded in British history that the earliest settlers in Wales and southern England were called Simonii. They came by the way of the sea in the year 720 B. C. At this time there was the great­est influx of the Tuatha de Daanan to Ireland, and this synchronizes with the deportation of the Israelites of the commonwealth of Ephraim to Assyria, and the flight of Dan and Simeon from the seaports and coast country of Palestine. That Simonii is the plural of Simeon we need scarcely mention.

But all evidences of the fulfillment of this prophecy are not philological, for Isaiah, still addressing the Israelites who dwell in the islands, predicts the follow­ing: "For thy waste and desolate places, and the land of thy destruction [the destruction of their identity], shall even now be too narrow [pressed, straightened] by reason of the inhabitants, and they that swallowed thee up [the Assyrians] shall be far away.

The children which thou shalt have, after thou hast lost the other, shall say again in thine ears: The place is too straight [small, crowded, cramped] for me; give a place to me that I may dwell," (Isa. 49:19-20).

Here are a people called Israel who are living in the isles of the sea. They have lost one company of people, and yet their children say that the place is still too small, cramped and crowded, because there are too many inhabitants for such a small country. Conse­quently they ask the Mother Country to give them a place also. Or, according to Leeser's translation, they say, "Make room for me to dwell," and the Mother Country must do it, because it is she to whom the Lord has given the desolate heritages of the earth.

Mark this! It is also said of the mother country, or Mother Israel, that she "lost" her first children before other of her children asked for territory in which to dwell.

England is the only country on the face of the earth where these conditions obtain. Her first child was called New England, but she LOST it, and now it -- together with that which, for various reasons, has been annexed -- is called The United States of America.


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Sun 03/15/09 11:55 AM
Hurray for the Norse! :tongue: Just kidding. Good thing THEY converted eh.

No. Britain was the TRUE cradle of Christianity. Rome was and is the center of the false Church. They control the history books.

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Every place that the sole of your foot will tread upon I have given you, as I said to Moses." Joshua 1:3

What do the names: Joshua , Jesus , Hesus , Hu Gadarn , Hu the Mighty, Yeshua, have in common? They are all the names given to the same biblical Joshua who took the Israelites into the Promised Land. The eradicating of the knowledge of Joshua and the Israelite colonization of the British Isles has led to the longest enduring Holocaust, throughout Europe, which has not been properly recorded in history.

More Israelite blood has been shed over the identity issue than Jewish blood shed during the Second World War. The knowledge of who the druids were is a major key to solving a historic puzzle. The Druidic priesthood was established in Ireland and Britain, by Joshua of the Old Testament.



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Historical Record

Hu Gadarn, the Joshua of the Old Testament, came to Britain in the early to mid 1300's B.C.

"A fragmentary Welsh record, called the Welsh Triad, reads as follows: 'First was the race of the Cymry, who came with Hu Gadarn to Yns Prydain.' Hu came from the 'land of summer' -- a land located somewhere in what later constituted the realm of Constantinople (the capital of the eastern Roman Empire). ...

Who was Hu Gadarn? Gadarn is a Welsh word. It means 'the mighty.' Hu was a short form of the Old Celtic name Hesus... . Hesus is the Celtic -- and also the Spanish -- pronunciation of Jesus. ...

Jesus was merely the Greek form of the Hebrew name Joshua. Hu or Hesus the Mighty was Joshua the Mighty, the great general who led Israel into Palestine. And the Welsh Triad records that in his later years he also settled Israel peaceably in the British Isle. From there, for trading purposes, they spread to the coasts of the continent..." (Compendium of World History, by Herman L. Hoeh, Vol. II, page 49-50, 1969, printed in the U.S.A.)

"The educational system adopted by the Druids is traced to about 1800 B.C. [editors note: should be mid 1300's B.C.] when Hu Gadarn Hysicion (Isaacson), or Hu the Mighty, led the first colony of Cymri into Britain from Defrobane, where Constantinople now stands. In the justly celebrated Welsh Triads, Hu Gadarn is said to have mnemonically systematized the wisdom of the ancients of these people whom he led west from the Summerland.

He was regarded as the personification of intellectual culture and is commemorated in Welsh archaeology for having made poetry the vehicle of memory, and to have been the inventor of the Triads. To him is attributed the founding of Stonehenge, and introduction of several arts including glass-making and writing in Ogham characters. On Hu Gadarn's standard was depicted the Ox; in this possibly may be discovered the origin of the sobriquet, 'John Bull'.

Hu established, among other regulations, that a Gorsedd or Assembly of Druids and Bards must he held on an open, uncovered grass space, in a conspicuous place, in full view and hearing of all the people." (Celt, Druid and Culdee, by Isabel Hill Elder, page 53, The Covenant Publishing Company, London, 1973.)


Druidic History Edited by Rome

Hu Gadarn invented the writing method of Ogham script placed on sticks. Benedictine Monks made sticks with Ogham script and spread them throughout the lands they travelled, centuries later, trying to confuse future historians. The history of Europe was edited and the knowledge of Israelites coming to Britain and Ireland was modified and removed as seen fit by the Catholic monks. The identity of Irish and Scottish ethnic origins was lost to any but astute historians.

"Irish history is the only literature which specifically connects Israel with its past. ... And in Ireland the Catholic monks did their best to make it appear that Ireland was not settled by Hebrews at all, but by Magog! ...

...How Confusion Arose in Irish History

The Domestic Annals were artfully expanded to make it appear that Irish history commenced centuries earlier than it did in fact. The task of the monks was rendered easy by an unusual circumstance. ... Each of these factors made it easy for certain later monks, who followed the Septuagint, to alter and expand the official record." (Compendium of World History, by Herman L. Hoeh, Vol. I, pages 415-417, 1969, printed in the U.S.A.)


"...[they] suspect that these histories have, over the centuries, been doctored by the 'Romanophilic' monks, who copied them as a part of a general policy of putting the ancient Britons in a bad light." (The Holy Kingdom, by Adrian Gilbert, Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett, Corgi Books, 1999, page 213.)

"The fact is, Rome began early to covet Ireland. Once they got possession, it was necessary for them to destroy the influence of Jeremiah." (The Ten Lost Tribes, Rev. Joseph Wild, D.D., 1883, London: Robert Banks, Printer, Racquet Court, Fleet Street, E.C.)

"But if some day the secret archives of the Vatican are opened, new interpretations are conceivable and, above all, new facts may be brought to light." (Sails of Hope, Simon Wiesenthal, MacMillan Publishing Co., Inc, New York, 1973.)


The first church set up outside of Judea, was established by Joseph of Aramathea (Christ's uncle), in Glastonbury, England, about four years after the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ. Joseph of Aramathea was the wealthiest (Jewish) man in the Roman Empire, second only to Caesar. He was a friend of Caesar and owned tin mines in Britain. Joseph's influence took Christianity to Britain, in the first century A.D., long before Christianity flourished in Gentile Asia Minor, under the Apostle Paul.

The Apostles followed their Master's directive to go to the lost sheep of the House of Israel,first. Salvation is of the Jews, first. The tribes of Israel are next, and the Gentiles are sprinkled in, until the Millennial rule of Christ begins. Then, and only then, is the commission to "go ye unto all the world" really fulfilled. Christianity is for Israelites.

In the mind of the Vatican, the year 2000 is to begin the millennial rule of the Vicar of Christ, not Jesus Christ Himself. The year of repentance is to prepare the world for the institution of a new world order, under the influence of the Catholic Church. It is too bad if you are Protestant, even worse if you are Jewish or a Seventh Day Sabbath keeper.

The Significance of Joshua in Britain

What scripture says: " Every place that the sole of your foot will tread upon I have given you, as I said to Moses." Joshua 1:3 Never before has there been a historical link which so dramatically sets the British peoples apart from the rest of the world. The presence of Joshua in Ireland and England, makes the British inheritors of the title: 'a chosen people', of the Bible historical account.

The history of the British Isles can now be rewritten to re-establish the national inheritance of the Celtic and Anglo-Saxon peoples with that of the chosen people of the Bible.


Conclusion

The fact that Joshua was in Britain, is the missing link between the Identity Movement and the British peoples. Wherever Joshua placed his feet , became the soil of the Hebrews, known as Israel. The British Isles are the inherited lands of the Tribe of Ephraim, and a refuge for the Houses of Israel and Judah. Who can deny it? It comes from the mouth of the Almighty God of Israel.



Further reading and research :

Compendium of World History , by Herman L. Hoeh, 1969, Vol. I and II, printed in U.S.A.

The Ten Lost Tribes, Rev. Joseph Wild, D.D., 1883, London: Robert Banks, Printer, Racquet Court, Fleet Street, E.C.


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Sun 03/15/09 11:00 AM
Were the Druids pagans and early Britons a bunch of savages? Certainly not! They were part of the "Lost Tribes of Israel" and helped lay the fertile ground from which the First Church sprang.

This history also speaks to the fact that "Israel" is not one tiny Middle East country, but includes Britain & USA - the modern superpowers that recieved Yahweh's Blessings and shaped the entire world - until recently that is.

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Tradition has it that Joseph was accompanied by a young boy (Jesus) numerous times in his trips to the Tin Mines of Britain. After his resurrection, Joseph brings a band of the first disciples to the very same Island. Safe from the intense Roman persectution.

Ancient documents carefully preserved, and others recently recovered from dusty, long-forgotten archives referring to that epochal year, record him [Joseph] as having been cast upon the seas with a few faithful companions (Mary) by their remorseless enemies, in an open, oarless boat without sails, on an ebbing tide over which they drifted far from the shores of their shadowed Judean homeland, to which they would never return.

The only man who the Sadducees dared not oppose was Joseph, the uncle of Jesus, known scripturally and in secular history as Joseph of Arimathea. He was the protector of that valorous little band of disciples during the perilous years following the crucifixion, the indefatigable head of the Christian underground in Judea, and the guardian of Christ's only earthly treasure, - His mother.

In actuality, Joseph of Arimathea was the Apostle of Britain, the true Apostle first to set up Christ's standard on the sea-girt little isle, five hundred and sixty-two years before St. Augustine set foot on English soil. He, with twelve other disciples of Christ, erected in England the first Christian church above ground in the world, to the glory of God and His Son, Jesus Christ.

Joseph of Arimathea was a man of refinement, well educated, and one who possessed many talents. He had extraordinary political and business ability and was reputed to be one of the wealthiest men in the world of that time. He was the Carnegie of his day, a metal magnate controlling the tin and lead industry which then was akin in importance to that of steel today.

He is reputed to have owned one of the largest private merchant shipping fleets afloat which traversed the world's sea lanes in the transportation of this precious metal. In St. Jerome's translation, Joseph's official title is given as 'Nobilis Decurio'. This would indicate that he held a prominent position in the Roman administration as a minister of mines.

According to the Talmud, Joseph was the younger brother of the father of the Virgin Mary. He was her uncle, and therefore a great uncle to Jesus. Chiefly from the secular reports we learn that Joseph was a married man and his son, Josephes, left a mark of distinction in British history. It is quite obvious that the husband of Mary died while Jesus was young.

Under Jewish law such a circumstance automatically appointed the next male kin of the husband, in this case Joseph, legal guardian of the family. We know that Joseph never forsook his nephew. He stood by Him as a bold, fearless defender at the notorious trial, and defied the Sanhedrin by going to Pilate and boldly claiming the body when all others feared to do so. It is commonly taught that Jesus was poor and of obscure relatives. His relationship with the affluent Joseph of Arimathea proves otherwise. In His own right He was a property owner but long before He took up His mission He forsook all material wealth.


That such a trade (tin) existed is too well attested to need proof. Herodotus as early as 445 BC speaks of the British Isles as the Tin Islands or Cassiterides. Pytheas (352-323 BC) mentions the tin trade, attest the trade, and tin is still mined there today. Lord Avebury and Sir John Evans held the opinion that the trade existed as early as 1500 BC, and Sir Edward Creasy in his History of England writes: "The British mines mainly suppled the glorious adornment of Solomon's Temple".

Joseph of Arimathea was an uncle of the Virgin Mary, being the younger brother of her father. He gained his wealth as an importer in the tin trade, which existed between Cornwall and Phoenicia. On one of his voyages he took Our Lord with him when a boy. Our Lord either remained in Britain or returned later as a young man, and stayed in quiet retirement at Glastonbury. Here he erected for himself a small house of mud and wattle. Later Joseph of Arimathea, fleeing from Palestine, settles in the same place and erected a mud and wattle church there.

Tradition holds that Joseph's mud and wattle church was

replaced with Lady Chapel. The only writing to survive the

abbey's destruction is located in the wall of Lady Chapel. It

seems to give silent testimony to the presence at Glastonbury of

the mother of our Lord.



Any treatment of Glastonbury would not be complete

without the mention of the legendary King Arthur. Tradition

has it that Arthur was a relative of Joseph of Arimathea,

and that the Knights of Arthur's Round Table were also all

Joseph's relatives. I haven't seen verification for the

Knights, but there is plenty of evidence linking Arthur to

Glastonbury, and Joseph.


There is little doubt among those who have looked at the evidence, that England was the Cradle of Christianity, having been established by Jesus' uncle Joseph of Arimathea, along with many of the Lord's disciples, shortly after the Resurrection.



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Fri 03/13/09 03:50 PM
The plantaion owners loved to quote "Slaves obey your masters". Did that make slavery right? Many things in the bible are "conditional". Does a woman have to obey a husband that beats her? No. Did the disciples quit preaching when told to stop? No. Our government is "beating" us black and blue, and part of preaching the gospel is to expose them for who they are!

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Feds Train Clergy To "Quell Dissent" During Martial Law
Shocking KSLA 12 news report confirms story we broke last year, Pastors to cite Romans 13 as reason for public to obey government orders, relinquish guns and be taken to camps during state of emergency

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Thursday, August 16, 2007


A shocking KSLA news report has confirmed the story we first broke last year, that Clergy Response Teams are being trained by the federal government to "quell dissent" and pacify citizens to obey the government in the event of a declaration of martial law.

In May 2006, we exposed the existence of a nationwide FEMA program which is training Pastors and other religious representatives to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the government" in preparation for the implementation of martial law, property and firearm seizures, mass vaccination programs and forced relocation.

A whistleblower who was secretly enrolled into the program told us that the feds were clandestinely recruiting religious leaders to help implement Homeland Security directives in anticipation of a potential bio-terrorist attack, any natural disaster or a nationally declared emergency.


The first directive was for Pastors to preach to their congregations Romans 13, the often taken out of context bible passage that was used by Hitler to hoodwink Christians into supporting him, in order to teach them to "obey the government" when martial law is declared.

It was related to the Pastors that quarantines, martial law and forced relocation were a problem for state authorities when enforcing federal mandates due to the "cowboy mentality" of citizens standing up for their property and second amendment rights as well as farmers defending their crops and livestock from seizure.

It was stressed that the Pastors needed to preach subservience to the authorities ahead of time in preparation for the round-ups and to make it clear to the congregation that "this is for their own good."

Pastors were told that they would be backed up by law enforcement in controlling uncooperative individuals and that they would even lead SWAT teams in attempting to quell resistance.

Though some doubted the accuracy of this report at the time due to its fundamentally disturbing implications, the story has now been confirmed by a KSLA 12 news report, in which participating clergy and officials admit to the existence of the program.

Watch the video.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/160807_quell_dissent.htm


The report entertains the scenario of martial law as depicted in the movie The Siege and states that "quelling dissent would be critical."

Dr. Durell Tuberville serves as chaplain for the Shreveport Fire Department and the Caddo Sheriff's Office. Tuberville said of the clergy team's mission, "the primary thing that we say to anybody is, 'let's cooperate and get this thing over with and then we'll settle the differences once the crisis is over.'"

Such clergy response teams would walk a tight-rope during martial law between the demands of the government on the one side, versus the wishes of the public on the other. "In a lot of cases, these clergy would already be known in the neighborhoods in which they're helping to diffuse that situation," assured Sandy Davis. He serves as the director of the Caddo-Bossier Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness.

For the clergy team, one of the biggest tools that they will have in helping calm the public down or to obey the law is the bible itself, specifically Romans 13. Dr. Tuberville elaborated, "because the government's established by the Lord, you know. And, that's what we believe in the Christian faith. That's what's stated in the scripture."


So there you have it - Homeland Security are working with local police departments and religious leaders to prepare for the declaration of martial law and in particular developing techniques they will employ during the crisis to "quell dissent."

Phony Christian leaders are brainwashing their congregations to accept the premise that the totalitarian police state is "of the Lord" and that they should get on their knees and lick jackboots while the round-ups take place as citizens are processed into quarantine zones and detention camps by the National Guard and U.S. troops returning from Iraq.


The precedent for mass gun confiscation and martial law in times of a real or manufactured emergency was set during Hurricane Katrina, when police and National Guard patrols forced home owners - even in areas unaffected by the hurricane - to hand over their legally owned firearms at gunpoint.

This is a clear precursor for the imminent declaration of a state of emergency, a scenario that President Bush codified in his recent Presidential Decision Directive of May 9th, which states in the event of a "catastrophic event" the President can take total control over the government and the country, bypassing all other levels of government at the state, federal, local, territorial and tribal levels, and thus ensuring total unprecedented dictatorial power.

The scope of the program is so secretive that even Homeland Security Committee member and Congressman Peter DeFazio was denied access to view the classified portion of the documents.




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Fri 03/13/09 03:41 PM
They were here in Mpls about 6 years ago and we fought them and banned them as being unconstitutional. Now they want to bring them back again.

It is defenitely Big Brother. If we had angels running everything - no problem. That is not the case.

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Thu 03/12/09 07:34 PM
I'm quite sure there was an anti-depressent drug involved. There always is 100% of the time for every single school shooting! Guess you're not depressed anymore when dead, is that how they claim these drugs work?

The "just say no" drug campaign - what a crock. Kids would be better off on pot and cocaine that these ultra-dangerous anti-depressants.

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Thu 03/12/09 05:20 PM
No, the Druids were part of the "lost tribes" of Israel and were actually quite biblical. It is one of the reasons Christianity took off in early Britain. The Romans demonized them as they tried to stamp out the early church there.

On the subject of the Wicker Man movie. Here's some mind-controll and ritual witchcraft in another famous "atrocity".

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Another killer that seemed to be under the influence of some cabalistic or strange satanic programming was the Son of Sam Killer.

After Twelve shootings and 5 fatalities the Son Of Sam Killer was revealed to be Postal Worker David Berkowitz.

At the time of his capture, Berkowitz told police that he was carrying out the wishes of Sam, a 6,000 year old demon who gave his instructions through his neighbors black Labrador retriever named Sam.

It seemed that a Satanic force was carrying out an act of mental Masturbation during the killer's rampage. If you review the case over and over you come up with poetic chaos.

All of the victims in the murder cases were gunned down with a .44 Magnum Bulldog. Berkowitz claimed he received his orders to kill from a dog-named Sam. Sam Carr owned the Dog. Sam was Berkowitz's neighbor.

Berkowitz claimed that the Cult he dabbled in, Sacrificed animals. Obviously Berkowitz and Dogs did not get along. Many Dogs were dying in his neighborhood. Mainly on Wicker Street.

Berkowitz shot a dog-named Rocket at 18 Wicker Street. Two days Later 3 German Shepherds were found in the gutters. They were killed on Wicker Street. Donna Lauria was shot while her father Mike was bringing her pet poodle down from the apartment.

Berkowitz claimed that the Cult was ready to make the jump from animal Sacrifice to Human Sacrifice. One ancient ritual of human sacrifice was the burning of the Wicker. Humans were placed in a great Wicker man and were burned alive. This is important to consider when you realize that coincidentally during the height of the Son of Sam murders a 1973 movie was re-run at a theatre. The Movie was called the Wicker Man A few weeks later Berkowitz found himself on Wicker Street firebombing the house of Joachim Neto; the owner of the dog named Rocket. That was the dog he shot back in December of 1976.

A letter was then sent to New York Daily News Columnist Jimmy Breslin from someone who said that he had inside knowledge of the murders that were taking place. The letter ended with occult symbols and was signed "Son of Sam the Wicked King of Wicker." Berkowitz lived a block away from Wicker Street.

The people were getting scared. The murders were said to have been targeted at women with dark hair. Women were dying their hair blonde or wearing wigs.

In a letter to the Police found at the scene of the Son of Sam Murders of Valentina Suriani and Alexander Esau the killer signed off with the words: "I am the monster-Beelzebub the Chubby Behemoth."

Other strangeness followed The Son of Sam case. Six months after Berkowitz was captured, Sam Carr The owner of the black dog that allegedly spoke to Berkowitz committed suicide by shooting himself in the head with a rifle.



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Mon 03/09/09 02:14 PM
There has been a rash of TV shows and media demonizing parents for not vaccinating because it will put the other kids at risk. Hogwash! There have been numerous negative stories about the Amish not vaccinating in our local news over past 2 years. Goes to show the degree to which media is controlled.

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Mon 03/09/09 02:03 PM
There was a story in our local news last fall. Hunters have donated deer meat to food shelves for years. Last year they found "trace" amounts of lead and declared it "unsafe". Utter insanity. People have been eating deer shot with lead since the gun was invented! They'd rather have the homeless starve? At a time when food shelves are hurting?

I think maybe this decision was influenced by this new legislation now. A case of it already being enacted?

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Mon 03/09/09 01:47 PM
Edited by norslyman on Mon 03/09/09 01:50 PM
My point is that THEY (the elite) don't respect our soldiers. There is a long history. The WWI soldiers who marched on DC for their due pay and got quashed. The WWI vaccine victims who contracted Spanish Flu. The agent Orange victims who were denied treatment. The Gulf War Syndrome soldiers who were denied treatment. The deplorable conditions in the VA hospitals.

I would recommend any vets to go to www.beyondtreason.com were you can get a free dvd (for vets only) about the Gulf War Syndrome cover-up.

Here is a story that reminds me of the movie "Jacobs Ladder".
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Vets Sue CIA Over Mind Control Tests

By Noah Shachtman January 07, 2009 | 6:05:29 PMCategories: Bizarro

For two decades or more during the Cold War, the CIA and the military allegedly plied the unwitting with acid, weed, and dozens of psychoactive drugs, in a series of zany (and sometimes dangerous) mind-control experiments. Now, the Vietnam Veterans of America are suing the agency and the Pentagon for perceived abuses suffered under the so-called "MK-ULTRA" and other projects.

Six veterans are suffering from all kinds of ailments tied to this "diabolical and secret testing program," according to a statement from the vets' lawyers, passed on to SpyTalk's Jeff Stein.

The experiments allegedly included "the use of troops to test nerve gas, psychochemicals, and thousands of other toxic chemical or biological substances, and ... the insertion of septal implants in the brains of subjects in ... mind control experiments that went awry, leaving many civilian and military subjects with permanent disabilities." Subjects were tested without their consent, the veterans say. And when the trials were over, the government failed to "provide health care or compensation."



In a book published last year, former military psychiatrist James Ketchum describes an Army project -- separate from the CIA's efforts -- that took place at Edgewood Arsenal in Maryland. There, he saw test subjects "carry on conversations with various invisible people for as long as 2-3 days." Others "salute latrines" and attempt to "revive a gas mask" that they mistake for a woman.

The feds insist that MK-ULTRA ended, when it was exposed during Congressional hearings. But interest in chemical mind-control lives along, in some corners of the military-intelligence community. In a 2003 memo, then-Justice Department lawyer John C. Yoo suggesting that interrogation drugs could be used if their effects were not permanent or profound. Since then, evidence has accumulated that some detainees may have been drugged. "It's coming back," retired Colonel John Alexander told Sharon.
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The military are going to be the first ones to have mandatory bio-chip implants. Too what degree will they be able to modify behavior with a mind implant?

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Sun 03/08/09 03:53 PM
Edited by norslyman on Sun 03/08/09 03:55 PM
I pulled that up from: http://www.sndhight.com/1cadences.htm
The guy says he was a six year vet.
I'm sure not all units use these types, all depends where you end up I suppose.
I have heard other vets tell stories on various talk shows. One guy said he decided to quit boot camp after having to do various "kill, kill, kill" cadence calls.
There is no doubt countless Iraq civilians have been killed. Some estimates go as high as 1 million.

I do respect our soldiers. But not one ounce of respect for our leaders.

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Sun 03/08/09 01:51 PM
Maybe it shouldn't be looked at as satanism as much as "behavior modification".

Our Air Force pilots are already taking speed in their long flights to stay awake - literally the same thing as meth. It causes one to become extremely paranoid and jumpy. Some are becoming addicted and the practice is actually encouraged. Mistakes have been made and inncocents already killed. There is a famous case of Canadiens being fired upon by US airpower - they sued.

One could argue that our soldiers are already being trained as unfeeling killing machines. And that this troublesome conscience of theirs that causes PTSD is something to be overcome. Feelings of regret for killing innocent civilians is just one more obstacle in the search for the perfect soldier - they can't have these suicides can they? What a waste of their investment.

What of the cadence calls they learn? Isn't that a form of mind control?
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You'll Feel Better

Despite its title, this is not a "feel good" marching cadence. I imagine songs like this would help reinforce the negative image of veterans as psycho postal workers waiting to happen, should it ever get out to the public. Oh, wait...

Left, right, oh left, right, oh left, right, KILL!
Left, right, oh left, right, oh left, right, KILL!

Burn the town and kill the people,
you'll feel better when you do.
Burn the town and kill the people,
you'll feel better when you do.

Let's go to the grocery store,
Where all the grannies shop,
Pull out our machetes
And begin to chop!

Left, right, oh left, right, oh left, right, KILL!
Left, right, oh left, right, oh left, right, KILL!

Burn the town and kill the people,
you'll feel better when you do.
Burn the town and kill the people,
you'll feel better when you do.

Let's go to the playground,
Where all the kiddies play,
Lock and load our M-16s
And begin to slay!

Left, right, oh left, right, oh left, right, KILL!
Left, right, oh left, right, oh left, right, KILL!

Burn the town and kill the people,
you'll feel better when you do.
Burn the town and kill the people,
you'll feel better when you do.
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This is all common stuff. Imagine what's going on in the underground research labs.


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Sat 03/07/09 01:01 PM
If only they WOULD use ozone. But when have they ever done anything that makes sense? Unfortunately, they are going to use irradiation.frown

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Nuclear Lunch: The Dangers and Unknowns of Food Irradiation


The recent push for food irradiation fails to acknowledge the technology's inherent dangers, its intricate connections to the nuclear industry, and the FDA's failure to prove safety.
Beginning in 1986, the FDA has given the green light to expose nearly our entire food supply to nuclear irradiation. Since then, staunch citizen opposition has kept the technology out of use. But the recent hamburger recall led both the food and nuclear industries to push hard for beef irradiation's approval. Its use in the beef industry would open the door to irradiation as the "solution" to contamination crises in all food groups, from poultry to fruits and vegetables.

With beef irradiation's quick passage through the FDA approval process, citizen opposition, not government regulation, remains the critical component in keeping irradiated food off store shelves.

And from the hazards inherent in the technology to the FDA's own admission that the safety studies are flawed, the risks involved with food irradiation far outweigh the presumed "benefits."

Irradiation Basics


Food is irradiated using radioactive gamma sources, usually cobalt 60 or cesium 137, or high energy electron beams. The gamma rays break up the molecular structure of the food, forming positively and negatively charged particles called free radicals. The free radicals react with the food to create new chemical substances called "radiolytic products." Those unique to the irradiation process are known as "unique radiolytic products" (URPs).

Some radiolytic products, such as formaldehyde, benzene, formic acid, and quinones are harmful to human health. Benzene, for example, is a known carcinogen. In one experiment, seven times more benzene was found in cooked, irradiated beef than in cooked, non-irradiated beef. Some URPs are completely new chemicals that have not even been identified, let alone tested for toxicity.

In addition, irradiation destroys essential vitamins, including vitamin A, thiamin, B2, B3, B6, B12, folic acid, C, E, and K; amino acid and essential polyunsaturated fatty acid content may also be affected. A 20 to 80 percent loss of any of these is not uncommon.

Safety Studies Flawed


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Sat 03/07/09 12:52 PM
It's all about the CIA controlling the gobal drug market and keeping the prices higher by making it illegal. Many fortunes were made during prohabition days.

Pot alone could help turn our economy around. It has many uses as food, fuel, fabric. Think how many people could be put to work. Would make much more sense so use it than corn as alternative fuel.

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Sat 03/07/09 11:28 AM
Who's rambill? Sounds like he was a pretty cool guy.laugh

There is a long history in warfare of doing anything to gain the upper hand. Vikings had the "beserkers". African Zulus would ingest a narcotic drink. Aztec warriors chewed cocaine leaves. Come on people....this isn't that crazy! And especially for OUR government!
What would you expect of them.yawn

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Nazi Interest in Parapsychology and the Paranormal:

There was widespread interest by the Nazis in various paranormal topics. Albert Speer was clearly very interested in geomancy and the ley lines and sacred spots of Germany, and some of his architecture betrays knowledge of principles of mystical geometry and numerology.

The Vril Society in Germany promoted the idea that there might be a mystical energy within the earth that could be tapped by the German people, although Bulwer-Lytton had maintained it was the property of a race living inside the earth. It is well known that Hitler consulted astrologers for propitious dates for his military campaigns and employed dowsers on the battlefield to search for water and for minefields.

There was also some interest by the Nazi cadres in parapsychology as an espionage device - research that appears to be carried along by the intelligence apparati of the two victorious Allied powers (our CIA and the Soviet KGB.) Further, the Nazis were interested in antigravity and 'free energy' devices. Viktor Shauberger, a Nazi scientist, worked on a saucer design for one of his 'antigravity' ships16. For a long time, it was believed that the 'foo fighters' and 'ghost rockets' of the 1940s were a secret Nazi weapon, and there was a small minority that thought the Nazis may have created the 'flying saucers,' though the ETH-UFO hypothesis caught on soon after, by 1949.
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I believe this technology was brought here after the war. Explains the sudden increase in sightings in the late 40's & 50's. We are in Sci-Fi land technology wise. Only they keep it all to themselves.

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