Scamiflu was actually banned in Japan in 07' after 3 perfectly normal teens committed suicide. One jumped in front of a truck, and one jumped off a roof.

Lets not forget that Reichmarshall Rummsfeld owns stock in Tamiflu and he also brought us Aspartame (nutrasweet). He may actually succeed in killing more people this way than he did in Iraq.

Here's another article:

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Half of children taking Tamiflu have side-effectsNausea, insomnia and nightmares reported after taking antiviral drug for swine flu, study finds


David Batty
guardian.co.uk, Friday 31 July 2009 10.46 BST
Article history
More than half the children in England taking the swine flu drug Tamiflu suffer side-effects such as nausea, insomnia and nightmares, researchers have found.

Two studies from the Health Protection Agency (HPA) show a high proportion of schoolchildren reporting problems after taking the antiviral drug.

Data was gathered from children at three schools in London and one in the south-west of England who were given Tamiflu to try and stop them developing swine flu after classmates became infected.

The researchers behind the study said while children may have attributed symptoms to the use of Tamiflu that were actually due to other illnesses, "this is unlikely to account for all the symptoms experienced".

Their research, published in the medical journal Eurosurveillance, looked at side-effects reported by 11 and 12-year-old pupils in a secondary school that was closed for 10 days after a pupil was confirmed to have swine flu after a holiday in Cancun, Mexico.

Of the 248 pupils involved in the study, 51% reported side-effects, including nearly a third (31.2%) who felt sick, nearly a quarter (24.3%) who suffered headaches and more than a fifth (21.1%) who had stomach ache.

The researchers said "likely side-effects were common" and the "burden of side-effects needs to be considered" when deciding whether to give Tamiflu to children as a preventative measure.

The researchers concluded that a "high proportion of school children may experience side-effects of oseltamivir (Tamiflu) medication".

Another study, also published by Eurosurveillance, found that more than half of 85 children in three London schools had side-effects when given the drug as a preventative measure after a classmate was diagnosed.

Of the 45 children who suffered side-effects, 40% reported gastrointestinal problems including nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, stomach pain and cramps, while 18% reported a "neuropsychiatric side-effect" such as poor concentration, inability to think clearly, problems sleeping, feeling dazed or confused, bad dreams or nightmares and "behaving strangely".

The research was carried out in April and May – before the government decided to stop using Tamiflu preventatively. Only those with suspected or confirmed swine flu now get the drug.

Clinical trials have shown that around 10% of people taking Tamiflu report nausea without vomiting, and an extra 10% experience vomiting, according to the researchers.

The government's chief medical officer, Sir Liam Donaldson, said Tamiflu should still be given to children if they had established symptoms and there were no existing medical reasons not to prescribe the drug.

He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "All drugs do have side-effects. It is always a case of deciding the balance between benefiting a patient from a treatment and the side-effects.

"Most of the side-effects are relatively minor – a degree of nausea, a bit of a tummy upset, the sort of thing you get quite often with antibiotics.


A statement from Roche, which manufactures Tamiflu, said the contribution of Tamiflu to neuropsychiatric events "has not been established".

But three years ago the pharmaceutical company wrote to US doctors warning that "people with the flu, particularly children, may be at an increased risk of self-injury and confusion shortly after taking Tamiflu and should be closely monitored for signs of unusual behaviour".
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They've really been pushing Scamiflu lately with the lack of killer vaccine. There are lots of stories out now how Pharmacies are mixing their own children doses because of a lack of that too.

Can you feel the love?

FDA, FTC threaten Dr. Weil over immune-boosting supplements for H1N1 swine flu (opinion)
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor

(NaturalNews) In working to protect the business interests of vaccine manufactures, both the FDA and FTC have declared all-out war against any products that might offer consumers options other than vaccines. This week, that war against natural remedies reached the shores of Dr. Andrew Weil, who is perhaps the best-known alternative medicine doctor in America. In an intimidating, threatening letter jointly issued by the FTC and the FDA, these rogue government agencies threatened Dr. Weil with criminal prosecution for making true statements about his immune-boosting formula such as, "Astragalus ... is ... used traditionally to ward off colds and flu, and has demonstrated both antiviral and immune-boosting effects in scientific investigation."

This statement, although scientifically valid and true, is a threat to the profits of the vaccine industry, and so Dr. Weil's company is being targeted by the FTC / FDA vaccine racket tag-team for termination.

Some of the threats leveled against Dr. Weil by the FTC include:

• Forcing Dr. Weil's company to refund ALL customers who purchased his immune support formula. (For no apparent reason other than to burden his company with such costs.)

• Subjecting Dr. Weil's company with "legal action in the form of a Federal District Court injunction or Administrative Order."

• Gunpoint seizure of ALL of Dr. Weil's nutritional products: "If your firm fails to take corrective action immediately, FDA may take enforcement action, such as seizure or injunction for violations of the FFDC Act without further notice."

• Subjecting Dr. Weil and his company to criminal prosecution: "Firms that fail to take corrective action may also be referred to FDA's Office of Criminal Investigations for possible criminal prosecution for violations of the FFDC Act and other federal laws."

• Adding Dr. Weil's company to a list of companies that have been found in "violation" of the FFDC Act.


Do you now see what a criminal racket the vaccine industry is running in America by invoking these tactics of tyranny? This is the kind of thing you might expect to see in China, where government officials arrest Falun Gong members who attempt to meditate in public, but you wouldn't think that in the United States of America -- "Land of the Free" -- you'd be threatened with arrest and financial ruin for simply telling the truth about a powerful herb with scientifically-validated medicinal properties.


The FTC's dangerous double standard
This FTC / FDA letter claims Dr. Weil has been promoting his immune-boosting formula "...without rigorous scientific evidence sufficient to substantiate the claims."

This might be taken with some level of seriousness if, in fact, the vaccine makers had any such evidence to substantiate their own claims that flu vaccines work at all. But as NaturalNews readers have already learned, flu vaccines are a scientific hoax lacking any honest evidence that they actually work. In fact, all the evidence points to the reality that they don't work. (http://www.naturalnews.com/027239_v...)

The FTC, you see, applies a completely different standard of proof against dietary supplements than to vaccines. According to FTC staff, "...the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. SS 41 et seq., requires that claims that a dietary supplement can prevent, treat, or cure human infection with the H1N1 virus, must be supported by well-controlled human clinical studies at the time the claims are made."

And yet, at the same time, there are no well-controlled human clinical studies backing the efficacy of vaccines. They simply don't exist.

Thus, vaccines can be approved based on wishful thinking while dietary supplements must be subjected to "rigorous scientific study."

http://www.naturalnews.com/027303_the_FTC_America_vaccines.html

Emergency, emergency

the government is trying to help us!!

What situation ever improves when THAT happens?

Help us into our graves is more like it.

OK, we all know they're already doing it.
But now it's common knowledge.

The question is, How many of you are spy-worthy?
I don't think you Obama-worshipping, vaccine taking
robots will have anything to worry about.

In fact, you are HELPING the agenda.

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from democracynow.org
(yes I'm aware Amy Goodman promotes Global Warming Fraud and UN)

CIA Invests in Software Firm Monitoring Blogs, Twitter

Wired magazine has revealed the investment arm of the Central Intelligence Agency has invested in a software firm called Visible Technologies that specializes in monitoring social media sites, including blogs, Flickr, YouTube, Twitter and Amazon. Wired reporter Noah Shachtman writes, “America’s spy agencies want to read your blog posts, keep track of your Twitter updates—even check out your book reviews on Amazon.”

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AMY GOODMAN: When it was working for Hormel. So, I see here you’ve got trillions of dollars being spent on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, actually trillions. And it seems like it’s very ripe and open money that can’t be tracked. It can also develop the spy technology under the guise of just war.


NOAH SHACHTMAN: That’s true, although the Pentagon also has plenty of money to—independent of the war costs, to develop spy technology. And the intelligence agencies, remember, their budgets are largely a black box. We don’t know how much they spend. And so, you know, there’s plenty of places where money for spy technology can be funded out of.


AMY GOODMAN: And this issue of how Hormel used Visible, now In-Q-Tel buying into it?


NOAH SHACHTMAN: Mm-hmm. Well, I mean, I don’t know too much more than the fact that they used it. I don’t have a lot of details. But, you know, the way Visible works is it kind of grabs all the blogs and all the tweets out there, then it sorts for certain key words, it sorts for a sentiment about whether things are positive or negative, and then it also sorts based on which bloggers and which tweeters are really important or not. And you can sort of see over time how a conversation develops. Technology then allows companies or the government to respond directly within a blog or within a Facebook page to those people. So, who knows? The commenter—the next commenter on your blog might be the CIA.

Also, the Pedophile Protection bill just passed (Hate Crimes).

Why in the H double hockeysticks do they allow bills to piggyback on a larger bill?

It is the stupidest thing in the world. I could maybe see if they were related, but a defense spending bill?

Also, there is some evidence Obama himself is/was gay. It is a sytem of control for blackmailing politicians. Very common. Bush did gay acts with his Skull & Bones buddies, so should we expect anything different from Obamanation?

Gary Null is awesome, I listen to his raio show occasionaly.
www.garynull.com

I remember he tried to publicly reach out to Patrick Swayze when he first got cancer. Obviously, Swayze didn't take him up on his offer and became the poster-boy for the huge TV Cancer fake fundraiser instead. He could still be alive if he'd made the right choice.

Null also spearheaded the lawsuit against the state of New York on behalf of the medical workers who don't want to be forcibly vaccinated.

I think they just won. Major victory.

Hmmm.... Mainstream media is awfully quiet on THAT story.

Well of course because it was specifically mandated and it has a lot of spiritual symbolism.

It is curious how cutting oneself is a psychological disorder that is very common among teens these days?

Torah also says not to get tattoos and that is of course everywhere. Could the tattoos and piercings lead to the cutting?

Why don't they just smoke some pot, watch some Monty Python and Benny Hill like good old American kids? Things are just getting very progressively darker.

full article here:
http://www.reformation.org/vaccine.html

Yes, the Torah says NOT to make any cuttings in the flesh.

Look at nature.
Everyting that bites and punctures your skin:
snakes, spiders, scorpions, mosquitos, ect.

Is there a reason children NATURALLY fear the needle and cry?

It is their God-given insticts.

Edward Jenner—a quack doctor— was the father of the filthy practice of vaccination:



Edward Jenner S.J. (1749 —1823). Edward Jenner was an S.J. -- a Slick Jesuit -- who taught the medical world how to use the POISONED NEEDLE. He was the first to associate human diseases with that of animals. This idea paved the way for vaccination which is responsible for the deaths of multiplied millions of people around the world. The idea that humans and animals are related and share the same diseases led to the theory of evilution which is responsible for the spiritual death of multiplied millions more.

In the countryside in Gloustershire, England, where Jenner lived, the farmers had a legend or superstition that catching cowpox (a disease of cows which was transferred to the cows' udders by unwashed or bleeding hands) would act like a charm or amulet to make them immune from catching the human disease of smallpox.

Medicine man Jenner took this local legend or old wives' tale and turned it into a scientific FACT. He did this by first getting some scientific credentials (M.D., F.R.S. - Fellow of the Royal Society). Next he wrote a book and on the title page only he used the term VARIOLAE VACCINAE. This means in Medieval Latin: smallpox of the cow. Thus associating a human disease with a disease of the cow. There never was such a disease as smallpox of the cow until "Dr." Jenner invented it for the title of his book.


Jenner invented a new disease—VARIOLAE VACCINAE—smallpox of the cow!!


Notice how medicine man Jenner cleverly uses the scientific name for smallpox, VARIOLAE, and associates it with the cow disease of cowpox. He NEVER mentions the name VARIOLAE VACCINAE again in his book. It is mostly about HORSE GREASE being the cause of smallpox of the cow. Jenner figured that very few people would actually read the book but most would just look at the COVER and make a mental association between Smallpox and Cowpox.

Dr. Charles Creighton— a brilliant Scottish doctor—exposed Jenner's clever sleight of hand in his masterly tome:Jenner and Vaccination.



Dr. Charles Creighton

"The title of Jenner's cowpox paper is: "An Inquiry into the Causes and Effects of the Variolae Vaccinae, a Disease discovered in some of the Western Counties, especially Gloucestershire, and known by the name of the Cowpox." An objection might be taken to "discovered," but let that pass. The leading line in this full and learned title is Variolae Vaccinae, which is the only name in the short title. Now Variolae Vaccine is Latin for smallpox of the cow. An affection of cows and milkers, which had been known to country people for generations as the cowpox, is suddenly introduced to the learned, who had never heard of it before, under a brand-new name.

The new name is put in the forefront of the title, it overshadows the old country name both by its prominence and by its semblance of scientific precision, and, for purposes of short reference, it becomes the sole name. This startling novelty is on the title-pages, and only on the title-pages. Jenner never says, in the preface or text, that the name is a new one, hitherto unheard of in veterinary or medical writings; he never says a single word to justify its invention; he never once uses it in the preface or text at all.

But there it stands in the title as the full, correct, and scientific name of the disease, to be copied in journals and repeated in a hundred ways when not one word of the essay would be copied or repeated, carrying with it, in short, all the power over the ideas that a descriptive synonym for an unfamiliar thing does naturally carry with it." (Jenner and Vaccination, Dr. Charles Creighton, p. 44).

This is like saying that a horse chestnut (a tree) and a chestnut horse are the same thing or that a beetle (an insect) is the same thing as a BEATLE (a decomposing rock musician).

The only correlation between smallpox and cowpox is that both names ended in POX. Heaven and Hell both start with the same letter H but they are vastly different places.



Jenner inoculating his 18 months old
son with swinepox. His son will die of
TB when he is 20.

"Getting the jab." Jenner inoculates an 8 year old boy named" James Phipps with cowpox. The boy will die of TB at 21.


Inoculation came from ancient Egypt via India.



Isis or Hathor— the Egyptian holy cow goddess.

Her name means "The Dwelling of Horus", for it was thought that Horus as the Sun God came to rest each evening on her breast before being reborn with the awakening dawn. Hathor is the great Sky-goddess that as a celestial cow gave birth to the universe. She was often represented as a cow or with bovine attributes such as a cow's head, cows’ ears or horns on her headdress.

Hathor was the goddess of Joy and Motherhood and the embodiment of all that is best in women. She was also considered the goddess of music, song, dance and lighthearted pleasure, but she was essentially a Moon goddess. She was considered the protectress of pregnant women and midwives. Her main cult centre was at Dendera, where she was worshipped along with her husband, Horus. Hathor was the Supreme goddess of sexual love in Egypt, immediately identified with Aphrodite by the Greeks.

Her temple at Dendera was in The House of Intoxication and Enjoyments. Her main attributes were two ritual instruments carried by her priestesses, the sistrum, a bronze sacred rattle and the menat, a necklace, thick with beads and a counterpoise long enough to be grasped in the hand which was only worn by Hathor, but used by her priestesses as a healing instrument. In Greece she was also known as Diana of the Ephesians and in Rome as Venus. Papal Rome later stole her from the Egyptians . . . and called her the Virgin Mary!!

During the Dark Ages, Papal Rome had a death grip on Europe. The four horsemen of the Apocalypse -- war, famine, disease and death -- rode roughshod over the world for over 1000 years. Lack of personal hygiene and sanitation led to plagues and epidemics which caused the deaths of millions of people. The monkish orders set the course that history took during this dark night of the world:



Anthony (251 - 330) was the founder of the Roman Catholic monastic orders.

Anthony was an Egyptian hermit and the founder of the Roman monastic orders. He was the patron saint of pigs. In this picture he is shown with his favorite animal under his habit. Owing to the fact that the Roman monks never bathed, nobody ever got too close to them to hear what they were saying.

With the dawning of the blessed Reformation morning, Satan saw the handwriting on the (door) wall. A restored Bible would bring the blessings of true Christianity, good health, hygiene, and sanitation that Europe had not seen for over 1000 years.

Satan was not about to roll over and die however. He raised up his champion, Ignatius LIEola, to resist and delay the dawning of the blessed day.



Ignatius LIEola (1491 — 1556) (Mr. I.H.S.).

LIEola found that the European demons were powerless to resist the sword of God's Word so he decided to send his disciples to the four corners of the earth in order to find more potent poison to kill the Reformation. One of them, Francis Xavier was sent to India and Japan.

Jesuit priests made contact with the most powerful medicine men in order to find more potent poison to kill the Reformation.


Francis Xavier (1506 —1552) was sent to India and Japan.

Francis Xavier was sent to India and he made contact with the powerful Brahmin priests and medicine men. It was there that the Jesuits learned the Brahmin mode of inoculating to appease the vicious, vengeful demon of smallpox.



A Malaba woman invoking the goddess of smallpox and carrying fire on her head symbolic of the disease.



A Religious Dramatic Representation of the Power of the Hindu goddess of Smallpox.

"The goddess stands with two uplifted crooked daggers, threatening to strike on the right and left. Before her is a band of the executors of her vengeance. Two of them wear grinning red masks, carry black shields, and brandish naked scimitars. White lines, like rays, issue from the bodies of the others, to indicate infection. On the left there is a group of men with spotted bodies, inflicted with the malady; bells are hung at their cinctures, and a few of them wave in their hands black feathers.

They are preceded by musicians with drums, who are supplicating the pity of the furious deity. Behind the goddess, on the right, there advances a bevy of smiling young women, who are carrying gracefully on their heads baskets with thanksgiving offerings, in gratitude for their lives and their beauty having been spared. There is, besides, a little boy with a bell at his girdle, who seems to be conveying something from the right arm of the goddess.

This action may probably be emblematic of inoculation. In a country where every thought, word and deed are mere repetitions of those of their progenitors, a composition like this bears the stamp of great antiquity." (History of Inoculation & Vaccination, Lecture Memoranda, A.M.A., p. 18).
The Jesuits became willing students of the Brahmin medicine men:

"The man who after Xavier had the greatest success in India, but who also perverted the character of the mission, and introduced the most abominable idolatry, was Father Francis Nobili. He arrived at Madura in 1606, and was surprised that Christianity had made so little progress in so long a time, which he attributed to the strong aversion which the Indian had for the European, and to the fact, that the Jesuits, having addressed themselves more especially to the Pariahs, had caused Christ to be considered as the Pariahs' God.'

He therefore resolved to play the part of a Hindu and a Brahmin. After having learned with wonderful facility their rites, their manners, and their language, he gave himself out as a Saniassi, a Brahmin of the fourth and most perfect class; and, with imperturbable impudence, he asserted that he had come to restore to them the fourth road to truth, which was supposed to have been lost many thousands of years before.

He submitted to their penances and observances, which were very painful; abstained from everything that had life, such as fish, flesh, eggs; respected their prejudices, and, above all, the maintenance of the distinction of classes. It was forbidden the catechumen Pariah to enter the same church with the Sudra or Brahmin converts. All this was the beginning of those heathen ceremonies and superstitions with which the Christian religion was contaminated." (History of the Jesuits, J. B. Nicolini, p. 108).

Dr. J .Z. Holwell sent a most detailed account of these religious rites to the College of Physicians in London in 1767.

"Inoculation is performed in Indostan by a particular tribe of Bramins, who are delegated annually for this service from the different Colleges of Bindoobund, Eleabas, Benares, & c. over all the distant provinces: dividing themselves into small parties, of three or four each, they plan their traveling circuits in such wise as to arrive at the places of the operation consists only in abstaining for a month from fish, milk, and ghee (a kind of butter made generally of buffalo's milk); the prohibition of fish respects only the native Portugese and Mahomedans, who abound in every province of the empire."(An Account of the Manner of Inoculating for the Smallpox in the East Indies, Dr. J. Z. Holwell, F.R.S.).



Lady Mary Wortley Mongau (1689 -- 1762).

In the year 1717, Lady Mary Wortley Montagu was the smokescreen that the Jesuits used to introduce this Indian religious rite into England. Lady Mary was not even a doctor. Inoculation or variolation was given the sanction of the Royal Family when 2 daughters of the Prince of Wales were inoculated. Barbaric as this religious rite was; it was the human disease of smallpox that was injected into the bloodstream. Inoculation was the FOOT-IN-THE-DOOR to prepare the people for something far worse.



Edward Jenner (1749 —1823).

When Jenner invented his Variolae Vaccinae or smallpox of the cow, he planted the insidious seed that men and beasts share the same disease . . . and therefore must be related. This opened the door to vaccination or the injecting of animal diseases into humans. This new bizarre rite spread like the plague all over England. It was not confined to England however, it soon spread to Continental Europe and even crossed the ocean to America.

Dr. Luigi Sacco - The Jenner of Italy.

"It was not unusual," Marshall wrote home to Jenner," to see in the mornings of the public inoculation at the Hospital, a procession of men, women, and children, conducted through the streets by a priest carrying a cross, come to be inoculated. By these popular means it met not with opposition, and the common people express themselves certain that it was a blessing sent from Heaven, though discovered by one heretic and practised by another." (Jenner and Vaccination, Dr. Creighton, p. 288).

Dr. Francis Xavier Balmis - The Jenner of Spain.

"The great event in connection with Spain was the expedition of Dr. Francis Xavier Balmis, physician to his Catholic Majesty. He obtained a concession to introduce vaccination to the colonies in America and Asia, and to defray expenses by freely trading in merchandise. He sailed from Corunna, 30th November, 1803, with twenty two children for the propagation of virus.

The Canary Islands were first visited, then Porto Rico, and at Caracas the party divided, Don Francis Salvani proceeding to Peru and Chili, whilst Balmis attended to Cuba and Mexico, crossing the Pacific to the Philippines with twenty-six children to maintain the succession of the virus, and proceeding from thence to Macao and Canton. Having circumnavigated the globe as vaccinator and trader, Balmis re-appeared in Madrid with great éclat, and kissed the King's hand on 7th September, 1806 . . . "(The Story of the Great Delusion, William White, p. 401).

Louis Pasteur - the Jenner of France.

Louis Pasteur was the Jenner of France. He conducted all kinds of ghoulish experiments on animals in order to prove his germ theory of disease. His ancestors were Huguenots who were forced to embrace Romanism by the Inquisition.



Louis Pasteur (1822 - 1895).

Pasteurization of milk is named after Pasteur. This process involved heating milk until ALL the nutrients are boiled away. We are not allowed to drink real milk but the medical Inquisition lets us be vaccinated with diseased calf lymph.


Children of Israel worshipping the GOLDEN CALF.

The Egyptians worshipped hundreds of gods and one of them was the HOLY COW. The children of Israel brought this evil practice out of Egypt with them.

Moses was given detailed instructions by God about sanitary conditions. He speaks of frequent bathing . . . and washing of clothes. Quarantine was commanded to prevent the spread of infectious diseases etc.,etc. God describes the promised land as a land flowing with MILK and honey meaning that there would be lots of COWS and bees in the promised land.

Moses' Four Steps to Good Health.

SERVE THE TRUE GOD DIET PERSONAL HYGIENE SANITATION

"If you will diligently hearken to my commandments I will put none of these diseases upon you which I put upon the Egyptians" (Exodus 15:26).

Moses prohibited the Israelites from copying the Egyptian practice of inoculation.

"Thou shalt not ....make any cuttings in your flesh."(Lev. 21:5).

Wherever the children of Israel settled we can be sure that they brought those hygienic practices with them.

"For Moses in old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogue every Sabbath day." (Acts 15:21).

Unfortunate story.
Yes, you have to be careful of natural cures too.
Use discernment.

All I know is that people should have more options than chemo.
And an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Sometimes people wait too long before anything can help.

And all I know is that the Guld War Syndrome has DEFENITELY been linked to the vaccines.
This stuff always starts with the military somehow.

And as a Christian, I do know that there IS a global de-population agenda. The bible states that the end-time plagues are coming. I believe they will be man-made.

Rev
6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

I really can't imagine lions, tigers , and bears running wild and munching people. Because, like, we have guns.

Many of these vaccines are grown in chicken embryos, monkey kidneys, ect. And if the long-awaited Avian Flu finally arrives? I believe this is how the 'beasts' of the earth will kill us. And who knows what is going on in the Black Budget labs and what other goodies await us.

There is some real sci-fi stuff going on.
google morgellons disease sometime!

I also know that a lot of the most far-out conspiracy stuff is put out by the government themselves (agent provacetuers) - to muddy the waters. So that they CAN point the finger and laugh. I listen to Art Bells old show Coast to Coast (most popular late night show) all the time. A mixture of truth and fiction to confuse people. And it's pretty entertaining.

I believe I have, and continue to pray for, the gift of discernment. It is by far one of the most valuable spiritual gifts you need in sorting fact from fiction.

Cheers

What happened to that girl is very sad.

Do you really think that people want Americans to die or become disabled? What would be the point of that?

This is the reality. A person has more of a chance of getting killed in a car accident then they have of having problems with flu shots.


Oh, gee, duh, um..... money!!!!

Big Pharma gets a lifelong customer.

I'm afraid I have to backtrack a little,
America's biggest problem isn't being dumbed down,
it is being naive in the extreme.

How is your houseboat holding up on the river DeNile?

Feel free to say your piece anytime, that's what this is all about.

First of all, who is really creating an environment of fear?
Conspiracy fact sites who get read by a small # of people,
or mainstream media, largely funded by Big Pharma
reaching the majority of the populace
with all the money in the world to be gained?

Who has the real agenda?

Yes, people SHOULD do their own research
always ask yourself who is doing the majority of the advertising on whatever media.

What does this site really have to gain by stopping people from getting vaccines? They dont' even have ANY advertising!

I really don't get your point at all.

And you didn't really explain how Spanish flu started very well. They didn't say it was a flu shot. They said it was a Typhoid shot.

Read it again!!

Don't be surprised if you get some auto-immune disease down the road. It may take a while to appear.

Anyone see 60 Minutes Sunday?

High School football player on a respirator. Total fear-mongering to scare people into getting the shots. But they admitted that he had also contracted a Mersa virus in addition to H1N1. That was actually the bigger problem.

So hmmm, another medical created problem. The over-use of antibiotics CREATED these viruses. And the best place to pick one up....THE HOSPITAL!!!!!!

They also said that most of the team got the flu, was sick for a few days, but back playing football the next week!!!!!

Scared of the flu? No way.
Scared of the medical system?
Oh Yea

Hmmm.....
They acually dug up some frozen bodies in Alaska last year to recover frozen lung tissue containing Spanish Flu.

What for?

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http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sf1.html

CHAPTER 2: THE SPANISH INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC OF 1918 WAS CAUSED BY VACCINATIONS

As has been stated before, all medical and non-medical authorities on vaccination agree that vaccines are designed to cause a mild case of the diseases they are supposed to prevent. But they also know and admit that there is no way whatsoever to predict whether the case will be mild or severe - even deadly. With this much uncertainty in dealing with the very lives of people, it is very unscientific and extremely dangerous to use such a questionable procedure as vaccination.

Many vaccines also cause other diseases besides the one for which they are given. For instance, smallpox vaccine often causes syphilis, paralysis, leprosy, and cancer. (See the chapters on smallpox and plagues.) Polio shots, diphtheria toxin-antitoxin, typhoid vaccine, as well as measles, tetanus and all other shots often cause various other stages of disease such as post-vaccinal encephalitis (inflammation of the brain,) paralysis, spinal meningitis, blindness, cancer (sometimes within two years,) tuberculosis, (two to twenty years after the shot,) arthritis, kidney disease, heart disease (heart failure sometimes within minutes after the shot and sometimes several hours later.) Nerve damage and many other serious conditions also follow the injections.

When several shots are given (different vaccines) within a few days or a few weeks apart, they often trigger intensified cases of all the diseases at once, because the body cannot handle such a large amount of deadly poison being injected directly into the bloodstream. The doctors call it a new disease and proceed to suppress the symptoms.

When poison is taken by the mouth, the internal defense system has a chance to quickly eject some of it by vomiting, but when the poisons are shot directly into the body, bypassing all the natural safeguards, these dangerous poisons circulate immediately throughout the entire body in a matter of seconds and keep on circulating until all the cells are poisoned.

I heard that seven men dropped dead in a doctor’s office after being vaccinated. This was in an army camp, so I wrote to the Government for verification. They sent me the report of U.S. Secretary of War, Henry L. Stimson. The report not only verified the report of the seven who dropped dead from the vaccines, but it stated that there had been 63 deaths and 28,585 cases of hepatitis as a direct result of the yellow fever vaccine during only 6 months of the war. That was only one of the 14 to 25 shots given the soldiers. We can imagine the damage that all these shots did to the men. (See the chapter on What Vaccinations Did to Our Soldiers.)

The first World War was of a short duration, so the vaccine makers were unable to use up all their vaccines. As they were (and still are) in business for profit, they decided to sell it to the rest of the population. So they drummed up the largest vaccination campaign in U.S. history. There were no epidemics to justify it so they used other tricks. Their propaganda claimed the soldiers were coming home from foreign countries with all kinds of diseases and that everyone must have all the shots on the market.

The people believed them because, first of all, they wanted to believe their doctors, and second, the returning soldiers certainly had been sick. They didn’t know it was from doctor-made vaccine diseases, as the army doctors don’t tell them things like that. Many of the returned soldiers were disabled for life by these drug-induced diseases. Many were insane from postvaccinal encephalitis, but the doctors called it shell shock, even though many had never left American soil.

The conglomerate disease brought on by the many poison vaccines baffled the doctors, as they never had a vaccination spree before which used so many different vaccines. The new disease they had created had symptoms of all the diseases they had injected into the man. There was the high fever, extreme weakness, abdominal rash and intestinal disturbance characteristic of typhoid. The diphtheria vaccine caused lung congestion, chills and fever, swollen, sore throat clogged with the false membrane, and the choking suffocation because of difficulty in breathing followed by gasping and death, after which the body turned black from stagnant blood that had been deprived of oxygen in the suffocation stages. In early days they called it Black Death. The other vaccines cause their own reactions — paralysis, brain damage, lockjaw, etc.

When doctors had tried to suppress the symptoms of the typhoid with a stronger vaccine, it caused a worse form of typhoid which they named paratyphoid. But when they concocted a stronger and more dangerous vaccine to suppress that one, they created an even worse disease which they didn’t have a name for. What should they call it? They didn’t want to tell the people what it really was — their own Frankenstein monster which they had created with their vaccines and suppressive medicines. They wanted to direct the blame away from themselves, so they called it Spanish Influenza. It was certainly not of Spanish origin, and the Spanish people resented the implication that the world-wide scourge of that day should be blamed on them. But the name stuck and American medical doctors and vaccine makers were not suspected of the crime of this widespread devastation — the 1918 Flu Epidemic. It is only in recent years that researchers have been digging up the facts and laying the blame where it belongs.

Some of the soldiers may have been in Spain before coming home, but their diseases originated in their own home-based U.S. Army Camps. Our medical men still use that same dodge. When their own vaccines (required for travel) cause vaccine diseases abroad they use this as grounds for a scare campaign to stampede people into the vaccination centers. Do you remember the Hong Kong Flu and the Asian Flu and the London Flu scares? These were all medically-made epidemics mixed with the usual common colds which people have every year.

Now (1976) we are being worked on again by the vaccine -epidemic makers in their effort to force another multi million dollar vaccine sale caper. Their con men have already talked President Ford into handing over $135 million dollars to start their vaccine racket. Even the insurance companies refused to become involved with such an obviously dangerous and crooked scheme. So, again the medical and drug con men induced the appropriate government officials to guarantee insurance against the, possible billions of dollars in law suits which could be brought against the vaccine promoters if the vaccine campaign is carried out as planned. It’s a good thing Ford was voted out of office. It’s too bad he wasn’t "dumped" before he paid the poison squad the MONEY’ to poison the whole population. However, we don’t yet know if President Carter will be any better. Will he be held in the grip of the medical and drug dictatorship? Or will he investigate — learn the truth — reverse the decisions and make the vaccine makers return the money taken from the taxpayers under false pretenses?

The statement of the swine flu vaccine promoters to the effect that the vaccine is harmless, is false, and the statement that it will protect against flu is false. Fifty-six people died after the shots, some within 48 hours. There is confusion and disagreement among the doctors about all aspects of the vaccine, from the safety and effectiveness to the necessity for it, who should have it and who should be warned against it.

Their scare-head campaign cry is that the swine flu is like the 1918 flu which killed 20,000,000 people. They don’t have any usable and provable blood samples from the 1918 flu epidemic to prove it. That was 58 years ago, and the doctors were just as confused and inefficient then as now. However, one thing is certain — the 1918 Spanish Influenza was a vaccine-induced disease caused by extreme body poisoning from the conglomeration of many different vaccines. The soldiers at Fort Dix who were said to have had Swine Flu had been injected with a large variety of vaccines like the vaccines which caused the 1918 flu epidemic. The flu epidemic at Fort Dix was in no way related to swine. There were no swine at camp (unless we want to sarcastically call the vaccine promoters who caused the diseases -"swine.")

To add to the confusion, the doctors tell the people that there are a lot of various kinds of flu; the one which the soldiers at Fort Dix had was AVictoria flu, there are other strains of flu virus, and also, that the swine flu vaccine which so many people have taken already will not protect them against the many other types of flu. This will be used as an "out" in case of law suits later on when more casualties begin to show up. The doctors will say that the vaccine failed because it was the wrong kind of flu for the vaccine. Of course, no one can prove it one way or the other because viruses are illusive, invisible organisms which are unstable and unpredictable. One dictionary definition of virus is "a morbid poison." The vaccines injected into the body are poison and cause the typical poison reactions. Virus (poison) does not fly around and attack people.

Therefore, there will be no swine flu epidemic unless the vaccine promoters make one like they did in the 1918 flu epidemic. It will not kill 20,000,000 people unless the people submit to the disease-producing shots. There are also, other causes of disease besides vaccines, such as bad food, which has been devitalized and contaminated with poison preservatives and artificial drug concoctions. There are many more causes of disease but no diseases are contagious(See the chapter on the germ theory).

Vaccine drives come and go as often as the vaccine promoters can cook up the slightest pretense of a reason.n Back in1957 they were trying to stir up a vaccination campaign for what they decided to call Asiatic flu. An editorial in the Herald and Express for August 29, 1957 was captioned, "Fear of Flu Propaganda." Part of the piece is as follows:

"What a tempest in a teapot has been blown up over the probability that this country will experience an epidemic of the Asiatic flu in the fall and winter months ahead.

"Even the United States Department of Health is stooge for the panic — and has issued statements which are frightening the public, rather than reassuring them by pointing out that this epidemic, while widespread, gives no indication of being any more dangerous than our usual flood of influenza-like colds when winter comes on.

"Those who read between the lines even wonder whether the whole thing might not be a bit of super salesmanship on the part of those who are making and selling the vaccines which are being prepared.. . ."

I WAS AN ON-THE-SPOT OBSERVER OF THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

All the doctors and people who were living at the time of the 1918 Spanish Influenza epidemic say it was the most terrible disease the world has ever had. Strong men, hale and hearty, one day would be dead the next. The disease had the characteristics of the black death added to typhoid, diphtheria, pneumonia, smallpox, paralysis and all the diseases the people had been vaccinated with immediately following World War 1. Practically the entire population had been injected "seeded" with a dozen or more diseases — or toxic serums. When all those doctor-made diseases started breaking out all at once it was tragic.

That pandemic dragged on for two years, kept alive with the addition of more poison drugs administered by the doctors who tried to suppress the symptoms. As far as I could find out, the flu hit only the vaccinated. Those who had refused the shots escaped the flu. My family had refused all the vaccinations so we remained well all the time. We knew from the health teachings of Graham, Trail, Tilden and others, that people cannot contaminate the body with poisons without causing disease.

When the flu was at its peak, all the stores were closed as well as the schools, businesses — even the hospital, as the doctors and nurses had been vaccinated too and were down with the flu. No one was on the streets. It was like a ghost town. We seemed to be the only family which didn’t get the flu; so my parents went from house to house doing what they could to look after the sick, as it was impossible to get a doctor then. If it were possible for germs, bacteria, virus, or bacilli to cause disease, they had plenty of opportunity to attack my parents when they were spending many hours a day in the sick rooms. But they didn’t get the flu and they didn’t bring any germs home to attack us children and cause anything. None of our family had the flu — not even a sniffle— and it was in the winter with deep snow on the ground.

When I see people cringe when someone near them sneezes or coughs, I wonder how long it will take them to find out that they can’t catch it — whatever it is. The only way they can get a disease is to develop it themselves by wrong eating, drinking, smoking or doing some other things which cause internal poisoning and lowered vitality. All diseases are preventable and most of them are cureable with the right methods, not known to medical doctors, and not all drugless doctors know them either.

It has been said that the 1918 flu epidemic killed 20,000,000 people throughout the world. But, actually, the doctors killed them with their crude and deadly treatments and drugs. This is a harsh accusation but it is nevertheless true, judging by the success of the drugless doctors in comparison with that of the medical doctors.

While the medical men and medical hospitals were losing 33% of their flu cases, the non-medical hospitals such as BATTLE CREEK, KELLOGG and MACFADDEN’S HEALTH-RESTORIUM were getting almost 100% healings with their water cure, baths, enemas, etc., fasting and certain other simple healing methods, followed by carefully worked out diets of natural foods. One health doctor didn’t lose a patient in eight years. The very successful health treatment of one of those drugless doctors who didn’t lose any patients will be given in the other part of this book, titled VACCINATION CONDEMNED, to be published a little later.

If the medical doctors had been as advanced as the drugless doctors, there would not have been those 20 million deaths from the medical flu treatment.

There was seven times more disease among the vaccinated soldiers than among the unvaccinated civilians, and the diseases were those they had been vaccinated against. One soldier who had returned from overseas in 1912 told me that the army hospitals were filled with cases of infantile paralysis and he wondered why grown men should have an infant disease. Now, we know that paralysis is a common after-effect of vaccine poisoning. Those at home didn’t get the paralysis until after the world-wide vaccination campaign in 1918.

They accused Jeremiah of being negative and threw him in a well to shut him up, so I don't expect much different treatment.

I can do you one better.
I'd recommend apple cider vinegar and a spoonful of honey with some Thieves Oil mixed in.
That should knock out just about any virus.

Unless you foolishly bypass your natural immune system and INJECT it directly into your bloodstream.

Then you just need to start detoxing BIG TIME.

What in the world is wrong with you? As a parent she can make her own decisions as to whether to have herself or her child vaccinated. To provide her further info, sites is great, but to take it to the extreme and say she's dumbed down really makes you look pretty damn dumb not her. You have the freedom and the right to speak, make informed decisions and chose what to do onto you and yours, not force your believes, info or ideas onto another.

Pretty damned rude and uncalled for

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It is the official agenda of our education system: to produce worker bees for the New World Order.

I'm sorry, but they have succeeded.

So call it whatever you want to, I call it reality.

I'd rather offend someone in hopes they wake up than let them walk into a snare.

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"The proud have hidden a trap for me, and cords; They have spread a net by the wayside; They have set snares for me." Selah.

600 deaths, but what about all the auto-immune diseases caused by them. It's impossible to calculate, but probably MUCH more than 35,000.

You'll notice that this woman didn't die, but maybe it'd be better for her if she did. I wouldn't want to go through life in her condition.

Does anyone remember the 1976 debacle?

Apparantly you haven't done very good research.

Have you checked out www.thinktwice.com, www.mercola.com
google dr gary null (he has an ongoing lawsuit against the state of New York for forcing medical workers to vaccinate)

and dr sherri tenpenny (one of worlds leading experts)

Hasn't ANYBODY heard of their God-given NATURAL immune system??????
Eat more garlic, fruit, veggies.

I'd go one step further than saying you are dumbed-down and accuse you of IDOLATRY for worshipping at the alter of the False God of Pharmekia instead of following your Father who has provided all you need for health and wellness.

You are the coward for not taking the time to figure out what this war is really all about.

You don't even make any sense. Taking our taxpayer money? Is that what you imply? They are getting a widow mite for what they are asked to do. Blackwater security gets 3-4 times what they make.

You didn't read that the guy is trying to save his family from being homeless. And then he loses his son. And gets tortured for it?

No wonder this country is in such bad shape with the likes of citizens like you.

I assume you are making fun of the rumors of forced vaccination?

They dont' need to do it yet because the dumbed down public is going to march right into the slaughterhouse. As you can see by most of the responses here except for 2.

Many wonder why the Jews got on the trains to the death camps?

Don't need to wonder any more.