Ridicously sounds logical Redykeulous!

What about that bush man that never heard of a Jesus or bible. He lives a good life not harming anyone and enjoys his children and wife. He has no cause or effect. What will God do with him? Will he contemplate and roll a six sided dice to see if he can go to his kingdom?

What about the agnostics who are not sure about it all. Are dice thrown for them also? Lol

Come on seriously!

but wait there is more news for you....

God isn't powerful enough to save everyone, so only the "chosen few" make it in. The Jehovah's Witnesses have set the number at 144,000 people, and that's it. Only Christians get in, and then it's limited to only "True Christians". A True Christian is your personal flavor of Christianity and most all other Christians are not really Christians, but are really working for the Devil. Satan seems to have more influence here than God does. Satan is some fallen angle who somehow suckered God way back when and got power. I guess someone stupid enough to believe a death bed conversion can fall for anything, and isn't very bright. So Satan is misleading all but the chosen few who are True Christians and are going to Heaven.

This creates a dilemma. With all the flavors of Christianity out there, how does a person find the True Christians? I guess you're supposed to "know it in your heart" but there are a lot of Christians out there who are listening to God speak to their heart and getting a lot of conflicting information. God is having a hard time getting his story consistent it would seem, or, you have Satan out there pretending to be God and if you are fooled, God is going to punish you. Remember, God is one seriously pissed off dude and has no room for error!

So, unlike other religions, like Wiccans and Buddhists, Christians believe that Gods has chosen them and therefore they are better than everyone. And because of that, they have no respect for anything other than their own limited and narrow perception of the world as their particular flavor of Christianity sees it.

So folks get your ticket to heaven fast. You better believe without asking questions....yes that would be heresy to question the bible...wow am I glad I don't live in the 1700s right!

Yes get your tickets now to that heavenly staircase to heaven. Repent now, admit your failures, kneel down and beg for forgiveness and try to be rescued and saved!

poppop33 posted from his one of the 32,000 denominations bible:

2. The Bible was written by some 40 different men over a period of 1,600 years, beginning in 1513 B.C.E. It is made up of 66 little books. Those who wrote the Bible were inspired by God. They wrote his thoughts, not their own. So God in heaven, not any human on earth, is the Author of the Bible.—2 Timothy 3:16, 17; 2 Peter 1:20, 21.


The bible was actually inspired by 40 different men that used their fantasy and imagination when looking for water in the desert. These desert nomads were unhappy that they had no wine and ladies around them at the time. What do you expect them to write? Something enjoyable and great for everyone to believe no. They were writing their frustrations of their current situations. lol

Written by 40 different men!

Over a period of 1,600 years!

Just think about it for a moment. Adding more fairy tales every hundred years of supernatural events, wars, torture, harsh punishments, fear, and anxiety. How can you believe any of the stories to be realistic. It does make a great fantasy novel between good versus evil. I mean with the computer graphics today we have alot of movies because of it.

Hopefully the people that had the prom will come to mine outside and we just have one big block party. And the school principal will be all alone on the other side realizing what she did wrong.

Christianity is as much based on culture as it is on dogma. Christian culture is rooted in the belief that you're better than everyone else. That because Christians are forgiven, they are "washed in the blood of the lamb". They are chosen, going to Heaven, while the rest of us are going to burn in Hell. Christians are "morally superior" to the rest of us because "God is on their side" and the rest of us are "tools of Satan" we are "unclean" and we are "evil" while they are "clean" and "good". They believe the bottom line is, "we're good, they're evil" and therefore the rest of us are below subhuman heathens. And they will tell you this to your face. And it's ok if they do it, but is someone says that "Christianity is a cult for weak minded people" -- My God! You're persecuting Christ!

Since Christians are the chosen ones and they speak for God, then what they believe defines what it "moral" and what is "immoral". This having little to do with actual ethics, but there is some overlap. Murder is generally considered a bad thing in all cultures. Atheists and Realists agree with that. But sex is considered immoral outside the context of Christian marriage, an in the case of Catholics, outside the context of reproduction. Sex is not a form of amusement to Catholics and is look upon as a necessary evil to repopulate the planet. Birth control is also considered a sin to many Christian cults. Christian fail to realize that if sex were limited to the context of Christianity, the human race would have become extinct, which would however eliminate sin and keep God from getting pissed off.

Christian go to church mostly for the purpose of reinforcing their beliefs in their own self-righteousness and moral superiority. There they can show off their "faith" in front of their fellow worshipers and participate in cult membership rituals so that they can feel secure that they are an accepted member of their tribe. It allows them to reaffirm their beliefs through mutual ego masturbation, where members reaffirm to each other that they are God's chosen few. People speak in gibberish (tongues) and tell stories of miracles that never happen. It's pretty scary stuff when you realize that these people a really sharing a mass mental illness ritual that is further separating them from the real world and causing them to believe things and behave in ways that have no basis in reality whatsoever.

Christianity perhaps would have had a totally different story if Jesus would have survived at a older age and had the opportunity to write his experiences himself. Perhaps then we would see that he was actually following a more peaceful movement then what the writer's after his death at the time wrote to save the old testament at the time.

Wherever the security draws the line I will stop and dance and have a great time. The cameras will be on seeing how far we can go to enjoy a special day.

and to add to that....

Then there's this Jesus guy who's supposed to be "God's Son", born of a virgin, because sex is something evil like cowboy has been debating with on the other site, and he's here to cut a deal to get you around his dad's wrath. God has an anger problem you see, and so he has to sacrifice his own kid to appease himself so that he doesn't have to torture people he created forever in Hell. So, Jesus has to die on the Cross for your sins, but then he's resurrected, so he's not really dead anymore. And now he's "paid the price" so those who "believe" in him will not fry in Hell like the rest of us.

Even though God created the universe and created billions of us, and he's all powerful and all knowing, he seems to have an identity problem and is so insecure that he needs us to worship him. Kind of like a kid shaking his fist over and ant colony demanding to be worshiped and obeyed, but on a much larger scale. God loves us, but needs to punish us, unless we worship him. It's like God is some southern hick child abuser or something. Maybe we should call family services on God for child abuse? Anyhow, Christians believe God has a God sized ego problem and needs us to worship him or he throws fits like destroying the world and such. God doesn't seem to have much control over his behavior and often is controlled by his own strong emotions. Wait but didn't a previous religion do that also...Oh yes the ancient Greek religion...wait wait! It is called mythology! Christianity really needs to go to that vault also and be called Christian Mythology.

but let us continue...

God doesn't seem to really care much about what you do, but in what you believe in. It's "faith" not "works" that impress God. So, a mass murder who gets "saved" during his lethal injection will go to Heaven, but the Dalai Lama is going to burn in Hell. So, you can be bad all your life and change at the last minute and get into Heaven. Christians obviously think God is pretty stupid and will fall for something like that. Actually, they don't "think" that because you're not supposed to think. you got to "have faith" to believe something that stupid. Faith is the belief in something that has no basis in logic or reason.

The bottom line is, Christianity is about the fear of going to Hell. They say it's about "love" to, but hey, people who love you don't torture you in Hell forever, so I'm not buying the "he loves you" crap. And even though God created the universe, he's just not very good with money, and he needs you to give him your cash. God was a lot more out there in ancient times than he is today. God likes to work behind the screens, being the invisible guy in the sky, and let the churches do his work. He doesn't talk directly, so he need babbling nut cases to speak for him, (in tongues), with another nut case interpreting it. God is rather impotent these days and is authority seems to be limited to getting even with you after you're dead. So God needs his army of Christian Soldiers to do his work for him.

The core of Christian belief is based on the idea that everyone has sinned, and because you have done anything wrong that God will punish you by burning you with fire, or otherwise torturing you forever. If a 5 year old tells a lie and then dies, God will burn that kid in Hell forever.Out here in the real world, if someone behaved like God supposedly does, that person would be severely mentally deranged. We put people who behave like God in jail or mental institutions. In fact, many people are locked up every year for imitating the "Wrath of God".

It is you that needs to go reread the bible and see what it is.

and I say AMEN to that ********. lol

Well there you go as I have mentioned a few days back it was a political stunt to boost his approval ratings when the news was flooded throughout the internet.

Somehow I have the feeling Pakistan knew where Osama Bin Laden was the whole time. I am surprised they didn't do anything until the US found out. Would that really be cooperation on their behalf?

Something fishy about this all....

And he is probably getting a small royalty check from the sales also.

If I was him I would still go to the prom with my girl. Let the camera shine on me as I have a good time dancing and drinking. It is my prom and no one will stop me. lol

The truth is that we will never know.

It is that simple.

Let us say Christianity is right. That what the bible says is the words of God. That we have to do all these things asked off to make it to a heaven. That we are sent here for punishment perhaps as sinners and must follow the rules.

And even though we can envision it better as a God, or can't imagine that a God may have flaws such as ordering death to those that are bad, but maybe it is the way it is.

Nothing is perfect. Not even our world. Perhaps not even our God. The last part is hard to believe for Christians...I know! They are already saying impossible. God is perfect and giving us a chance!

Yet we skeptics don't see perfection if a God uses violence to bring his satisfaction to get his required daily obedience.

Since we don't know what is in our afterlife...we create a vision to soothe our souls when the time comes. Of course Christians believe the answer is right there in the book! Right there in black and white! Just read it. So you squeeze your eyeballs on each word and still think...my goodness what is wrong with this God. Why so angry?

For me Buddhism makes more sense, but for the majority in this country Christianity does. What can we do about it nothing? I will remain the minority as a agnostic and I am perfectly happy that I am. It leaves me with more options to explore and exploit ideas and opinions as to being reserved to one subject, which is only the bible.

Let them believe in such a lifestyle and we believe in ours. There is no more we can do about it. Yes we can express our opinions and even debate about it. It is healthy to do so, but I learned that those that really practice with faith a religion then it will always be hard (almost impossible) to convince them to see other possiblities. It just doesn't happen very often, if at all.

At least I can say I have a clean conscience about it all. It is what it is and I feel great about it.

Update on Global Warming 2011 = Bad
Update on Global Warming 2012 = Getting Worse
Update on Global Warming 2013 = Can't breath!
Update on Global Warming 2035 = The 200,000 year old Homo Sapien has finally done it. 50% of the species gone. Shortage of Water, draught, starvation from 1 billion to 5 billion. All time heat index up 7%, Menthane floats in the air..people have to wear gas masks when trotting outside. Diseases with no cures happen, and a post-acoloyptes has begun.

Update on Global Warming 2050 - The End - 5 cockroaches exist on the entire planet. They might reproduce?

That will be it on the scifi channel. Join us next week on the new Buck Rogers series and how the captain manages to save planet Earth from imperial reptilian aliens.

Wow seriously everyone has like over 8000 posts in here. Me with my few hundred (200) am wondering if you guys have a life! ha ha!

Don't tell me you spend the entire day looking in the forums. Am I talking with a bunch of retired folks in here. Just playing! I tend to crack myself up sometimes!

Anyway now I know we have a bunch of Forum Genius's!

Actually that could be signs of a Genius! I do hope that your business will succeed. I really think that is what makes America. The small businesses and the individual ideas and imaginations that make them work!

It is said that Einstein dreamed of what it is like to travel on a beam of light.

This imagination he had gave him ideas...


and the rest is history:)

Nothing is certain for very long. Always new things arrive. Sometimes it takes a decade or even a century. Other times it can be as soon as tommorow. We humans have a hard time waiting don't we! Patience! We will know more unless we have managed to destroy our planet before it can happen then nothing will stop our imagination and knowledge from attaining more ideas that can be certain. Well at least for a little while anyway. :)

Very true!

And there you go folks! We have the answer! ha ha! Good one. :)

Well they all lost!