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Here we go. Homosexuality is not immoral. My children were raised to believe all sexual orientations are normal and okay, be it gay, bi or hetero. My children are all hetero. So letting the poor children know that being gay is okay doesn't brain wash nor does it harm the children in any way. Telling people it is not okay to be gay is harmful. Telling children who are born gay that being gay is wrong is extremely harmful. Gay people need the religious to stop torturing gays with a threat of hell. Gay people need to be able to tell the children on their job that they are gay and have the children understand that it is just as normal as heterosexuality. Until we are fair and just in our treatment of people in this country, the fight will continue and it will be news. Sweeping hatred under the rug is just what the bigots want done so make sure we shout it out when hatred is about. I made a rhyme  Homosexuality is immoral for quite a few reasons. We try to teach our children sexual actions are for reproduction... to try to keep them from just sleeping around with their boyfriends/girlfriends while still in school, and or tell them to wait for marriage. Homosexual sex is purely a physical lustful action. Nothing good comes of it, no reproduction or anything. That is what sex is for, creation. Bull! :o bulls can procreate with homosexual sex? :o Procreation isn't needed anymore. We are over populated, not under populated. So it is bull s h i t! We are not over populated in an entirely worldly view. Yes some city's are over populated. But there is ALOT of room on this planet for more people. 
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Tue 10/19/10 06:56 PM
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" Same as if a teacher with a record of murder or any other immoral action. "
Proof, there it is... |
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"With or without religion, good people will do good things and evil people will do evil things. But, for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." Steven Weinberg So true. That has to be one of the dumbest quotes I have ever heard.Atheist countries like China who have the worst human rights records in history and are only getting worse?  We could talk for years about how much good Christianity has brought the world.The homeless shelters,the food banks,orphanages,feeding people around the world,helping the poor,charity work in every country in the world and asking for nothing in return.Christians have spent more money and more time than any other religion caring for people they have never met. Yet Atheisms role in bettering society and the world has resulted in hundreds of millions dead due to War,genocide,greed,and power. When your looking for answers what does Atheism offer?Nothing. When you are homeless and starving out on the streets what does Atheism offer you?Nothing. When you have questions about where you go after you die what does Atheism offer you?Nothing. Steven Weinberg Awards and Honors Honorary Doctor of Science degrees, University of Chicago, Knox College, City University of New York, University of Rochester, Yale University American Academy of Arts and Sciences, elected 1968 National Academy of Sciences, elected 1972 J. R. Oppenheimer Prize, 1973 Richtmeyer Lecturer of Am. ***'n. of Physics Teachers, 1974 Scott Lecturer, Cavendish Laboratory, 1975 Dannie Heineman Prize for Mathematical Physics, 1977 Silliman Lecturer, Yale University, 1977 Am. Inst. of Physics-U.S. Steel Foundation Science Writing Award, 1977, for authorship of The First Three Minutes (1977) Lauritsen Lecturer, Cal. Tech., 1979 Bethe Lecturer, Cornell Univ., 1979 Elliott Cresson Medal (Franklin Institute), 1979 Nobel Prize in Physics, 1979 Awards and Honors since 1979 Honorary Doctoral degrees, Clark University, City University of New York, Dartmouth College, Weizmann Institute, Clark University, Washington College, Columbia University Elected to American Philosophical Society, Royal Society of London (Foreign Honorary Member), Philosophical Society of Texas Henry Lecturer, Princeton University, 1981 Cherwell-Simon Lecturer, University of Oxford, 1983 Bampton Lecturer, Columbia University, 1983 Einstein Lecturer, Israel Academy of Arts & Sciences, 1984 McDermott Lecturer, University of Dallas, 1985 Hilldale Lecturer, University of Wisconsin, 1985 Clark Lecturer, University of Texas at Dallas, 1986 Brickweede Lecturer, Johns Hopkins University, 1986 Dirac Lecturer, University of Cambridge, 1986 Klein Lecturer, University of Stockholm, 1989 James Madison Medal of Princeton University, 1991 National Medal of Science, 1991 |
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"With or without religion, good people will do good things and evil people will do evil things. But, for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." Steven Weinberg "Become an internationalist and learn to respect all life. Make war on machines. And in particular the sterile machines of corporate death and the robots that guard them." Abbie Hoffman |
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Tue 10/19/10 05:35 PM
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Yeah yeah I know, people hate to look back but if they refuse to then they are (along with us innocents) allowing history to repeat itself. Recent history has sucked. Look at what happened...9-11 then two unjustified and illegal wars later we still feel the sting of bad government. Over 5K of our troops killed, up to and maybe more than a million Arabs. 30K+ of our troops disabled and many thousands more coming home to face homelessness with PTS, addiction and few job opportunities. A bad economy.
I am just connecting the dots here. Only YOU can know if your vote for these GOPers in '00 and '04 was a huge mistake (or god's will)....all we can hope is that you don't get fooled again. Religious leaders like Robertson are always supporting the GOP... with your contributions. Stop paying and praying for disasters already.  Pat Robertson's empire "Who runs the Christian Coalition? "I have in my own, quiet way, been setting the agenda for a long time." — Pat Robertson, The New York Times Magazine, 8/9/98 Who does Pat Robertson support for President in 2000? A Republican, naturally. And it looks like it's Missouri Sen. John Ashcroft, who's been featured and promoted on Robertson's "700 Club" many times. Robertson and his wife Dede have contributed $10,000 to Ashcroft's PAC. On August 15, 1998, Robertson and Ashcroft appeared together at a Florida Christian Coalition "Faith and Family Gala" in Orlando. In 1997, Pat Robertson sold his Family Channel to Rupert Murdoch for $1.9 billion. Now, with the exception of one program, the entire Family Channel schedule has been scrapped to make room for the new Fox Family Channel. Only Pat Robertson's "700 Club" will remain, a part of the deal when the televangelist sold the channel to Murdoch. The objective is to produce programs that families can watch as a group, according to Fox Family executive vice president Maureen Smith, but according to the Focus on the Family's Pastor's Weekly Briefing, the new schedule does not reflect that strategy as much as it does the "Fox attitude." For instance, instead of "Bonanza," viewers will get "Leo-Mania," an unauthorized look at Leonardo DeCaprio. "700 Club" viewers can also catch a Spice Girls concert. Total revenue for the Christian Coalition in 1996 was $26,487,746. Before his departure as its executive director, Ralph Reed earned $196,213 annually. Jeff Baran, executive director of the Christian Coalition of New York, is approaching ministers in the Empire State pitching for funds. He claims that in 1996, the Christian Coalition of New York distributed 2.6 million voter guides through a network of 2,400 churches. He hopes the number will increase significantly this year. © 1998 Institute for First Amendment Studies, Inc. " ~~~ 2006 - How the GOP Became God's Own Party http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/01/AR2006040100004.html 2010 - T-Baggers, Sarah Palin, Christine O'Donnel...pffft. |
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ô¿ô What Would Jesus Drive?
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i know people who repeat what jesus said drive mercedes and rolls royce, why the ones in the pews call taxis And? What? Dude!  Don't confuse them...they are already defending this guy...trying to do so by questioning the messengers ethics. I find it funny anyone would defend this low life. How about this low life? (NOT because she once did porn...but because now she gets on TV and steals people's money). Anyone seen this woman and heard her rap? Incredible...  http://www.flyninja.net/?p=140 |
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"With or without religion, good people will do good things and evil people will do evil things. But, for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
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ô¿ô What Would Jesus Drive?
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So anyway, I work in insurance servicing for home and auto. Yesterday I got a call from an agent to add a vehicle to a policy. Upon questioning for information about the vehicle he made reference to several "special equipment" options the car had. A $2200.00 Audio system, a set of $1300.00 rims , and a $695.00 paint job. Yes we cover exotic paint jobs. It turned out that we did not have to list them as special equipment because he had them factory installed....uh, that's about as high a price you can pay is from the factory on bells and whistles. Total bill? $48,000 on the sticker. Fine I thought then I noticed the policy holder's occupation: Preacher Hey, just a question...Is it ethical to talk about your client's personal information? I know that I would lose my job if I did that. If you aren't sure if it's ethical or not, ask yourself this question: "How would I feel if someone did the same thing to me?" "did the same thing to me"? No, I am not the hyocrite using people's money like preachers do so why would anyone "do the same thing to me"? I in no way gave any information that would lead to my customer's personal information... |
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Seems some people support bullying here as "acceptable" because "everyone gets bullyied" and that is about the most absurd argument I have ever heard on this subject. We've proven that it's mainly the religious that promote the ignorances that lead to hatred and discriminations...and even death.
Notice that they have no references in defense and can only spout thruthiness....in defense of bullying. To be fair..who me?...there are some Christian groups that oppose bullying and are against the evangelicals...but then the RW religious nutbags point at them and say, "yew ain't no real Christian". We have a rather large number of over-the-rainbow people in America. They are Christians first...not Americans first, like me. They abuse their "freedom of religion"...NO respect for humanity and are often used in supporting the Hitlers and Dippics in our history...all we can do is educate and hope. Seems like truth would win out...eventually. |
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Topic:
ô¿ô What Would Jesus Drive?
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Mon 10/18/10 06:16 PM
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So anyway, I work in insurance servicing for home and auto. Yesterday I got a call from an agent to add a vehicle to a policy. Upon questioning for information about the vehicle he made reference to several "special equipment" options the car had. A $2200.00 Audio system, a set of $1300.00 rims , and a $695.00 paint job. Yes we cover exotic paint jobs. It turned out that we did not have to list them as special equipment because he had them factory installed....uh, that's about as high a price you can pay is from the factory on bells and whistles. Total bill? $48,000 on the sticker. Fine I thought then I noticed the policy holder's occupation: Preacher Yo preach! So you take money from your wilting flock. Some of the people that gave you money were probably poor, unemployed, or elderly..and maybe some of your flock have no health care and are suffering? But at least you're riding in style now huh? God bought you a shiny new car! GFY! Oh I’d love to but I can't use the info to look into him....that'd be against my ethics, but I hope he drives his shiny new car up to church and his flock finally wake up. Yeah I know…they never change do they? What would Jesus drive?  Pat Robertson tells how he needs money and he is worth 400 million.. pretty good paying Job for a Profit All it takes is a complete lack of morality and you too can be a rich profit...er...I mean phophet I got the pun the first time That Georgia Preach, Pastor Eddie Long. He drives a Bentley...Jesus musta wanted him to drive his boy toys around in style. "Pastor Eddie Long drives a $350,000 Bentley, bought a $1.1 million home in 2005 and favors gold necklaces and Rolex watches" http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130159112 |
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Back by popular demand:  What's back? Bringing to light how you're a bible-thumping, bigotted, Atheist fundie? (and one who obviously doesn't understand the scriptures he's quoting) Lie and deny...order of the day. These lines from your little bible thing make it obvious that anyone who drinks drug..specifically alcohol (found in "wine and strong drink") is "going to hell". Who is "misunderstanding"...LOL. Dope heads...it's no wonder why so may Thumpers are brain damaged...yall know that alcohol causes brain damage right? No? Really? "Brain damage is a common and potentially severe consequence of long-term, heavy alcohol consumption. Even mild-to-moderate drinking can adversely affect cognitive functioning." http://alcoholism.about.com/od/brain/Brain_Damage_and_Alcohol_Consumption.htm Bigot? Me? Because I don't tolerate ignorance, hypocrisy, and stupidity? Well okay then....LOL. |
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Darwin was extremely insightful. I'm amazed that anyone questions his discoveries, in general. Well I think it's time to erase the confusion about evolution as being a "theory". Sure, in scientific terms this implies truth but like the "Laws of Gravity" it should be regarded as the "Laws of Evolution" by now. beg to differ. Majority of the theory behind so called 'laws of gravity' can be mathmatically derived using simple formulas. Have yet to see a short formula that fits evolution as it is currently propagated. Have you tried dropping a lead weight on your foot lately? As simple a formula as you can get...we know that evolution is true...we're way past that.  |
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Mon 10/18/10 04:38 PM
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cowboy let your god explain gravitational singularity let your god tell me how fast the event horizon around a blackhole is going...did he guess 3,000,000 miles per hour let your god explain how a pulsar is so dense that spoonfuls weight is in the tons let your god explain the theory of relativity by einstien let your god explain that if gravitional singularity wasn't real then how did he become...oh here comes the frat house answers also how come your god can't and didn't answer the most unanswered question ever,other planets? also ask your god how come a proton star collapses on itself then it becomes a blackhole which in a nebula the gases and matter in it become a galaxy let me guess it isn't important as long as we don't question him,but i did and nothing Why would i ask him any of that? None of that is of any importance whatsoever. Gravity is not "of any importance whatsoever"... A song from a real god... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V2yTD1FV4Y |
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Mon 10/18/10 04:30 PM
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Shall I predict that no evidence will be presented to show the correlation with religion? Correlations: An examination of events which highly correlate the so-called Religious Right organizations to Christian values which have created an oppressive and dangerous environment for the youth of today. Let me begin with: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXAQKuBwESc Sarah Silverman – Message To America – On Gay Suicide. Dear, America. When you tell Gay Americans that they can’t serve their country openly, or marry the person that they love, your telling that to kids too. Don’t be ‘f….ingshocked and wonder where all these bullies are coming from that are torching young kids and driving them to kill themselves because they’re different. They learned it from watching you. NOM - National Organization for Marriage Gathering Storm TV Ad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp76ly2_NoI  MAGGIE GALLAGHER FOUNDED NOM IN 2007 In a book entitled “The Abolition of Marriage,” Gallagher equates same-sex marriage with adultery: “…American family law has been rewritten to dilute both the right and the obligations of marriage, while at the same time placing other relationships, from adulterous liaisons to homosexual partnerships, on a legal par with marriage…” June 15, 1998 – Senate Majority Leader, Trent Lott in an interview with radio talk show host Armstrong Williams After answering the question of homosexuality being a sin, Lott said Yeah it is. You should still love that person. You should not try to mistreat them or treat them as outcasts. You should try to show them a way to deal with that problem, just like alcohol, sex addiction, or kleptomanics. There are all kinds of problems, addictions, difficulties, experiences of things that are wrong, but you should try to work with that person to learn to control that problem… The “problem” is inequality, not an addiction, not a disease, or a mental illness. But it is publicized widely in demeaning ways that homosexuality is a ‘problem’ something to be CURED – and a huge religiously funded public campaign promoting so-called "reparative therapy" flooded the media, churches and communities and continues 12 years later. – Can ya feel the love? Also 1998 – Dr. Robert Garofalo, a Boston pediatrician who authored a health study of gay teens last spring, complained to the Boston Globe that the recent ad campaign, was "a complete misrepresentation" of his research on substance abuse and other high-risk behavior. Garofalo told the Globe he believes the disproportionate risk of gay youth for substance abuse and suicide are the result of alienation gay teenagers face in a "culture that is often unaccepting." Religious Right groups attributed the problems to homosexuality itself, which Garofalo calls "the complete opposite conclusion of what the paper actually concluded." An intentional misrepresentation of studies and research has been rampant by church authorities and powerful anti-gay Christian groups. Although the unethical and immoral messages are openly disputed by those whose work has been plagiarized, that is never what Christians remember. The misinformation is continually regurgitating by ‘Christians’ as authoritative support for their prejudicial views, long after its falsehood is proven. The more widely this misinformation is used and promoted by church authorities, the greater the belief that prejudice and discrimination are not only warranted by Christians but a requirement of their doctrine. In 1998 - Christians falsely,and knowing better, “ equated homosexuality with pedophilia. The Family Research Council's Bob Knight falsely asserted that the Employment Non Discrimination Act would extend legal protections to pedophiles. Parents are told that gays and lesbians are out to molest their children. Gay rights groups are falsely accused of supporting legalization of pedophilia, when in fact every major gay organization denounces it as criminal. "...one of the primary goals of the homosexual rights movement is to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the 'prophets' of a new sexual order." - "Homosexual Activists Work to Normalize Sex With Boys," FRC publication, July 1999, http://www.frc.org/misc/bl057.pdf <<<< >>>"homosexuals are included in a list of sinners, who, if unrepentant, will not inherit the kingdom of God." - Family Research Council press release about Matt Shepard's funeral, on the day of the funeral, October 16, 1998, http://www.frc.org/press/101698.html. The release implied that a gay person who had not yet become, or tried to become, an "ex-gay" was "unrepentant."<<<< >>>"Homosexuals have never been forced to sit in the back of the bus. They are as privileged a group as any. To compare their attempts to affirm deviant sexual conduct to the legitimate discrimination claims of true minorities is a sham," said FRC Director of Cultural Studies Robert H. Knight - FRC's CultureFacts, July 28, 1999, http://www.frc.org/culture/cu99g4.html<<< >>>"homosexual behavior is extremely unhealthy, contributing to the spread of AIDS, hepatitis A, B and C and other sexually transmitted diseases….A study of more than 6,400 obituaries in homosexual publications reveals that homosexuals typically have far shorter life spans than the general population. Other reports indicate that homosexuals are more likely to have drug and alcohol abuse problems. It is unfair to force businesses to pay the extra insurance expense and lost productivity that inevitably results from homosexual behavior." [Editors note: the source for this "research" is the discredited Dr. Paul Cameron - see below for extensive information about his extreme beliefs] - Robert Knight, Family Research Council, testifying at ENDA Hearings, July 29, 1994 - committee on Labor and Human Resources, US Senate. Christians today still quote from totally discredited Cameron who even lost his standing with American Psychological Association and his reputation among his peers. A host of Religious Right leaders, including D. James Kennedy, Gary Bauer, James Dobson (Focus on the Family), Beverly LaHaye (Concerned Women for America), Don Wildmon (American Family Association), and Richard Land (Southern Baptists) signed an open letter, printed as a newspaper ad, attacking American Airlines. Gary Bauer's claim that the airline's anti-discrimination policies somehow actively promoted discrimination against religious employees were so ridiculous that the airline's own Christian employees' organization disavowed it. American Airlines officials met with Religious Right leaders but rejected demands that they discontinue marketing to the gay community. Poisonous message In 1997 the Religious Right acted as the single, loudest voice promoting intolerance against gays and lesbians. Religious Right leaders like Pat Robertson (Christian Coalition Founder), Gary Bauer (Family Research Council), Beverly LaHaye (Concerned Women for America), and Jerry Falwell used all the pulpits available to them – including TV, radio, direct mail, and the internet – to spread the poisonous message that hatred of gays and lesbians is not only acceptable, it is required of "godly" people. The Christian Coalition's Randy Tate contributed to the major Christian campaign which continues to embrace the message of “love the sinner, hate the sin”. This campaign message of, ‘love’ but not accept thy neighbor, found refuge with huge portions of Christians who were suffering the effects of cognitive dissonance from previous hate message campaigns. The wide acceptance by Christians emulates to near perfection how church authorities manipulate the masses. Exemplified in the quote below is representation of how ‘love’ and ‘compassion’ can be turned into acceptance and enforcement of discriminatory policy. "I think that as Americans, and particularly as a person of faith, that we need to extend Christian charity to all individuals. That doesn't mean in the public policy realm that we need to extend special privileges to individuals based on their private sexual behavior." — Hardball with Chris Matthews, August 11, 1998 http://www.cwfa.org/articles/19257/MEDIA/family/index.htm Prop 8 Case strikes at the heart of democracy 2010 “Citizens of California voted to uphold marriage because they understood the sacred nature of marriage and that homosexual activists use same-sex ‘marriage’ as a political juggernaut to indoctrinate young children in schools to reject their parent’s values and to harass, sue and punish people who disagree. NOTE OF REFERENCES: I tried to make sure anything other than my own words were placed in quotes and in-text citations privided. If a quote is lacking citation it was one of several that were retrieved from the following: http://www.pfaw.org/media-center/publications/anti-gay-politics-and-the-religious-right Anti-Gay Politics and the Religious Right. A Report by the People For the American Way Foundation I end where I bagan, with what Sarah said so well. Sarah Silverman – Message To America – On Gay Suicide. Dear, America. When you tell Gay Americans that they can’t serve their country openly, or marry the person that they love, your telling that to kids too. Don’t be ‘f….ingshocked and wonder where all these bullies are coming from that are torching young kids and driving them to kill themselves because they’re different. They learned it from watching you. Excellent!, even incredible post Redy - I really like when people link references to support their views...something lacking here. One you posted is further proof of what we are saying: (great find) The replies from people lamely defending HATE are easy to read and ignore, no substance...it's SSDD with these brainwashed hateful morons, but since maybe just maybe some Christians will realize the harm they have caused and stop supporting their leader's hate agendas. (GOPer and T-baggers) I heard Andrew Sullivan on NPR yesterday saying that the GOP "conservatives" are not a party he can relate with anymore..said, "they're religious idealogues"...incredible for him to say this... Anyway: "Anti-Gay Politics and the Religious Right. A Report by the People For the American Way Foundation" http://www.pfaw.org/media-center/publications/anti-gay-politics-and-the-religious-right THE MEMOs "Introduction The recent highly publicized ad campaign by a coalition of fifteen Religious Right organizations is the latest tactical ploy in a long-term political strategy of vilification and political marginalization of gay and lesbian Americans. Far from the campaign of compassion that Religious Right leaders have portrayed, the recent ads further an explicit political agenda that seeks to criminalize gay relationships and deny basic rights to gays and lesbians in a range of critical areas:employment, housing, and families. Anti-gay politics have long been at the core of Religious Right fundraising and organizing efforts. As the Religious Right becomes an increasingly powerful element of the GOP base, anti-gay rhetoric and policies have become more prominent in party platforms, legislative fights, and public policy at local, state, and national levels. Republican Party leaders risk being caught between public support for equal rights for gays and lesbians and the unremitting hostility toward gay rights from Religious Right groups that form the party's core activist base. Congressional leaders' willingness to embrace anti-gay rhetoric and legislation may be part of a strategy to energize Religious Right voters for the fall congressional elections, and it may reflect the longer term impact of the Religious Right's growing strength within the party. Nevertheless, some GOP leaders are concerned that the party's close identification with anti-gay bigotry may cost it support among the general public in the year 2000. This memo briefly analyzes elements of the Religious Right's broader anti-gay political strategy; our staff can provide in-depth information on any of these topics. People For the American Way Foundation has monitored the Religious Right political movement and its attacks on gays and lesbians for nearly two decades. The Andrew Heiskell National Resource Library, which is open to researchers and journalists, has catalogued a wealth of original source material, including Religious Right groups' direct mail and television and radio broadcasts. In addition, People For the American Way Foundation publishes an annual report called Hostile Climate, which extensively documents incidents of institutionalized anti-gay bigotry and discrimination from around the country" More...much much more... http://www.pfaw.org/media-center/publications/anti-gay-politics-and-the-religious-right |
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By Bishop Gene Robinson "Posted: October 15, 2010 02:49 PM How Religion Is Killing Our Most Vulnerable Youth An increasingly popular bumper sticker reads, "Guns Don't Kill People -- RELIGION Kills People!" In light of recent events I would add religion kills young people: gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender young people. Perhaps not directly, though. And religion is certainly not the only source of anti-gay sentiment in the culture. But it's hard to deny that religious voices denouncing LGBT people contribute to the atmosphere in which violence against LGBT people and bullying of LGBT youth can flourish. The news is filled with the tragedies of teenaged boys who were gay and decided to end their living hell by committing suicide. Maybe they weren't even gay, but merely perceived to be by their peers, who harassed, taunted, and threatened them unmercifully. These were real kids with real names. Asher Brown, an eighth grader in Texas, shot himself in the head after endless bullying by classmates and despite attempts by his parents to get school authorities to take his harassment seriously. Seth Walsh hung himself from a tree in his California backyard after relentless bullying by classmates. Asher and Seth were 13-years-old. Billy Lucas, a 15-year-old high school freshman from Indiana, was only perceived to be gay. But the unrelenting bullying ended with him taking his own life. Seven students in one Minnesota school district have taken their own lives, including three teens. With the exception of Brown in Texas these suicides are not happening in Bible Belt regions of the country, where we might predict a greater-than-usual regard for religious thought. Instead, they are occurring in states perceived to be more liberal on LGBT issues: California, Minnesota, New Jersey, and Rhode Island. The case of Tyler Clementi is especially instructive about how far we have to go in accepting our gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender children. Clementi was an 18-year-old freshman at Rutgers University whose roommate secretly filmed a sexual encounter he had with another male student and then posted it on the internet. Think about it. If Tyler had been heterosexual and instead filmed having sex with his girlfriend, it would still be an inappropriate invasion of his privacy and tasteless to post the video online. And it certainly would have been embarrassing for Tyler and the girl. But chances are he would have been the recipient of some congratulatory remarks from friends about what a stud he was. And if he was straight he likely wouldn't have contemplated -- not to mention successfully accomplished -- his own suicide by jumping off the George Washington Bridge. No, Tyler was a victim -- not of an inner disturbance of depression or mental illness--but of an external and in part religiously inspired disdain and hatred of gay people. Despite the progress we're making on achieving equality under the law and acceptance in society for gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people, why this rash of bullying, paired with self-loathing, ending in suicide? With humility and heartfelt repentance I assert that religion -- and its general rejection of homosexuality -- plays a crucial role in this crisis. Religious Right hatemongers and crazies are spewing all sorts of venom and condemnation, all in the name of a loving God. The second-highest-ranking Mormon leader, Boyd K. Packer, recently called same-sex attraction "impure and unnatural" in an act of unspeakable insensitivity at the height of this rash of teen suicides. He declared that it can be cured, and that same-sex unions are morally repugnant and "against God's law and nature." More.... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bishop-gene-robinson/how-religion-is-killing-o_b_764568.html Funny I don't remember how any of these deaths were in any way related to Christianity or members of a church.Blaming Christians for these deaths has nothing to do with anything.What is your big mouth going to say if I told you the people that set up these cameras were Atheist? Tsk,Tsk,Tsk. Ha, they don't need anymore than their faith and their book to cling to. These are cowards who will not face facts..face life. It's overwhelming the hatred that comes from the religious right wing nut-baggery. Just the ignorances are enough to poison a society then their "messengers" who taunt gays and others for the way they were born add to the demise of a civil and just society. I for one will not accept hate groups like churches that preach hate and ignorances that harm people. I also don't accept these "not me" Christians who then turn a blind eye to their leader's words and actions. THIS is how people like Hitler and the Dippic were supported into power...ALL from Christians who think they are doing "god's work". ========================================= Ha, they don't need anymore than their faith and their book to cling to. These are cowards who will not face facts..face life. It's overwhelming the hatred that comes from the religious right wing nut-baggery. Just the ignorances are enough to poison a society then their "messengers" who taunt gays and others for the way they were born add to the demise of a civil and just society. I for one will not accept hate groups like churches that preach hate and ignorances that harm people. I also don't accept these "not me" Christians who then turn a blind eye to their leader's words and actions. THIS is how people like Hitler and the Dippic were supported into power...ALL from Christians who think they are doing "god's work". ============================================= How are we cowards? We're not hiding from anything. You're the one trying to hide from our father. You say we will not face the facts, no my friend it's atheists that will not face the facts. There is no hatred in Christianity. We treat EVERYONE with love and respect regardless of their beliefs or how they behave. And doesn't ignorant mean not knowing of something... hmmm... wouldn't that mean you're the ignorant one? You do not know of the father, which then would say you're the ignorant one. "NOT ME!!!" Who didn't see THAT coming? And PS, I attend a Catholic School, took theology, was raised in a Baptist church...and I have read all the trash that you cherrypick upon and toss on the wall hoping it will stick. It's all in your head...me? I am yet another master of the obvious...that's all it takes to know evolution over a snake oils salesman's words. |
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But I have proof!  I just love this pic of my saviour! |
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Here is a thought about the whole Jesus walking on water thing. this nagged at me for years before I seen something that made me question Jesus walking on water. The sea of Galilee is not that big or deep and has several flood plains around it. When the rains come these flood plains will fill with water but maybe knee deep in places. Now picture the apostles as they were. They were party animals. My money is on this scenario. The Apostles tied a good one on and decided to take a boat to meet Jesus across a rather small lake. They got caught by a storm and were scared and drunk especially considering they knew lightning could strike them at any time. Somewhere in their trip they got near where they were supposed to meet Jesus who probably seen them beached in extremely shallow water freaking out like they were going to die because they were too drunk to realize they were beached. So Jesus wades out in ankle deep water in a rain storm and asks them to get out of the boat and go inside with him. All of the Apostles, "OMG! HE IS WALKING ON WATER! OMG!! SO AM I! WHY?" God's unheard reply, "You stupid azzhole, the water is only ankle deep! that's why!" Apostles, "OMG! Jesus helped us walk on water! Ain't he precious?" God, " "Idiots!" Everyone else, "Really? he did what???" God again,  "!" For one, the only one that walked on the water with Jesus was Peter. And there was no reference of them drinking on the boat, therefore there is no proof nor reason to believe there was. PLEASE! The Apostles were party animals. What do you think they were doing at the last supper? Playing Bingo? Also there is no proof they were not drunk and taking a boat ride. Nice Picture of a Jesus Lizard! Them things are FAST runners. I wanna see Speedy Gonzales and one of these guys race! Key word they WERE party animals. Once they knew Jesus they no longer were for Jesus teaches us that is a sin. Drinking wine here and there isn't a sin as long as you remain in a sober mind. No, wine has a narcotic drug called alcohol in it and it is addictive, and your bible forbids it's use. I've proved that already. I'll revive the thread in case you missed the proof of that fact... |
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seriously scientist have not only proved that atoms are the creators but actually went further to prove subatomic particals build even them and they can break them down even further.the difference between atheist and jesus freaks is atheist have actual people use shovels to dig for the truth,jesus freaks have a book...yet jesus freaks will say"you believe in books also"of course i do cause they actually used a shovel not a book 
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