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Thu 10/21/10 05:51 AM

HUmmm.

Makes the story suspect.

"The victim was first said to have minor wounds but a recent story pointed out that Mt Whittington was close to losing his life with buckshot near his heart, and to boot had a heart attack while in the hospital.

Since Dick Cheney shot him, Harry Whittington's aim has been to move on

"Whittington sweeps a hand up to his dusky face and points near his right eye, then to the right side of his forehead. The eye socket, hairline and hand have birdshot pellets lodged in them, too. If you look closely -- and strangers occasionally sidle up to him to do just that -- the accident's remnants are evident; there's a tiny bump in each spot. "

There is very little possibility that buckshot which hit in the upper (bony) portion of the head (i.e forehead, eye socket and hairline) could have also hit the heart. (there is also little chance that buckshot on the surface in those areas could have 'migrated' to the heart.

Spin is simply another word for lie.

Why must some persist in bringing up such nonsense over and over ad naeusem.



"Nonsense"? "spin"? "lies"? Exactly the defense here...this whole story was covered up...Whittington nearly died from Chainy's stupid actions...yet he will not apologize. He shot the man and DID NOT APOLOGIZE....shows the morals of this man, clearly.

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"The greatest risk facing Harry Whittington, 78, the lawyer shot by Vice President Cheney in a hunting accident, is that a shotgun pellet lodged near his heart could travel elsewhere and cause more damage, doctors said Tuesday.

The pellet apparently migrated to Whittington's heart, causing heart rhythm disturbances and the muscle damage that signals a "silent" heart attack, David Blanchard, emergency room director at Christus Spohn Hospital Corpus Christi-Memorial in Corpus Christi, Texas, told reporters Tuesday in a briefing.

"We knew that he had some birdshot very close to the heart from the get-go," he said. "There's always the risk they can move."

Doctors said it would be riskier to remove the pellet, causing more damage, than to leave it in place in the hope that the body will safely wall it off with scar tissue.

Blanchard said Cheney's shotgun blast peppered Whittington's face, neck and chest with anywhere from a few to 200 pellets, each one less than a tenth of an inch in diameter. Because pellets are small, their location is hard to pinpoint."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-02-14-cheney-whittington_x.htm

"The shotgun sprayed upward of 200 birdshot pellets at Whittington, causing scores of wounds. His facial lacerations were the most dramatically bloody, but the injuries to his neck and chest were the most serious. Four days after being hit, the birdshot near his heart prompted it to beat erratically, forcing him back into the intensive care unit. Doctors said Whittington suffered a mild heart attack; he thinks it was something less, a heart "event."

Still, the injuries were more dire than previously disclosed. Whittington suffered a collapsed lung. He underwent invasive exploratory surgery, as doctors probed his vital organs for signs of damage. The load from Cheney's gun came close to, but didn't damage, the carotid artery in his neck. A rupture could have been fatal, particularly since it took the better part of an hour to transport him from the vast Armstrong ranch to the Kingsville hospital"

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/10/dick_cheneys_shooting_victim_s.html?imw=Y&f=most-viewed-24h10

Now I am owed an apology...lol. If the truth hurts then it only hurts the liars. If Whittington had died DICK would have faced manslaughter charges. The LEAST he could do is APOLOGIZE.




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Wed 10/20/10 07:03 PM







Um, how would a terrorist supporter have gotten into a "Closed Door Meeting" in the first place? Or are you taking liberties with the phrase 'terrorist supporter' to mean anyone who doesn't support George Bush or the Religious Right agenda for America? BTW, does this 'terrorist supporter' have a name?


How did he get there? He was invited, he was in a position of power in Palestine. His name is Nabil Shaath and he is a member of Fatah.


Isn't that interesting? One wonders what would be said if Obama did the same thing...

-Kerry O.


Conservatives would speak out against that meeting, just as they did when it was President Bush, but this time around they would be called racists.



Well, you're a conservative and instead of condemning Bush for holding it, you used it to refute an assertion that Bush's religiosity crossed the line.

I just read in the news today that one of the Tea Party candidates claimed that the First Amendment didn't _really_ have an Establishment clause in it pertinent to religion.

Oooops.


-Kerry O.





Seriously? There wasn't a single truth in his post. You are easily impressed...



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Wed 10/20/10 06:08 PM


Dick Cheney is an arrogant SOB who's unlikely to apologize to anyone for any of the myriad things he's done wrong. Why are you surprised?

And you know him personally?

Like I said before. How do you know he didn't personally apologize to him?


Do we have to know Darth Vadar personally? Geez...and IF the arsehole did apologize it'd been news by now. Let us know when you find it...


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Wed 10/20/10 05:51 PM





Um, how would a terrorist supporter have gotten into a "Closed Door Meeting" in the first place? Or are you taking liberties with the phrase 'terrorist supporter' to mean anyone who doesn't support George Bush or the Religious Right agenda for America? BTW, does this 'terrorist supporter' have a name?


How did he get there? He was invited, he was in a position of power in Palestine. His name is Nabil Shaath and he is a member of Fatah.


Isn't that interesting? One wonders what would be said if Obama did the same thing...

-Kerry O.


Conservatives would speak out against that meeting, just as they did when it was President Bush, but this time around they would be called racists.



Well, you're a conservative and instead of condemning Bush for holding it, you used it to refute an assertion that Bush's religiosity crossed the line.

I just read in the news today that one of the Tea Party candidates claimed that the First Amendment didn't _really_ have an Establishment clause in it pertinent to religion.

Oooops.


-Kerry O.



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Wed 10/20/10 05:39 PM


Tales of the Tea Party By ROSS DOUTHAT

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/18/opinion/18douthat.html


You HAVE to be putting on me man...LOL...you quote a racist to defend recists?

"Shorter Ross Douthat: Europe wasn’t racist enough, and so now they should be worried about the brown hordes. After arguing that European nations should have done more to restrict Muslim immigration, he concludes that while the end of the West is not near, there is still much to be fearful of.

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/12/07/time-to-fire-ross-douthat-round-4095/


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Wed 10/20/10 05:25 PM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Wed 10/20/10 05:27 PM
No no no, not for the wars and the no-bid contracts for his friends but something more easy to admit and apologie for. Yet...Noooooo.

The initial reports were fudged. Mr Whittington was shot by VP Dick Dead-Eye Chainy on a hunting venture...actually they were just driving by a field, got out and opened up on some unsuspecting fowl.

The victim was first said to have minor wounds but a recent story pointed out that Mt Whittington was close to losing his life with buckshot near his heart, and to boot had a heart attack while in the hospital.

Since Dick Cheney shot him, Harry Whittington's aim has been to move on

"Whittington sweeps a hand up to his dusky face and points near his right eye, then to the right side of his forehead. The eye socket, hairline and hand have birdshot pellets lodged in them, too. If you look closely -- and strangers occasionally sidle up to him to do just that -- the accident's remnants are evident; there's a tiny bump in each spot.

Every so often, for months afterward, some of the lead in Whittington's body worked its way to the surface. But many pieces remain too deeply embedded to remove, including one near his heart. At 82, Whittington knows he will live the rest of his days with about 30 pieces of shot inside him. Somehow, he jokes, he can get through a metal detector without causing a commotion.

"For Whittington, the accident was not just physically traumatic but introduced chaos into his orderly life. Reporters camped outside the hospital, where he spent a week in intensive care. Someone posed as a member of the hospital's staff and tried to sneak into his room to take a photo, necessitating a security detail at his door. When he was released a week later, a battered and exhausted Whittington did the apologizing: "My family and I are deeply sorry for all that Vice President Cheney and his family have had to go through this past week."

HE APOLOGIZED TO CHAINY?

How F'ked up is that?

"No one in the vice president's entourage said a word about it publicly until the next morning, when Katharine Armstrong, the daughter of the ranch's owner, spoke with a reporter from a local newspaper. Armstrong blamed Whittington for blundering into Cheney's line of fire, a comment that White House spokesman Scott McClellan repeated later that day. Investigators didn't speak to Cheney until the next morning, and Cheney didn't address the issue in public until four days later. In a TV interview on Fox News back in Washington, he took responsibility for the shooting ("Ultimately, I am the guy who pulled the trigger . . . ") but offered no apologies.

What an arsehole...






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Wed 10/20/10 04:12 PM





Darwin was extremely insightful. I'm amazed that anyone questions his discoveries, in general.


Well I think it's time to erase the confusion about evolution as being a "theory". Sure, in scientific terms this implies truth but like the "Laws of Gravity" it should be regarded as the "Laws of Evolution" by now.



beg to differ.

Majority of the theory behind so called 'laws of gravity' can be mathmatically derived using simple formulas.

Have yet to see a short formula that fits evolution as it is currently propagated.


Have you tried dropping a lead weight on your foot lately? As simple a formula as you can get...we know that evolution is true...we're way past that.





Perhaps one can measure 'evolution' as a species moves from 'here'(1 bc) to 'here' (2010 AD) but that does not explane the decided lack of evolution in the attitudes of humans we still throw rocks at each other (and those 'rocks' have evolved to the point where death comes to millions at the toss of one).


I never said we were evolved...only evolving. Some a lot slower than others.


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Wed 10/20/10 03:49 PM
Ya see this one? It gets weirder.

"The editor of the Alaska Dispatch website was arrested by U.S. Senate candidate Joe Miller's private security guards Sunday as the editor attempted to interview Miller at the end of a public event in an Anchorage school."

http://www.adn.com/2010/10/17/1506223/miller-security-guards-handcuff.html#ixzz12wSqcUWD

They knew who this guy was...he's been at Miller events before.


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Wed 10/20/10 03:09 PM
Who didn't see this coming....it started with the T-Baggers rising up to fight HC reform last year. The WS were recruiting at these events...go figure why they think that was a great place to recruit.



NAACP Issues Report on Links Between Tea Party Factions and "Racist Hate Groups"

"The NAACP today issued a report detailing "the links between certain Tea Party factions and acknowledged racist hate groups in the United States."

"These links should give all patriotic Americans pause," NAACP president and CEO Benjamin Jealous writes in a forward.

Jealous allows that that "the majority of Tea Party supporters are sincere, principled people of good will." He urges "the leadership and members of the Tea Party movement [to] read this report and take additional steps to distance themselves from those Tea Party leaders who espouse racist ideas, advocate violence, or are formally affiliated with white supremacist organizations."

These groups and individuals are out there, and we ignore them at our own peril," Jealous said in a statement before the report was released. "They are speaking at tea party events, recruiting at rallies, and in some cases remain in the tea party leadership itself."

On a conference call in conjunction with the release, Jealous said "we have no problem with the Tea Party existing."

"We do however have a problem when prominent Tea Party members," he continued, "...are allowed to use Tea Party events to recruit people for those white supremacist groups."

The report, which CBS News reviewed in advance of its release, is entitled "Tea Party Nationalism," and it looks at the relationships and differences between six Tea Party groups: FreedomWorks Tea Party, 1776 Tea Party, Tea Party Nation, Tea Party Patriots, ResistNet, and Tea Party Express.

"In these ranks, an abiding obsession with Barack Obama's birth certificate is often a stand-in for the belief that the first black president of the United States is not a 'real American.' Rather than strict adherence to the Constitution, many Tea Partiers are challenging the provision for birthright citizenship found in the Fourteenth Amendment," write authors Devin Burghart and Leonard Zeskind of the Institute for Research & Education on Human Rights, which produced the report for the NAACP.

The authors said research for the report began a year ago when they noticed that the white supremacist group stormfront.org had "started a thread to move into the Tea Party."

A document called "The Tea Party: The Racism Within" details some of the findings, including the fact that James von Brunn, the white supremacist who killed a Holocaust Museum guard last year, posted on Tea Partner Express partner websites.

Other findings include alleged death threats against the president by Mark Williams, former chairman of the Tea Party Express; "Nazi glamorization" by Billy Joe Roper, who is listed as a founder of white nationalist organization White Revolution and a member of the ResistNet Tea Party, for his eulogy for Turner Diaries author William Pierce; and a discussion of the March 20th incident in which members of Congress say they were spat upon and hit with racist slurs during a Tea Party protest. (Many Tea Party sympathizers allege this incident never happened.)

It also offers "profiles of troubling Tea Partiers," including Roan Garcia-Quintana, a South Carolina Tea Party member who the report says belongs to the largest white nationalist group in the country; Karen Pack, a Texas Tea Party member the report says is linked to the Ku Klux Klan; and Clay Douglas, a Tea Party member from Arizona the report says has pushed "militia-style 'New World Order' conspiracies" and "hard core anti-Semitism."

In advance of the report's release, Tea Party Nation founder Judson Phillips told the Kansas City Star it was "typical of this liberal group's smear tactics."

And the Tea Party Express' Sal Russo said that "[t]o attack a grassroots movement of this magnitude with sundry isolated incidents only goes to show the NAACP has abandoned the cause of civil rights for the advancement of liberal Democrat politics."

In July, the NAACP passed a resolution condemning racism in the Tea Party movement. The resolution kicked off a heated rhetorical battle between the NAACP and the movement, which insists it is not racist.

A CBS News poll in April found 52 percent of Tea Party members believe too much has been made of the problems facing black people. Far fewer Americans overall -- 28 percent -- believe as much. Among non-Tea Party whites, the percentage who say too much attention has been paid to the problems of black people is 23 percent.

In the introduction to the report, Jealous writes that moves to hold a "Uni-Tea" rally to promote diversity in the Tea Party movement and other, similar initiatives over the past year have been "welcome first steps."

"They promote diversity and acknowledge the inherent perception problem that plagues the Tea Party: that while many of its leaders are motivated by common conservative budget and governance concerns, for too long they have tolerated others who espouse racism and xenophobia and, in some instances, are formally associated with organizations like the Council of Conservative Citizens--the direct lineal descendant of the White Citizens Council."

On the conference call, Jealous said some politicians are "denying the obvious" by suggesting they are not seeing signs of racism in the Tea Party movement. One of the authors of the report called it "stunning" that many members of the Tea Party caucus in Congress support a bill to repeal birthright citizenship rights contained in the 14th amendment."

The full report can be found here.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20020160-503544.html

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Wed 10/20/10 09:24 AM
"Since I dont have health insurance and pay out of pocket you are barking up the wrong tree with that one arent ya"

Yeah, let's see your out-of-pocket afford for chemo if you get cancer...and I am sure you have enough cash ready for putting you back together at the ER after a wreck....this is funny. You not having HC IS part of the problem. 50 million have no HC and worse there is not enough to pay for prevention of diseases that run HC costs up.

But I know the score, it's NOT about HC, it's about defeating the people who are trying to help us recover from the disasters the GOPers created...and resisting the changes we need to avoid becoming a 3rd world country...well, as far as HC goes WE ARE A 3rd WORLD COUNTRY.

Well to be fair some 3rd world countries have better HC than we do...egads.






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Wed 10/20/10 09:00 AM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Wed 10/20/10 09:15 AM


If "god" blogged he'd make it a sin to get off the topic.pitchfork

"And Jesus said, "For judgement I am come into this world." (John 9:39)
"I came not to judge the world" (John 12:47)

"fix" that one!


These sorts of things can go on forever, so I will only fix this one.

John 9:39 uses the Greek word "Krima" which means "condemnation of wrong, the decision (whether severe or mild) which one passes on the faults of others"

John 12:47 uses the Greek word "Krino", which means "to separate, put asunder, to pick out, select, choose"

So what Jesus is saying in John 9:39 is that he is going to pass judgment on behaviors. And in John 12:47, Jesus is saying that he hasn't come to judge people, he has come to save them. Basically, Jesus' life was dedicated to pointing out the right path, he didn't come to condemn people to hell or raise them to heaven. There are a few notable exceptions, but they are the exceptions, not the rule.

As a note, almost every contradiction in the Bible disappears when you go back to the original language.


You did not fix anything and if you'd like to go back to the "original word" then I'll open up that can-o-worms from Leviticus...want that?

It's these nonsensical and contradictory things said in this fairytale book that the Thumpers read that make them ignorant and hateful...religions is a ball and chain on the brain of too may people...

Your puzzle will never fit no matter how much you trim the pieces...




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Wed 10/20/10 08:51 AM
Rush, married 4 times and was caught doctor shopping....when the RW Nutbaggery start quoting people with morals and ethics then maybe their words may mean something.




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Wed 10/20/10 08:47 AM


"Congress cannot establish a state religion"

Thanks...oh and how about this you've probably never read:

Article VI of the US Constitution:

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

So quit asking a candidate what religion they are


Ummm... Okay, but only if you will quit changing the subject by making unfounded accusations against me.

...why would that matter anyway except to people who can only make decisions based one ONE book. The woman IS an idiot...a con...six months ago she was paying her apartment rent with campaign donations...that's a FELONY.


I think that a judge will decide that. And it's actually perfectly legal to use campaign funds to pay your a campaign office and her office was in her apartment, so it's not clear to me that any laws were broken.


"The federal campaign finance laws and regulations are quite specific about certain things, including the prohibition that campaign funds may not be used for a candidate’s “personal use.” 2 U.S.C. §439a(b). “Personal use” is defined to include expenditures for (i) household food items and supplies, (ii) clothing, other than items of de minimus value such as campaign t-shirts, and (iii) mortgage, rent, and utility payments for the personal residence of the candidate. 11 CFR 113.1.

O’Donnell’s attempt to avoid these limitations by claiming her apartment is her campaign headquarters is precisely the sort of sham that the FEC regulations were designed to address. Expenses related to a candidate’s personal residence are not proper campaign expenses. Period. There is no exception for having the “headquarters” at the residence."

http://www.delawaretomorrow.com/is-christine-odonnells-home-office-a-violation-of-campaign-finance-law/











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Wed 10/20/10 08:26 AM


That's absolutely a lie.

She's an idiot...and worse are people who think there's no S of C&S. When she said that there's no separation the crowd laughed at her then she acted like they were laughing at her opponent.



Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof


Congress cannot establish a state religion or prohibit the free exercise of religion. There is absolutely nothing in the first amendment that calls for the "separation of church and state". A city that wants to celebrate a religious holiday has that right under the Constitution, so long as that celebration is not mandatory.


"Congress cannot establish a state religion"

Thanks...oh and how about this you've probably never read:

Article VI of the US Constitution:

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

So quit asking a candidate what religion they are...why would that matter anyway except to people who can only make decisions based one ONE book. The woman IS an idiot...a con...six months ago she was paying her apartment rent with campaign donations...that's a FELONY.


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Wed 10/20/10 08:17 AM


Funny, originally the T-baggers were invented by Big Insurance and Big Pharma to defeat the Health Care bill. They were in many cases paid to be at the rallys. Others just blindly followed along because they hate the black man in the White House.

The T-baggers have no plans other than let it all rot. Let America fail, "take back America" means, "Let's go back to the people who caused the problems".

Looks like their quest to stop the progress of restoring our economy is being outed as a bad idea when other corporations take a look at the pending results of that. OOPS.

"Stupid is as stupid does"

"Business leaders began trying to direct the parade as well. A libertarian nonprofit called FreedomWorks, which grew out of Citizens for a Sound Economy, a group founded in 1984 by billionaires Charles and David Koch — the brothers who control Wichita-based petroleum conglomerate Koch Industries, the second-largest privately held company in the U.S., according to Forbes — had been holding annual antitax rallies throughout the 1990s with little to show for it. Now a true grassroots movement was spreading, and FreedomWorks wanted to channel it."

"FreedomWorks says it plans to spend $10 million turning local Tea Party chapters into political machines. The group is steering funds into tools that help local groups organize, such as campaign flyers and signs, a phone system that lets volunteers across the country make calls for candidates from their computers, and an online mapping system to target likely voters"

T-baggers are voting against their own best interest...

"Stupid is as stupid does"





Really he is black? I thought he was half white and half black........whats your point that the whole reason everyone is against his policies is bcs he is half black give me a break.........all nationalities have prejudice amongst them, but not everyone is against him because of his race. I do not want health care reform, I dont want to pay for peoples health care...I dont......and I do not think government should control business or the possibilty of grasping the American Dream......your right stupid is as stupid does and making everyone pay for those that dont want to succeed is definitely stupid.......


Yeah screw the 50 million who have no HC...and yes "all nationalities have prejudice amongst them" but not all of them have their own political party that uses ignorant morons to prop up their racist party.

Did any of you know that 20% of your insurance premiums pay to aide the uninsured? SOOOO, you're paying ANYWAY...egads, the level of debate here is absent even a moderate level of knowledge.


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Wed 10/20/10 08:10 AM


Well, you're a conservative and instead of condemning Bush for holding it, you used it to refute an assertion that Bush's religiosity crossed the line.


So...you think I should condemn President Bush for something he didn't say? Sorry, not going to happen. You want me to say meeting with Fatah to try to negotiate peace in the Middle East was stupid? Certainly, it was. Very much so. President Bush made many such blunders.


I just read in the news today that one of the Tea Party candidates claimed that the First Amendment didn't _really_ have an Establishment clause in it pertinent to religion.

Oooops.


-Kerry O.



Yeah, O'Donnell from Delaware. She didn't say that the first amendment didn't have an establishment clause. What she said was that "Seperation of church and state" wasn't part of the first amendment. That's absolutely true. The 1st Amendment prevents the Congress from establishing a state religion, it doesn't prevent prayer groups in school or nativity scenes on the town square. If the majority of the people in an area want to use public land or schools for that purpose, that is their right...or at least it should be.


That's absolutely a lie.

She's an idiot...and worse are people who think there's no S of C&S. When she said that there's no separation the crowd laughed at her then she acted like they were laughing at her opponent.

Christine O'Donnell ignorant of the Constitution

Watch the whole thing or for this issue start at 2:40...unbelieveable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miwSljJAzqg

"evolution is a theory"....LOL...she does not even know the difference between pop theory and scientific theory...This woman IS an idiot.



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Wed 10/20/10 07:54 AM
Funny, originally the T-baggers were invented by Big Insurance and Big Pharma to defeat the Health Care bill. They were in many cases paid to be at the rallys. Others just blindly followed along because they hate the black man in the White House.

The T-baggers have no plans other than let it all rot. Let America fail, "take back America" means, "Let's go back to the people who caused the problems".

Looks like their quest to stop the progress of restoring our economy is being outed as a bad idea when other corporations take a look at the pending results of that. OOPS.

"Stupid is as stupid does"

"Business leaders began trying to direct the parade as well. A libertarian nonprofit called FreedomWorks, which grew out of Citizens for a Sound Economy, a group founded in 1984 by billionaires Charles and David Koch — the brothers who control Wichita-based petroleum conglomerate Koch Industries, the second-largest privately held company in the U.S., according to Forbes — had been holding annual antitax rallies throughout the 1990s with little to show for it. Now a true grassroots movement was spreading, and FreedomWorks wanted to channel it."

"FreedomWorks says it plans to spend $10 million turning local Tea Party chapters into political machines. The group is steering funds into tools that help local groups organize, such as campaign flyers and signs, a phone system that lets volunteers across the country make calls for candidates from their computers, and an online mapping system to target likely voters"

T-baggers are voting against their own best interest...

"Stupid is as stupid does"




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Wed 10/20/10 07:33 AM

You Atheist are a work of art.Blabbing away every chance you get how evil the Christians are yet start a topic like this to insult,smear,and spew hate towards Pat Robertson.

Gotta love you two face double standards.I think I will pass up the opportunity to call Pat Robertson names like Nazi,Bozo,stupid,moron,etc,etc,etc,.I'm sure the you will get around to it along with calling the Sarah palin a stupid dumb whore.

Perhaps tomorrow you can start another post and call it something like "Dumb,stupid,miserable,idiot,Christian fell down stairs and broke his nose,ha,ha,ha!"Then you can sit back with a smile and tell me how hateful the Christians are towards society.


I never called Robertson a Nazi...but let's let his own words speak for themselves.

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history." –Pat Robertson

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." –Pat Robertson

"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period." –Pat Robertson

"It may be a blessing in disguise. ... Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it. Haitians were originally under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon the third, or whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, we will serve you if you will get us free from the French. True story. And so, the devil said, okay it's a deal. Ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other." –Pat Robertson, on the earthquake in Haiti that destroyed the capital and killed tens of thousands of people, Jan. 13, 2010

Why do Christians give money to this man to represent them?




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Wed 10/20/10 07:03 AM




NOONE is born homosexual or heterosexual as we get older we decide what our preference is



If that was true you would probably have a 50%/50% change being born gay or straight much like you have a 50%/50% chance being born male or female.We would also have to assume the animals are in the same scenario.Yet considering a very small minority in this country is gay I find this logic extremely flawed.There has never been any proof anyone was born gay.
when an infant comes out of his mothers womb,does it right then and there decide it's gay or not?does it right then and there decide it's racist?does it decide right then and there it's atheist or religious?how can anyone claim an infant makes any choice at birth?



Everyone is born straight.Nobody is born gay.



Proof, there it is....proof, there it is.

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Tue 10/19/10 07:30 PM






wouldn't homosexual sex fall in the catagory of population control?


When rules and laws are made it isn't for the beneficiary of one person. It is a benefit for the entire population. Homosexual is against God's law for it isn't beneficiary in the simple fact sexual actions is for creation, creation, and oh yeah creation. Sex is for nothing more then gaining more population and making a family. Homosexuality benefits NOTHING.


Not true.


How does it benefit the world as a whole? Not individual benefits, but benefits for the entire planet?


The same benefits as a heterosexual or bi sexual relationship does.

People loving and enjoying their life together, raising children, whatever. All relationships can do the same exact things together.


No, there is no creation in homosexual sex, so not the exact benefits of heterosexual sex. Sex is purely for creation. Other use then that it is lust, lustful desires, ect.


Hey Mr Science...why did your little god fellow make 10% of the animal kingdom gay?

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