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Would wisdom that has a chain around it's neck learn 12 steps to make one able to live with a chain, or would one simply remove the chain from around it's neck......the very reason many of my friends have failed over and over again and became addicted to other things, even several the 12 steps themselves!!! And none within the 12 step program are told that they have what they need within, but told to look to a higher power, when the higher power is within....themselves!!! not a higher power in the sky.....most are bible believeing and even the bible say any religion close the mind, as it always says to look here or there, but never says you were perfect to begin with and something convinced you you were not and why you became addicted and become easily offended to anything more than what was known yesterday....but any that drink of total truth that is within each never wish again, EVER, and nothing can ever control again, PERIOD....nothing can control less it was FIRST thought to be evil or bad at the root or beginning.....if a tree becomes diseased, would one treat with sprays and 12 steps or would it be better if one knew what caused the disease to start with to REMOVE it from the tree all together....the subconcience of each has the power to create and travel like a thought, and we would be told to stay and try to learn to wear a chain.....the true test of the WHOLE truth is if each be FREE.....to never have to think again of something is free, not to always be on gaurd for to loose your life again....many told me i needed twelve steps and they did not work, for they only treated a symptom, but not until one told me the WHOLE truth did i ever come to a place that nothing tied me to fear which is to be controlled....but indeed, it was first the knowlegde of the 12 steps that made me KNOW there had to be something more....there is great comfort I admit and many friends I have from there till this day, but for one that want total freedom to live as a youth again it is possible easily.....tell one that be adicted to sex to abstain from sex is the answer and the addiction become all the greater.....there is no thing that when it know the reason for its own personal addiction that can ever be addicted again to anything, as the thing that held power over is GONE, not learned to deal with and not worn around the neck as a prize. I care about the feelings of others and wish to offend no one, but i care more about the freedom and happiness of others than to base what i will say on fear that something easily offended will be stirred to emotion.....if one be IN control rather than controlled by all, what other human can bring out any emotion that not be in total control? I think I finally get what you're saying, cuz I was really not following you the other day. And through all I've been through with my weigth loss of 170lbs. I must say I see where you're coming from and yet I'm a firm believer in God. Let me explain. I got to the root of the problem of why I became extremely overwt. by looking at the why, when, how much, etc.... am I eating this????? Looked at the horrible phys. complications that I had gained (diabetes, hi bp, colest., triglyc., endemic, you name it.... 12 medications/day). MY BELIEF IN GOD helped me to trust that I had the strength in Him and He gave me the strength within by showing me HIS love, and helped me to LOVE MYSELF again, to the point where I WANTED TO LIVE..... I was extremely suicidal (tried sev. x's to end it). It was through GOD bringing to me a complete stranger to tell me that they knew I tried to kill myself and how God had stopped her from killing herself via a miracle just months prior. He showed me the route inwhich I was to go to use as a tool to lose the weight, and to then look at the reasons I gained the wt. and to deal with them. I can proudly say that through God's help, and love, and the strength that God gave, and enabled me to find within myself that I've only gained 4 lbs. in the 4 yrs. since I've had the gastric bypass and had lost 170 lbs.!!!! PRAISE GOD!!! |
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" " there are many addictions that most people don't think about. eating disorders are addictions as well You are so right my friend and I would say that a eating disorder is more trickier because a person has got to eat thefore cannot abstain completly where a alcoholic or a addict just has to avoid the first one. Please continue to post and I for one hope you get the help that you or someone you know needs. Take special care because you are special. 
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" " there are many addictions that most people don't think about. eating disorders are addictions as well You are so right my friend and I would say that a eating disorder is more trickier because a person has got to eat thefore cannot abstain completly where a alcoholic or a addict just has to avoid the first one. Please continue to post and I for one hope you get the help that you or someone you know needs. Take special care because you are special. I assure you it is just as hard to over come as drug or alcohol addiction. I've never had an addiction to those 2 but I can feel for the people in this forum. Anyone that wins over an addiction is a hero winning a big battle 
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I have a sex addixtion.
No really. |
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" " there are many addictions that most people don't think about. eating disorders are addictions as well You are so right my friend and I would say that a eating disorder is more trickier because a person has got to eat thefore cannot abstain completly where a alcoholic or a addict just has to avoid the first one. Please continue to post and I for one hope you get the help that you or someone you know needs. Take special care because you are special. I assure you it is just as hard to over come as drug or alcohol addiction. I've never had an addiction to those 2 but I can feel for the people in this forum. Anyone that wins over an addiction is a hero winning a big battle I agree with you whole heartedly because I know if I went and tried to have 2 or 3 beers I would be off and running again, but people with eating disorders have to eat to live therefore they cannot stay away completly , It would be like trying to make a social drinker out of me. My hat goes off to anyone that has overcome this destructive addiction. |
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Hi: I would like to talk about addiction be it alcoholic ao drugs. I myself grew up in a aloholic home and by the age of 2 I was hospitalized because of a skipping rope beating from my mother who was a alcoholic,she died by the age of 58. I stuck the first needle in my arm at age 15 and became alcoholic by the age of 19. I continued to do drugs and alcohol off and on til about a little over 2 months ago and this time I really want to continue with my sobriety. The book says "that probably no human power could have relieved my alcoholism but God could and would if He were sought. This is why for me there is a God because I have seen many miracles along the way. I ended up getting my social work degree and have worked in detox and before that I volunteered there cleaning rooms and socializing with other drunks. So I would like to hear from anyone who wishes to post something with your views on this subject. Thanks I think you did it man..not god. Good job! Sorry my friend I will have to disagree with you there. I will be in real trouble if I start taking the credit for God,s grace . We alcoholics or addicts cannot afford this its called EGO edgeing God out.
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Hi: I would like to talk about addiction be it alcoholic ao drugs. I myself grew up in a aloholic home and by the age of 2 I was hospitalized because of a skipping rope beating from my mother who was a alcoholic,she died by the age of 58. I stuck the first needle in my arm at age 15 and became alcoholic by the age of 19. I continued to do drugs and alcohol off and on til about a little over 2 months ago and this time I really want to continue with my sobriety. The book says "that probably no human power could have relieved my alcoholism but God could and would if He were sought. This is why for me there is a God because I have seen many miracles along the way. I ended up getting my social work degree and have worked in detox and before that I volunteered there cleaning rooms and socializing with other drunks. So I would like to hear from anyone who wishes to post something with your views on this subject. Thanks I think you did it man..not god. Good job! Sorry my friend I will have to disagree with you there. I will be in real trouble if I start taking the credit for God,s grace . We alcoholics or addicts cannot afford this its called EGO edgeing God out. Amen to that Jon. How are ya hun.
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" " I have a sex addixtion. No really. Then I guess I will ask what are you willing to do in order to recover from this addiction?
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ty for listening jon. i feel silly posting about that, but i do feel myself slipping back into it. I almost died 3 years ago from anorexia and bulemia at the same time. I'm 5'7 and got down to under 100 lbs
I admire those that are overcoming their addictions in here and wish everyone the best |
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" " ty for listening jon. i feel silly posting about that, but i do feel myself slipping back into it. I almost died 3 years ago from anorexia and bulemia at the same time. I'm 5'7 and got down to under 100 lbs I admire those that are overcoming their addictions in here and wish everyone the best Please do not feel silly posting about your disease rose as we are all here to listen and try and offer suggestions to help I admire your courage for telling us about it. Please seek help wherever you can because you need to be well and healthy because others need to hear your story in order for them to have a chance at life also.
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Hi: I would like to talk about addiction be it alcoholic ao drugs. I myself grew up in a aloholic home and by the age of 2 I was hospitalized because of a skipping rope beating from my mother who was a alcoholic,she died by the age of 58. I stuck the first needle in my arm at age 15 and became alcoholic by the age of 19. I continued to do drugs and alcohol off and on til about a little over 2 months ago and this time I really want to continue with my sobriety. The book says "that probably no human power could have relieved my alcoholism but God could and would if He were sought. This is why for me there is a God because I have seen many miracles along the way. I ended up getting my social work degree and have worked in detox and before that I volunteered there cleaning rooms and socializing with other drunks. So I would like to hear from anyone who wishes to post something with your views on this subject. Thanks I think you did it man..not god. Good job! Sorry my friend I will have to disagree with you there. I will be in real trouble if I start taking the credit for God,s grace . We alcoholics or addicts cannot afford this its called EGO edgeing God out. Amen to that Jon. How are ya hun. Hey I have been good started a new job and still clean and sober and life is getting better how have you been its nice to see you again
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Thought I would drop in and say hi before work hope everyone had a nice weekend. Will talk more tonight goodbe and have a great Sunday.
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keep up the great work! You are an inspiration to others in similar situations!
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Edited by
Winx
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Sun 03/02/08 11:24 AM
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Yesterday I took a friend to an open NA meeting. He had been in rehab for 7 weeks and now is in a half-way house. At the meeting he received his 30 day, 60 day, and 90 day key chains.
The caring in that room was awesome. I don't have an addiction problem but it feels theraputic for me in that room. The topics they discuss can be applied to everyday life for anybody. I feel better and more relaxed after the meetings. One day at a time people!  |
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I agree with you, Winx. I got the pleasure of going to an Emotional Anonymous group once. A lot of support groups have been patterned after the original Alcoholics Anonymous format. It is a sound format and has came a long way itself from the original Oxford groups. The basic premise can be adapted to many support groups. I can remember feeling the love in the group, i.e., the smiles and handshakes. It was my first dealing with the traditions of 'principles over personalities' and the concept of 'attraction rather than promotion'. Although, at that time I was still very much into denial it would have been hard for me not to believe that like I was told it was a better design for living rather just surviving like I was from day to day.
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I saw this today and liked it:
Happy Moments, Praise God Difficult Moments, Seek God Quiet Moments, Worship God Painful Moments, Trust God Every Moment, Thank God DON'T PICK UP, NO MATTER WHAT!!! |
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Edited by
Bearsman
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Tue 03/04/08 09:03 PM
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I saw this today and liked it: Happy Moments, Praise God Difficult Moments, Seek God Quiet Moments, Worship God Painful Moments, Trust God Every Moment, Thank God DON'T PICK UP, NO MATTER WHAT!!! Very Nice, Dibby Winx Fiddy 
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I saw this today and liked it: Happy Moments, Praise God Difficult Moments, Seek God Quiet Moments, Worship God Painful Moments, Trust God Every Moment, Thank God DON'T PICK UP, NO MATTER WHAT!!! I like that too. Thanx winx (((Jon)))) Have a great day my friend, and thank you for all of your encouragement. Your life example gives us strength too ya know!!! |
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I have been so busy at work and now have to share this computer so have not been on as much as I would have liked. I am so happy for the people here that are trying to make a better life for themselves and for the ones who are giving us support through their own wisdom.
Well I am off to work gee I wish they just gave to money away lol no I don,t really it feels good to contribute. Well I will talk later and remember everyone "Easy Does IT" 
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Have a great day everyone I get the wholeweekend off yipee.
Also have a clean and sober weekend and reachout and help someone.
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