Topic: The disease of Addiction.
Richard877's photo
Wed 02/27/08 08:37 AM
I thought drugs and alcohol was the best thing that ever happened to me,till they turned to the worse things that happened to me,took till I was 42 and Homless to find recovery,and the last 10 years have been the best of my life,the combination was simple,go to lots of meetings,find one you like the best and make it your homegroup,(the meeting you never miss),get a service position,(like coffee maker),find someone of the same sex as you that has gone through the 12 steps and ask hinm or her to guide you through them,then when your done show others how to go through the steps,I'm a miracle and I see miracles everyday...

davidben1's photo
Wed 02/27/08 08:44 AM

I thought drugs and alcohol was the best thing that ever happened to me,till they turned to the worse things that happened to me,took till I was 42 and Homless to find recovery,and the last 10 years have been the best of my life,the combination was simple,go to lots of meetings,find one you like the best and make it your homegroup,(the meeting you never miss),get a service position,(like coffee maker),find someone of the same sex as you that has gone through the 12 steps and ask hinm or her to guide you through them,then when your done show others how to go through the steps,I'm a miracle and I see miracles everyday...


but i am not addicted to anything now, however was addicted to the need to be loved, which gave me many bad habits in the past, which to me is what causes all addictions, lol

jonlaw's photo
Wed 02/27/08 07:25 PM
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I thought drugs and alcohol was the best thing that ever happened to me,till they turned to the worse things that happened to me,took till I was 42 and Homless to find recovery,and the last 10 years have been the best of my life,the combination was simple,go to lots of meetings,find one you like the best and make it your homegroup,(the meeting you never miss),get a service position,(like coffee maker),find someone of the same sex as you that has gone through the 12 steps and ask hinm or her to guide you through them,then when your done show others how to go through the steps,I'm a miracle and I see miracles everyday...
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Hey my friend I really enjoyed what you had to say I to have seen many miracles in the program. Thanks for sharing and I hope you will continue to post here as I personally get alot out of it. Well talk with you again and remember "Take it Easy".happy

Winx's photo
Wed 02/27/08 09:03 PM
Hi all,

Bearsman was in my city. We met!

He is intelligent and has a great sense of humor. He is easy to talk to. The visit was enjoyable. Secret - he looks better in person than in his photos.

Bearsman's photo
Wed 02/27/08 09:18 PM
Edited by Bearsman on Wed 02/27/08 09:20 PM

Hi all,

Bearsman was in my city. We met!

He is intelligent and has a great sense of humor. He is easy to talk to. The visit was enjoyable. Secret - he looks better in person than in his photos.


Posted in the Missouri-part2
http://www.justsayhi.com/topic/show/67341?page=29

Hello Missourians,

I am here visiting from Orlando Florida. I have been wanting to meet someone from here for a while now. We finally got it together and I think it went pretty damn good. She even gave me a hug and a peck. We had a very nice time and the communication was easy. That's the way I like it. The only thing I regret is that we may not see each other again for awhile, because we live so far apart. I still look forward to talkin' to her on the phone. I got a new phone with a headset, that way I won't get tired of holding the phone to my ear. Maybe she'll do the same. Alas, parting is such sweet sorrow, D Winx!!
brokenheart :wink: happy

Wongo meets Wongo Woman!! happy

P.S. For someone that overslept and just got out of bed, Winx sure looked pretty good!!
Plus, I was the one that got stuck on the headlights! :tongue:

Winx's photo
Wed 02/27/08 09:36 PM
Edited by Winx on Wed 02/27/08 09:37 PM
blushing You're pretty neat yourself.

It was great meeting you!!

Bearsman's photo
Wed 02/27/08 09:43 PM

blushing You're pretty neat yourself.

It was great meeting you!!


Excerpt from famous movie,

Winx... You're saying this only to make me go.

Bear... I'm saying it because it's true. Inside of us, we both know you belong with Mikey. You're part of his world, the thing that keeps him going. If that bus leaves and you're not with him, he'll regret it. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.

Winx... But what about us?

Bear... We'll always have St. Louie. We didn't have, we, we lost it until I came to Panara's. We got it back at lunch.
Winx... When I said I would never leave you.
Bear... And you never will. But I've got a job to do, too. Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of. Winx, I'm no good at being noble, but it doesn't take much to see that the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world. Someday you'll understand that. Now, now... Here's looking at you kid.

TammyS's photo
Wed 02/27/08 09:44 PM
Was married to an addict for
twelve years, and who gets hurt?
The innocent.

Bearsman's photo
Wed 02/27/08 09:47 PM

Was married to an addict for
twelve years, and who gets hurt?
The innocent.


Hmmmmm?

B F

davidben1's photo
Wed 02/27/08 09:49 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Wed 02/27/08 09:54 PM
Would wisdom that has a chain around it's neck learn 12 steps to make one able to live with a chain, or would one simply remove the chain from around it's neck......the very reason many of my friends have failed over and over again and became addicted to other things, even several the 12 steps themselves!!! And none within the 12 step program are told that they have what they need within, but told to look to a higher power, when the higher power is within....themselves!!! not a higher power in the sky.....most are bible believeing and even the bible say any religion close the mind, as it always says to look here or there, but never says you were perfect to begin with and something convinced you you were not and why you became addicted and become easily offended to anything more than what was known yesterday....but any that drink of total truth that is within each never wish again, EVER, and nothing can ever control again, PERIOD....nothing can control less it was FIRST thought to be evil or bad at the root or beginning.....if a tree becomes diseased, would one treat with sprays and 12 steps or would it be better if one knew what caused the disease to start with to REMOVE it from the tree all together....the subconcience of each has the power to create and travel like a thought, and we would be told to stay and try to learn to wear a chain.....the true test of the WHOLE truth is if each be FREE.....to never have to think again of something is free, not to always be on gaurd for to loose your life again....many told me i needed twelve steps and they did not work, for they only treated a symptom, but not until one told me the WHOLE truth did i ever come to a place that nothing tied me to fear which is to be controlled....but indeed, it was first the knowlegde of the 12 steps that made me KNOW there had to be something more....there is great comfort I admit and many friends I have from there till this day, but for one that want total freedom to live as a youth again it is possible easily.....tell one that be adicted to sex to abstain from sex is the answer and the addiction become all the greater.....there is no thing that when it know the reason for its own personal addiction that can ever be addicted again to anything, as the thing that held power over is GONE, not learned to deal with and not worn around the neck as a prize. I care about the feelings of others and wish to offend no one, but i care more about the freedom and happiness of others than to base what i will say on fear that something easily offended will be stirred to emotion.....if one be IN control rather than controlled by all, what other human can bring out any emotion that not be in total control?

Winx's photo
Wed 02/27/08 09:55 PM

Was married to an addict for
twelve years, and who gets hurt?
The innocent.


Why did you stay so long?

Bearsman's photo
Wed 02/27/08 09:56 PM

Would wisdom that has a chain around it's neck learn 12 steps to make one able to live with a chain, or would one simply remove the chain from around it's neck......the very reason many of my friends have failed over and over again and became addicted to other things, even several the 12 steps themselves!!! And none within the 12 step program are told that they have what they need within, but told to look to a higher power, when the higher power is within....themselves!!! not a higher power in the sky.....most are bible believeing and even the bible say any religion close the mind, as it always says to look here or there, but never says you were perfect to begin with and something convinced you you were not and why you became addicted and become easily offended to anything more than what was known yesterday....but any that drink of total truth that is within each never wish again, EVER, and nothing can ever control again, PERIOD....nothing can control less it was FIRST thought to be evil or bad at the root or beginning.....if a tree becomes diseased, would one treat with sprays and 12 steps or would it be better if one knew what caused the disease to start with to REMOVE it from the tree all together....the subconcience of each has the power to create and travel like a thought, and we would be told to stay and try to learn to wear a chain.....the true test of the WHOLE truth is if each be FREE.....to never have to think again of something is free, not to always be on gaurd for to loose your life again....many told me i needed twelve steps and they did not work, for they only treated a symptom, but not until one told me the WHOLE truth did i ever come to a place that nothing tied me to fear which is to be controlled....but indeed, it was first the knowlegde of the 12 steps that made me KNOW there had to be something more....there is great comfort I admit and many friends I have from there till this day, but for one that want total freedom to live as a youth again it is possible easily.....tell one that be adicted to sex to abstain from sex is the answer and the addiction become all the greater.....there is no thing that when it know the reason for its own personal addiction that can ever be addicted again to anything, as the thing that held power over is GONE, not learned to deal with and not worn around the neck as a prize. I care about the feelings of others and wish to offend no one, but i care more about the freedom and happiness of others than to base what i will say on fear that something easily offended will be stirred to emotion.....if one be IN control rather than controlled by all, what other human can bring out any emotion that not be in total control?


I ain't gittin' it... huh

B F

TammyS's photo
Wed 02/27/08 09:57 PM
Stupidity. Plain and simple.

Winx's photo
Wed 02/27/08 09:58 PM
Can I email you?

TammyS's photo
Wed 02/27/08 10:00 PM
Sure.

davidben1's photo
Wed 02/27/08 11:15 PM


Would wisdom that has a chain around it's neck learn 12 steps to make one able to live with a chain, or would one simply remove the chain from around it's neck......the very reason many of my friends have failed over and over again and became addicted to other things, even several the 12 steps themselves!!! And none within the 12 step program are told that they have what they need within, but told to look to a higher power, when the higher power is within....themselves!!! not a higher power in the sky.....most are bible believeing and even the bible say any religion close the mind, as it always says to look here or there, but never says you were perfect to begin with and something convinced you you were not and why you became addicted and become easily offended to anything more than what was known yesterday....but any that drink of total truth that is within each never wish again, EVER, and nothing can ever control again, PERIOD....nothing can control less it was FIRST thought to be evil or bad at the root or beginning.....if a tree becomes diseased, would one treat with sprays and 12 steps or would it be better if one knew what caused the disease to start with to REMOVE it from the tree all together....the subconcience of each has the power to create and travel like a thought, and we would be told to stay and try to learn to wear a chain.....the true test of the WHOLE truth is if each be FREE.....to never have to think again of something is free, not to always be on gaurd for to loose your life again....many told me i needed twelve steps and they did not work, for they only treated a symptom, but not until one told me the WHOLE truth did i ever come to a place that nothing tied me to fear which is to be controlled....but indeed, it was first the knowlegde of the 12 steps that made me KNOW there had to be something more....there is great comfort I admit and many friends I have from there till this day, but for one that want total freedom to live as a youth again it is possible easily.....tell one that be adicted to sex to abstain from sex is the answer and the addiction become all the greater.....there is no thing that when it know the reason for its own personal addiction that can ever be addicted again to anything, as the thing that held power over is GONE, not learned to deal with and not worn around the neck as a prize. I care about the feelings of others and wish to offend no one, but i care more about the freedom and happiness of others than to base what i will say on fear that something easily offended will be stirred to emotion.....if one be IN control rather than controlled by all, what other human can bring out any emotion that not be in total control?


I ain't gittin' it... huh

B F


IF ONE HAS A HEADACHE, IS IS BEST TO LEARN TO TAKE ASPIRIN DAILY? OR.....IS IT BEST TO GET RID OF THE HEADACHE ALL TOGETHER? 12 STEPS SAYS TAKE ASPIRIN DAILY FOR GOOD SOBER HEALTH. TRUTH SAYS THAT THERE IS A GOOD REASON ONE IS ADDICTED AND IF KNOWN, THE ADDITCTION WILL GO AWAY FOREVER, NO NEED FOR ASPIRIN. THAT IS ALL PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

spqr's photo
Wed 02/27/08 11:33 PM

Hi: I would like to talk about addiction be it alcoholic ao drugs.

I myself grew up in a aloholic home and by the age of 2 I was hospitalized because of a skipping rope beating from my mother who was a alcoholic,she died by the age of 58.

I stuck the first needle in my arm at age 15 and became alcoholic by the age of 19. I continued to do drugs and alcohol off and on til about a little over 2 months ago and this time I really want to continue with my sobriety.

The book says "that probably no human power could have relieved my alcoholism but God could and would if He were sought.

This is why for me there is a God because I have seen many miracles along the way. I ended up getting my social work degree and have worked in detox and before that I volunteered there cleaning rooms and socializing with other drunks.

So I would like to hear from anyone who wishes to post something with your views on this subject.

Thanks:smile:


I think you did it man..not god.
Good job!

davidben1's photo
Wed 02/27/08 11:41 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Wed 02/27/08 11:42 PM


Hi: I would like to talk about addiction be it alcoholic ao drugs.

I myself grew up in a aloholic home and by the age of 2 I was hospitalized because of a skipping rope beating from my mother who was a alcoholic,she died by the age of 58.

I stuck the first needle in my arm at age 15 and became alcoholic by the age of 19. I continued to do drugs and alcohol off and on til about a little over 2 months ago and this time I really want to continue with my sobriety.

The book says "that probably no human power could have relieved my alcoholism but God could and would if He were sought.

This is why for me there is a God because I have seen many miracles along the way. I ended up getting my social work degree and have worked in detox and before that I volunteered there cleaning rooms and socializing with other drunks.

So I would like to hear from anyone who wishes to post something with your views on this subject.

Thanks:smile:


I think you did it man..not god.
Good job!

gotta second this notion, but what if god is just the love part in us, that is all, as it was said that love was god....how complex can it be...religion make war, love make love.

spqr's photo
Wed 02/27/08 11:50 PM



Hi: I would like to talk about addiction be it alcoholic ao drugs.

I myself grew up in a aloholic home and by the age of 2 I was hospitalized because of a skipping rope beating from my mother who was a alcoholic,she died by the age of 58.

I stuck the first needle in my arm at age 15 and became alcoholic by the age of 19. I continued to do drugs and alcohol off and on til about a little over 2 months ago and this time I really want to continue with my sobriety.

The book says "that probably no human power could have relieved my alcoholism but God could and would if He were sought.

This is why for me there is a God because I have seen many miracles along the way. I ended up getting my social work degree and have worked in detox and before that I volunteered there cleaning rooms and socializing with other drunks.

So I would like to hear from anyone who wishes to post something with your views on this subject.

Thanks:smile:


I think you did it man..not god.
Good job!

gotta second this notion, but what if god is just the love part in us, that is all, as it was said that love was god....how complex can it be...religion make war, love make love.



still he did it...loving himself.
good point thou!

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 02/28/08 01:58 AM
there are many addictions that most people don't think about. eating disorders are addictions as well