Topic: Ladies of the night
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Wed 03/10/21 03:58 PM

Here is my take on sex for money.
I think it is a necessity to have sex workers in society, despite what other people think.
Do you agree or disagree and why?


How much do you charge? laugh

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Wed 03/10/21 04:03 PM


Here is my take on sex for money.
I think it is a necessity to have sex workers in society, despite what other people think.
Do you agree or disagree and why?


How much do you charge? laugh


100 Pharisee foreskins.

NiceFitGuy's photo
Wed 03/10/21 04:16 PM
Add to your collection?

Robert's photo
Wed 03/10/21 04:25 PM
I support it, and feel it should be legalized in the US. It should be handled like it is in other countries where it's a legal job and they pay taxes.

I don't believe it will stop sex crimes though, least not in the US. It might slow it down some, but sex crimes are more about power and control than a frustration of not being able to get sex. I feel most will want to continue to take it, rather than pay for it. There's plenty of prostitution in the US, yet we continue to have a high rate of sex crimes. They could easily get sex for $10 or $20 in some Metropolitan areas, but they don't. They aren't interested in paying for it, their interested in just taking it, and having power over what they believe they can't have.

yes , exactly what she said

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Wed 03/10/21 04:47 PM
Ladies of the night

Dammit.
Are vampires coming back?
At least zombie apocalypse hysteria is dying down.
Oh crap.
Are the ladies zompires?
Oh god.
You want a Kristen Stewart and Kirston Dunst revival, don't you.
Nooooooo!

Here is my take on sex for money.

Ooooooooh!

I think it is a necessity to have sex workers in society, despite what other people think.

Really?
So you would be okay if a "draft" for sex workers was enacted if the government deemed it as "necessary?"
Make everyone sign up for "sexlective service?"
Or would you treat it more like a "jury duty" summons?

Do you agree or disagree and why?

I don't agree that sex workers are a "necessity" in society.
Because to me it's like saying "it is a necessity to have fast food workers in society."

And personally, IMO, I would say "sex workers" are actually a symptom of a societal problem, rather than a means to cure one.
Not to mention how casual sex/multiple partners screws with a persons ability to actually bond.

So I'll just throw these out there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_human_sexual_promiscuity

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201303/how-casual-sex-can-affect-our-mental-health

https://www.everydayhealth.com/longevity/can-promiscuity-threaten-longevity.aspx

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5072360/

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Wed 03/10/21 05:43 PM

Here is my take on sex for money.
I think it is a necessity to have sex workers in society, despite what other people think.
Do you agree or disagree and why?


Mmmm I agree! well I have no problem with the sex work thingy. My thoughts are always " You do what you have to do to get by." As long as it is your own choice to do so. Yes problems will arise from it, but problem,s arise from dating too. So.....


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Wed 03/10/21 06:00 PM
my take on sex for money is that in many cases it disempowers men and women and often Increases the risk of violence .. abuse and personal harm . Although there are exceptions many trading in sex are trapped in a culture of oppression and inequality .

At best these statistics underrepresent the sex trade and are likely out of date ...

“Worldwide there is an estimation of 40-42 million prostitutes.

80 percent of the world population of prostitutes are female and range in age between 13-25.

90 percent of all prostitutes are dependent on a pimp.

There are an estimated 1-2 million prostitutes in the United States…
A look at male prostitution statistics shows that of the 40-42 million prostitutes in the world, 8-8.42 million are thought to be men…

In a report published by the Juvenile Justice Information Exchange, 50% of the 100,000 children trafficked for sex are boys.”

Clearly there are many social issues associated with the sex trade .

Oscar Wilde once said everything is about sex , except sex which is about power .,

A large concern I have with the sex industry is who exactly has that power and how it is used .

Sex may indeed be considered a primal drive and I have no issue with any gender paying for sex . My issue is with a culture that promotes risk (physical , spiritual or psychological and gives sex such power .



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Wed 03/10/21 07:16 PM
They should legalize it. People are going to buy it anyway. Might as well make it as safe as possible.

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Wed 03/10/21 07:29 PM
Edited by Blondey111 on Wed 03/10/21 07:33 PM

They should legalize it. People are going to buy it anyway. Might as well make it as safe as possible.
depends what legalise it means .. if that gives any legitimacy to pimps or those with control over others then I would not support that . How do you believe legalising the sex trade changes safety ????

. I don’t think the act of swelling your body (lmao that was supposed to say selling your body!!!) should be a criminal offence but there needs to be boundaries to protect under-aged , those “forced “ into prostitution and those who use prostitution to fuel illegal drugs/black market trade . A blanket acceptance of the sex trade would likely be just as socially problematic .

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Wed 03/10/21 08:34 PM


It's so wonderful to see that most took the morality route in their responses.

I think now; from most of the responses, it's perfectly reasonable to expect most would have no issue encouraging their daughters to go into the trade.

It's nice to see where the world is at, every once in awhile


Your comment about daughters was extreme.
You have a point about morals. But, if there was no need or want for it, it would not exist. Who is the perpetrator here and who exists because of it?




Why would it be extreme? If it's ok by your standards, I don't see why it would be a problem to encourage your daughter to take up the trade. I understand the problem you have with my question/statement posed. If you have a problem with your daughter in prostitution, you're proved to be a hypocrite because you're only ok with it if it's somebody else's daughter..... on the other hand if you're ok with your daughter being a hooker - then it exposes your moral compass, as most have done here.

As Crystal pointed out with the lawyers, people still encourage their daughters to be lawyers, whether or not they are defending scumbags, or chasing an ambulance, or destroying a family.

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Wed 03/10/21 09:00 PM




As undateable as many women in this country have become over the recent years, I am 100% ok with prostitution/sex work. And this is coming from a handsome, fit, financially well off man who has no problem finding sex/companionship.

The amount of time, effort, and bs involved with dating women in the USA these days isn't even close to worth the effort. Just pay up once a week, month, or year (depending on your needs) and continue on with your day and life in peace. Or, free porn is everywhere. Women are becoming more and more irrelevant to men as time goes on with no one to blame but themselves.

Yeah, I said it!




So why are you on a dating site?


Good question! His profile says he's looking for dating, friendship, marriage, relationship, intimate encounter.


But why when in his words he is “handsome, fit, financially well off man who has no problem finding sex/companionship”. Oh he forgot to mention how modest he is too!


Since when, knowing your worth is an issue?

I can see that he's not an ugly dude - so handsome is not an unreasonable word

Fit - according to his pics, looks true

Financially well off - the ladies will know first date, but no reason not to believe

No Problem finding sex/companionship - there's some truth to that, but not entirely. I suspect that he may be able to bed a woman, but the women be of the same caliber and will have the same M.O.


I disagree with his stance on hookers; however, I do agree with the assessment he made of his reasoning. There are more problematic women available to date, then there are reasonably well adjusted women you could build something with. And that ratio can be qualified by with the sheer notion that most adjusted women would be taken - and the few happenstance women will not be on the market long. And the odds get worse as time goes on.

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Wed 03/10/21 09:21 PM
I'm seeing more men would rather pay for sex and be done with it. No relationship.

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Wed 03/10/21 09:23 PM
“women are becoming more irrelevant to men”

Sounds like something mr Bobbitt said rofl rofl rofl rofl

.perhaps when I stop laughing :angel: and blowing up a doll to send to you ... I will give your comment the attention it deserves :waving biggrin




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Wed 03/10/21 10:52 PM




As undateable as many women in this country have become over the recent years, I am 100% ok with prostitution/sex work. And this is coming from a handsome, fit, financially well off man who has no problem finding sex/companionship.

The amount of time, effort, and bs involved with dating women in the USA these days isn't even close to worth the effort. Just pay up once a week, month, or year (depending on your needs) and continue on with your day and life in peace. Or, free porn is everywhere. Women are becoming more and more irrelevant to men as time goes on with no one to blame but themselves.

Yeah, I said it!




So why are you on a dating site?


Good question! His profile says he's looking for dating, friendship, marriage, relationship, intimate encounter.


But why when in his words he is “handsome, fit, financially well off man who has no problem finding sex/companionship”. Oh he forgot to mention how modest he is too!


Well he was too modest to mention he has a **** that would make a horse jealous.

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Thu 03/11/21 02:23 AM

Here is my take on sex for money.
I think it is a necessity to have sex workers in society, despite what other people think.
Do you agree or disagree and why?


I disagree. There is no necessity for sex workers.

It has been illegal to pay for sex in Northern Ireland since 1 June 2015, as a result of the Human Trafficking and Exploitation, but not in the rest of the UK, although, there is a debate about the possible reform of prostitution laws in the UK An increase in the number of prostitutes originating from overseas in the 21st century led to concerns regarding allegations of human trafficking and forced prostitution.

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_Kingdom

One thing is for certain you won't find another Julia Roberts in the business.laugh

Harry's photo
Thu 03/11/21 02:30 AM
I've read peoples comments, there are a few things that have stood out.
The Biggest issue in this instants is there will always be an exploitative market because people are greedy and will use any one or thing to get there stuff, for any reason.
Another issue is, there are cultural and societal rules around sex which vary from one place to another.
The final one is, the individuals take on what sex is and what it is for.


This leads to a bigger study on the environment of the development of any particular individual, the social and cultural impact of that male's/ female's growth from enfant to adult and how their brain functions interpreting the world and the automatic drives for reproduction and finding a mate.

These drives being over ridden by the environment the individual finds themselves in that being social and economic poverty or enslavement.
This applies from the very pit of the sex trade to what is refereed to high end or escorts even to the media driven sex workers of soft porn industry that pays women to bear all or nearly all on glossy mags and pages on the inside of what ever tabloid.

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Thu 03/11/21 02:45 AM



It's so wonderful to see that most took the morality route in their responses.

I think now; from most of the responses, it's perfectly reasonable to expect most would have no issue encouraging their daughters to go into the trade.

It's nice to see where the world is at, every once in awhile


Your comment about daughters was extreme.
You have a point about morals. But, if there was no need or want for it, it would not exist. Who is the perpetrator here and who exists because of it?




Why would it be extreme? If it's ok by your standards, I don't see why it would be a problem to encourage your daughter to take up the trade. I understand the problem you have with my question/statement posed. If you have a problem with your daughter in prostitution, you're proved to be a hypocrite because you're only ok with it if it's somebody else's daughter..... on the other hand if you're ok with your daughter being a hooker - then it exposes your moral compass, as most have done here.

As Crystal pointed out with the lawyers, people still encourage their daughters to be lawyers, whether or not they are defending scumbags, or chasing an ambulance, or destroying a family.

The question wasn't about how we'd feel if our daughter was a sexworker...
Fact we see the need for that doesn't make anyone a hypocrite either.

The fact that...
Garbage needs collecting... does not mean I want my son to do that
Goods need transporting... does not mean I want my kid to be a truckdriver
Food needs to be sold... does not mean I want my kid to work in a supermarket
Men need access to sexworkers... does not mean I want my kid to be a sexworker

Yet all these things are needed, me not wanting them for my kids does not make me hypocritical.

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Thu 03/11/21 04:53 AM
Edited by bobtail76 on Thu 03/11/21 05:02 AM




It's so wonderful to see that most took the morality route in their responses.

I think now; from most of the responses, it's perfectly reasonable to expect most would have no issue encouraging their daughters to go into the trade.

It's nice to see where the world is at, every once in awhile


Your comment about daughters was extreme.
You have a point about morals. But, if there was no need or want for it, it would not exist. Who is the perpetrator here and who exists because of it?




Why would it be extreme? If it's ok by your standards, I don't see why it would be a problem to encourage your daughter to take up the trade. I understand the problem you have with my question/statement posed. If you have a problem with your daughter in prostitution, you're proved to be a hypocrite because you're only ok with it if it's somebody else's daughter..... on the other hand if you're ok with your daughter being a hooker - then it exposes your moral compass, as most have done here.

As Crystal pointed out with the lawyers, people still encourage their daughters to be lawyers, whether or not they are defending scumbags, or chasing an ambulance, or destroying a family.

The question wasn't about how we'd feel if our daughter was a sexworker...
Fact we see the need for that doesn't make anyone a hypocrite either.

The fact that...
Garbage needs collecting... does not mean I want my son to do that
Goods need transporting... does not mean I want my kid to be a truckdriver
Food needs to be sold... does not mean I want my kid to work in a supermarket
Men need access to sexworkers... does not mean I want my kid to be a sexworker

Yet all these things are needed, me not wanting them for my kids does not make me hypocritical.


ok....If your son was a truckdriver or garbage collector would you be just as ok with it as you would as if your daughter was a hooker?

I'm aware that the question posed wasn't about daughters working as sex workers; however, the fact that the idea is irrelevant in the decision to give it the thumbs up speaks to everyone who supports it's morality.

It's somebody's daughter

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Thu 03/11/21 06:06 AM





It's so wonderful to see that most took the morality route in their responses.

I think now; from most of the responses, it's perfectly reasonable to expect most would have no issue encouraging their daughters to go into the trade.

It's nice to see where the world is at, every once in awhile


Your comment about daughters was extreme.
You have a point about morals. But, if there was no need or want for it, it would not exist. Who is the perpetrator here and who exists because of it?




Why would it be extreme? If it's ok by your standards, I don't see why it would be a problem to encourage your daughter to take up the trade. I understand the problem you have with my question/statement posed. If you have a problem with your daughter in prostitution, you're proved to be a hypocrite because you're only ok with it if it's somebody else's daughter..... on the other hand if you're ok with your daughter being a hooker - then it exposes your moral compass, as most have done here.

As Crystal pointed out with the lawyers, people still encourage their daughters to be lawyers, whether or not they are defending scumbags, or chasing an ambulance, or destroying a family.

The question wasn't about how we'd feel if our daughter was a sexworker...
Fact we see the need for that doesn't make anyone a hypocrite either.

The fact that...
Garbage needs collecting... does not mean I want my son to do that
Goods need transporting... does not mean I want my kid to be a truckdriver
Food needs to be sold... does not mean I want my kid to work in a supermarket
Men need access to sexworkers... does not mean I want my kid to be a sexworker

Yet all these things are needed, me not wanting them for my kids does not make me hypocritical.


ok....If your son was a truckdriver or garbage collector would you be just as ok with it as you would as if your daughter was a hooker?

I'm aware that the question posed wasn't about daughters working as sex workers; however, the fact that the idea is irrelevant in the decision to give it the thumbs up speaks to everyone who supports it's morality.

It's somebody's daughter

If that's what they want to do, it's what they want to do. I don't live under the illusion I can tell my kids what to do, which is fine, they're adults.
I'd find it more difficult if either of my kids was a porn star. At least sexworkers have their own room, close the curtains when they have a customer, and they aren't exposed in public for everyone to see for eternity.

And yes, it's someone's daughter, and often it's also someone's partner btw and possibly mother :)

I still fail to see how it's hypocritical. As I pointed out there's many jobs a parent wouldn't want their kids to do, yet still see that job is necessary to be done by someone.

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Thu 03/11/21 10:10 AM
Prostitution ~ wiki

Prostitution is the business or practice of engaging in sexual activity in exchange for payment. Prostitution is sometimes described as sexual services, commercial sex or, colloquially, hooking. It is sometimes referred to euphemistically as "the world's oldest profession" in the English-speaking world. A person who works in this field is called a prostitute and is a type of sex worker.

In the Ancient Near East along the Tigris–Euphrates river system there were many shrines and temples or "houses of heaven" dedicated to various deities documented by the Ancient Greek historian Herodotus in The Histories where sacred prostitution was a common practice. It came to an end when the emperor Constantine in the fourth century AD destroyed the goddess temples and replaced them with Christianity.
As early as the 18th century BC, ancient Mesopotamia recognized the need to protect women's property rights. In the Code of Hammurabi, provisions were found that addressed inheritance rights of women, including female prostitutes.


Ancient Hebrew culture
According to Zohar and the Alphabet of Ben Sira, there were four angels of sacred prostitution, who mated with archangel Samael. They were the queens of the demons Lilith, Naamah, Agrat Bat Mahlat and Eisheth Zenunim.


Ancient Greece
Both women and boys engaged in prostitution in ancient Greece. Female prostitutes could be independent and sometimes influential women. They were required to wear distinctive dresses and had to pay taxes. Some similarities have been found between the Greek hetaera, the Japanese oiran, and also the Indian tawaif. Some prostitutes in ancient Greece, such as Lais were as famous for their company as their beauty, and some of these women charged extraordinary sums for their services.


Ancient Rome
Prostitution in ancient Rome was legal, public, and widespread. A registered prostitute was called a meretrix while the unregistered one fell under the broad category prostibulae. There were some commonalities with the Greek system, but as the Empire grew, prostitutes were often foreign slaves, captured, purchased, or raised for that purpose, sometimes by large-scale "prostitute farmers" who took abandoned children. Indeed, abandoned children were almost always raised as prostitutes. Enslavement into prostitution was sometimes used as a legal punishment against criminal free women. Buyers were allowed to inspect naked men and women for sale in private and there was no stigma attached to the purchase of males by a male aristocrat.


Sex tourism emerged in the late 20th century as a controversial aspect of Western tourism and globalization.

In the 21st century, Afghans revived a method of prostituting young boys which is referred to as "bacha bazi".
Since the break up of the Soviet Union, thousands of eastern European women end up as prostitutes in China, Western Europe, Israel, and Turkey every year; some enter the profession willingly, but many are tricked, coerced, or kidnapped, and often experience captivity and violence. There are tens of thousands of women from eastern Europe and Asia working as prostitutes in Dubai. Men from Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates form a large proportion of the customers.
India's devadasi girls are forced by their poor families to dedicate themselves to the Hindu goddess Renuka. The BBC wrote in 2007 that devadasis are "sanctified prostitutes".
Historically, and currently, church prostitutes exist, and the practice may be legal or illegal, depending on the country, state or province.


Roughly speaking, the possible attitudes are:

"Prostitution should be tolerated by society":
decriminalization: "prostitution is labor like any other. Sex industry premises should not be subject to any special regulation or laws", the current situation in New Zealand; the laws against operating a brothel, pimping and street prostitution are struck down, but prostitution is hardly regulated at all. Proponents of this view often cite instances of government regulation under legalization that they consider intrusive, demeaning, or violent, but feel that criminalization adversely affects sex workers. Amnesty International is one of the notable groups calling for the decriminalization of prostitution.
regulation: prostitution may be considered a legitimate business; prostitution and the employment of prostitutes are legal, but regulated; the current situation in the Netherlands, Germany, most of Australia and parts of Nevada (see Prostitution in Nevada). The degree of regulation varies very much; for example, in the Netherlands, prostitutes are not required to undergo mandatory health checks (see Prostitution in the Netherlands), while in Nevada, the regulations are very strict (see Prostitution in Nevada).
"Prostitution should not be tolerated":
abolitionism (prostitution itself is not prohibited, but most associated activities are illegal, in an attempt to make it more difficult to engage in prostitution, prostitution is heavily discouraged and seen as a social problem): prostitution (the exchange of sexual services for money) is legal, but the surrounding activities such as public solicitation, operating a brothel and other forms of pimping are prohibited. This is to some extent the current situation in Great Britain, where prostitution is considered "both a public nuisance and sexual offence", and Italy among others.
neo-abolitionism ("prostitution is inherently abusive, both a cause and consequence of inequality, a form of violence against women, a violation of human rights, the clients of the prostitutes exploit the prostitutes"): prostitutes are not prosecuted, but their clients and pimps are, which is the current situation in Sweden, France, Norway and Iceland (in Norway the law is even more strict, forbidding also having sex with a prostitute abroad).[109]
prohibitionism (both prostitutes and clients are criminalized and are seen as immoral, they are considered criminals): the prevailing attitude nearly everywhere in the United States, with a few exceptions in some rural Nevada counties (see Prostitution in Nevada)

Survival sex is when the prostitute is driven to prostitution by a need for basic necessities such as food or shelter. This type of prostitution is common among the homeless and in refugee camps. The term is used in the sex trade and by aid workers, although some practitioners do not regard the act as exploitative.

Regarding the prostitution of children the laws on prostitution as well as those on sex with a child apply. If prostitution in general is legal there is usually a minimum age requirement for legal prostitution that is higher than the general age of consent. Although some countries do not single out patronage of child prostitution as a separate crime, the same act is punishable as sex with an underage person.

Prostitution among the elderly is a phenomenon reported in South Korea where elderly women, called Bacchus Ladies, turn to prostitution out of necessity. They are called that because many also sell the popular Bacchus energy drink to make ends meet. State pensions of about ₩200,000 (US$168) provide a basic income but are often not enough to cover the rising medical bills of old age. It first arose after the 1997 Asian financial crisis when it became more difficult for children and grandchildren to support their elders. Clients tend to be more senior. The use of erection inducing injections with reused needles has contributed to the spread of sexually transmitted disease.

Street prostitutes are at higher risk of violent crime than brothel prostitutes and bar prostitutes.

Sex trafficking is defined as using coercion or force to transport an unwilling person into prostitution or other sexual exploitation. The United Nations stated in 2009 that sex trafficking is the most commonly identified form of human trafficking and estimates that about 79% of human trafficking reported is for prostitution (although the study notes that this may be the result of statistical bias and that sex trafficking tends to receive the most attention and be the most visible). Sex trafficking has been described by Kul Gautum, Deputy Executive Director of UNICEF, as "the largest slave trade in history." It is also the fastest growing criminal industry, predicted to outgrow drug trafficking. While there may be a higher number of people involved in slavery today than at any time in history, the proportion of the population is probably the smallest in history.

Prostitution, often when it is illegal, is used in extortion and blackmail, which always involves extortion, where the extortionist threatens to reveal information about a victim or their family members that is potentially embarrassing, socially damaging, or incriminating unless a demand for money, property, or services is met. The subject of the extortion may be manipulated into or voluntarily solicit the use of prostitution which is then later used to extort money or for profit otherwise. The film The Godfather Part II famously depicts the role of Senator Geary who is implicated in the use of prostitution in order to gain his compliance on political issues.

Types

In street prostitution, the prostitute solicits customers while waiting at street corners, sometimes called "the track" by pimps and prostitutes alike. They usually dress in skimpy, provocative clothing, regardless of the weather. In American usage, street prostitutes are often called "streetwalkers" while their customers are referred to as "tricks" or "johns." Servicing the customers is described as "turning tricks." The sex is usually performed in the customer's car, in a nearby alley, or in a rented room. Motels and hotels that accommodate prostitutes commonly rent rooms by the half or full hour.


Window prostitution is a form of prostitution that is fairly common in the Netherlands and surrounding countries. The prostitute rents a window plus workspace off a window operator for a certain period of time, often per day or part of a day. The prostitute is also independent and recruits her own customers and also negotiates the price and the services to be provided.

Brothels are establishments specifically dedicated to prostitution, often confined to special red-light districts in big cities. Other names for brothels include bordello, whorehouse, cathouse, knocking shop, and general houses. Prostitution also occurs in some massage parlours, and in Asian countries in some barber shops where sexual services may be offered as a secondary function of the premises.

Escort services may be distinguished from prostitution or other forms of prostitution in that sexual activities are often not explicitly advertised as necessarily included in these services; rather, payment is often noted as being for an escort's time and companionship only, although there is often an implicit assumption that sexual activities are expected.

Sex tourism is travel for sexual intercourse with prostitutes or to engage in other sexual activity. The World Tourism Organization, a specialized agency of the United Nations defines sex tourism as "trips organized from within the tourism sector, or from outside this sector but using its structures and networks, with the primary purpose of effecting a commercial sexual relationship by the tourist with residents at the destination"

Virtual sex, that is, sexual acts conveyed by messages rather than physically, is also the subject of commercial transactions. Commercial phone sex services have been available for decades. The advent of the Internet has made other forms of virtual sex available for money, including computer-mediated cybersex, in which sexual services are provided in text form by way of chat rooms or instant messaging, or audiovisually through a webcam (see camgirl).

Full/Complete article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution
Also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_States