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Topic: Coronavirus - part 2
Duttoneer's photo
Wed 04/14/21 12:52 AM

Coronavirus in Brazil is causing serious illness in much younger people, those under 40 years of age, resulting in high numbers of hospitalisations of this age group according to this BBC news report.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-latin-america-56723439

Covid: Younger Brazilians fall ill as cases explode

"Concern is growing in Brazil about the rising number of young people who are critically ill in hospital with Covid-19.

Research suggests more than half of patients being treated in intensive care last month were under 40."

SparklingCrystal đź’–đź’Ž's photo
Wed 04/14/21 08:54 AM
Millions worldwide have now been infected errr... injected but the daily numbers of new cases is on the rise!

Just goes to show there's no point, a waste of billions of dollars, and we still don't know WHY they're injecting people, nor what for. Well, apart from manipulating the masses.

A total waste. All that money should've been invested in building houses, supporting hospitals so they can function better and so on and so forth.

SparklingCrystal đź’–đź’Ž's photo
Wed 04/14/21 03:40 PM
Denmark has stopped use of Astra Zeneca as the risks are too high and too severe.
One down... couple more to go!

Slim gym 's photo
Wed 04/14/21 04:53 PM

Denmark has stopped use of Astra Zeneca as the risks are too high and too severe.
One down... couple more to go!


meanwhile in Canada and US we have green light to use it as its 1 in 250000 chance of clotting, and we have paused only to change/ update the clotting issue , so we are still using 4 vaccines....

Calle's photo
Thu 04/15/21 02:51 AM






Otherwise ... Unsubstantiated rumour is the basis of misinformation . I will add you to that list :wink:



Hey why are not whistleblower working independent a reliable source?
This whistle blower are working in WHO and i havelinked to that source before but that was ignored. Whistle blower Astrid Stuckelberger, Ph.D., a WHO insider, about what she discovered about Bill Gates and GAVI, the Vaccine Alliance.

Stuckelberger has served as deputy director of the Swiss national program of aging since the 1990s, and is the president of the WHO-funded Geneva International Network on Ageing. (Bio here https://www.astridstuckelberger.com/bio/)
see this link:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/03/19/gavi-bill-gates-world-health-organization.aspx

Some other linked Gavi as source do they not have conflict of interests?

Independent researcher are more reliable in my book have respect for Mercola also.

If it safe why do the pharmacy company they want/have indemnity?

As posted in earlier post it is a emergency approval for the Vaccine in at least USA. Do you have any long terms studies on good working on MRNA-vaccines?

Several independent researcher have said it has backfired before in animal studies.








hello Calle waving I didn’t notice your earlier post about whistleblowing and the WHO. My comment about unsubstantiated rumour was concerning a different matter . If there is any basis to the claims I am sure they will be held accountable.

As for indemnity insurance .. as far as I know most health providers have such insurance .. it provides personal protection and covers legal costs for claims relating to professional practice . I am sure lots of industries are covered by indemnity insurance .

I read recently that Pfizer consider they have enough safety data to apply for full approval . Watch this space .

It is unlikely there are long term studies available yet . Perhaps ask in a year :wink: that said mRNA as a potential therapeutic platform has been studied since the 1990’s... the following link explains that history in more detail ... http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/why-are-mrna-vaccines-so-exciting-2020121021599

As you can see from the article there were several obstacles with earlier trials and research including the development of a safe delivery technique to deliver RNA to target cells . (Recent breakthroughs leading to the development of the covid vaccine have solved those obstacles and found a safe way to encapsulate and deliver the RNA so that it is not broken down.

Much of the earlier research focused on cancer cells but there have been studies which attempted to harness mRNA technology for vaccination purposes (Zika virus , Ebola , influenza ) . I haven’t reviewed those studies personally but It would be difficult to draw any comparisons /conclusions unless the exact same platform production techniques/ingredients and encapsulation method is used . . That would be like trying to compare apples and bananas .

I am not aware of other animal studies using the exact same platform (apart from the Pfizer and Moderna studies ) . Can you tell me which animal studies you are referring to ?




Well regarding Who/Gates wistle blower, i really hope they get a fair trail for Gates. If Gates can infiltrate WHO and change the definition of Pandemic and then sell Vaccines with profit something is wrong. I think it is wrong that any person should have such power. It should be transparency also, not indemnity.

I try to investigate self. Ignorance and naivety are dangerous and there are warnings now and in history for example JFK infamous speech about hidden powers with dark agendas that works partly with infiltration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA .

What other branches have indemnity? Sadly politicians in Sweden have fixed that for some reasons, but else I don't know any.
Warranty are standard 1-2 year and must consults have insurances (I have one my self) if they do something wrong at least so in Sweden.

I don´t find it exiting trying a new technology on Billions without long terms studies. Then you give pharmacy company indemnity and let them into a race for selling vaccines and get money... What can go wrong...
How can one claim it safe if no long term studies?
https://anthonycolpo.com/yet-more-proof-the-covid-19-vaccines-have-not-been-thoroughly-tested-nor-proven-safe-and-effective/

Dr. Lee Merritt earlier linked bitchute-clip said it backfired. Already linked to one Kennedy here is nephew Robert Kennedy junior talking about it backfiring https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuMbRBTZhCY

If you have way to search. Then search on cat and ferrets studies and corona/ MRNA vaccine, but heard even more doctors say the same. Here is an article talking about poor studies with more links https://anthonycolpo.com/the-disturbing-truth-about-moderna-and-its-mrna-covid-19-vaccine-part-1/

This new article in Sweden suggest that the immune system have not responded as it should, might be the canaries in the mine...https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/kRVALk/forskare-skyhoga-nivaer-av-antikroppar-mot-blodplattar-hos-patiente?fbclid%3DIwAR1hLLOJxazvbbevn8r1eZ69BpgKZ-HWSynSeQktmIWNGeSxCJaH3JDDDo0

Yet, again I hope they/I are wrong, but I think this is a very risky approach.

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Thanks for the links Calle .. I was unable to open the last one . Tried with and without google translate .

I did read the links from
Anthony Colpo . He claims to be an independent researcher but unable to find if he has research qualifications or participated in research studies . His bio says he is a “certified fitness instructor”.
With the following disclaimer on his site ...,,

“All content on this web site is provided for information and education purposes only. Individuals wishing to make changes to their dietary, lifestyle, exercise or medication regimens should do so in conjunction with a competent, knowledgeable and empathetic medical professional. Anyone who chooses to apply the information on this web site does so of their own volition and their own risk. The owner and contributors to this site accept no responsibility or liability whatsoever for any harm, real or imagined, from the use or dissemination of information contained on this site. If these conditions are not agreeable to the reader, he/she is advised to leave this site immediately.”

Besides fitness he has written a couple of books and built a business which ??? appears to be centred around “******** detection”. . Some would call that a bias . If you have any evidence of his qualifications as an independent researcher please post that link . If it is just a self imposed title then to me it carries little validity .



The last article where about people with blood-clots problem from the immune system over responding it says in the article. If it is cause blood clots it might possible in even more people more hart attacks, strokes might come from the Vaccine in the future.

Can you ask my question then, which other branches have indemnity?
How can you claim it is safe if no long term studies?

Anthony Colpo have lots of sources throw links that backs much of the info in is article if you look. Also had Kennedy junior and other Doctor claim the same about earlier vaccine of this type have backfired.
But well here you have on interview with info of the studie in the background.

https://ugetube.com/watch/why-people-can-die-from-the-vaccine-dolores-cahill_VS2oxxMnVyOTgAJ.html?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=6620523fa67ee34d5a081728c4ff55c9018daf52-1618473654-0-AckrfRSuYTf18RgFNBtyRpHpY4zZ746Mnr5d1f_HDWnDlBHYav5ETME4iloesXdpAFY-Qe11cQ5JagT6YEh-IQMWaVjr-fg0MyNEc9CQqIE5Nff8h2LYtTYIV-VPAw5tpr-6AFPmELIVtB_KI1Szh4whr9KDDPlhhzOrAVDKxe0PcA2YL6bFMlEiffwm-82fp7RtOMX848SB7AFm574m3ocAEeZqat7SSm9UVUdSTqBepv-gFuoRfNY53yxk6R9jQwMYeBSkYeHVKDlRNOs25YzMnQ0IXCJlaTOOwwwB4ahaE3zIhoaHKmyUeYSVJO1IKxWvAaUUq9SARiEbhjSXTPmq4aPKkWJiAi0jR6Di7qYIk_JaZfDdcKGrPJjf2KhhC06DzCXmZDnlQVntJZaZqX9pMxFmB9qlevtvW9osPyB4Vh0cHpHnzjSwBvU1SsaoVqIHjArP4_czNKywpRCXNPj7t0MvSTIL-YxmVI8l6BJffASYJAiU-7huhm7oIMzTR99nQGjKuGtfDqWHF2nwiWwULMvpEfKGb7WH8IzVq64w




























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Thu 04/15/21 07:58 AM
Edited by Blondey111 on Thu 04/15/21 08:18 AM







Otherwise ... Unsubstantiated rumour is the basis of misinformation . I will add you to that list :wink:



Hey why are not whistleblower working independent a reliable source?
This whistle blower are working in WHO and i havelinked to that source before but that was ignored. Whistle blower Astrid Stuckelberger, Ph.D., a WHO insider, about what she discovered about Bill Gates and GAVI, the Vaccine Alliance.

Stuckelberger has served as deputy director of the Swiss national program of aging since the 1990s, and is the president of the WHO-funded Geneva International Network on Ageing. (Bio here https://www.astridstuckelberger.com/bio/)
see this link:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/03/19/gavi-bill-gates-world-health-organization.aspx

Some other linked Gavi as source do they not have conflict of interests?

Independent researcher are more reliable in my book have respect for Mercola also.

If it safe why do the pharmacy company they want/have indemnity?

As posted in earlier post it is a emergency approval for the Vaccine in at least USA. Do you have any long terms studies on good working on MRNA-vaccines?

Several independent researcher have said it has backfired before in animal studies.








hello Calle waving I didn’t notice your earlier post about whistleblowing and the WHO. My comment about unsubstantiated rumour was concerning a different matter . If there is any basis to the claims I am sure they will be held accountable.

As for indemnity insurance .. as far as I know most health providers have such insurance .. it provides personal protection and covers legal costs for claims relating to professional practice . I am sure lots of industries are covered by indemnity insurance .

I read recently that Pfizer consider they have enough safety data to apply for full approval . Watch this space .

It is unlikely there are long term studies available yet . Perhaps ask in a year :wink: that said mRNA as a potential therapeutic platform has been studied since the 1990’s... the following link explains that history in more detail ... http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/why-are-mrna-vaccines-so-exciting-2020121021599

As you can see from the article there were several obstacles with earlier trials and research including the development of a safe delivery technique to deliver RNA to target cells . (Recent breakthroughs leading to the development of the covid vaccine have solved those obstacles and found a safe way to encapsulate and deliver the RNA so that it is not broken down.

Much of the earlier research focused on cancer cells but there have been studies which attempted to harness mRNA technology for vaccination purposes (Zika virus , Ebola , influenza ) . I haven’t reviewed those studies personally but It would be difficult to draw any comparisons /conclusions unless the exact same platform production techniques/ingredients and encapsulation method is used . . That would be like trying to compare apples and bananas .

I am not aware of other animal studies using the exact same platform (apart from the Pfizer and Moderna studies ) . Can you tell me which animal studies you are referring to ?




Well regarding Who/Gates wistle blower, i really hope they get a fair trail for Gates. If Gates can infiltrate WHO and change the definition of Pandemic and then sell Vaccines with profit something is wrong. I think it is wrong that any person should have such power. It should be transparency also, not indemnity.

I try to investigate self. Ignorance and naivety are dangerous and there are warnings now and in history for example JFK infamous speech about hidden powers with dark agendas that works partly with infiltration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA .

What other branches have indemnity? Sadly politicians in Sweden have fixed that for some reasons, but else I don't know any.
Warranty are standard 1-2 year and must consults have insurances (I have one my self) if they do something wrong at least so in Sweden.

I don´t find it exiting trying a new technology on Billions without long terms studies. Then you give pharmacy company indemnity and let them into a race for selling vaccines and get money... What can go wrong...
How can one claim it safe if no long term studies?
https://anthonycolpo.com/yet-more-proof-the-covid-19-vaccines-have-not-been-thoroughly-tested-nor-proven-safe-and-effective/

Dr. Lee Merritt earlier linked bitchute-clip said it backfired. Already linked to one Kennedy here is nephew Robert Kennedy junior talking about it backfiring https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuMbRBTZhCY

If you have way to search. Then search on cat and ferrets studies and corona/ MRNA vaccine, but heard even more doctors say the same. Here is an article talking about poor studies with more links https://anthonycolpo.com/the-disturbing-truth-about-moderna-and-its-mrna-covid-19-vaccine-part-1/

This new article in Sweden suggest that the immune system have not responded as it should, might be the canaries in the mine...https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/kRVALk/forskare-skyhoga-nivaer-av-antikroppar-mot-blodplattar-hos-patiente?fbclid%3DIwAR1hLLOJxazvbbevn8r1eZ69BpgKZ-HWSynSeQktmIWNGeSxCJaH3JDDDo0

Yet, again I hope they/I are wrong, but I think this is a very risky approach.

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Thanks for the links Calle .. I was unable to open the last one . Tried with and without google translate .

I did read the links from
Anthony Colpo . He claims to be an independent researcher but unable to find if he has research qualifications or participated in research studies . His bio says he is a “certified fitness instructor”.
With the following disclaimer on his site ...,,

“All content on this web site is provided for information and education purposes only. Individuals wishing to make changes to their dietary, lifestyle, exercise or medication regimens should do so in conjunction with a competent, knowledgeable and empathetic medical professional. Anyone who chooses to apply the information on this web site does so of their own volition and their own risk. The owner and contributors to this site accept no responsibility or liability whatsoever for any harm, real or imagined, from the use or dissemination of information contained on this site. If these conditions are not agreeable to the reader, he/she is advised to leave this site immediately.”

Besides fitness he has written a couple of books and built a business which ??? appears to be centred around “******** detection”. . Some would call that a bias . If you have any evidence of his qualifications as an independent researcher please post that link . If it is just a self imposed title then to me it carries little validity .



The last article where about people with blood-clots problem from the immune system over responding it says in the article. If it is cause blood clots it might possible in even more people more hart attacks, strokes might come from the Vaccine in the future.

Can you ask my question then, which other branches have indemnity?
How can you claim it is safe if no long term studies?

Anthony Colpo have lots of sources throw links that backs much of the info in is article if you look. Also had Kennedy junior and other Doctor claim the same about earlier vaccine of this type have backfired.
But well here you have on interview with info of the studie in the background.

https://ugetube.com/watch/why-people-can-die-from-the-vaccine-dolores-cahill_VS2oxxMnVyOTgAJ.html?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=6620523fa67ee34d5a081728c4ff55c9018daf52-1618473654-0-AckrfRSuYTf18RgFNBtyRpHpY4zZ746Mnr5d1f_HDWnDlBHYav5ETME4iloesXdpAFY-Qe11cQ5JagT6YEh-IQMWaVjr-fg0MyNEc9CQqIE5Nff8h2LYtTYIV-VPAw5tpr-6AFPmELIVtB_KI1Szh4whr9KDDPlhhzOrAVDKxe0PcA2YL6bFMlEiffwm-82fp7RtOMX848SB7AFm574m3ocAEeZqat7SSm9UVUdSTqBepv-gFuoRfNY53yxk6R9jQwMYeBSkYeHVKDlRNOs25YzMnQ0IXCJlaTOOwwwB4ahaE3zIhoaHKmyUeYSVJO1IKxWvAaUUq9SARiEbhjSXTPmq4aPKkWJiAi0jR6Di7qYIk_JaZfDdcKGrPJjf2KhhC06DzCXmZDnlQVntJZaZqX9pMxFmB9qlevtvW9osPyB4Vh0cHpHnzjSwBvU1SsaoVqIHjArP4_czNKywpRCXNPj7t0MvSTIL-YxmVI8l6BJffASYJAiU-7huhm7oIMzTR99nQGjKuGtfDqWHF2nwiWwULMvpEfKGb7WH8IzVq64w




























The Dolores Cahill video has been debunked and discredited by multiple sources as spreading false information and propaganda ...

http://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:10007890098

Indemnity insurance is recommended for ANY business which supplies advice or services (vets, architects, consultants, accountants, sole traders, contractors, government agencies , to name a few ). Not sure why you are focusing on this . I would expect large corporations to have indemnity insurance .

... perhaps this article will help your understanding

http://www.nzbrokers.co.nz/site/blog/why-professional-indemnity-insurance-isnt-just-for-big-business

Blood clots are being investigated as a potential concern with vaccines using the adenovirus vector (AstraZeneca and Johnson/Johnson), not the mRNA vaccines .

No medication or vaccine can be considered 100% safe ... (even those that have been tested for long term effects) .., . paracetamol is a common over the counter medicine that can cause liver failure if taken incorrectly .



Calle's photo
Thu 04/15/21 10:32 AM
Hi she/Delores is a Doctor and in that clip the source for the claim in the background if you use your eyes, so the debunking seems dishonest.

Many other doctors have said the same thing as said. Are people just paid from big pharma or WHO allowed to speak regarding vaccine.
**** oh wait Astrid who speak out in earlier video where associated with WHO. Problem then..

If credentials is important Bill Gates is not a Doctor, but he should guide healthy policy... It is starting to be much double standard here...

Yeah, good guys use censorship and try to stop free discussion... Book burners where the good guys...

Regarding fact checkers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjZR6Htma18 .

I prefer to buy things where the sellers is willing to stand for there services or goods. Well nice to hear it is not risk free...

The safest choice is probably choosing to boost your immune system with things like selenium, zinc and d-vitamins, natural stuff for the body.

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Thu 04/15/21 02:44 PM
Edited by Blondey111 on Thu 04/15/21 02:47 PM

Hi she/Delores is a Doctor and in that clip the source for the claim in the background if you use your eyes, so the debunking seems dishonest.

Many other doctors have said the same thing as said. Are people just paid from big pharma or WHO allowed to speak regarding vaccine.
**** oh wait Astrid who speak out in earlier video where associated with WHO. Problem then..

If credentials is important Bill Gates is not a Doctor, but he should guide healthy policy... It is starting to be much double standard here...

Yeah, good guys use censorship and try to stop free discussion... Book burners where the good guys...

Regarding fact checkers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjZR6Htma18 .

I prefer to buy things where the sellers is willing to stand for there services or goods. Well nice to hear it is not risk free...

The safest choice is probably choosing to boost your immune system with things like selenium, zinc and d-vitamins, natural stuff for the body.

perhaps do some more research on Delores Cahill . Did you know about her associations with big pharma ...



Cahill and Big Pharma
Cahill has been interviewed by American anti-vaxxer and conspiracy theorist Del Bigtree, who claims that governments are engaged in vast conspiracy to hide the truth about vaccines and in 2019 produced a widely shared video entitled Vaccines: Big Pharma’s Cash Cow. In June, in a video interview with Breitbart’s London editor James Delingpole which has since been removed by Youtube and Vimeo, Cahill is reported to have said with regard to Covid, that “Evidence is being cherry-picked in order to reach a predetermined goal: a money-making vaccine. The existing prevention and treatment methods don’t make money for Big Pharma”
Bigtree, Delingpole and her other followers around the world might be surprised to learn that Professor Cahill is not only well-connected with the pharmaceutical establishment — but would also appear to have derived considerable profits from it.
· In 1996, Prof Cahill co-founded Protagen AG in Dortmund as a spin-out from the Max Planck Institute to — in her own words — “commercialise her diagnostic, companion diagnostic and personalised medicine applications of her discoveries”. On her website, Prof Cahill goes on to note that Protagen has screened and profiled the autoantibody repertoire of over 20,000 patients. She continued to be a shareholder in the company prior to its sale in 2019. At the time of the sale, Protagen had generated revenue of £1.7 million in the previous three years (2016–2018).
· In 2012, Protagen sold its protein analytical business unit to one of Germany’s largest family-owned venture capital funds, ZFHN Heilbronn.
· In 2014, Protagen Protein Services (PPS) GmbH, in which Prof Cahill was also a shareholder and which she describes as “providing contract services to healthcare sector & pharmaceutical industry”, announced that it had merged with PANATecs GmbH. In their company blurb, Protagen notes that, in 2008, “Panatecs GmbH rescued a Big Pharma block buster market authorization by its innovative protein analytical approach”.
· In 2016, Protagen announced a collaboration with Novartis AG, a major Swiss-based multinational pharmaceuticals company which also has operations in Dublin and Cork. In June 2020, Novartis signed a strategic partnership agreement with the Massachusetts Eye and Ear and Massachusetts General Hospitals to produce a Covid-19 Vaccine candidate.
· In 2019, Protagen was sold to Oncimmune (a leading pharmaceutical in the field of cancer detection) for £4.1 million paid by way of shares in Oncimmune. Anyone who held a stake in Protagen at the time of the sale would have received shares (proportionate to their stakeholding) at a 71 percent premium (that is, 71 percent above the value of shares that Oncimmune was trading at the time of the sale).
Thus, Prof Cahill not only co-founded a company that earned money by servicing pharmaceuticals. She then sold the company to a pharmaceutical company and became a shareholder in that company, proportionate to her original holding in Protagen AG.
As a political actor, availing of her academic credentials, Prof Cahill is making a name for herself as a Covid-denialist and anti-vaxxer, with an implicit agenda against the pharmaceutical establishment. As an academic, she has — as she says herself — commercialised her expertise to reap significant financial benefit from the same

http://farrightobservatory.medium.com/the-many-enterprises-of-dolores-cahill-5b1170c12f22

She has no expertise in virology or public health . Would you go to a doctor (of psychology) to treat a problem with your prostrate ... would you allow a GP to perform
Heart surgery on . Credentials are important but relevant credentials more so .

She has recently resigned her university position and there are calls for her to be investigated .

As for bill gates .. I would have nil confidence in him as a health professional . He could only at best take advice from health professionals/experts .

I have little interest in politicalisation of covid or political agendas .

So called “natural “ therapies are not 100% safe either . Fat soluble vitamin A can accumulate to toxic and fatal levels . You mention Selenium .. do you know that only minute doses are required and that toxicity can lead to serious side effects including neurological and cardiac . There is no evidence todate that relying on natural remedies to treat or prevent covid is beneficial .

You have the right to decline covid vaccination. Personally , I would hope that decision was a well informed one . Best of luck Calle waving

Calle's photo
Fri 04/16/21 03:58 AM
Hi
In sourced video she have the facts in the background.

What did John F Kennedy talked in earlier linked speech linked? Did he do it for fun?
But probably he just did it for fun and he and his brother MLK and Malcolm X just got killed by chance. Well reed this so probably not https://www.amazon.com/Devils-Chessboard-Dulles-Americas-Government/dp/0062276174 the book have lots of scouce material in the end also .

Well sound Orwellian, I don´t want Ministry of truth and censorship.

Regarding Vaccines I am necessary not against it depends on how they are built. If they have a weakened part of actual virus and non harmfully substances within it i can be for them.

https://www.enotes.com/homework-help/what-is-doublethink-in-1984-77179

I don´t buy in to the double think either pregnant woman should not eat fish because it is mercury in it that could be harmful for the baby even if the mother digestive organs and liver can clean it on the way.

But it totally risk-free to to inject direct in to babies/children bloodstream, where the digestive system can´t clean anything up at all.
So logically yeah I think Vaccines can be harmfully if they contain mercury or aluminum in them and especially if given to small kids and if given with short period. Injecting mercury or aluminum in to brain cell are probably not good to put it short...

Regarding Gates in the Whistleblower video with Astrid. Gates had influence on WHO changing the definition on a Pandemic before changes done by who around 2010 this would not have been viewed as ah Pandemic.









Smartazzjohn's photo
Fri 04/16/21 10:31 AM
I have received the first shot of the Pfizer vaccine.
I'm scheduled to get the 2nd dose on the 4/27.
I did my own research b4 deciding to get vaccinated.
My research included talking to people who had already received the vaccine.
I still have questions that remain UNANSWERED by "healthcare professions"
who dance around questions like a politician.
Unanswered questions include:
1) Why do people who ALREADY had the Covid-19 virus need to be vaccinated
when this hasn't been the protocol for other viruses?
2) At what point can we get back to pre-pandemic normality like NOT having to
wear a mask and having unrestricted travel and gatherings?
3) Why has the J&J vaccine been paused after 6 cases of blood clotting were detected in more than 6.8 million doses of the vaccine while for every 10,000 women taking birth control pill between 3 and 9 will develop a blood clot
in a given year?
4) Why is the Pfizer CEO now saying third dose of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine will “likely” be needed within six to 12 months after a person is fully vaccinated? Why wasn't this INFORMATION given before millions of people
given the vaccine?????
5) What is the point of getting the vaccine if you STILL have to wear a mask and socially distance? Why are the "goal post" constantly being move to justify restricting FREEDOMS?????

It's been my CHOICE to be very cautious because of my OWN risk factors due to underlying conditions. But I don't think ANYONE else should be FORCED to do what I have done.


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Fri 04/16/21 04:46 PM
Edited by Blondey111 on Fri 04/16/21 04:51 PM

I have received the first shot of the Pfizer vaccine.
I'm scheduled to get the 2nd dose on the 4/27.
I did my own research b4 deciding to get vaccinated.
My research included talking to people who had already received the vaccine.
I still have questions that remain UNANSWERED by "healthcare professions"
who dance around questions like a politician.
Unanswered questions include:
1) Why do people who ALREADY had the Covid-19 virus need to be vaccinated
when this hasn't been the protocol for other viruses?
2) At what point can we get back to pre-pandemic normality like NOT having to
wear a mask and having unrestricted travel and gatherings?
3) Why has the J&J vaccine been paused after 6 cases of blood clotting were detected in more than 6.8 million doses of the vaccine while for every 10,000 women taking birth control pill between 3 and 9 will develop a blood clot
in a given year?
4) Why is the Pfizer CEO now saying third dose of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine will “likely” be needed within six to 12 months after a person is fully vaccinated? Why wasn't this INFORMATION given before millions of people
given the vaccine?????
5) What is the point of getting the vaccine if you STILL have to wear a mask and socially distance? Why are the "goal post" constantly being move to justify restricting FREEDOMS?????

It's been my CHOICE to be very cautious because of my OWN risk factors due to underlying conditions. But I don't think ANYONE else should be FORCED to do what I have done.


hi john . You have asked very good questions .,

My understanding regarding the Pfizer booster vaccine ., is this is currently being tested . It is not yet clear if the current two dose vaccines are effective against the South African variant . This article explains in more depth
http://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-initiate-study-part-broad-development

as long as there is increasing /uncontrolled transmission then mask wearing , hand hygiene and social distancing will still be necessary . I imagine herd immunity would need to be achieved before such practices can safely be discontinued . Dr Katherine O’Brien (from who) explains ... http://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwjo-M3w5IPwAhUGV2AKHR2wCG8YABABGgJ0bQ&ae=2&ohost=www.google.co.nz&cid=CAASE-RoOYe_-yESnpBiPK1dEeOZUAE&sig=AOD64_2j9bR_sLC-QZhqVuX3JgcsXZ_xvA&q&adurl&ved=2ahUKEwiNvsTw5IPwAhUrzzgGHRYUCcYQ0Qx6BAgDEAE


Why people exposed to covid still need to be vaccinated .... There is still uncertainty regarding the level of immunity that exposure to the virus provides (or the vaccination) . If you think of the influenza virus . . The vaccination is only effective against current strains . Covid may well behave In a similar manner . There have been a number of mutations already .
The most recent mutations indicate the virus is attempting to evade antibody detection . It is not yet clear if he current covid vaccines are effective against the recent mutations .

Re.. vaccine associated blood clots .. (AstraZeneca and Jansen) ..FDA approval has not yet been revoked for either vaccine . Currently Jansen’s rollout has been paused .. citing “an abundance of caution”.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56733715.amp

http://amp.dw.com/en/blood-clot-risk-higher-for-covid-than-vaccines-oxford/a-57212639

When it comes to contraception .. an individual health risk assessment is completed including an explanation of blood clot associated risk . A woman choosing this therapy (is acknowledging and accepting the associated risks) . She is closely monitored throughout treatment for ongoing risk and product tolerance . .

investigations are still ongoing ... it is possible that fda approval could be revoked for Jansen/AstraZeneca covid vaccines ...or further conditions applied to the emergency approval , Keep in mind that at this stage all of the covid vaccines only have emergency FDA approval , not full approval .

Hope some of this helps waving




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Sat 04/17/21 12:41 PM
Edited by Smartazzjohn on Sat 04/17/21 12:50 PM
I didn't say anything about Jansen/AstraZeneca covid vaccines.
I mentioned the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine.
They paused if because of 6 cases out of 6.8 million doses
which is a VERY low percentage of adverse reaction.

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Sat 04/17/21 02:31 PM

Here is a bit of reality courtesy of ABC News:

"A pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now infected more than 83.2 million people worldwide and killed over 1.8 million of them, according to real-time data compiled by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at Johns Hopkins University."

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/coronavirus/live-updates/CDC-vaccine-guidance-underlying-health-conditions/?id=74930140


Your first mistake is believing corporate-owned news media, who are bankrolled by the very manufacturers of the supposed "vaccine."


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Sat 04/17/21 02:33 PM
It's 99.99997% survivable.

Keep calm, folks.

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Sat 04/17/21 02:44 PM

I didn't say anything about Jansen/AstraZeneca covid vaccines.
I mentioned the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine.
They paused if because of 6 cases out of 6.8 million doses
which is a VERY low percentage of adverse reaction.

Hi john ., the Jansen vaccine is Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine .

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Sun 04/18/21 08:56 AM


I didn't say anything about Jansen/AstraZeneca covid vaccines.
I mentioned the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine.
They paused if because of 6 cases out of 6.8 million doses
which is a VERY low percentage of adverse reaction.

Hi john ., the Jansen vaccine is Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine .


I know the J&J vaccine is called the
J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine.
You seemed to be conflating the AstraZeneca vaccine
with the J&J vaccine. While they are both
viral vector vaccines it doesn't make them
the same vaccines and it's why they are looked
at separately by the CDC and the FDA.
Moderna and Pfizer are both mRNA COVID-19 vaccines
but they are differnt too.

Like I said in my first post I do my
own research....and I stand by saying that 6 adverse cases
out of 6.8 million is a very low percentage to call for a
pause.
If the same standard was used for every vaccine or drug
a lot would never have been approved or would
be taken off the market.



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Sun 04/18/21 04:10 PM



I didn't say anything about Jansen/AstraZeneca covid vaccines.
I mentioned the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine.
They paused if because of 6 cases out of 6.8 million doses
which is a VERY low percentage of adverse reaction.

Hi john ., the Jansen vaccine is Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine .


I know the J&J vaccine is called the
J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine.
You seemed to be conflating the AstraZeneca vaccine
with the J&J vaccine. While they are both
viral vector vaccines it doesn't make them
the same vaccines and it's why they are looked
at separately by the CDC and the FDA.
Moderna and Pfizer are both mRNA COVID-19 vaccines
but they are differnt too.

Like I said in my first post I do my
own research....and I stand by saying that 6 adverse cases
out of 6.8 million is a very low percentage to call for a
pause.
If the same standard was used for every vaccine or drug
a lot would never have been approved or would
be taken off the market.



nowhere have I claimed that any of the covid vaccines are the same .. I am well aware that even vaccines using the same platform use different ingredients and technology . For example . Astra Zeneca uses a chimp adenovirus vector , Jansen uses a human adenovirus vector .

I mentioned Astra Zeneca and Jansen (Johnson/Johnson) as both vaccines were halted by some countries for concerns with blood clots . AstraZeneca is still being used but there has been a recent change in who can now receive this vaccine .

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-56665517.



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Sun 04/18/21 04:25 PM
They sure rolled that vaccine quite quickly while they were telling us ( at least here in France ) that a vaccine wasn't going to be available for at least 3 years.

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Sun 04/18/21 06:30 PM
Edited by Blondey111 on Sun 04/18/21 06:32 PM

They sure rolled that vaccine quite quickly while they were telling us ( at least here in France ) that a vaccine wasn't going to be available for at least 3 years.

Hi Fred waving I am sure many people share that concern and it is one reason for reluctance to be vaccinated . This article explains what experts have to say on the matter ....

http://www.healthline.com/health-news/heres-how-it-was-possible-to-develop-covid-19-vaccines-so-quickly

The phase three clinical trial (on humans ) ran for approx two months before data was released and emergency approval was sought . That is not the end of the trial . Safety Data and efficacy will likely continue to be collected and analysed over the next two years .. which is standard practice for any vaccine

A trial is about to commence where candidates vaccinated for covid will be infected with the live virus . I am very interested to see the outcome of this trial . As yet there is still uncertainty over the level of immunity covid vaccines provide and how long protection lasts , whether any of the vaccines are effective against the latest variants which are thought to have antibody escape mutations and how those previously exposed to covid will react . Obviously long term data will only be available over time .

Do you know what the vaccine uptake has been in France and which vaccines are being used ??

In New Zealand only the Pfizer vaccine has been approved for use by medsafe (at this stsge)... Vaccination of border workers and frontline health workers is currently underway .

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Mon 04/19/21 06:09 PM
Edited by Blondey111 on Mon 04/19/21 06:11 PM
685,​495
New cases reported worldwide, April 18

3,​026,​517
Total deaths reported worldwide

910,​209,​046 Vaccines administered in 156 countries




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