Why do you spend hours trying to disprove "God's excistance".

Whats your beliefs? I know this is a fourm so I ask you what things you believe in.

One may 'find' answers to question(s) should they read the entire thread before asking...







ooops... I forgot 'find'

What good is a book translated from language to language, culture to culture, when it's words, meanings and definitions can not even be agreed on by people of the same language and culture?

Someone posted a seeming lament over the lack of 'basic' education in our schools. From the context I think the comment was in terms of children not being taught the basics of the Christianity.

We have two grown men, both very well leaned, of their own accord, with some very distinct and critical differences over the meaning of words. So critical is the dfinitive nature of this "one" argument that it changes the whole perspective of the Christrian religion. How many other views and definitions are at odds between poeple.

And yet, oh yes, still the cry is to mass produce this book in all languages, introduce it to all cultures, and continue to allow ever more division between its readers.

How many variants of Christianity will it take, before the religion is so diluted to the point of being laughed out of existence?



I don't know cougar, if faith were personal and carried on work of mouth from one family member to another, perhaps there would be some integrity, still.



Who will argue with cougar? I will tell you cougar that many, would in fact, jump all over this quote. Their view would be to indicate to you, the error of your thinking, for these are not the reasons for the 'holidays'. But this is part of your belief, if that belief serves to make you whole, serves to provide you with comfort, and if, in that faith you are true to yourself and honest and trustworthy, how could a righteous creator fault you, or anyone. Just because they do not have the knowledge to know different, or the time to research anchient history and languages.

In the end - faith IS PERSONAL. There are too many to believe a creator speaks to them, inspires them, who is whispering in your ear? If the words are not the same from person to person, who is at fault, the listner, or the speaker?

Light does not travel to one spot and stop. Even in the world that encompasses our three dimensional state, we understand, through science that light passes through, and continues and it does not change and as far as we know it does not end.

If it's the same light, why are all those whose voices are raised in praise for having been touched by it, still floundering in the dark?

As an atheist, I don't mind these kinds of threads, for some, there is light here, but for those who proclaim it shines only on them, I see a very sad darkness.

this is not directed at any one in particular when i say that
one day i believe we will all know the truth
and until then, it would be nice if we all just try to get along

You're right. Religious dogma but also sociopolitical ideologies are implicated in many wars. However, we have to distinguish between matters of preference and matters of judgment. If someone wants to believe that Bigfoot lives in his closet, or invisible space aliens lives under his bed, then I'm perfectly fine with that. I might think it's absurd, but I have no argument with him. That's his preference. However, if he claims that Bigfoot and the aliens talk to him and told him to go bomb abortion clinics, murder people who disbelieve, or fly a 747 into a building full of people, then we're dealing with matters of judgment. This negatively affects our society. As such, I and others will stand up to challenge that individual and set him straight.

IMO, we all should be seekers of truth, and honestly follow the evidence wherever it leads. I and others would much rather live our lives by the sobering truth than some comfortable lie.

Again, just my opinion.

done that and my question still stands.

The purpose of this post is to show that Jesus is not God. Becuse if he was he would not say "My lord my lord why have you forsaken me"

When I started this thread I believed that just showed that Jesus was a man that was scared and obviously NOT God. After all this thread I am almost 100% certain that Jesus never said those words and that his most faith filled followers felt a need to lie and make Jesus more then he really was.

Have to disagree with you there Rabbit. In the book of genisis (excuse spelling) " God said let Us make man in Our image". Who do you think he was talking to. He was talking to Jesus before He was made flesh.

Im pretty sure since Jesus didn't exist yet that when he said "us" he was referring to the multipul Gods that created the earth. I'm afraid I take the Bible very literally. No pulling the wool over my eyes.

God, Son and Holy Spirit

A being with an ego and an alter-ego! Must be lonely to be an only!

And we make schzophrenics take drugs to prohibit such conflict!

(all three of us chose the some emoticon) Syncronicity at it finest!

funny to you, but a matter of faith to those who believe...

Uh... super-ego even...

we cannot perceive of or fathom God
with our mere mortal minds


you waste your time with your limited awarenesses
trying to intellectualize the existence or absence of God


God is of the Spirit and is limitless
the human mind is not of the spirit and very limited

You put up a bunch of Bible quotes this "limitless" spirit obviously can't fit in just one book.

I see we agree

Rabbit did not you use bible quotes trying to disprove God. I believe the quote was " Father why have you forsaken me".

Why now the double standard?

Rapunzel


Rapunzel


Yes, Rapunzel, your description is exactly why sarcasm abounds.
Because there is no logic that can substantiate the 'faith' that any individual calls their own.

So why is it that so many insist on 'recruiting' others to their belief system with illogical resonings? Proofs, when there are really non to be had?

When they do so openly, even to the point of argument over who's 'theory' or 'belief' is right or wrong, they invite the same kind of logic that they attempt to impose. Sometimes sarcasm addresses that logic quite well.